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So it looks like the armchair warriors are back.

Another far left lie!
Another ill informed poster.

Iran Intelligence Briefing Divides Senate Republicans | National Review

"A classified briefing on the intelligence behind Qasem Soleimani’s killing left Senate Republicans divided Wednesday, with Mike Lee and Ron Paul excoriating the assessment while Lindsey Graham and Marco Rubio praised the intel.

Lee called the meeting “probably the worst briefing I’ve seen, at least on a military issues, in the nine years I’ve served in the United States Senate,” and while he commended Trump for showing “a lot of restraint” in the Soleimani affair, he added that he wanted to speak to the president directly about the lack of clarity in the assessment.
“I went in there hoping to get more specifics as far as the factual, legal, moral justification for what they did,” Lee said. “I’m still undecided on that issue, in part because we never got to the details.”

“It is not acceptable for officials within the executive branch of government — I don’t care whether they’re with the CIA, with the Department of Defense, or otherwise — to come in and tell us that we can’t debate and discuss the appropriateness of military intervention against Iran. It’s un-American. It’s unconstitutional. And it’s wrong. And I hope and expect that they will show more deference to their limited power in the future.”

Yes I know it is strange that people in their own party would have different opinions.

It is not like the far left, the GOP will question their own, the far left will not!

Thanks for pointing that out!

The only thing I pointed out was your lie.

Nope! I led you to showing the GOP will question their own, unlike the far left which will never do that!

The only lie here is that any strikes are unconstitutional after the Obama years!

^Caught in a lie so what do you do? Lie some more.
 
Yes you have been outed as far left, but if you choose to ignore it, that is on you.

Case and effect tells the story, but you have to be willing to see beyond the far left religious dogma!

Iran has wanted to build a nuke, no matter of any "deal". All the deal did was prolong it, did not stop it. But the far left will always ignore such facts!

Iran breaks nuclear deal enrichment targets for second time

But then again as you see the EU is not doing anything to stop it, since they are part of that deal as well.

Do you not read your own links? That happened a year after Trump pulled out of the deal.

Oh my the far left is at it again!

They think the deal is only about the US!

What difference did it make? The deal was only with the US?

Iran makes threats all the time! They want sanctions removed before complying, only the far left does not see it!

The deal never stopped Iran from making Nukes, just prolonged it. It is going to happen anyway

The deal was kind of worthless without us.

The deal was worthless to begin with, that is what the far left does not understand!

It was working until Trump threw in the towel and it's one of many reasons other countries don't like and more importantly trust him. I just hope his shitty reputation hasn't permanently stained ours.

Once again the far left shows their hatred for Trump!

It was bad deal, but if you think by letting terrorist run loose as working, then you are correct!
 
Well, this guy was apparently one of the ones that directed people to do stupid things, so, there is that.


Should make you feel better.

As long as we accept that as the standard. If it happens to one of our idiots and we all are happy, then fine.



Define the standard.

Someone that directs people to do stupid things. We have a long list of people that meet that description.


He was not a valid target because of being stupid, or doing stupid things, but because of being an enemy in a war zone.

And yes, I am prepared to accept that standard of waging war, ie combatants in a war zone are valid targets.


The world would be a fantastic place if our enemies would start to conform to such a standard.



They won't of course. YOu know that, right?

They can't. The people making the stupid decisions are too cowardly to go to the war zones themselves. Many of them even came up with all kinds of excuses to avoid service themselves.


Sure they could. Iran could stop targeting or supporting the targeting of civilian targets. Others could do the same.


Nothing in stopping them from doing that.


YOur claim otherwise is insane.
 
Another far left lie!
Another ill informed poster.

Iran Intelligence Briefing Divides Senate Republicans | National Review

"A classified briefing on the intelligence behind Qasem Soleimani’s killing left Senate Republicans divided Wednesday, with Mike Lee and Ron Paul excoriating the assessment while Lindsey Graham and Marco Rubio praised the intel.

