So republicans now that you know that cutting taxes for the wealthy has proven to be a poor...

[Kosh]

Why is California's economy booming with its higher taxes? It does better than Texas.

perhaps becuase hollywood and silicon valley are there plus they have great weather and are on a beautiful coast!! Imagie how well they being doing with a favorable tax climate.

True but why does it still have a higher tax rate than Texas?

dear, there are many many factors involved. Ireland has low taxes but that does not make it richest

Well my overall point is that there no evidence that cutting taxes for the wealthy significantly stimuluates job growth.

More proof that the far left will still push a debunked far left myth no matter how many time it is shot down with the truth.

 

[Billy000]

No the facts nowadays shows that the wealthy are hoarding most of their money.

100% idiotic of course. they don't hoard their money they put it in the bank to earn intererst through investments the bank makes. THe banks don't invenst much either becuase we have an anti business communist president that is disruptive.

Actually many of those investments essentially become their private wealth.

There is NOTHING communist about Obama. If he was, why wouldn't we Liberals just admit it? You claim we love communism (we don't)

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

There are much more effective ways to boost growth.

so name a more effective way than supply side tax cuts!! Are you an economist or a liberal blowhard?

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

There is NOTHING communist about Obama.

dear, he had 3 communist parents and voted to left of Bernie Sanders the only open communist in the congress. Sorry to rock your world?

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

perhaps becuase hollywood and silicon valley are there plus they have great weather and are on a beautiful coast!! Imagie how well they being doing with a favorable tax climate.

True but why does it still have a higher tax rate than Texas?

dear, there are many many factors involved. Ireland has low taxes but that does not make it richest

Well my overall point is that there no evidence that cutting taxes for the wealthy significantly stimuluates job growth.

dear, the wealthy create jobs with money the more you steal from them the less they can do.

No the facts nowadays shows that the wealthy are hoarding most of their money. They are investing less and less. That is why cutting their taxes does little to stimulate growth.

Oh, and collecting taxes isn't theft. Revenue pays the government's expenses. Less revenue means more borrowing which means more debt. What the fuck do you think pays for our military and public schools?

No the facts nowadays shows that the wealthy are hoarding most of their money.

Link?

They are investing less and less.

They'll invest more once the Dems lose the Senate and Obama can't cause more harm.

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

There is NOTHING communist about Obama. If he was, why wouldn't we Liberals just admit it? You claim we love communism (we don't)

liberals are far too stupid to know it


Norman Thomas quotes:

The American people will never knowingly adopt Socialism. But under the name of 'liberalism' they will adopt every fragment of the Socialist program, until one day America will be a Socialist nation, without knowing how it happened.


This was precisely the tactic of “infiltration” advocated by Lenin and Stalin.[3] As Communist International General Secretary Georgi Dimitroff told the Seventh World Congress of the Comintern in 1935:
"Comrades, you remember the ancient tale of the capture of Troy. Troy was inaccessible to the armies attacking her, thanks to her impregnable walls. And the attacking army, after suffering many sacrifices, was unable to achieve victory until, with the aid of the famous Trojan horse, it managed to penetrate to the very heart of the enemy’s camp."[4]

C. S. Lewis on Diabolical Democracy Socialism and Public Education Conservative Colloquium


Buckley endorsed Chambers’ analysis of modern liberalism as a watered-down version of Communist ideology. The New Deal, Chambers insists, is not liberal democratic but “revolutionary” in its nature and intentions, seeking “a basic change in the social and, above all, the power relationships within the nation.”

"I am for socialism, disarmament, and, ultimately, for abolishing the state itself... I seek the social ownership of property, the abolition of the propertied class, and the sole control of those who produce wealth. Communism is the goal."
--- Roger Nash Baldwin

 

[Billy000]

There are much more effective ways to boost growth.

so name a more effective way than supply side tax cuts!! Are you an economist or a liberal blowhard?

Demand side economics like Obama's stimulus package. See millions of people lost their jobs against their will so Obama extended unemployment benefits. This put money in the pockets of people would otherwise not be spending money. They spent the extra money immediately on food, clothing and shelter. This stimulus to demand boosted economic growth.

 

[LeftofLeft]

...economic stimulator, where is your proof that any rightwing economic stimulator is effective? When will you just admit you have been wrong all along?

Bush's pathetic job growth and the recent Kansas experiment is more than enough proof. 1.1 million jobs in JOB GROWTH is all Bush has to show for.

Demand side economic is the heart of Obama's stimulus package. It alone supports close to 3 million private jobs still existing today. A total of 10.3 million jobs were created since Obama came to office.

CBO Stimulus Supports 2.9 Million Jobs Today FDL News Desk

Obama 8217 s Numbers July 2014 Update

Sam Brownback s failed experiment puts state on path to penury - The Washington Post

I am sure you think Detroit is a success?

