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CaféAuLait;8942155 said:How would constantly monitoring their locations prevented them from killing these women?
Those locations didn't become "crime scenes" until after they commited the crimes.
My assumption and understanding of these devices they show if the parolee has left a specific area, and the device sends alerts to the agency in charge. So either the parolees were killing and burying these women within that defined area or they were leaving it and no one was checking data that is presumably supposed to be monitored.
That would be true had they been on house arrest, not on parole.
People on parole can pretty much go where they want - they may have a curfew, and have to get a job and check in regularly, but they're not confined to their houses as a general rule.
CaféAuLait;8942155 said:How would constantly monitoring their locations prevented them from killing these women?
Those locations didn't become "crime scenes" until after they commited the crimes.
My assumption and understanding of these devices they show if the parolee has left a specific area, and the device sends alerts to the agency in charge. So either the parolees were killing and burying these women within that defined area or they were leaving it and no one was checking data that is presumably supposed to be monitored.
That would be true had they been on house arrest, not on parole.
People on parole can pretty much go where they want - they may have a curfew, and have to get a job and check in regularly, but they're not confined to their houses as a general rule.
CaféAuLait;8942155 said:How would constantly monitoring their locations prevented them from killing these women?
Those locations didn't become "crime scenes" until after they commited the crimes.
My assumption and understanding of these devices they show if the parolee has left a specific area, and the device sends alerts to the agency in charge. So either the parolees were killing and burying these women within that defined area or they were leaving it and no one was checking data that is presumably supposed to be monitored.
you would think so
otherwise what is the point in having them issued
CaféAuLait;8942182 said:CaféAuLait;8942155 said:My assumption and understanding of these devices they show if the parolee has left a specific area, and the device sends alerts to the agency in charge. So either the parolees were killing and burying these women within that defined area or they were leaving it and no one was checking data that is presumably supposed to be monitored.
you would think so
otherwise what is the point in having them issued
Yeah, I agree, it makes no sense to have them if they are not monitored and can go anywhere they want.
CaféAuLait;8942155 said:How would constantly monitoring their locations prevented them from killing these women?
Those locations didn't become "crime scenes" until after they commited the crimes.
My assumption and understanding of these devices they show if the parolee has left a specific area, and the device sends alerts to the agency in charge. So either the parolees were killing and burying these women within that defined area or they were leaving it and no one was checking data that is presumably supposed to be monitored.
CaféAuLait;8942155 said:How would constantly monitoring their locations prevented them from killing these women?
Those locations didn't become "crime scenes" until after they commited the crimes.
My assumption and understanding of these devices they show if the parolee has left a specific area, and the device sends alerts to the agency in charge. So either the parolees were killing and burying these women within that defined area or they were leaving it and no one was checking data that is presumably supposed to be monitored.
No the data is being checked. You go outside your area they know. No one did anything wrong. Just because a crime is committed near me doesn't mean I did it.
CaféAuLait;8942182 said:you would think so
otherwise what is the point in having them issued
Yeah, I agree, it makes no sense to have them if they are not monitored and can go anywhere they want.
Well, another point would be for exactly what happened: to catch them if they violate the law again.
I know how they did it..................
They spent around a month or so to get the patterns of phone calls and visits down so they could predict when they were going to be checked on.
They also learned a super awesome way to make S'mores, that not only tasted good, but would lure people from down the street to their house.
They'd lure the ladies to their house (with the help of the awesome fragrance of the S'mores), and then kill them.
Face it..............it's the cooking that allows them to be cereal killers.
unless you know some secret guys need to learn and women need to be aware of. CaféAuLait;8942241 said:Not just "near" you, but puts you where 4 bodies were dumped in different places 4 separate times and puts you on the road these women frequented. You're a sex offender that has already escaped once, yeah you're a very likely suspect.
CaféAuLait;8942249 said:I know how they did it..................
They spent around a month or so to get the patterns of phone calls and visits down so they could predict when they were going to be checked on.
They also learned a super awesome way to make S'mores, that not only tasted good, but would lure people from down the street to their house.
They'd lure the ladies to their house (with the help of the awesome fragrance of the S'mores), and then kill them.
Face it..............it's the cooking that allows them to be cereal killers.
Toasted marshmallows, Graham Crackers, and Hershey bars, attract ladies to a house? Maybe your sugar is off a bit from too many s'mores.
CaféAuLait;8942241 said:Not just "near" you, but puts you where 4 bodies were dumped in different places 4 separate times and puts you on the road these women frequented. You're a sex offender that has already escaped once, yeah you're a very likely suspect.
Which is why they were able to arrest him. Sounds like it worked to me.
Yes it did. That is how they proved he was there. But that is not what this thread is really about. Keep up.
Unfortunately, being a prostitute is like volunteering to be a victim of violence; it may be the most dangerous occupation in the US. According to the article, though both of these men had a history of sex offenses, they hadn't done anything so violent. So, it would seem not unrealistic they were paroled and monitored. They actually checked in regularly with parole officers. The monitors are meant to make sure they stay within a specified area, not what they do in that area. It proves that if someone is determined to do some mischief, they will do it. I think that when a convicted felon is on parole, they are not supposed to associate with others on parole, but obviously they do. They were not monitored closely enough; they never are, but we do not have the finances to monitor those on parole as closely as we should. The bracelets did help the police to determine these were the men who committed the crimes.
CaféAuLait;8942307 said:Yes it did. That is how they proved he was there. But that is not what this thread is really about. Keep up.
Uh, what is the thread about if not for the fact they ( there were 2 killers not one) were on parole and not being monitored while wearing GPS systems, allowing them to murder 5 plus women over a years period of time.
CaféAuLait;8942307 said:Yes it did. That is how they proved he was there. But that is not what this thread is really about. Keep up.
Uh, what is the thread about if not for the fact they ( there were 2 killers not one) were on parole and not being monitored while wearing GPS systems, allowing them to murder 5 plus women over a years period of time.
Uh it is about locking people up.
CaféAuLait;8942249 said:I know how they did it..................
They spent around a month or so to get the patterns of phone calls and visits down so they could predict when they were going to be checked on.
They also learned a super awesome way to make S'mores, that not only tasted good, but would lure people from down the street to their house.
They'd lure the ladies to their house (with the help of the awesome fragrance of the S'mores), and then kill them.
Face it..............it's the cooking that allows them to be cereal killers.
Toasted marshmallows, Graham Crackers, and Hershey bars, attract ladies to a house? Maybe your sugar is off a bit from too many s'mores.
Yeah........................I do know a secret....................
Ever seen the movie "Michael" with John Travolta?
He smelled like cookies, and the women fell all over themselves for him.
That's true. It doesn't seem reasonable to allow people on parole who had broken parole before by cutting their bracelets and trying to escape.CaféAuLait;8942312 said:Unfortunately, being a prostitute is like volunteering to be a victim of violence; it may be the most dangerous occupation in the US. According to the article, though both of these men had a history of sex offenses, they hadn't done anything so violent. So, it would seem not unrealistic they were paroled and monitored. They actually checked in regularly with parole officers. The monitors are meant to make sure they stay within a specified area, not what they do in that area. It proves that if someone is determined to do some mischief, they will do it. I think that when a convicted felon is on parole, they are not supposed to associate with others on parole, but obviously they do. They were not monitored closely enough; they never are, but we do not have the finances to monitor those on parole as closely as we should. The bracelets did help the police to determine these were the men who committed the crimes.
I agree to an extent. However, given they were re-arrested (about the same time the murders started) for escaping and breaking parole it makes no sense to have allowed them to continue to be monitored by ankle bracelets they had just cut off and had to be captured for...