Lee called the meeting “probably the worst briefing I’ve seen, at least on a military issues, in the nine years I’ve served in the United States Senate,” and while he commended Trump for showing “a lot of restraint” in the Soleimani affair, he added that he wanted to speak to the president directly about the lack of clarity in the assessment.
“I went in there hoping to get more specifics as far as the factual, legal, moral justification for what they did,” Lee said. “I’m still undecided on that issue, in part because we never got to the details.”

“It is not acceptable for officials within the executive branch of government — I don’t care whether they’re with the CIA, with the Department of Defense, or otherwise — to come in and tell us that we can’t debate and discuss the appropriateness of military intervention against Iran. It’s un-American. It’s unconstitutional. And it’s wrong. And I hope and expect that they will show more deference to their limited power in the future.”

Yes I know it is strange that people in their own party would have different opinions.

It is not like the far left, the GOP will question their own, the far left will not!

Thanks for pointing that out!

The only thing I pointed out was your lie.

Nope! I led you to showing the GOP will question their own, unlike the far left which will never do that!

The only lie here is that any strikes are unconstitutional after the Obama years!

^Caught in a lie so what do you do? Lie some more.

Nope! Just led you to where I wanted you to go, the far left easy to do that with!

All it did was show the GOP will question their own, unlike the far left, that means you!
 
Do you not read your own links? That happened a year after Trump pulled out of the deal.

Oh my the far left is at it again!

They think the deal is only about the US!

What difference did it make? The deal was only with the US?

Iran makes threats all the time! They want sanctions removed before complying, only the far left does not see it!

The deal never stopped Iran from making Nukes, just prolonged it. It is going to happen anyway

The deal was kind of worthless without us.

The deal was worthless to begin with, that is what the far left does not understand!

It was working until Trump threw in the towel and it's one of many reasons other countries don't like and more importantly trust him. I just hope his shitty reputation hasn't permanently stained ours.

Once again the far left shows their hatred for Trump!

It was bad deal, but if you think by letting terrorist run loose as working, then you are correct!


It was working. The deal was not about anything other than getting Iran to drop it's nuclear program. If you included everything under the sun then nothing would have been agreed to.
 
It's been weird, watching the same people who made excuses for the wars Bush got us into, turn into anti-neocon doves when Trump came down the escalator.

How could these people have turned on a dime like that?

But now, Trump blows up a bad guy and they're back at full force. Welcome back, we missed ya! But could you at least make up your mind, one way or the other?
.



I don't want another war. But the guy was in a war zone, in a country he was directing hostile military operations against, and directing operations AGAINST US, killing our people.


He was a completely valid target.


If Iran chooses to pretend that their people engaging in warfare against us, are somehow supposed to be safe while doing so, that is their choice, to be insane.
He was a completely valid target.

Sure. He's been a valid target for years.
That in no way makes hitting him a smart thing to do.



Thank you for admitting he was a valid target.


Smart? If Iran is waging war on US, and their response to US fighting back is to be shocked and angry that we fight back, they are the ones being stupid.

All Trump's own doing. They only started the attacks after Trump pulled out of the deal and reinstated sanctions.

Smart?


So, they did start attacks? Thanks for admitting that. Perhaps they should have considered if that was smart of them, to escalate?


Funny, how "blowback" only is something to consider, when it is our actions, everyone else gets a pass.
 
It's been weird, watching the same people who made excuses for the wars Bush got us into, turn into anti-neocon doves when Trump came down the escalator.

How could these people have turned on a dime like that?

But now, Trump blows up a bad guy and they're back at full force. Welcome back, we missed ya! But could you at least make up your mind, one way or the other?
.



I don't want another war. But the guy was in a war zone, in a country he was directing hostile military operations against, and directing operations AGAINST US, killing our people.


He was a completely valid target.


