So you want to label the DC protest treason insurrection or rebellion.

[Lesh]

Q. So you want to label the DC protest treason insurrection or rebellion.

A. Absolutely. Treason is the high bar, but it seems that insurrection (defined in 18 US code 2383) as, "Whoever incites, sets on foot, assists, or engages in any rebellion or insurrection against the authority of the United States or the laws thereof, or gives aid or comfort thereto, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States.

This sections includes all of those who entered the Capitol Building on Jan 6th, 2021 and are now either in custody or their photographs will be in Post Offices all across America before the end of winter.

It also includes Donald J. Trump, Donald Trump, Jr. and Eric Trump; Rudy and others who are elected officials.

Get off your high horse. There is no “law” or “authority” of any sort in the United States without the CONSTITUTION.

What thre fuck do you know Igor?

 

[Jim H - VA USA]

Q. So you want to label the DC protest treason insurrection or rebellion.

A. Absolutely. Treason is the high bar, but it seems that insurrection (defined in 18 US code 2383) as, "Whoever incites, sets on foot, assists, or engages in any rebellion or insurrection against the authority of the United States or the laws thereof, or gives aid or comfort thereto, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States.

This sections includes all of those who entered the Capitol Building on Jan 6th, 2021 and are now either in custody or their photographs will be in Post Offices all across America before the end of winter.

It also includes Donald J. Trump, Donald Trump, Jr. and Eric Trump; Rudy and others who are elected officials.

How do you feel about CHAZ/CHOP?

 

[Rye Catcher]

Q. So you want to label the DC protest treason insurrection or rebellion.

A. Absolutely. Treason is the high bar, but it seems that insurrection (defined in 18 US code 2383) as, "Whoever incites, sets on foot, assists, or engages in any rebellion or insurrection against the authority of the United States or the laws thereof, or gives aid or comfort thereto, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States.

This sections includes all of those who entered the Capitol Building on Jan 6th, 2021 and are now either in custody or their photographs will be in Post Offices all across America before the end of winter.

It also includes Donald J. Trump, Donald Trump, Jr. and Eric Trump; Rudy and others who are elected officials.

Get off your high horse. There is no “law” or “authority” of any sort in the United States without the CONSTITUTION.

I don't ride a horse, I use a RAV 4. You're goofy, COTUS authorizes in Art. I, sec 8, clause 18, "To make all Laws which shall be necessary and proper...". Maybe you ought to buy or steal a copy of The Constitution and read it before continuing to make an ass out of yourself.

It's on the Internet, along with the US Code.

 

[Care4all]

I think we should label it the same way we label the BLM and ANTIFA actions.

Precious few here are honest enough to do so.

/because they are NOT comparable.

 

[justinacolmena]

COTUS authorizes in Art. I, sec 8, clause 18, "To make all Laws which shall be necessary and proper

You left out the Second Amendment and the other articles of the Bill of Rights with all your creative rationalizations for gun control, your liberal statist constructionism, and stateside legal interpretations to ride roughshod over the common people.

 

[Chuz Life]

It’s not a matter of ‘want.’

It is a fact – settled, accepted, and beyond dispute – that the Trump-incited attack on America’s democracy was both treasonous insurrection and lawless rebellion.

Spoken in much the way that King George would have expected of one of his lemmings.

 

[Lesh]

COTUS authorizes in Art. I, sec 8, clause 18, "To make all Laws which shall be necessary and proper

You left out the Second Amendment and the other articles of the Bill of Rights with all your creative rationalizations for gun control, your liberal statist constructionism, and stateside legal interpretations to ride roughshod over the common people.

What does that world salad have to do with anything?

 

[Shelzin]

It’s not a matter of ‘want.’

It is a fact – settled, accepted, and beyond dispute – that the Trump-incited attack on America’s democracy was both treasonous insurrection and lawless rebellion.

Just curious... Was the Portland federal building attacked?

 

[9thIDdoc]

The Watts riots, sometimes referred to as the Watts Rebellion or Watts Uprising,[1] took place in the Watts neighborhood and its surrounding areas of Los Angeles from August 11 to 16, 1965.

On August 11, 1965, Marquette Frye was pulled over for reckless driving.[2][3][4] After failing a field sobriety test, officers attempted to arrest him. Marquette resisted arrest, with assistance from his mother, Rena Frye, and a physical confrontation ensued in which Marquette was struck in the face with a baton. Meanwhile, a crowd of onlookers had gathered. [2] Distorted rumors spread that the police had kicked a pregnant woman who was present at the scene. Six days of civil unrest followed, motivated in part by allegations of police abuse.[3] Nearly 14,000 members of the California Army National Guard[5] helped suppress the disturbance, which resulted in 34 deaths[6] and over $40 million in property damage.[7][8] It was the city's worst unrest until the Rodney King riots of 1992.

