So You Hate Socialism.......

[Camp]

So we hear so many Americans claim they hate socialism and don't think Bernie Sanders would have a chance to win if he were selected as the Democratic candidate. I wonder how many truly understand socialism and are even enjoying socialism without even realizing it.

The one that really surprises me is the military......conservatives claim they love the military and don't mind the bulk of our tax-payer money going toward maintaining it....the military, it's the closest to socialism of the many programs we support.

The single consistent trait of all formulations of socialism is social ownership of the means of production. If you think the military is socialism, you need to count yourself first in your tally of those who don't understand socialism.

There is room for debate on the military since it is the government, or people via elected officials that determine the amounts spent on military hardware and expenses. That could be interpreted as social ownership of the means of production as does all programs that would not exist but for a decision by the public to create something that otherwise would or could not exist. The "would or could" aspect offers the most fertile grounds for debate.

 

[Luddly Neddite]

Daily Kos???? Really?

Are you saying none of these things exist? Did you look at the original source?

Please post proof that the list is wrong, incorrect. Thanks.

 

[Maryland Patriot]

Daily Kos???? Really?

Are you saying none of these things exist? Did you look at the original source?

Please post proof that the list is wrong, incorrect. Thanks.

please post proof that the things listed are not accounted for in the constitution, and then explain why all the social BS like welfare and healthcare, free phones, transportation, food, housing etc... are not ever included in the liberal socialism rant.

 

[Asclepias]

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I'm all for socializing some aspects that the progressives seem to think the government should control. Let's start with public education and the health care industry. Once they're nationalized we put all the employees that work in those areas on the government/military pay scale... I'ma' thinnkin' that all politicians should be put on the same pay scale too.

Just think of all the money, and time, we can save by having them on a set pay scale that only has to be voted on once a year instead of having to negotiate and decide on what the pay should be in countless bureaucratic agencies.

*****SMILE*****

I dont want the government anywhere near my health care.

Too late. Without the government you would have probably died from something.

 

[tigerred59]

just another BS post showing things that are for the good of all, things that fall under infrastructure or defense as described in the constitution, yet forgets to mention all of the give away programs for the lazy non productive slime bringing this country down.
Same game that's played when the liberals don't get there way with a tax increase, they mention reductions in Police, Fire, Schools, but never do they say that welfare will have to be cut back.
Same tired game.

And that slime is what? Oil companies that get socialized money for what? A congress that has done nothing since being elected getting 6 figures of your money for what? I mean, pick your fuckin battles pal or shut the fuck up!! And just for the record, try living off of welfare for a month and you tell us how grand your life is, you fool

 

[Luddly Neddite]

Daily Kos???? Really?

Are you saying none of these things exist? Did you look at the original source?

Please post proof that the list is wrong, incorrect. Thanks.

please post proof that the things listed are not accounted for in the constitution, and then explain why all the social BS like welfare and healthcare, free phones, transportation, food, housing etc... are not ever included in the liberal socialism rant.

Please stay on topic, which is not the US Constitution. The second part of your statement is not true and, actually, doesn't make much sense.

His post criticized the source instead of addressing the content.

Fact is, there is strength in numbers. Rabid RWs say they are against "socialism" even though they really have no idea what Democratic Socialism is or how it is different from Socialism.

Question for the RWs: which of the 75 things listed would you end?

 

[tigerred59]

Daily Kos???? Really?

Are you saying none of these things exist? Did you look at the original source?

Please post proof that the list is wrong, incorrect. Thanks.

please post proof that the things listed are not accounted for in the constitution, and then explain why all the social BS like welfare and healthcare, free phones, transportation, food, housing etc... are not ever included in the liberal socialism rant.

That free phone you morons are hyped about......120 minutes a month....3 hours of talking for free for a month...man those people got it made,eh?

 

[Maryland Patriot]

just another BS post showing things that are for the good of all, things that fall under infrastructure or defense as described in the constitution, yet forgets to mention all of the give away programs for the lazy non productive slime bringing this country down.
Same game that's played when the liberals don't get there way with a tax increase, they mention reductions in Police, Fire, Schools, but never do they say that welfare will have to be cut back.
Same tired game.