If Iran chooses to pretend that their people engaging in warfare against us, are somehow supposed to be safe while doing so, that is their choice, to be insane.
He was a completely valid target.

Sure. He's been a valid target for years.
That in no way makes hitting him a smart thing to do.



Thank you for admitting he was a valid target.


Smart? If Iran is waging war on US, and their response to US fighting back is to be shocked and angry that we fight back, they are the ones being stupid.

All Trump's own doing. They only started the attacks after Trump pulled out of the deal and reinstated sanctions.

Smart?

Only if he has lined up the majority of participating nations to do so

Now, as of today, he's asking for this

cart/ horse much?

~S~
 
Oh my the far left is at it again!

They think the deal is only about the US!

What difference did it make? The deal was only with the US?

Iran makes threats all the time! They want sanctions removed before complying, only the far left does not see it!

The deal never stopped Iran from making Nukes, just prolonged it. It is going to happen anyway

The deal was kind of worthless without us.

The deal was worthless to begin with, that is what the far left does not understand!

It was working until Trump threw in the towel and it's one of many reasons other countries don't like and more importantly trust him. I just hope his shitty reputation hasn't permanently stained ours.

Once again the far left shows their hatred for Trump!

It was bad deal, but if you think by letting terrorist run loose as working, then you are correct!


It was working. The deal was not about anything other than getting Iran to drop it's nuclear program. If you included everything under the sun then nothing would have been agreed to.

Yes you are right it was working and letting terrorist run wild!

We know the far left supports terrorists!
 
He was a completely valid target.

So are many others

but that's not really the point

why 'take the shot' would be closer....

~S~


Then I am not getting the point. We are supposed to let the Iranians wage war against our people and not fight back?
Then I am not getting the point. We are supposed to let the Iranians wage war against our people and not fight back

It's curious that the Iranians weren't "waging war against our people" until Trump backed out of the deal and reinstated sanctions. No?

Trump alone owns this cluster fuck that is now the ME.



Can you support your claim that the Iranians were not waging war on US, prior to that point in time?

Show us, professor.


You made the claim. I'm asking you to support it.
 
Another ill informed poster.

Iran Intelligence Briefing Divides Senate Republicans | National Review

"A classified briefing on the intelligence behind Qasem Soleimani’s killing left Senate Republicans divided Wednesday, with Mike Lee and Ron Paul excoriating the assessment while Lindsey Graham and Marco Rubio praised the intel.

Lee called the meeting “probably the worst briefing I’ve seen, at least on a military issues, in the nine years I’ve served in the United States Senate,” and while he commended Trump for showing “a lot of restraint” in the Soleimani affair, he added that he wanted to speak to the president directly about the lack of clarity in the assessment.
“I went in there hoping to get more specifics as far as the factual, legal, moral justification for what they did,” Lee said. “I’m still undecided on that issue, in part because we never got to the details.”

“It is not acceptable for officials within the executive branch of government — I don’t care whether they’re with the CIA, with the Department of Defense, or otherwise — to come in and tell us that we can’t debate and discuss the appropriateness of military intervention against Iran. It’s un-American. It’s unconstitutional. And it’s wrong. And I hope and expect that they will show more deference to their limited power in the future.”

Yes I know it is strange that people in their own party would have different opinions.

It is not like the far left, the GOP will question their own, the far left will not!

Thanks for pointing that out!

The only thing I pointed out was your lie.

Nope! I led you to showing the GOP will question their own, unlike the far left which will never do that!

The only lie here is that any strikes are unconstitutional after the Obama years!

^Caught in a lie so what do you do? Lie some more.

Nope! Just led you to where I wanted you to go, the far left easy to do that with!

All it did was show the GOP will question their own, unlike the far left, that means you!

It was two senators. Mark Meadows was on his knees as were most Republicans.

However your claim was that the whitehouse was keeping Congress updated and you called me a liar. Well, I didn't lie, the whitehouse isn't being open with Congress and that is a problem.
 
