Socialism-the BIGGEST plight/failure to this world, EVER.

[JakeStarkey]

OK, I am off to steward the financial committee for our church with a bit more than 1,500 members. I will caution them against socialism and statism. Thanks for a fun afternoon.

 

[(R)IGHTeous 1]

Ok, I've sufficiently humiliated JakeStarkey, destroyed him publicly here for all the board to see. His bizarre redefinitions of history, and denial of obvious common knowledge, are proof enough of that. I invite anyone else to see this by viewing this thread.

But someone has to put a stop to said trolling and spamming, hence my reporting his posts.

Also watch, the delusional weirdo is becoming obsessed with me, hence his following me around here, and responding to my posts after a second.

LOL this shit is getting to easy.

Next?

 

[(R)IGHTeous 1]

OK, I am off to steward the financial committee for our church with a bit more than 1,500 members. I will caution them against socialism and statism. Thanks for a fun afternoon.

Thank you for finally throwing up your last smokescreen to cover your humiliation, ignorance, and all round pathetic presence here.

Be a good boy and stay gon, you lower the collective IQ here too much.

 

[MaggieMae]

You mean like Papa Obama's kids.... oh nevermind


By the way, you still have no idea of how socialism is defined
(Which might explain a lot)



Too funny


You assume a direct correlation between public education and success- bad assumption

If so then Papa Obama would have sent his kids to DC public schools like Carter did

"Your capitalist system" interesting choice of words

Sure, a system that treated education as a public good and gave out vouchers

Would be free market; a better use of resources and give people more choice- you believe in choice, do you not?

Why would he have subjected his children to public schools when by the time Obama took office he had already received death threats (which is why he and the family was assigned Secret Service protection before he took the oath)?

Every President gets death threats- even Carter
He had Secret Service protection from the time they were nominated as well- standard


The real question would be why did stop vouchers for poor black children to go the same school as his kids?

Sidwell is actually a private school, not a charter school. And it has better securty. If you don't think Obama hasn't received more death threats than any other president in history, then you Google finger is indeed broken. Plus his daughters are approaching the very vulnerable age of adolescence and don't need to be subjected to the "Mean Girls" type bullying they would be sure to find in a public school.

 

[Neotrotsky]

OK, I am off to steward the financial committee for our church with a bit more than 1,500 members. I will caution them against socialism and statism. Thanks for a fun afternoon.

Have fun

I wouldn't want you to be late for your Unitarian duties

 

[shintao]

Tell us if that leader nationalized the production and means of industry, neo. I will be waiting.

Well you have to say who the leader is first
that's the way this game is played

LOL he might not even tho, JakeStarkey can't even do simple math for crying out loud, he's a spammer troll.

He needs to take medicine, as does anyone who would so crazily try to alter history to fit their laughable POV.

So you are off your meds, huh Troll? Cambodia under Poi Pot was Communist, and even when you are told the facts you ignore them and keep spouting the ridiculous kill figures. You are so broke on stupid you can't pay attention.

 

[(R)IGHTeous 1]

Well you have to say who the leader is first
that's the way this game is played

LOL he might not even tho, JakeStarkey can't even do simple math for crying out loud, he's a spammer troll.

He needs to take medicine, as does anyone who would so crazily try to alter history to fit their laughable POV.

So you are off your meds, huh Troll? Cambodia under Poi Pot was Communist, and even when you are told the facts you ignore them and keep spouting the ridiculous kill figures. You are so broke on stupid you can't pay attention.

Annnnd another lefty wacko victim for me, yay.....

Ridiculous kill figures? So Hitler DIDN'T kill 6 million? NO 65 million for Mao?

LOL that's all common knowledge, and now, so is your sad inability to do math, just like Starkey troll.

Next!

 

[Neotrotsky]

Why would he have subjected his children to public schools when by the time Obama took office he had already received death threats (which is why he and the family was assigned Secret Service protection before he took the oath)?

Every President gets death threats- even Carter
He had Secret Service protection from the time they were nominated as well- standard


The real question would be why did stop vouchers for poor black children to go the same school as his kids?