And that slime is what? Oil companies that get socialized money for what? A congress that has done nothing since being elected getting 6 figures of your money for what? I mean, pick your fuckin battles pal or shut the fuck up!! And just for the record, try living off of welfare for a month and you tell us how grand your life is, you fool

So now its welfare if a company gets a tax break?
and if living off of other peoples pay check is so damn hard, how about you go out and earn your own money or shut the fuck up. People living off of life long welfare are getting way more than they are worth. Darwin comes to mind here.

 

[Maryland Patriot]

Daily Kos???? Really?

Are you saying none of these things exist? Did you look at the original source?

Please post proof that the list is wrong, incorrect. Thanks.

please post proof that the things listed are not accounted for in the constitution, and then explain why all the social BS like welfare and healthcare, free phones, transportation, food, housing etc... are not ever included in the liberal socialism rant.

That free phone you morons are hyped about......120 minutes a month....3 hours of talking for free for a month...man those people got it made,eh?

I have to pay for mine, why should I pay for theirs?
If they get off of their lazy asses and get a job, they can pay for their own phone with all the minutes they want.

 

[Asclepias]

Daily Kos???? Really?

Are you saying none of these things exist? Did you look at the original source?

Please post proof that the list is wrong, incorrect. Thanks.

please post proof that the things listed are not accounted for in the constitution, and then explain why all the social BS like welfare and healthcare, free phones, transportation, food, housing etc... are not ever included in the liberal socialism rant.

That free phone you morons are hyped about......120 minutes a month....3 hours of talking for free for a month...man those people got it made,eh?

I have to pay for mine, why should I pay for theirs?

Because thats the fee for living in a society where you can make yourself wealthy. I can tell you are a failure at life because you dont understand that simple concept.

 

[Maryland Patriot]

Daily Kos???? Really?

Are you saying none of these things exist? Did you look at the original source?

Please post proof that the list is wrong, incorrect. Thanks.

please post proof that the things listed are not accounted for in the constitution, and then explain why all the social BS like welfare and healthcare, free phones, transportation, food, housing etc... are not ever included in the liberal socialism rant.

Please stay on topic, which is not the US Constitution. The second part of your statement is not true and, actually, doesn't make much sense.

His post criticized the source instead of addressing the content.

Fact is, there is strength in numbers. Rabid RWs say they are against "socialism" even though they really have no idea what Democratic Socialism is or how it is different from Socialism.

Question for the RWs: which of the 75 things listed would you end?

It is on topic.
you are asking which constitutional functions should be ended to save money while once again forgetting to bring up the foolish waste of taxpayer funds referred to as welfare.

 

[Maryland Patriot]

Daily Kos???? Really?

Are you saying none of these things exist? Did you look at the original source?

Please post proof that the list is wrong, incorrect. Thanks.

please post proof that the things listed are not accounted for in the constitution, and then explain why all the social BS like welfare and healthcare, free phones, transportation, food, housing etc... are not ever included in the liberal socialism rant.

That free phone you morons are hyped about......120 minutes a month....3 hours of talking for free for a month...man those people got it made,eh?

I have to pay for mine, why should I pay for theirs?

Because thats the fee for living in a society where you can make yourself wealthy. I can tell you are a failure at life because you dont understand that simple concept.

I think we can all tell you are a failure at life because you have to depend on others to feed you.

 

[Asclepias]

Are you saying none of these things exist? Did you look at the original source?

Please post proof that the list is wrong, incorrect. Thanks.

please post proof that the things listed are not accounted for in the constitution, and then explain why all the social BS like welfare and healthcare, free phones, transportation, food, housing etc... are not ever included in the liberal socialism rant.

That free phone you morons are hyped about......120 minutes a month....3 hours of talking for free for a month...man those people got it made,eh?

I have to pay for mine, why should I pay for theirs?

Because thats the fee for living in a society where you can make yourself wealthy. I can tell you are a failure at life because you dont understand that simple concept.

I think we can all tell you are a failure at life because you have to depend on others to feed you.