Riots following the MLK assassinations

the bullet that felled King on April 4 led to the worst civil unrest in our nation’s history. Everything King hoped to forestall that summer ignited in the aftermath of his death. More than 100 cities broke out in fiery riots and 46 people died. With smoke rising above the Capitol and Washington under military occupation, those who had dreamed of King’s “Promised Land” saw what may have been the darkest moments of that turbulent decade.


The 1992 Los Angeles riots, sometimes called the 1992 Los Angeles uprising,[5][6] were a series of riots and civil disturbances that occurred in Los Angeles County in April and May 1992. Unrest began in South Central Los Angeles on April 29, after a trial jury acquitted four officers of the Los Angeles Police Department (LAPD) for usage of excessive force in the arrest and beating of Rodney King, which had been videotaped and widely viewed in TV broadcasts.

The rioting took place in several areas in the Los Angeles metropolitan area, as thousands of people rioted over a six-day period following the announcement of the verdict. Widespread looting, assault, and arson occurred during the riots, which local police forces had difficulty controlling due to lack of personnel and resources. The situation in the Los Angeles area was only resolved after the California National Guard, the United States military, and several federal law enforcement agencies were deployed to assist in ending the violence and unrest.

By the time the riots ended, 63 people had been killed,[7] 2,383 had been injured, more than 12,000 had been arrested, and estimates of property damage were over $1 billion, much of which disproportionately affected Koreatown, where the bulk of rioting occurred. LAPD Chief of Police Daryl Gates, who had already announced his resignation by the time of the riots, was attributed with much of the blame for failure to de-escalate the situation and overall mismanagement.[8][9]

 

[Dogmaphobe]

/because they are NOT comparable.

Well, sure -- one of them only lasted a short time. The others went on and on and on and freaking on and cost over a billion in property damage as well as more lives.

You support one, but not the other, however.

I'm getting so sick of you fucking hypocrites.

 

[9thIDdoc]

It’s not a matter of ‘want.’

It is a fact – settled, accepted, and beyond dispute – that the Trump-incited attack on America’s democracy was both treasonous insurrection and lawless rebellion.

Then please advise me which of the rebellions and riots (if any) that I've posted here were not treasonous insurrections by your criteria. I submit that the DC protest was only an insurrection to you because it's fits your agenda to label it so for propaganda purposes..

 

[White 6]

It’s not a matter of ‘want.’

It is a fact – settled, accepted, and beyond dispute – that the Trump-incited attack on America’s democracy was both treasonous insurrection and lawless rebellion.

Just curious... Was the Portland federal building attacked?

Yep, on New years eve, with molotov cocktails and caustics, and used tools to try to gain entry, but failed to gain entry. Multiple arrests were made throughout the night, but law enforcement has not immediately disclosed how many and what for, as information is still being compiled, PPB wrote. The crowd dispersed by 2 a.m. on New Year’s Day, and officers used inert smoke and some impact munitions, according to the department.

Portland Rioters Attack Federal Courthouse With Molotovs On New Year’s Eve

A group of violent demonstrators in Portland hurled Molotovs, lit fires and tried to break into a federal courthouse hours on New Year's Eve, authorities said.

dailycaller.com

 

[9thIDdoc]

Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort. No Person shall be convicted of Treason unless on the Testimony of two Witnesses to the same overt Act, or on Confession in open Court.

Sedition is a serious felony punishable by fines and up to 20 years in prison and it refers to the act of inciting revolt or violence against a lawful authority with the goal of destroying or overthrowing it

According to Merriam-Webster, "insurrection" is the "act of revolting against civil authority or an established government." Other definitions, like that of the Cambridge Dictionary, specify the act is usually a violent one. Synonyms include "revolt" or "uprising," according to Merriam-Webster.

The DC protest was not an act of rebellion or war. Trespass they may have been guilty of but so would most of the of the people who attended protests the last couple of years. The antifa azzwipes who captured and held part of Portland should have been tried for sedition and/or insurrection but weren't. Why not? And why the apparent double standard?

 

[Shelzin]

Yep, on New years eve, with molotov cocktails and caustics, and used tools to try to gain entry, but failed to gain entry. Multiple arrests were made throughout the night, but law enforcement has not immediately disclosed how many and what for, as information is still being compiled, PPB wrote. The crowd dispersed by 2 a.m. on New Year’s Day, and officers used inert smoke and some impact munitions, according to the department.

Portland Rioters Attack Federal Courthouse With Molotovs On New Year’s Eve

A group of violent demonstrators in Portland hurled Molotovs, lit fires and tried to break into a federal courthouse hours on New Year's Eve, authorities said.

dailycaller.com

That's... One night ... yeah. Is that the same kind of thing... Or... ?

