So You Hate Socialism.......

[Mertex]

So we hear so many Americans claim they hate socialism and don't think Bernie Sanders would have a chance to win if he were selected as the Democratic candidate. I wonder how many truly understand socialism and are even enjoying socialism without even realizing it.

The one that really surprises me is the military......conservatives claim they love the military and don't mind the bulk of our tax-payer money going toward maintaining it....the military, it's the closest to socialism of the many programs we support.


Socialism.

There is nothing more feared and hated in America.

The word alone sends shivers down the spine of the American people.

Those three syllables conger up images of Big Brother Government ruling over us all, telling us what to eat, wear, buy, and think. Our children in national uniform being indoctrinated with propaganda in government education camps that use to be schools, turning them into little slaves. While their parents work twelve hour shifts in the concentration camp that slaughters rich successful billionaires, as the poor and needy get a million dollars a month in welfare. A murderous government waging a war against freedom and liberty to gain complete control over everyone and everything.
They imagine the USSR and how Democrats are turning America into it because our government will give money to poor people so they don't starve to death. (Giving money to billion dollar corporations is NOT socialism somehow. You would be a communist and a hippie to think otherwise.)

This is scary stuff!

And it's about to get scarier, because I have some terrifying news for you....

Socialism is alive and well in America and it has been here for a very long time!

Oh, that's not all. it gets much worse! I hope your sitting down...

As it turns out, You love socialism and you use it everyday, and you may not even know it! It may have even saved your life. I know, this is bad...


1. The Military/Defense - The United States military is the largest and most funded socialist program in the world. It operates thanks to our taxpayer dollars and protects the country as a whole. From the richest citizens to the homeless who sleep under the bridge. We are all protected by our military whether we pay taxes or not. This is complete socialism.

2. Highways/Roads - Those roads and highways you drive on every single day are completely taxpayer funded. Your tax dollars are used to maintain, expand, and preserve our highways and roads for every one's use. President Eisenhower was inspired by Germany's autobahn and implemented the idea right here in America. That's right, a republican president created our taxpayer funded, national highway system. This was a different time, before the republican party came down with a vicious case of rabies that never went away.

3. Public Libraries - Yes. That place where you go to check out books from conservative authors telling you how horrible socialism is, is in fact socialism. Libraries are taxpayer funded. You pay a few bucks to get a library card and you can read books for free for the rest of your life.

4. Police - Ever had a situation where you had to call the police? Then you have used a taxpayer funded socialist program. Anyone can call the police whether they pay taxes or not. They are there to protect and serve the community, not individuals. This is complete socialism on a state level, but still socialism all the same. Would you rather have to swipe your credit card before the police will help you?

5. Fire Dept. - Hopefully you have never had a fire in your home. But if you have, you probably called your local taxpayer-funded fire department to put the fire out. Like police, this is state socialism. You tax dollars are used to rescue your entire community in case of a fire. It use to be set up where you would pay a fee every month to the fire dept. for their service. If you didn't pay, they let your house burn down. Sadly, a man from Tennessee had this exact situation happen to him in 2011 because he didn't pay his $75.00 fee. I guess that small town in Tennessee would rather let people's houses burn down that resort to evil socialism. So don't take for granted the fact that you have a 24/7 fire dept. to put out your burning home thanks to socialism.

6. Postal Service - Like having mail delivered directly to your front door and paying next to nothing to send mail anywhere you want? Well it's all made possible by socialism.

7. Student Loans and Grants - Did you go to College? If you did, you family might not have been rich enough to pay your way through. So you got your education anyway through student loans and grants from the federal government at taxpayer expense. Of course you have to pay back the loans, but if not the government, did you know anyone else who was going to lend you tens of thousands of dollars? Probably not. So the taxpayers lent you the money and you paid it back with slight interest. The government grants you accepted were gifts from the taxpayer and the federal government that you did not have to pay back. Socialism got you through school.

(and 68 more..............)
75 Ways Socialism Has Improved America

 

[Ernie S.]

Daily Kos???? Really?

 

[Conservative65]

So we hear so many Americans claim they hate socialism and don't think Bernie Sanders would have a chance to win if he were selected as the Democratic candidate. I wonder how many truly understand socialism and are even enjoying socialism without even realizing it.