No. I feed myself. I'm not on welfare like you told me you were. I understand that since I have the right to make as much money as possible i have to pay for those that dont understand that concept yet or cant put that concept into action.

 

[Maryland Patriot]

please post proof that the things listed are not accounted for in the constitution, and then explain why all the social BS like welfare and healthcare, free phones, transportation, food, housing etc... are not ever included in the liberal socialism rant.

That free phone you morons are hyped about......120 minutes a month....3 hours of talking for free for a month...man those people got it made,eh?

I have to pay for mine, why should I pay for theirs?

Because thats the fee for living in a society where you can make yourself wealthy. I can tell you are a failure at life because you dont understand that simple concept.

I think we can all tell you are a failure at life because you have to depend on others to feed you.

No. I feed myself. I'm not on welfare like you told me you were. I understand that since I have the right to make as much money as possible i have to pay for those that dont understand that concept yet or cant put that concept into action.

When did I tell you I was on welfare?
Please provide a link or stfu and admit that you are a lazy welfare sucking liar.
no offense mind you

 

[tigerred59]

just another BS post showing things that are for the good of all, things that fall under infrastructure or defense as described in the constitution, yet forgets to mention all of the give away programs for the lazy non productive slime bringing this country down.
Same game that's played when the liberals don't get there way with a tax increase, they mention reductions in Police, Fire, Schools, but never do they say that welfare will have to be cut back.
Same tired game.

And that slime is what? Oil companies that get socialized money for what? A congress that has done nothing since being elected getting 6 figures of your money for what? I mean, pick your fuckin battles pal or shut the fuck up!! And just for the record, try living off of welfare for a month and you tell us how grand your life is, you fool

So now its welfare if a company gets a tax break?
and if living off of other peoples pay check is so damn hard, how about you go out and earn your own money or shut the fuck up. People living off of life long welfare are getting way more than they are worth. Darwin comes to mind here.

Yes it is welfare.....the same freebee dead beats get. How is that any different from people who work, who pay no taxes and get a EIC check in the end? No difference at all.

 

[Asclepias]

That free phone you morons are hyped about......120 minutes a month....3 hours of talking for free for a month...man those people got it made,eh?

I have to pay for mine, why should I pay for theirs?

Because thats the fee for living in a society where you can make yourself wealthy. I can tell you are a failure at life because you dont understand that simple concept.

I think we can all tell you are a failure at life because you have to depend on others to feed you.

No. I feed myself. I'm not on welfare like you told me you were. I understand that since I have the right to make as much money as possible i have to pay for those that dont understand that concept yet or cant put that concept into action.

When did I tell you I was on welfare?
Please provide a link or stfu and admit that you are a lazy welfare sucking liar.
no offense mind you

The same day you assumed I depend on others to feed me. Dont get angry just explain why you dont understand that paying for people less fortunate is the fee for living in a capitalistic society?

 

[Maryland Patriot]

just another BS post showing things that are for the good of all, things that fall under infrastructure or defense as described in the constitution, yet forgets to mention all of the give away programs for the lazy non productive slime bringing this country down.
Same game that's played when the liberals don't get there way with a tax increase, they mention reductions in Police, Fire, Schools, but never do they say that welfare will have to be cut back.
Same tired game.

And that slime is what? Oil companies that get socialized money for what? A congress that has done nothing since being elected getting 6 figures of your money for what? I mean, pick your fuckin battles pal or shut the fuck up!! And just for the record, try living off of welfare for a month and you tell us how grand your life is, you fool

So now its welfare if a company gets a tax break?
and if living off of other peoples pay check is so damn hard, how about you go out and earn your own money or shut the fuck up. People living off of life long welfare are getting way more than they are worth. Darwin comes to mind here.

Yes it is welfare.....the same freebee dead beats get. How is that any different from people who work, who pay no taxes and get a EIC check in the end? No difference at all.

Well lets see. A company employs thousands of people that then pay tax, the company provides a service or product that is required for the country to function. That company, while getting a tax break, still ends up paying billions in taxes.
Now, your welfare dead beat provides no service or value to society, he produces nothing, pays nothing does nothing, yet he gets thousands of dollars from the taxpayer that he didnt earn.
If you cant see this you are an idiot.