 

[Billy000]

There is NOTHING communist about Obama. If he was, why wouldn't we Liberals just admit it? You claim we love communism (we don't)

liberals are far too stupid to know it


Norman Thomas quotes:

The American people will never knowingly adopt Socialism. But under the name of 'liberalism' they will adopt every fragment of the Socialist program, until one day America will be a Socialist nation, without knowing how it happened.


This was precisely the tactic of “infiltration” advocated by Lenin and Stalin.[3] As Communist International General Secretary Georgi Dimitroff told the Seventh World Congress of the Comintern in 1935:
"Comrades, you remember the ancient tale of the capture of Troy. Troy was inaccessible to the armies attacking her, thanks to her impregnable walls. And the attacking army, after suffering many sacrifices, was unable to achieve victory until, with the aid of the famous Trojan horse, it managed to penetrate to the very heart of the enemy’s camp."[4]

C. S. Lewis on Diabolical Democracy Socialism and Public Education Conservative Colloquium


Buckley endorsed Chambers’ analysis of modern liberalism as a watered-down version of Communist ideology. The New Deal, Chambers insists, is not liberal democratic but “revolutionary” in its nature and intentions, seeking “a basic change in the social and, above all, the power relationships within the nation.”

"I am for socialism, disarmament, and, ultimately, for abolishing the state itself... I seek the social ownership of property, the abolition of the propertied class, and the sole control of those who produce wealth. Communism is the goal."
--- Roger Nash Baldwin

So you quoting a few partisan hacks is supposed to be proof of anything?

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

Why is California's economy booming with its higher taxes? It does better than Texas.

perhaps becuase hollywood and silicon valley are there plus they have great weather and are on a beautiful coast!! Imagie how well they being doing with a favorable tax climate.

True but why does it still have a higher tax rate than Texas?

dear, there are many many factors involved. Ireland has low taxes but that does not make it richest

Well my overall point is that there no evidence that cutting taxes for the wealthy significantly stimuluates job growth.

There is NOTHING communist about Obama. If he was, why wouldn't we Liberals just admit it? You claim we love communism (we don't)

liberals are far too stupid to know it


Norman Thomas quotes:

The American people will never knowingly adopt Socialism. But under the name of 'liberalism' they will adopt every fragment of the Socialist program, until one day America will be a Socialist nation, without knowing how it happened.


This was precisely the tactic of “infiltration” advocated by Lenin and Stalin.[3] As Communist International General Secretary Georgi Dimitroff told the Seventh World Congress of the Comintern in 1935:
"Comrades, you remember the ancient tale of the capture of Troy. Troy was inaccessible to the armies attacking her, thanks to her impregnable walls. And the attacking army, after suffering many sacrifices, was unable to achieve victory until, with the aid of the famous Trojan horse, it managed to penetrate to the very heart of the enemy’s camp."[4]

C. S. Lewis on Diabolical Democracy Socialism and Public Education Conservative Colloquium


Buckley endorsed Chambers’ analysis of modern liberalism as a watered-down version of Communist ideology. The New Deal, Chambers insists, is not liberal democratic but “revolutionary” in its nature and intentions, seeking “a basic change in the social and, above all, the power relationships within the nation.”

"I am for socialism, disarmament, and, ultimately, for abolishing the state itself... I seek the social ownership of property, the abolition of the propertied class, and the sole control of those who produce wealth. Communism is the goal."
--- Roger Nash Baldwin

So you quoting a few partisan hacks is supposed to be proof of anything?

dear you said Obama was not a communist. I explained to you that he was and you are too if you support him.

“I believe there are more instances of the abridgment of the freedom of the people by gradual and silent encroachments of those in power than by violent and sudden usurpations.” James Madison
― James Madison

 

[Kosh]

...economic stimulator, where is your proof that any rightwing economic stimulator is effective? When will you just admit you have been wrong all along?

Bush's pathetic job growth and the recent Kansas experiment is more than enough proof. 1.1 million jobs in JOB GROWTH is all Bush has to show for.

Demand side economic is the heart of Obama's stimulus package. It alone supports close to 3 million private jobs still existing today. A total of 10.3 million jobs were created since Obama came to office.

CBO Stimulus Supports 2.9 Million Jobs Today FDL News Desk

Obama 8217 s Numbers July 2014 Update

Sam Brownback s failed experiment puts state on path to penury - The Washington Post

Keep up the lies, they really make you look bad.

I gave you facts from non partisan sources. They aren't lies. Grow up.

Using known far left sources then clalling them "non partisan sources" really does not help your case.

You: "the far left derp derp derp"

Do you have anything to offer this thread besides vague rants about the far left? You don't even know what the difference between the far left and the moderates is.

Yes the far left can not handle being called or ignores that that Obama extended said tax cuts.

Which makes their far left rant on this subject moot..