The one that really surprises me is the military......conservatives claim they love the military and don't mind the bulk of our tax-payer money going toward maintaining it....the military, it's the closest to socialism of the many programs we support.


Socialism.

There is nothing more feared and hated in America.

The word alone sends shivers down the spine of the American people.

Those three syllables conger up images of Big Brother Government ruling over us all, telling us what to eat, wear, buy, and think. Our children in national uniform being indoctrinated with propaganda in government education camps that use to be schools, turning them into little slaves. While their parents work twelve hour shifts in the concentration camp that slaughters rich successful billionaires, as the poor and needy get a million dollars a month in welfare. A murderous government waging a war against freedom and liberty to gain complete control over everyone and everything.
They imagine the USSR and how Democrats are turning America into it because our government will give money to poor people so they don't starve to death. (Giving money to billion dollar corporations is NOT socialism somehow. You would be a communist and a hippie to think otherwise.)

This is scary stuff!

And it's about to get scarier, because I have some terrifying news for you....

Socialism is alive and well in America and it has been here for a very long time!

Oh, that's not all. it gets much worse! I hope your sitting down...

As it turns out, You love socialism and you use it everyday, and you may not even know it! It may have even saved your life. I know, this is bad...


1. The Military/Defense - The United States military is the largest and most funded socialist program in the world. It operates thanks to our taxpayer dollars and protects the country as a whole. From the richest citizens to the homeless who sleep under the bridge. We are all protected by our military whether we pay taxes or not. This is complete socialism.

2. Highways/Roads - Those roads and highways you drive on every single day are completely taxpayer funded. Your tax dollars are used to maintain, expand, and preserve our highways and roads for every one's use. President Eisenhower was inspired by Germany's autobahn and implemented the idea right here in America. That's right, a republican president created our taxpayer funded, national highway system. This was a different time, before the republican party came down with a vicious case of rabies that never went away.

3. Public Libraries - Yes. That place where you go to check out books from conservative authors telling you how horrible socialism is, is in fact socialism. Libraries are taxpayer funded. You pay a few bucks to get a library card and you can read books for free for the rest of your life.

4. Police - Ever had a situation where you had to call the police? Then you have used a taxpayer funded socialist program. Anyone can call the police whether they pay taxes or not. They are there to protect and serve the community, not individuals. This is complete socialism on a state level, but still socialism all the same. Would you rather have to swipe your credit card before the police will help you?

5. Fire Dept. - Hopefully you have never had a fire in your home. But if you have, you probably called your local taxpayer-funded fire department to put the fire out. Like police, this is state socialism. You tax dollars are used to rescue your entire community in case of a fire. It use to be set up where you would pay a fee every month to the fire dept. for their service. If you didn't pay, they let your house burn down. Sadly, a man from Tennessee had this exact situation happen to him in 2011 because he didn't pay his $75.00 fee. I guess that small town in Tennessee would rather let people's houses burn down that resort to evil socialism. So don't take for granted the fact that you have a 24/7 fire dept. to put out your burning home thanks to socialism.

6. Postal Service - Like having mail delivered directly to your front door and paying next to nothing to send mail anywhere you want? Well it's all made possible by socialism.

7. Student Loans and Grants - Did you go to College? If you did, you family might not have been rich enough to pay your way through. So you got your education anyway through student loans and grants from the federal government at taxpayer expense. Of course you have to pay back the loans, but if not the government, did you know anyone else who was going to lend you tens of thousands of dollars? Probably not. So the taxpayers lent you the money and you paid it back with slight interest. The government grants you accepted were gifts from the taxpayer and the federal government that you did not have to pay back. Socialism got you through school.

(and 68 more..............)
75 Ways Socialism Has Improved America

1) It's about time those not paying the taxes that fund the military get to paying their fair share.

2) The majority of those taxes are paid through fuel taxes. If you don't use the road, you don't use the fuel.

3) There is no cost for a library card where I live. Local property taxes are the primary funding for the libraries here. If you don't own property on which to pay those taxes, I seriously doubt you're using the libraries funded by them.

4) I have. Since I pay the taxes that fund them, I'm getting what I paid for.

5) FD's are funded by local property taxes. If you don't have property to protect from fire, the fire dept. doesn't need to come to put out what you don't own.

6) Hate to break it to you but the postal service hasn't received direct taxpayer funding in almost 35 years.