Sidwell is actually a private school, not a charter school. And it has better securty. If you don't think Obama hasn't received more death threats than any other president in history, then you Google finger is indeed broken. Plus his daughters are approaching the very vulnerable age of adolescence and don't need to be subjected to the "Mean Girls" type bullying they would be sure to find in a public school.

So you want one to believe that it was only for security reasons...
Sidwell being private has nothing to do with it

Vouchers can be used at those schools.

Again, what does Papa Obama have against poor black kids going to the same school as his kids ?

 

[MaggieMae]

MaggieMae wrote:

You are clinically a moron. I think this is one of the few times I've seen someone actually cherry pick Adolph Hitler's brain to suit his own agenda, at least on this board. The first glaring point should be what constitutes "a citizen" in this manifesto, which should be remembered as you read through all 25.

All you did was ramble on bout what constitutes a German citizen or not, you even helped my case by pointing out what else was done for the "common good"

I could further humiliate you by reminding you that Hitler, and his Germany were no Christians, as he saw himself God, and killed or jailed clergy who disagreed + oh I dunno, killing millions upon millions of Christ's people, but thanks anyway for providing further humor.

It's common knowledge that Hitler implemented those practices I mentioned, your spam doesn't change that.

The "common" good of the pure white Christian German people, you idiot. If anything, "Socialism" embraces all races, all creeds, because it's primary focus is on EQUALITY. What part of that simple definition is escaping your infinite wisdom, genius?

Read the Enabling Act of 1933 and tell me how many of those 25 points were thrown out. Your problem is that you know nothing of history. You're attempting to make a political point by alleging that events of today compare to events of the Nazi regime(s) using cherry picked words and phrases. And you're fucking nuts.

 

[Neotrotsky]

Well you have to say who the leader is first
that's the way this game is played

LOL he might not even tho, JakeStarkey can't even do simple math for crying out loud, he's a spammer troll.

He needs to take medicine, as does anyone who would so crazily try to alter history to fit their laughable POV.

So you are off your meds, huh Troll? Cambodia under Poi Pot was Communist, and even when you are told the facts you ignore them and keep spouting the ridiculous kill figures. You are so broke on stupid you can't pay attention.

Just so you know

In modern history there has never been a real Communist state. According to Marx, in a Communist state the gov't "withers away" to nothing.

There may have been states that claimed Communism as their ultimate end goal; but no state has ever gotten that far. It seems they get stuck and into all kinds of trouble with the socialist state that Marx called for in transition to Communism.

Hmm funny how that works

 

[MaggieMae]

.........That's your response........are you.......serious?

You think that just because Hitler had a different brand of national socialism, and imprisoned OBVIOUS threats to his power, or as he perceived anyway, that that somehow, magically disproves the archived facts I previously posted? The obvious far-left socialist ideals Hitler implemented?

Stalin had fellow commies jailed, and killed routinely too, OMG HE WAS REALLY A CAPITALIST! Quick call the Kremlin!

LOL wooooow, I think my work here is definitely done for the night.

Your "work"?? I do hope you realize you could be shot, according to the "manifesto" you believe in because posting on a message board wouldn't constitute "work" according thereto.

Nice to see you not arguing my point, cuz you know can't.

I pwned him, I pwned that smoke and mirrors Starskey spammer, and I'll pwn you if you keep @ this.

You're a joke with an ego as big as Limbaugh's. Carry on, fool.

Oh, and since you're a noob here, I wouldn't go accusing regulars of being "spammers," my friend. While many of us disagree politically, most are not stupid. So clean up your act or move on to some board that will appreciate your nonsense more than we do on this ADULT message board.

 

[MaggieMae]

Jake,

just because it is fun to get you all , in the words of Papa Obama, "wee-wee-ed up"

What political leader said:

"We are socialists, we are enemies of today's capitalistic economic system for the exploitation of the economically weak, with its unfair salaries, with its unseemly evaluation of a human being according to wealth and property instead of responsibility and performance, and we are all determined to destroy this system under all conditions."

You are SUCH an ignorant person. Hitler woo'd the German people by making them THINK he was one of them. Good God, man, WOULD YOU FUCKING READ SOME HISTORY????

 

[MaggieMae]

Again illiterate one, mass murders thru decades by an ideology put into practice definitely works as plight. Get back on dictionary.com dude.