Need to update your far left programmed talking points.

And yes you are a far left Hack! You just need to own it now.

 

[Kosh]

There is NOTHING communist about Obama. If he was, why wouldn't we Liberals just admit it? You claim we love communism (we don't)

liberals are far too stupid to know it


Norman Thomas quotes:

The American people will never knowingly adopt Socialism. But under the name of 'liberalism' they will adopt every fragment of the Socialist program, until one day America will be a Socialist nation, without knowing how it happened.


This was precisely the tactic of “infiltration” advocated by Lenin and Stalin.[3] As Communist International General Secretary Georgi Dimitroff told the Seventh World Congress of the Comintern in 1935:
"Comrades, you remember the ancient tale of the capture of Troy. Troy was inaccessible to the armies attacking her, thanks to her impregnable walls. And the attacking army, after suffering many sacrifices, was unable to achieve victory until, with the aid of the famous Trojan horse, it managed to penetrate to the very heart of the enemy’s camp."[4]

C. S. Lewis on Diabolical Democracy Socialism and Public Education Conservative Colloquium


Buckley endorsed Chambers’ analysis of modern liberalism as a watered-down version of Communist ideology. The New Deal, Chambers insists, is not liberal democratic but “revolutionary” in its nature and intentions, seeking “a basic change in the social and, above all, the power relationships within the nation.”

"I am for socialism, disarmament, and, ultimately, for abolishing the state itself... I seek the social ownership of property, the abolition of the propertied class, and the sole control of those who produce wealth. Communism is the goal."
--- Roger Nash Baldwin

So you quoting a few partisan hacks is supposed to be proof of anything?

The irony of that post from the far left hack!

 

[Billy000]

True but why does it still have a higher tax rate than Texas?

dear, there are many many factors involved. Ireland has low taxes but that does not make it richest

Well my overall point is that there no evidence that cutting taxes for the wealthy significantly stimuluates job growth.

dear, the wealthy create jobs with money the more you steal from them the less they can do.

No the facts nowadays shows that the wealthy are hoarding most of their money. They are investing less and less. That is why cutting their taxes does little to stimulate growth.

Oh, and collecting taxes isn't theft. Revenue pays the government's expenses. Less revenue means more borrowing which means more debt. What the fuck do you think pays for our military and public schools?

No the facts nowadays shows that the wealthy are hoarding most of their money.

Link?

They are investing less and less.

They'll invest more once the Dems lose the Senate and Obama can't cause more harm.

When have you ever provided links?

Here's mine because I'm more mature than you:

How the Job Creators REALLY Spend Their Money Common Dreams Breaking News Views for the Progressive Community

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

dear, there are many many factors involved. Ireland has low taxes but that does not make it richest

Well my overall point is that there no evidence that cutting taxes for the wealthy significantly stimuluates job growth.

dear, the wealthy create jobs with money the more you steal from them the less they can do.

No the facts nowadays shows that the wealthy are hoarding most of their money. They are investing less and less. That is why cutting their taxes does little to stimulate growth.

Oh, and collecting taxes isn't theft. Revenue pays the government's expenses. Less revenue means more borrowing which means more debt. What the fuck do you think pays for our military and public schools?

No the facts nowadays shows that the wealthy are hoarding most of their money.

Link?

They are investing less and less.

They'll invest more once the Dems lose the Senate and Obama can't cause more harm.

When have you ever provided links?

Here's mine because I'm more mature than you:

How the Job Creators REALLY Spend Their Money Common Dreams Breaking News Views for the Progressive Community

dear, we don't take reading assignments from liberals. Present your best idea or admit you lack the IQ to be here. Are you so slow as to not know that with google we could all present 1000's of links?

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

Well my overall point is that there no evidence that cutting taxes for the wealthy significantly stimuluates job growth.

dear, the wealthy create jobs with money the more you steal from them the less they can do.

No the facts nowadays shows that the wealthy are hoarding most of their money. They are investing less and less. That is why cutting their taxes does little to stimulate growth.

Oh, and collecting taxes isn't theft. Revenue pays the government's expenses. Less revenue means more borrowing which means more debt. What the fuck do you think pays for our military and public schools?

No the facts nowadays shows that the wealthy are hoarding most of their money.

Link?

They are investing less and less.

They'll invest more once the Dems lose the Senate and Obama can't cause more harm.

When have you ever provided links?

Here's mine because I'm more mature than you:

How the Job Creators REALLY Spend Their Money Common Dreams Breaking News Views for the Progressive Community

dear, we don't take reading assignments from liberals. Present your best idea or admit you lack the IQ to be here. Are so slow as to not know that with google we could all present 1000's of links?

a liberal would be that slow!

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

dear, there are many many factors involved. Ireland has low taxes but that does not make it richest

Well my overall point is that there no evidence that cutting taxes for the wealthy significantly stimuluates job growth.

dear, the wealthy create jobs with money the more you steal from them the less they can do.