7) My entire college funding was through academic and athletic scholarships. They were EARNED. My daughter is in college now and what academic scholarships, all privately funded and awarded, don't pay I pay out of pockets.

 

[TNHarley]

Nobody ever complains about basic govt services. Bullshit like that is why libertarians are basically non-existent.
Hack job of an OP.
How can a socialist(Bernie) support his massive welfare state AND immigration? Even his go to "Denmark" doesn't do immigration like that. Most of them don't. Maybe HE doesn't understand socialism so well..

 

[Mac1958]

The obvious and dishonest assumption being made here is that, since there are elements of what could be called socialism in our society, everyone is open to more and more elements being added until the process is complete. That we're all already a country of happy socialists.

I often wonder why it's so goddamn difficult to find honest discourse any more.
.

 

[Mertex]

So we hear so many Americans claim they hate socialism and don't think Bernie Sanders would have a chance to win if he were selected as the Democratic candidate. I wonder how many truly understand socialism and are even enjoying socialism without even realizing it.

The one that really surprises me is the military......conservatives claim they love the military and don't mind the bulk of our tax-payer money going toward maintaining it....the military, it's the closest to socialism of the many programs we support.


Socialism.

There is nothing more feared and hated in America.

The word alone sends shivers down the spine of the American people.

Those three syllables conger up images of Big Brother Government ruling over us all, telling us what to eat, wear, buy, and think. Our children in national uniform being indoctrinated with propaganda in government education camps that use to be schools, turning them into little slaves. While their parents work twelve hour shifts in the concentration camp that slaughters rich successful billionaires, as the poor and needy get a million dollars a month in welfare. A murderous government waging a war against freedom and liberty to gain complete control over everyone and everything.
They imagine the USSR and how Democrats are turning America into it because our government will give money to poor people so they don't starve to death. (Giving money to billion dollar corporations is NOT socialism somehow. You would be a communist and a hippie to think otherwise.)

This is scary stuff!

And it's about to get scarier, because I have some terrifying news for you....

Socialism is alive and well in America and it has been here for a very long time!

Oh, that's not all. it gets much worse! I hope your sitting down...

As it turns out, You love socialism and you use it everyday, and you may not even know it! It may have even saved your life. I know, this is bad...


1. The Military/Defense - The United States military is the largest and most funded socialist program in the world. It operates thanks to our taxpayer dollars and protects the country as a whole. From the richest citizens to the homeless who sleep under the bridge. We are all protected by our military whether we pay taxes or not. This is complete socialism.

2. Highways/Roads - Those roads and highways you drive on every single day are completely taxpayer funded. Your tax dollars are used to maintain, expand, and preserve our highways and roads for every one's use. President Eisenhower was inspired by Germany's autobahn and implemented the idea right here in America. That's right, a republican president created our taxpayer funded, national highway system. This was a different time, before the republican party came down with a vicious case of rabies that never went away.

3. Public Libraries - Yes. That place where you go to check out books from conservative authors telling you how horrible socialism is, is in fact socialism. Libraries are taxpayer funded. You pay a few bucks to get a library card and you can read books for free for the rest of your life.

4. Police - Ever had a situation where you had to call the police? Then you have used a taxpayer funded socialist program. Anyone can call the police whether they pay taxes or not. They are there to protect and serve the community, not individuals. This is complete socialism on a state level, but still socialism all the same. Would you rather have to swipe your credit card before the police will help you?

5. Fire Dept. - Hopefully you have never had a fire in your home. But if you have, you probably called your local taxpayer-funded fire department to put the fire out. Like police, this is state socialism. You tax dollars are used to rescue your entire community in case of a fire. It use to be set up where you would pay a fee every month to the fire dept. for their service. If you didn't pay, they let your house burn down. Sadly, a man from Tennessee had this exact situation happen to him in 2011 because he didn't pay his $75.00 fee. I guess that small town in Tennessee would rather let people's houses burn down that resort to evil socialism. So don't take for granted the fact that you have a 24/7 fire dept. to put out your burning home thanks to socialism.

6. Postal Service - Like having mail delivered directly to your front door and paying next to nothing to send mail anywhere you want? Well it's all made possible by socialism.