Usually, the 6 million killed by Hitler and 65 million killed by Mao is COMMON KNOWLEDGE, but I forgot who I'm talkin to lol.

20 million in the Soviet Union

65 million in the People's Republic of China

1 million in Vietnam

2 million in North Korea

2 million in Cambodia

1 million in the Communist states of Eastern Europe

150,000 in Latin America

1.7 million in Africa

1.5 million in Afghanistan

10,000 deaths resulting from actions of communist parties not in power (assassinations etc)


The executions of tens of thousands of hostages and prisoners, and the murder of hundreds of thousands of rebellious workers and peasants during the Russian Revolution and Civil war from 1918 to 1922

The intentional Russian and Ukrainian famine of 1921, which caused the death of 5 million people.

The extermination and deportation of the Don Cossacks in 1920

Mao's "Great Purge" and the which exterminated 690,000 people

The deportation of 2 million so-called "kulaks" from 1930 to 1932

The 2nd Intentionally-created famine of 1932AND 1933, causing th edeaths of 4 million Ukrainians (Holodomor) and 2 million others.

The deportations of Poles, Ukrainians, Balts, Moldavians and Bessarabians from 1939 to 1941 and from 1944 to 1945

The deportation of the Volga Germans in 1941

The deportation of the Crimean Tatars in 1943

The deportation of the Chechens in 1944 and Wars against them in the 90's.

The deportation of the Ingush in 1944.

The Invasion of Afghanistan in 1979

Tianamen Square

The Invasion of Hungary in 1956 and Czechoslovakia in 1968.

So far I am at approximately 94 million deaths directly attributed to the ideals and system to whoch you Liberal Democrats ascribe. Are tyou proud of yourself for electing one of them as your President in 2008?

How Many People Did Communism Kill? Lawrence Person's BattleSwarm Blog

The pathetic irony is that IF you had bothered to actually STUDY that stuff you Googled, then posted, you would know that there IS no comparison with today's "Socialist" governments either in Europe or especially the United States.

....That wasn't why I posted that.

I POSTED THAT TO SHOW HOW MANY PEOPLE SOCIALISM, COMMUNISM, AND RELATED FAR-LEFT IDEOLOGIES HAVE KILLED.

I'm not tryna compare past socialist government, my point was simple. SAID IDEOLOGIES HAVE KILLED MORE PEOPLE THAN ANYTHING ELSE.

Stop tryna redefine my point and REEEEEEAD! I caps and bolded, can ya see it now? Or are we still illiterate?

You then proceeded to post a bunch of crap trying to justify your OP. And what the fuck is tryna? Nevermind. You're just another lazy assed idiot. Go play with the kiddies, wouldja?

 

[Neotrotsky]

I would agree the U.S. owning 20% of the 1st US Bank is a form of statism by your understanding.

Nothing in my question hints to such a thing. Perhaps you are projecting again (bad habit of yours)

Your lack of a answer, however, is all the answer we need.

Rationally extending your logic is not projection at all. Sorry if you did not see the hole in front of your walk.

Now are you suggesting that any kind of government control is statism? Do I understand you correctly.

Jake in the question restated below no lower limit is set. In fact assume them to pure in the theoretical

The question still waits for your answer
you would agree that a Socialist or a Fascist or a Communist state are all forms of Statisim?

 

[MaggieMae]

You have only humiliated yourself with your inaccurate recounting of history, your misrepresented definitions, and your outright lies.

Hitler imprisoned and killed those who disagreed with him, doofus: from communists to Christians.

Pull your head out.

Annnnd now the spammer has progressed to quote raping.

Are you DENYING that Hitler had dissidents imprisoned and killed?

LOL you're a joke.

The joke is on you, little mind. I said Hitler imprisoned from Communists to Christians. You are DENYING that I said that?

You are epic fail on this, and getting more epic with each post.

Perhaps he doesn't know what the word "dissident" means either?

 

[MaggieMae]

Annnnd now the spammer has progressed to quote raping.

Are you DENYING that Hitler had dissidents imprisoned and killed?

LOL you're a joke.

The joke is on you, little mind. I said Hitler imprisoned from Communists to Christians. You are DENYING that I said that?

You are epic fail on this, and getting more epic with each post.

