So leftists hate the Supreme Court

[postman]

A bad opinion is a bad opinion, no matter how many people decide it.

Plessey, Bad. Roe, Bad. Chevron, Bad.

Obergfell, over-reach, not bad.

Then use state decisis, and ELEVATE the overturning.

It turned political when a slim majority starts throwing out cases from a more unified court.

 

[TNHarley]

Yeah.

The revocation of abortion as a constitutional right.

Why

 

[Catsnmeters]

No, it wasn't because it was never in the constitution.

You want it to be an enumerated/constitutional right? Amend the Constitution to include it.

The constitution already includes it.

It's called the 9th amendment.

 

[martybegan]

Then use state decisis, and ELEVATE the overturning.

It turned political when a slim majority starts throwing out cases from a more unified court.

Nope, that's not in the rules. Stare Decisis is something justices use as a guideline when thinking of overturning something ON THE MERITS, not due to numbers.

Given the time it takes for a case like this to weave it's way through the courts, things like this aren't done on a whim.

And the SC not being political ended a long time ago, the left is just mad because it's not their side controlling it now.

 

[Catsnmeters]

Why

Because roe v Wade was decided by 7 republican appointed justices and two Democrat appointed justices and now years later another Republican appointed majority overturned the decision by the prior Republican majority.

Wouldn't that qualify as an activist court in right wing circles?

 

[TNHarley]

I am extremely pro-choice, but tossing RvW was the correct decision. It is a states issue.
Saying "its a constitutional right" is bullocks.

 

[postman]

Abortion was never an enumerated constitutional right. All Roe did was prevent States from legislating before viability, and shakily at that.

Re: Abortion was never an enumerated constitutional right

And executive immunity was never a enumerated constitutional right.

Now argue that neither exists because they're not enumerated.

 

[TNHarley]

Because roe v Wade was decided by 7 republican appointed justices and two Democrat appointed justices and now years later another Republican appointed majority overturned the decision by the prior Republican majority.

Wouldn't that qualify as an activist court in right wing circles?

Overturning a horrible decision isnt activist. The Supreme court creating "rights" is activist.

 

[postman]

They hold elections, but this was a federal election, not a State election.

Federal elections are controlled by the US Constitution. State elections are controlled by State Constitutions.

And as long as the law doesn't conflict with either constitution, the state carries out the law. And the states courts sit in judgement of that process, not the federal government.

 

[TNHarley]

Re: Abortion was never an enumerated constitutional right

And executive immunity was never a enumerated constitutional right.

Now argue that neither exists because they're not enumerated.

Neither exist.
Executive immunity can exist but it depends on the context. Such as the case with trump? It does not exist. Another right created by an activist SC.

 

[Catsnmeters]

Overturning a horrible decision isnt activist. The Supreme court creating "rights" is activist.

Republicans overturned their own decision.

What could be more activist then that?

So following the 9th amendment is activist?

What if SCOTUS struck down presumption of innocence, the right to marry and the right to travel as the laws of the land.

Would you support that decision?

 

[postman]

I am extremely pro-choice, but tossing RvW was the correct decision. It is a states issue.
Saying "its a constitutional right" is bullocks.

Except for the constitution, granting equal protection

 

[Tumblin Tumbleweed]

Where in the constitution does it say "experts in government" get to decide things?

The legislature legislates, the executive executes, and the judiciary interprets.

Tell me, was Citizens United a good or bad decision to you?

 

[TNHarley]

Except for the constitution, granting equal protection

Its ok you dont understand what that means

 

[martybegan]

Re: Abortion was never an enumerated constitutional right

And executive immunity was never a enumerated constitutional right.

Now argue that neither exists because they're not enumerated.

Actually, it's implied by the fact that only impeachment can remove the President from office for "high crimes and misdemeanors"

 

[martybegan]

Tell me, was Citizens United a good or bad decision to you?

Good. The ability to restrict speech will always be abused, and mostly by those on the left because they believe only their own views are valid.

 

[postman]

Neither exist.
Executive immunity can exist but it depends on the context. Such as the case with trump? It does not exist. Another right created by an activist SC.

Wrong Answer !!!!

They either both require enumeration, or they both don't require enumeration.

No split decisions. Goose v Gander.

 

[postman]

Neither exist.
Executive immunity can exist but it depends on the context. Such as the case with trump? It does not exist. Another right created by an activist SC.

Actually executive immunity was created before the Magna Carter.

 

[martybegan]

Wrong Answer !!!!

They either both require enumeration, or they both don't require enumeration.

No split decisions. Goose v Gander.

The immunity of one elected position of the federal government isn't a "right" as applied to the entire population as in the other issues we are discussing.

Apples and concrete masonry units.

 

[postman]

Its ok you dont understand what that means

It includes privileges and immunities.