 

[White 6]

Yep, on New years eve, with molotov cocktails and caustics, and used tools to try to gain entry, but failed to gain entry. Multiple arrests were made throughout the night, but law enforcement has not immediately disclosed how many and what for, as information is still being compiled, PPB wrote. The crowd dispersed by 2 a.m. on New Year’s Day, and officers used inert smoke and some impact munitions, according to the department.

Portland Rioters Attack Federal Courthouse With Molotovs On New Year’s Eve

A group of violent demonstrators in Portland hurled Molotovs, lit fires and tried to break into a federal courthouse hours on New Year's Eve, authorities said.

dailycaller.com

That's... One night ... yeah. Is that the same kind of thing... Or... ?

Definitely wrong and unjustifiable, but not like breaking into congress in force, chanting Hang the VP (just of doing his constitutional duty) and bringing zip ties and flex cuff in case they found their target for the gallows they built out on the lawn, shitting on the floors and wiping it on the walls of the insides of our Capital. No. No, not the same.

 

[Shelzin]

Definitely wrong and unjustifiable, but not like breaking into congress in force, chanting Hang the VP (just of doing his constitutional duty) and bringing zip ties and flex cuff in case they found their target for the gallows they built out on the lawn, shitting on the floors and wiping it on the walls of the insides of our Capital. No. No, not the same.

Really? You can't build something good on hypocrisy. Hell, you can't even build something that functions as it's supposed to unless of course you WANT it to be corrupt.

I'm mean sure... It's nice that you know it's "wrong and unjustifiable"... But it doesn't change the hypocrisy of it, and all hypocrisy destroys trust.

 

[9thIDdoc]

Yep, on New years eve, with molotov cocktails and caustics, and used tools to try to gain entry, but failed to gain entry. Multiple arrests were made throughout the night, but law enforcement has not immediately disclosed how many and what for, as information is still being compiled, PPB wrote. The crowd dispersed by 2 a.m. on New Year’s Day, and officers used inert smoke and some impact munitions, according to the department.

Portland Rioters Attack Federal Courthouse With Molotovs On New Year’s Eve

A group of violent demonstrators in Portland hurled Molotovs, lit fires and tried to break into a federal courthouse hours on New Year's Eve, authorities said.

dailycaller.com

That's... One night ... yeah. Is that the same kind of thing... Or... ?

The Portland insurrectionists were way worse. they captured a part of the city and barricaded entrances allowing only those they wished in or out. They replaced the government there and ruled as they wished. The very definition of treason and insurrection.

 

[White 6]

Definitely wrong and unjustifiable, but not like breaking into congress in force, chanting Hang the VP (just of doing his constitutional duty) and bringing zip ties and flex cuff in case they found their target for the gallows they built out on the lawn, shitting on the floors and wiping it on the walls of the insides of our Capital. No. No, not the same.

Really? You can't build something good on hypocrisy. Hell, you can't even build something that functions as it's supposed to unless of course you WANT it to be corrupt.

I'm mean sure... It's nice that you know it's "wrong and unjustifiable"... But it doesn't change the hypocrisy of it, and all hypocrisy destroys trust.

Been around the world. Seen a lot. Been a certain amount of hypocrisy everywhere I have been in both civilian and government service and every country I have been to. Whatever or wherever, always knew things are not all that they seem and certainly not all that are projected. I have adjusted and not become jaded, amazingly enough. Sorry you got so jaded. Good luck to ya.

 

[Turtlesoup]

If so we are also going to have to relabel one or several doz. historical conflicts we tend to forget about.

Whiskey Rebellion, (1794), in American history, uprising that afforded the new U.S. government its first opportunity to establish federal authority by military means within state boundaries, as officials moved into western Pennsylvania to quell an uprising of settlers rebelling against the liquor tax. Alexander Hamilton, secretary of the treasury, had proposed the excise (enacted by Congress in 1791, the first national internal revenue tax) to raise money for the national debt and to assert the power of the national government. Small farmers of the backcountry distilled (and consumed) whiskey, which was easier to transport and sell than the grain that was its source. It was an informal currency, a means of livelihood, and an enlivener of a harsh existence. The distillers resisted the tax by attacking (often tarring and feathering) federal revenue officers who attempted to collect it.

Utah War AKA Mormon rebellion
In 1857–58, President James Buchanan sent U.S. forces to the Utah Territory in what became known as the Utah Expedition. The Mormons, fearful that the large U.S. military force had been sent to annihilate them and having faced persecution in other areas,[7] made preparations for defense. Though bloodshed was to be avoided, and the U.S. government also hoped that its purpose might be attained without the loss of life, both sides prepared for war. The Mormons manufactured or repaired firearms, turned scythes into bayonets, and burnished and sharpened long-unused sabres.

The confrontation between the Mormon militia, called the Nauvoo Legion, and the U.S. Army involved some destruction of property and a few brief skirmishes in what is today southwestern Wyoming, but no battles occurred between the contending military forces.