Then adding words like "doofus" to insinuate that what I said was somehow stupid or false, is JUST THAT, as I already said before you that HITLER HAD EVERYONE WHO DISAGREED WITH HIM IMPRISONED AND KILLED, OBVIOUSLY INCLUDING COMMUNISTS AND CHRISTIANS. I'm getting tired of humoring your spamming, feeding the trolls, humiliating you, and so on. You offer nothing of real factuality, relevance, etc.

You have one last shot to redeem yourself before I ignore you.

Oh please put me on ignore too. PLEASE? And put the others on ignore while you're at it. You've only got one other person that supports you in your thread after all. Maybe then we'd be rid of you.

 

[(R)IGHTeous 1]

MaggieMae wrote:

The "common" good of the pure white Christian German people, you idiot. If anything, "Socialism" embraces all races, all creeds, because it's primary focus is on EQUALITY. What part of that simple definition is escaping your infinite wisdom, genius?

Annnnnd this debate is over. You've just lost any and ALL credibility. The socialist regimes of Hitler, Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot, etc were totally bout tolerance and civil rights! Yeeeea!

Sweetie, Ima tell you what I told the other wacko far lefties here. Crack. Pipe. Down.

Or you can remain toasted and actually, futilely try to argue that Hitler nationalized not 1 thing, and did nothing even remotely socialist while in power. If anything, @ the VERY LEAST, he was more lefty socialist than righty capitalist.

Or, as predictable as you'll likely be, you provide more lolz and try to argue that NONE of the regimes I just listed were actually socialist @ all, and describe your commie utopia in detail.....rewriting its definition and history to suit your crazyness.....

 

[MaggieMae]

Jake,

just because it is fun to get you all , in the words of Papa Obama, "wee-wee-ed up"

What political leader said:

"We are socialists, we are enemies of today's capitalistic economic system for the exploitation of the economically weak, with its unfair salaries, with its unseemly evaluation of a human being according to wealth and property instead of responsibility and performance, and we are all determined to destroy this system under all conditions."

THANK YOU.

You found it, I couldn't find the actual Manifesto on Google links, just the points.

Hitler did exactly that. It's beyond delusional, ignorant, and pathetic that Starkey troll, and his lot even try to argue this.

You do know you can just Google the quote itself?

 

[(R)IGHTeous 1]

The joke is on you, little mind. I said Hitler imprisoned from Communists to Christians. You are DENYING that I said that?

You are epic fail on this, and getting more epic with each post.

Then adding words like "doofus" to insinuate that what I said was somehow stupid or false, is JUST THAT, as I already said before you that HITLER HAD EVERYONE WHO DISAGREED WITH HIM IMPRISONED AND KILLED, OBVIOUSLY INCLUDING COMMUNISTS AND CHRISTIANS. I'm getting tired of humoring your spamming, feeding the trolls, humiliating you, and so on. You offer nothing of real factuality, relevance, etc.

You have one last shot to redeem yourself before I ignore you.

Oh please put me on ignore too. PLEASE? And put the others on ignore while you're at it. You've only got one other person that supports you in your thread after all.

And I aint even need him As cool a guy as he is tho. I have other friends here, @ least 6 and counting actually, but I hardly need them to handle you, Starkey, and Shintao.

You're all the typical, predictable, lefty droll.

 

[Neotrotsky]

Jake,

just because it is fun to get you all , in the words of Papa Obama, "wee-wee-ed up"

What political leader said:

"We are socialists, we are enemies of today's capitalistic economic system for the exploitation of the economically weak, with its unfair salaries, with its unseemly evaluation of a human being according to wealth and property instead of responsibility and performance, and we are all determined to destroy this system under all conditions."

You are SUCH an ignorant person. Hitler woo'd the German people by making them THINK he was one of them. Good God, man, WOULD YOU FUCKING READ SOME HISTORY????

Well the question was for Jake

I hear you. Next I will think that you can't use school vouchers at Sidwell



You assume a lot in your answer. You must be one of those that bought the "Hope and Change" hook line and sinker





Since you like to answer questions for other people


you would agree that a Socialist or a Fascist or a Communist state are all forms of Statisim?

While you are at it

You have never answered
Why Papa Obama wants to deny poor black children from going to the same schools as his children?