 

[Maryland Patriot]

I have to pay for mine, why should I pay for theirs?

Because thats the fee for living in a society where you can make yourself wealthy. I can tell you are a failure at life because you dont understand that simple concept.

I think we can all tell you are a failure at life because you have to depend on others to feed you.

No. I feed myself. I'm not on welfare like you told me you were. I understand that since I have the right to make as much money as possible i have to pay for those that dont understand that concept yet or cant put that concept into action.

When did I tell you I was on welfare?
Please provide a link or stfu and admit that you are a lazy welfare sucking liar.
no offense mind you

The same day you assumed I depend on others to feed me. Dont get angry just explain why you dont understand that paying for people less fortunate is the fee for living in a capitalistic society?

So I never told you I was on welfare, you admit that you are a liar.
Good enough, now work on it. and there is a huge difference between less fortunate and lazy.

 

[Asclepias]

just another BS post showing things that are for the good of all, things that fall under infrastructure or defense as described in the constitution, yet forgets to mention all of the give away programs for the lazy non productive slime bringing this country down.
Same game that's played when the liberals don't get there way with a tax increase, they mention reductions in Police, Fire, Schools, but never do they say that welfare will have to be cut back.
Same tired game.

And that slime is what? Oil companies that get socialized money for what? A congress that has done nothing since being elected getting 6 figures of your money for what? I mean, pick your fuckin battles pal or shut the fuck up!! And just for the record, try living off of welfare for a month and you tell us how grand your life is, you fool

So now its welfare if a company gets a tax break?
and if living off of other peoples pay check is so damn hard, how about you go out and earn your own money or shut the fuck up. People living off of life long welfare are getting way more than they are worth. Darwin comes to mind here.

Yes it is welfare.....the same freebee dead beats get. How is that any different from people who work, who pay no taxes and get a EIC check in the end? No difference at all.

Well lets see. A company employs thousands of people that then pay tax, the company provides a service or product that is required for the country to function. That company, while getting a tax break, still ends up paying billions in taxes.
Now, your welfare dead beat provides no service or value to society, he produces nothing, pays nothing does nothing, yet he gets thousands of dollars from the taxpayer that he didnt earn.
If you cant see this you are an idiot.

Wait....They are paying billions in taxes but getting a tax break? Why do they need a tax break? If they are paying billions in taxes then they must be making billions in profits right?

 

[Maryland Patriot]

just another BS post showing things that are for the good of all, things that fall under infrastructure or defense as described in the constitution, yet forgets to mention all of the give away programs for the lazy non productive slime bringing this country down.
Same game that's played when the liberals don't get there way with a tax increase, they mention reductions in Police, Fire, Schools, but never do they say that welfare will have to be cut back.
Same tired game.

And that slime is what? Oil companies that get socialized money for what? A congress that has done nothing since being elected getting 6 figures of your money for what? I mean, pick your fuckin battles pal or shut the fuck up!! And just for the record, try living off of welfare for a month and you tell us how grand your life is, you fool

So now its welfare if a company gets a tax break?
and if living off of other peoples pay check is so damn hard, how about you go out and earn your own money or shut the fuck up. People living off of life long welfare are getting way more than they are worth. Darwin comes to mind here.

Yes it is welfare.....the same freebee dead beats get. How is that any different from people who work, who pay no taxes and get a EIC check in the end? No difference at all.

Well lets see. A company employs thousands of people that then pay tax, the company provides a service or product that is required for the country to function. That company, while getting a tax break, still ends up paying billions in taxes.
Now, your welfare dead beat provides no service or value to society, he produces nothing, pays nothing does nothing, yet he gets thousands of dollars from the taxpayer that he didnt earn.
If you cant see this you are an idiot.

Wait....They are paying billions in taxes but getting a tax break? Why do they need a tax break? If they are paying billions in taxes then they must be making billions in profits right?

What does their profit have to do with anything?
they pay more in taxes than you or I will ever make. Why should they be forced to give it away to people that do nothing to advance their bottom line?