Yes I know it is strange that people in their own party would have different opinions.

It is not like the far left, the GOP will question their own, the far left will not!

Thanks for pointing that out!

The only thing I pointed out was your lie.

Nope! I led you to showing the GOP will question their own, unlike the far left which will never do that!

The only lie here is that any strikes are unconstitutional after the Obama years!

^Caught in a lie so what do you do? Lie some more.

Nope! Just led you to where I wanted you to go, the far left easy to do that with!

All it did was show the GOP will question their own, unlike the far left, that means you!

It was two senators. Mark Meadows was on his knees as were most Republicans.

However your claim was that the whitehouse was keeping Congress updated and you called me a liar. Well, I didn't lie, the whitehouse isn't being open with Congress and that is a problem.


Why would congress need to know the details about an operation inside of a war zone, that has been a war zone for many years?
 
stupid is as stupid does. they would rather stay warm & comfy in that basket of deplorables, being spoon fed the pablum that keeps them ignorant rather than hurt their brain learning real facts.
OK, tell us the facts Mr. All Knowing playtime dude.
 
The deal was kind of worthless without us.

The deal was worthless to begin with, that is what the far left does not understand!

It was working until Trump threw in the towel and it's one of many reasons other countries don't like and more importantly trust him. I just hope his shitty reputation hasn't permanently stained ours.

Once again the far left shows their hatred for Trump!

It was bad deal, but if you think by letting terrorist run loose as working, then you are correct!


It was working. The deal was not about anything other than getting Iran to drop it's nuclear program. If you included everything under the sun then nothing would have been agreed to.

Yes you are right it was working and letting terrorist run wild!

We know the far left supports terrorists!

The agreement was about nuclear proliferation. Maybe try staying on that topic though I'm not really surprised you don't understand this.
 
The only thing I pointed out was your lie.

Nope! I led you to showing the GOP will question their own, unlike the far left which will never do that!

The only lie here is that any strikes are unconstitutional after the Obama years!

^Caught in a lie so what do you do? Lie some more.

Nope! Just led you to where I wanted you to go, the far left easy to do that with!

All it did was show the GOP will question their own, unlike the far left, that means you!

It was two senators. Mark Meadows was on his knees as were most Republicans.

However your claim was that the whitehouse was keeping Congress updated and you called me a liar. Well, I didn't lie, the whitehouse isn't being open with Congress and that is a problem.


Why would congress need to know the details about an operation inside of a war zone, that has been a war zone for many years?

Huh? You don't understand Congress' role at all do you? Ever heard of oversight? Or budgets?
 
Another far left lie!
Another ill informed poster.

Iran Intelligence Briefing Divides Senate Republicans | National Review

"A classified briefing on the intelligence behind Qasem Soleimani’s killing left Senate Republicans divided Wednesday, with Mike Lee and Ron Paul excoriating the assessment while Lindsey Graham and Marco Rubio praised the intel.

Lee called the meeting “probably the worst briefing I’ve seen, at least on a military issues, in the nine years I’ve served in the United States Senate,” and while he commended Trump for showing “a lot of restraint” in the Soleimani affair, he added that he wanted to speak to the president directly about the lack of clarity in the assessment.
“I went in there hoping to get more specifics as far as the factual, legal, moral justification for what they did,” Lee said. “I’m still undecided on that issue, in part because we never got to the details.”

“It is not acceptable for officials within the executive branch of government — I don’t care whether they’re with the CIA, with the Department of Defense, or otherwise — to come in and tell us that we can’t debate and discuss the appropriateness of military intervention against Iran. It’s un-American. It’s unconstitutional. And it’s wrong. And I hope and expect that they will show more deference to their limited power in the future.”

Yes I know it is strange that people in their own party would have different opinions.

It is not like the far left, the GOP will question their own, the far left will not!

Thanks for pointing that out!

The only thing I pointed out was your lie.