7. Student Loans and Grants - Did you go to College? If you did, you family might not have been rich enough to pay your way through. So you got your education anyway through student loans and grants from the federal government at taxpayer expense. Of course you have to pay back the loans, but if not the government, did you know anyone else who was going to lend you tens of thousands of dollars? Probably not. So the taxpayers lent you the money and you paid it back with slight interest. The government grants you accepted were gifts from the taxpayer and the federal government that you did not have to pay back. Socialism got you through school.

(and 68 more..............)
75 Ways Socialism Has Improved America

1) It's about time those not paying the taxes that fund the military get to paying their fair share.

2) The majority of those taxes are paid through fuel taxes. If you don't use the road, you don't use the fuel.

3) There is no cost for a library card where I live. Local property taxes are the primary funding for the libraries here. If you don't own property on which to pay those taxes, I seriously doubt you're using the libraries funded by them.

4) I have. Since I pay the taxes that fund them, I'm getting what I paid for.

5) FD's are funded by local property taxes. If you don't have property to protect from fire, the fire dept. doesn't need to come to put out what you don't own.

6) Hate to break it to you but the postal service hasn't received direct taxpayer funding in almost 35 years.

7) My entire college funding was through academic and athletic scholarships. They were EARNED. My daughter is in college now and what academic scholarships, all privately funded and awarded, don't pay I pay out of pockets.

Your post doesn't make much sense. Like #1.....what the hell do you mean? Who are those not paying taxes and now getting to pay their fair share? And #2, if you don't use the road you don't use the fuel? What does that even mean? Show me how anyone avoids using the roads?

And #3.....where did I say that you aren't entitled to use them. You obviously didn't understand the concept.....of course you pay for it, and of course you are entitled to use it...but so many like you, use it and don't even realize it and then claim it is soooooooo bad.

#5 Fire Department puts out plenty of forest fires....and the trees don't pay pay property taxes.....geez! You're really dumber than a shoe.

More frequent and larger forest fires in places where people increasingly live are imposing rapidly growing costs on federal and state governments. After all, most forest fires in the West burn on federal land.
Fire in the National Forest System | PERC – The Property and Environment Research Center

#6 Hate to break it to you, but the US Post Office isn't private owned and run. And, postal employees don't get paid from the sale of stamps.

#7 Whoopee......you found one that you don't take advantage of, pat yourself on the back.

 

[Mertex]

Nobody ever complains about basic govt services.

Conservatives complain plenty about basic government services.....what is amazing, is they don't realize how many of those government services they enjoy and wouldn't it be the pits if everything was private owned and run.....and everyone had to pay for the services, like the Library?

But, you're missing the point.....conservatives enjoy socialism even while claiming they hate it.

 

[TNHarley]

Nobody ever complains about basic govt services.

Conservatives complain plenty about basic government services.....what is amazing, is they don't realize how many of those government services they enjoy and wouldn't it be the pits if everything was private owned and run.....and everyone had to pay for the services, like the Library?

But, you're missing the point.....conservatives enjoy socialism even while claiming they hate it.

No, you don't get your own point. I have never heard of a conservative wanting to privatize everything..
And just because you have aspects of a certain property/economic/political theory , doesn't mean it is just that. We have aspects of socialism in our COTUS. But that doesn't mean people want the government to nationalize everything. It is called basic govt services. So that we can function as a responsible capitalist society.
The govt is supposed to work for US.

 

[Ringel05]

Nobody ever complains about basic govt services.

Conservatives complain plenty about basic government services.....what is amazing, is they don't realize how many of those government services they enjoy and wouldn't it be the pits if everything was private owned and run.....and everyone had to pay for the services, like the Library?

But, you're missing the point.....conservatives enjoy socialism even while claiming they hate it.

No one lives in a pure economic, sociopolitical system, anywhere.

 

[irosie91]

Calm yourselves children-------you are babbling as did the flower children of
the 1960s---------"socialism" "capitalism" "the west" "colonialism" etc
etc. are BUZZWORD imported from foreign "SALONS"

 

[jillian]

Daily Kos???? Really?

well, wouldn't be my choice necessarily, but could be worse... could have been newsmax or breitbart or worldnutdaily or fauxnews

 

[Ernie S.]

Nobody ever complains about basic govt services.

Conservatives complain plenty about basic government services.....what is amazing, is they don't realize how many of those government services they enjoy and wouldn't it be the pits if everything was private owned and run.....and everyone had to pay for the services, like the Library?