No the facts nowadays shows that the wealthy are hoarding most of their money. They are investing less and less. That is why cutting their taxes does little to stimulate growth.

Oh, and collecting taxes isn't theft. Revenue pays the government's expenses. Less revenue means more borrowing which means more debt. What the fuck do you think pays for our military and public schools?

No the facts nowadays shows that the wealthy are hoarding most of their money.

Link?

They are investing less and less.

They'll invest more once the Dems lose the Senate and Obama can't cause more harm.

When have you ever provided links?

Here's mine because I'm more mature than you:

How the Job Creators REALLY Spend Their Money Common Dreams Breaking News Views for the Progressive Community

I provide links all the time. And I don't make idiotic claims like the rich are hoarding most of their wealth.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Here's mine because I'm more mature than you:

How the Job Creators REALLY Spend Their Money Common Dreams Breaking News Views for the Progressive Community

You're an idiot.

Marketwatch estimates that over 90% of the assets owned by millionaires are held in a combination of low-risk investments (bonds and cash), the stock market, and real estate. According to economist Richard Wolff, about half of the assets of the richest 1% are held in unincorporated business equity (personal business accounts). The Wall Street Journal notes that over three-quarters of individuals worth over $20 million are invested in hedge funds.

With the possible exception of cash, how can you think any of those is hoarding?

I guess I could ask again for you to provide a source that proves "the wealthy are hoarding most of their money",
but you'd just fail, miserably, again.

 

[Yarddog]

I didn't say high taxes stimuluates economic growth. I said cutting taxes does very little to stimuluates growth. There are much more effective ways to boost growth.

Job growth under Reagan was good, but that's all you republicans have to show for. Clinton's job growth was just as good. Both Bush presidents had pathetic job growth in comparison to Obama.

ND's growth has to do with the energy industry as well. Obviously that has always been the case for that industry. Cutting taxes, again, is not why Texas and ND have strong growth. Tell me how do you explain California's job growth? Taxes aren't low there.

Uh, care to compare the economic growth under Reagan compared to Carter?

My 45 years living on this planet and my college education in this area give me the expertise to say you are full of shit claiming higher taxes stimulates growth.

North Dakota is growing faster than New York because of fossil fuel exploration which is banned in NY and because of lower taxes for companies and people....shut the fuck up, asswipe.

You're a cock-sucking piece of shit on the internet spewing the bullshit preached to you on the Comedy Channel.

The US economy will slowly recover no matter who is POTUS because it is large and there are checks and balances that prevent Obama from destroying everything he wants to destroy (Congress and the Courts stop him).

His policies have made any growth slower and has put some sectors and companies out of business for good.

The bitch running for the US Senate in Kentucky was caught on video telling her supporters she is going to take down the coal industry, then she goes out in public talking about defending coal from Obama. That is pretty much the proof you idiots are more interested in destroying the US economy than fixing it.

ASSWIPE...you are just a fucking retard if you haven't noticed what happened in Blue state Michigan with Detroit run by scum like you going back to the 60s.

You are also a fucking idiot to not know about the flight of jobs from northern Blue rust belt states to Red sun belt states like TN, AL, FL.

It is because scum like you turned those Blue states into welfare dumps with high taxes on companies and the rich, who in turn packed up and left leaving shitholes like Detroit in its own shit.

Lol you still haven't provided any proof of any of your claims.

You are right that Texas has an impressive economy. However that has more to do with the industries that have always been there such as the energy. That industry has always been booming. However, there is no evidence this has to do with cutting taxes. Red states like Mississippi has always been a poor state despite low taxes. Not only that but job growth in Texas under Bush was pathetic. It didn't improve until 2010.

Lol you can't talk about anecdotal stories of fracking and expect that to be evidence of anything. Statistics is what matters. You are also a hypocrite. You claim the poor job growth in Texas during Bush has nothing to with Bush yet you blame Obama for slow recovery now. You are pathetic.

How would you encourage outside business from moving back into a city like Detroit? Wouldnt it be worth it to offer them huge tax incentives and other forms of incentives whatever they may be in order to reverse what is going on in Detroit? Or would you prefer to raise taxes there even more as the solution? I think in a case like Detroit it should be considered an emergency situation and they should do whatever it takes to get businesses back again
even if that means people working at lower wages to start and government agencies cashing in less in fees, permits, and taxes.

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

how can you think any of those is hoarding?

it fits the libcommie narrative that the rich have their money in their mattresses and all we have to do is steal it to make the economy roar. In short, the libcommie feels those who steal it can invest it better than those who earned it. 100% idiotic.

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

How would you encourage outside business from moving back into a city like Detroit?

Same way South Carolina got BMW's biggest plant in the world. Kick the unions out!