Nope! I led you to showing the GOP will question their own, unlike the far left which will never do that!

The only lie here is that any strikes are unconstitutional after the Obama years!
Nope! I led you to showing the GOP will question their own,

Yes, dope. Question why the WH won't give them the requested details.
 
It's been weird, watching the same people who made excuses for the wars Bush got us into, turn into anti-neocon doves when Trump came down the escalator.

How could these people have turned on a dime like that?

But now, Trump blows up a bad guy and they're back at full force. Welcome back, we missed ya! But could you at least make up your mind, one way or the other?
.


These wars were and are stupid. Obama and his drone strikes, Trump and These here are how it should be done. All the trashy backword haji trash isn't worth one American life. This is the type of "war" that should be okay.
 
It's been weird, watching the same people who made excuses for the wars Bush got us into, turn into anti-neocon doves when Trump came down the escalator.

How could these people have turned on a dime like that?

But now, Trump blows up a bad guy and they're back at full force. Welcome back, we missed ya! But could you at least make up your mind, one way or the other?
.
it's funny how it works obama used drones 2200 times killing civilians and not a peep even from congress. Trump takes out a leader of all terrorist and all hell breaks loose from the left and congress.

it's funny how it works obama used drones 2200 times killing civilians and not a peep even from congress.

When did Obama's strikes lead to a direct attack from Iran, dope?
 
We have over 900 bases world-wide. 945 as of the last time I checked. And not one single declaration of war. There are no ifs and or buts about that.

If you wanna be a good conservative, you have to ask what the proper role of government should be. The Founders asked the question, they had a revolution and they wrote a constitution. What they decided was that the role of the government was to protect Individual liberty. Not to be the policemen of the world.

If you wanna be a good conservative you have a very good guide. It's called the Constitution. You have much to learn. The 'how dare them put their countries next to our bases' pablum they're teaching you on your idiot box won't work.

Factions in the world are threatening our individual liberty. The Founders were protecting individual liberty by an invading force. Today, we don't have to be invaded to have our liberty threatened. I think the Founders would recognize that.
 
Another far left lie!
Another ill informed poster.

Iran Intelligence Briefing Divides Senate Republicans | National Review

"A classified briefing on the intelligence behind Qasem Soleimani’s killing left Senate Republicans divided Wednesday, with Mike Lee and Ron Paul excoriating the assessment while Lindsey Graham and Marco Rubio praised the intel.

Lee called the meeting “probably the worst briefing I’ve seen, at least on a military issues, in the nine years I’ve served in the United States Senate,” and while he commended Trump for showing “a lot of restraint” in the Soleimani affair, he added that he wanted to speak to the president directly about the lack of clarity in the assessment.
“I went in there hoping to get more specifics as far as the factual, legal, moral justification for what they did,” Lee said. “I’m still undecided on that issue, in part because we never got to the details.”

“It is not acceptable for officials within the executive branch of government — I don’t care whether they’re with the CIA, with the Department of Defense, or otherwise — to come in and tell us that we can’t debate and discuss the appropriateness of military intervention against Iran. It’s un-American. It’s unconstitutional. And it’s wrong. And I hope and expect that they will show more deference to their limited power in the future.”

Yes I know it is strange that people in their own party would have different opinions.

It is not like the far left, the GOP will question their own, the far left will not!

Thanks for pointing that out!

The only thing I pointed out was your lie.

Nope! I led you to showing the GOP will question their own, unlike the far left which will never do that!

The only lie here is that any strikes are unconstitutional after the Obama years!
Nope! I led you to showing the GOP will question their own,

Yes, dope. Question why the WH won't give them the requested details.

Like I said the GOP will question their own, unlike the far left!

Unlike the far left and the illegal wars of Obama!
 
The agreement was about nuclear proliferation. Maybe try staying on that topic though I'm not really surprised you don't understand this.

Yep.

But... you do know you are playing with a goofy, benighted troll. Or don't you?
 

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