But, you're missing the point.....conservatives enjoy socialism even while claiming they hate it.

We DO pay for services. We pay for services that we use and for services we don't use. I don't have a problem with police and fire protection or libraries, you know those things available to everyone. What I disagree with is continuing support of people who are capable of supporting themselves.
I don't want to give $1,600/month to a family who's adult members should, at the very least, be scrubbing toilets at the city park in return.

 

[Asclepias]

Nobody ever complains about basic govt services.

Conservatives complain plenty about basic government services.....what is amazing, is they don't realize how many of those government services they enjoy and wouldn't it be the pits if everything was private owned and run.....and everyone had to pay for the services, like the Library?

But, you're missing the point.....conservatives enjoy socialism even while claiming they hate it.

You have to remember they have fallen for the idea that smaller government works if only those Mexicans, Blacks, gays, women, etc etc stop taking their jobs.

 

[dblack]

So we hear so many Americans claim they hate socialism and don't think Bernie Sanders would have a chance to win if he were selected as the Democratic candidate. I wonder how many truly understand socialism and are even enjoying socialism without even realizing it.

The one that really surprises me is the military......conservatives claim they love the military and don't mind the bulk of our tax-payer money going toward maintaining it....the military, it's the closest to socialism of the many programs we support.

The single consistent trait of all formulations of socialism is social ownership of the means of production. If you think the military is socialism, you need to count yourself first in your tally of those who don't understand socialism.

 

[Ernie S.]

Daily Kos???? Really?

well, wouldn't be my choice necessarily, but could be worse... could have been newsmax or breitbart or worldnutdaily or fauxnews

A matter of perspective, I suppose, but I find it interesting that I spelled out and capitalized Daily Kos and you didn't give the 4 Conservative sources the same courtesy.

 

[Asclepias]

So we hear so many Americans claim they hate socialism and don't think Bernie Sanders would have a chance to win if he were selected as the Democratic candidate. I wonder how many truly understand socialism and are even enjoying socialism without even realizing it.

The one that really surprises me is the military......conservatives claim they love the military and don't mind the bulk of our tax-payer money going toward maintaining it....the military, it's the closest to socialism of the many programs we support.

The single consistent trait of all formulations of socialism is social ownership of the means of production. If you think the military is socialism, you need to count yourself first in your tally of those who don't understand socialism.

The military is definitely not a democracy.

 

[Damaged Eagle]

I'm all for socializing some aspects that the progressives seem to think the government should control. Let's start with public education and the health care industry. Once they're nationalized we put all the employees that work in those areas on the government/military pay scale... I'ma' thinnkin' that all politicians should be put on the same pay scale too.

Just think of all the money, and time, we can save by having them on a set pay scale that only has to be voted on once a year instead of having to negotiate and decide on what the pay should be in countless bureaucratic agencies.

*****SMILE*****

 

[tigerred59]

So we hear so many Americans claim they hate socialism and don't think Bernie Sanders would have a chance to win if he were selected as the Democratic candidate. I wonder how many truly understand socialism and are even enjoying socialism without even realizing it.

The one that really surprises me is the military......conservatives claim they love the military and don't mind the bulk of our tax-payer money going toward maintaining it....the military, it's the closest to socialism of the many programs we support.


Socialism.

There is nothing more feared and hated in America.

The word alone sends shivers down the spine of the American people.

Those three syllables conger up images of Big Brother Government ruling over us all, telling us what to eat, wear, buy, and think. Our children in national uniform being indoctrinated with propaganda in government education camps that use to be schools, turning them into little slaves. While their parents work twelve hour shifts in the concentration camp that slaughters rich successful billionaires, as the poor and needy get a million dollars a month in welfare. A murderous government waging a war against freedom and liberty to gain complete control over everyone and everything.
They imagine the USSR and how Democrats are turning America into it because our government will give money to poor people so they don't starve to death. (Giving money to billion dollar corporations is NOT socialism somehow. You would be a communist and a hippie to think otherwise.)

This is scary stuff!

And it's about to get scarier, because I have some terrifying news for you....

Socialism is alive and well in America and it has been here for a very long time!

Oh, that's not all. it gets much worse! I hope your sitting down...

