So the republican solution to our healthcare system is as little government as possible right?

[dblack]

The main benefit of ACA is that is saved the insurance industry from a lot of upheaval they didn't want to deal with. By the late 90's, the health insurance industry's game was up and they saw the writing on the wall. The major players looked at "Romneycare" and saw a means of inserting themselves as permament middlemen in every health care transaction, riding the health care gravy train by government mandate. Guaranteed customers, guaranteed profits.

And they hired soulless ghouls like Greenbeard to sell people on it.

 

[P@triot]

A year in which only 3% of the population switched insurances or providers would be the lowest turnover on record.

Big difference between “switched” and “an illegal/unconstitutional government mandate forced insurers to eliminate affordable policies for people, causing 10 million to lose their coverage”.

Look at you just posting propaganda after propaganda! Go on with your had self, Greeny! Twisting facts into pure misinformation to advance your dream of sitting on the couch while everyone else works and provides for you as slaves!

 

[Greenbeard]

Big difference between “switched” and “an illegal/unconstitutional government mandate forced insurers to eliminate affordable policies for people, causing 10 million to lose their coverage”.

Insurers weren't forced to eliminate anything.

42 U.S. Code § 18011 - Preservation of right to maintain existing coverage

www.law.cornell.edu

 

[P@triot]

Insurers weren't forced to eliminate anything.

42 U.S. Code § 18011 - Preservation of right to maintain existing coverage

www.law.cornell.edu

Obamacare mandated that policies meet specific criteria. Those that didn’t, were forced to be eliminated. That is a fact. And that is why 10 million people lost their coverage.

How do you know when Greenbeard is lying? Whenever he’s posting.

 

[Greenbeard]

Obamacare mandated that policies meet specific criteria. Those that didn’t, were forced to be eliminated. That is a fact.

Except that it's not a fact.

42 U.S. Code § 18011 - Preservation of right to maintain existing coverage

www.law.cornell.edu

Looking forward to your next set of fabricated "facts" and figures. Why stop at 10 million? Maybe 100 million people lost their coverage and were put down by their death panel!

 

[Greenbeard]

Hahahahaha!! The federal government itself is now reporting that 23 million more people are set to lose their coverage thanks to the crap sandwich that is Obamacare

CBO Report: AHCA Drops Number of Insured by 23 Million by 2026

The Congressional Budget Office report states that under the American Health Care Act (AHCA) 14 million people will lose insurance in 2018, while 23 million would lose insurance by 2026.

www.breitbart.com

Jesus Christ. The American Health Care Act was the GOP's ACA repeal law the Republican House passed under the Trump administration in spring 2017 you moron.

Luckily it failed in the Senate and millions of people in fact didn't lose their coverage.

 

[P@triot]

Why stop at 10 million? Maybe 100 million people lost their coverage and were put down by their death panel!

Because I’m not a pathological liar like you are. 10 million lost their coverage. That’s the actual number, so that’s what I shared.

 

[P@triot]

Jesus Christ. The American Health Care Act was the GOP's ACA repeal law the Republican House passed under the Trump administration in spring 2017 you moron.

Luckily it failed in the Senate and millions of people in fact didn't lose their coverage.

My mistake on that one. Deleted.

 

[Greenbeard]

My mistake on that one. Deleted.

Why? It's an important monument to how little you have any fucking idea what you're talking about.

Good opportunity for some self-reflection.

 

[P@triot]

Except that it's not a fact.

Except that it is a fact. Obamacare mandated specific criteria in all policies and those that didn’t meet those criteria were eliminated - causing people to lose their coverage.

It’s not my fault you’re uneducated about what you supported. Damn shame you weren’t paying attention in 2009, 2010, etc.

 

[Greenbeard]

Because I’m not a pathological liar like you are. 10 million lost their coverage.

Here what's happened to coverage.

 

[P@triot]

Why?

Because I don’t believe in spreading disinformation like you do. When I make a mistake, I acknowledge it and correct it.

 

[Greenbeard]

Because I don’t believe in spreading disinformation like you do.

Then you've got a lot more of your posts in this thread to delete.

 

[Greenbeard]

Except that it is a fact. Obamacare mandated specific criteria in all policies

Disinformation.

42 U.S. Code § 18011 - Preservation of right to maintain existing coverage

www.law.cornell.edu

 

[P@triot]

Here what's happened to coverage.

Nice chart. Too bad it doesn’t show how 10 million lost their policies. Of course they ran out and got new coverage (at a much higher cost to them). They didn’t stay uninsured (only liberals do that shit).

Doesn’t change the fact that Obamacare shut down their policies and left them uninsured. Then cost them more money to get covered again.

 

[P@triot]

Disinformation.

42 U.S. Code § 18011 - Preservation of right to maintain existing coverage

www.law.cornell.edu

Yep. Exactly. Disinformation.

It is such a joy exposing lying liberals and uneducated leftists:

In October 2013, many people insured through the individual market began receiving letters from their insurance carriers notifying them that their current plans would be canceled at the end of the policy term. The plans were canceled because they did not meet new minimum coverage requirements set by the law. On October 29, 2013, NBC News reported that 50% to 75% of the 14 million Americans with individual healthcare plans would receive a cancellation notice in the next year

Health insurance policy cancellations since Obamacare

Ballotpedia: The Encyclopedia of American Politics

ballotpedia.org

 

[P@triot]

Except that it's not a fact.

Hey Greenbeard, if it’s “not” a fact, why did Obama hold a press conference about it?

This one is really going to sting Greeny, as it’s directly from the official White House government website:

President Obama Announces New Steps to Help Americans Receiving Insurance Cancellation Notices

President Obama announces that insurers can offer customers the option to renew their 2013 health plans in 2014, without change, allowing them to keep their plans.

obamawhitehouse.archives.gov

 

[Greenbeard]

Nice chart. Too bad it doesn’t show how 10 million lost their policies. Of course they ran out and got new coverage (at a much higher cost to them). They didn’t stay uninsured (only liberals do that shit).

Doesn’t change the fact that Obamacare shut down their policies and left them uninsured. Then cost them more money to get covered again.

Fake news. Back in 2014 when the ACA took effect, the vast majority of individual market buyers were paying premiums under a hundred bucks, with almost half with premiums under $50.

69 percent of individuals selecting plans with tax credits in the FFM have premiums of $100 or less after tax credits—nearly half (46 percent) have premiums of $50 or less after tax credits.

Those dropping their old individual market coverage were by and large getting better coverage at lower cost to them.

If this is news to you, I can see why a decade later it must be confusing to you that the ACA is established and popular at this point.

 

[Orangecat]

So the republican solution to our healthcare system is as little government as possible right?​

Wrong.

 

[Greenbeard]

Hey Greenbeard, if it’s “not” a fact, why did Obama hold a press conference about it?

This one is really going to sting Greeny, as it’s directly from the official White House government website:

President Obama Announces New Steps to Help Americans Receiving Insurance Cancellation Notices

President Obama announces that insurers can offer customers the option to renew their 2013 health plans in 2014, without change, allowing them to keep their plans.

obamawhitehouse.archives.gov

Wow, a link confirming that your claim that 10 million people switched plans is made-up. I guess your claim is that 10 million would have if Obama hadn't taken action?