At the height of the tensions, on September 11, 1857, between 95 and 120 California-bound settlers from Arkansas, Missouri and other states, including unarmed men, women and children, were killed in remote southwestern Utah by a group of local Mormon militia.[10] They first claimed that the migrants were killed by Indians but it was proven otherwise. This event was later called the Mountain Meadows Massacre and the motives behind the incident remain unclear.[11]

The Aiken massacre took place the following month. In October 1857, Mormons arrested six Californians traveling through Utah and charged them with being spies for the U.S. Army. They were released but were later murdered and robbed of their stock and $25,000.[12][13]

Pontiac's War, also known as Pontiac's Conspiracy or Pontiac's Rebellion, was launched in 1763 by a loose confederation of American Indian tribes, primarily from the Great Lakes region, the Illinois Country, and Ohio Country who were dissatisfied with British policies in the Great Lakes region following the French and Indian War (1754–1763). Warriors from numerous tribes joined the uprising in an effort to drive British soldiers and settlers out of the region. The war is named after Odawa leader Pontiac, the most prominent of many Indian leaders in the conflict.
The war began in May 1763 when Native Americans were offended by the policies of British General Jeffery Amherst and attacked a number of British forts and settlements. Eight forts were destroyed and hundreds of colonists were killed or captured, with many more fleeing the region. Hostilities came to an end after British Army expeditions in 1764 led to peace negotiations over the next two years. The Native Americans were unable to drive away the British, but the uprising prompted the British government to modify the policies that had provoked the conflict.

TO BE CONTINUED-

Rebellion---------one for which I am sorry I missed.................

 

[ElmerMudd]

If so we are also going to have to relabel one or several doz. historical conflicts we tend to forget about.

Whiskey Rebellion, (1794), in American history, uprising that afforded the new U.S. government its first opportunity to establish federal authority by military means within state boundaries, as officials moved into western Pennsylvania to quell an uprising of settlers rebelling against the liquor tax. Alexander Hamilton, secretary of the treasury, had proposed the excise (enacted by Congress in 1791, the first national internal revenue tax) to raise money for the national debt and to assert the power of the national government. Small farmers of the backcountry distilled (and consumed) whiskey, which was easier to transport and sell than the grain that was its source. It was an informal currency, a means of livelihood, and an enlivener of a harsh existence. The distillers resisted the tax by attacking (often tarring and feathering) federal revenue officers who attempted to collect it.

Utah War AKA Mormon rebellion
In 1857–58, President James Buchanan sent U.S. forces to the Utah Territory in what became known as the Utah Expedition. The Mormons, fearful that the large U.S. military force had been sent to annihilate them and having faced persecution in other areas,[7] made preparations for defense. Though bloodshed was to be avoided, and the U.S. government also hoped that its purpose might be attained without the loss of life, both sides prepared for war. The Mormons manufactured or repaired firearms, turned scythes into bayonets, and burnished and sharpened long-unused sabres.

The confrontation between the Mormon militia, called the Nauvoo Legion, and the U.S. Army involved some destruction of property and a few brief skirmishes in what is today southwestern Wyoming, but no battles occurred between the contending military forces.

At the height of the tensions, on September 11, 1857, between 95 and 120 California-bound settlers from Arkansas, Missouri and other states, including unarmed men, women and children, were killed in remote southwestern Utah by a group of local Mormon militia.[10] They first claimed that the migrants were killed by Indians but it was proven otherwise. This event was later called the Mountain Meadows Massacre and the motives behind the incident remain unclear.[11]

The Aiken massacre took place the following month. In October 1857, Mormons arrested six Californians traveling through Utah and charged them with being spies for the U.S. Army. They were released but were later murdered and robbed of their stock and $25,000.[12][13]

Pontiac's War, also known as Pontiac's Conspiracy or Pontiac's Rebellion, was launched in 1763 by a loose confederation of American Indian tribes, primarily from the Great Lakes region, the Illinois Country, and Ohio Country who were dissatisfied with British policies in the Great Lakes region following the French and Indian War (1754–1763). Warriors from numerous tribes joined the uprising in an effort to drive British soldiers and settlers out of the region. The war is named after Odawa leader Pontiac, the most prominent of many Indian leaders in the conflict.
The war began in May 1763 when Native Americans were offended by the policies of British General Jeffery Amherst and attacked a number of British forts and settlements. Eight forts were destroyed and hundreds of colonists were killed or captured, with many more fleeing the region. Hostilities came to an end after British Army expeditions in 1764 led to peace negotiations over the next two years. The Native Americans were unable to drive away the British, but the uprising prompted the British government to modify the policies that had provoked the conflict.

TO BE CONTINUED-

Have you noticed that at the demonstrations, for your cause, includes Nazis.. Does it bother you that you are on the same side as Nazis.