As it turns out, You love socialism and you use it everyday, and you may not even know it! It may have even saved your life. I know, this is bad...


1. The Military/Defense - The United States military is the largest and most funded socialist program in the world. It operates thanks to our taxpayer dollars and protects the country as a whole. From the richest citizens to the homeless who sleep under the bridge. We are all protected by our military whether we pay taxes or not. This is complete socialism.

2. Highways/Roads - Those roads and highways you drive on every single day are completely taxpayer funded. Your tax dollars are used to maintain, expand, and preserve our highways and roads for every one's use. President Eisenhower was inspired by Germany's autobahn and implemented the idea right here in America. That's right, a republican president created our taxpayer funded, national highway system. This was a different time, before the republican party came down with a vicious case of rabies that never went away.

3. Public Libraries - Yes. That place where you go to check out books from conservative authors telling you how horrible socialism is, is in fact socialism. Libraries are taxpayer funded. You pay a few bucks to get a library card and you can read books for free for the rest of your life.

4. Police - Ever had a situation where you had to call the police? Then you have used a taxpayer funded socialist program. Anyone can call the police whether they pay taxes or not. They are there to protect and serve the community, not individuals. This is complete socialism on a state level, but still socialism all the same. Would you rather have to swipe your credit card before the police will help you?

5. Fire Dept. - Hopefully you have never had a fire in your home. But if you have, you probably called your local taxpayer-funded fire department to put the fire out. Like police, this is state socialism. You tax dollars are used to rescue your entire community in case of a fire. It use to be set up where you would pay a fee every month to the fire dept. for their service. If you didn't pay, they let your house burn down. Sadly, a man from Tennessee had this exact situation happen to him in 2011 because he didn't pay his $75.00 fee. I guess that small town in Tennessee would rather let people's houses burn down that resort to evil socialism. So don't take for granted the fact that you have a 24/7 fire dept. to put out your burning home thanks to socialism.

6. Postal Service - Like having mail delivered directly to your front door and paying next to nothing to send mail anywhere you want? Well it's all made possible by socialism.

7. Student Loans and Grants - Did you go to College? If you did, you family might not have been rich enough to pay your way through. So you got your education anyway through student loans and grants from the federal government at taxpayer expense. Of course you have to pay back the loans, but if not the government, did you know anyone else who was going to lend you tens of thousands of dollars? Probably not. So the taxpayers lent you the money and you paid it back with slight interest. The government grants you accepted were gifts from the taxpayer and the federal government that you did not have to pay back. Socialism got you through school.

(and 68 more..............)
75 Ways Socialism Has Improved America

Until we grasp hold to the idea that most people in this country who vote republican, most are simply ignorant hicks who can sit on their ass and cash a disability check each month and still claim they hate socialism. They do so because they allow their brains to be defined by the bullshit the GOP feeds them....the same GOP who also gets a socialized check from tax payers each month and do nothing to earn it. The same GOP that spends most of its time in Washington fund raising to keep their socialized jobs and the same GOP who don't mind you being denied socialized programs, but they themselves enjoy immensely. If we do anything in this country, we must recognized that most people in this country are just stupid people who simply don't know no better.

If we were to strip this nation of every socialized institution created, these sorry bastards would fall by the wayside and panic. To prove my point, whats the first thing we do when shit hits the fan in this country? We scream for the federal government to do something!!! We don't run to the private sector, we don't reach out for a neighbor, we run head first to the wails of where is the feds!!

 

[Maryland Patriot]

just another BS post showing things that are for the good of all, things that fall under infrastructure or defense as described in the constitution, yet forgets to mention all of the give away programs for the lazy non productive slime bringing this country down.
Same game that's played when the liberals don't get there way with a tax increase, they mention reductions in Police, Fire, Schools, but never do they say that welfare will have to be cut back.
Same tired game.

 

[Maryland Patriot]

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I'm all for socializing some aspects that the progressives seem to think the government should control. Let's start with public education and the health care industry. Once they're nationalized we put all the employees that work in those areas on the government/military pay scale... I'ma' thinnkin' that all politicians should be put on the same pay scale too.

Just think of all the money, and time, we can save by having them on a set pay scale that only has to be voted on once a year instead of having to negotiate and decide on what the pay should be in countless bureaucratic agencies.

*****SMILE*****

I dont want the government anywhere near my health care.