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Occupied Jerusalem?Did he have to get a permit from foreigners?There is a major problem with wind and solar in Palestine.
Israeli bulldozers. Israel does not want the Palestinians to have anything.
Ah, there you are.
Same old .........yawn.Everyone needs a permit
Palestinians need not apply
Palestinians have to pay Israel thousands to apply for a permit but they are virtually never issued.
My neighbor here in the Great Satan had to apply for a permit to put a garden shed on his property. It was denied because he wanted to put in a concrete floor and that requires another permit.
Another form of Genocide, I tell' ya'. .
Look it up in the Jerusalem Land Registry.
Occupied Jerusalem?Did he have to get a permit from foreigners?Ah, there you are.
Same old .........yawn.Everyone needs a permit
Palestinians need not apply
Palestinians have to pay Israel thousands to apply for a permit but they are virtually never issued.
My neighbor here in the Great Satan had to apply for a permit to put a garden shed on his property. It was denied because he wanted to put in a concrete floor and that requires another permit.
Another form of Genocide, I tell' ya'. .
Look it up in the Jerusalem Land Registry.
There is a major problem with wind and solar in Palestine.You are doing the Israeli shuffle.P F Tinmore, et al,
Nonsense.
(COMMENT)The UN Armistice Agreements gave the info on Palestinian land and international borders as of 1949.
This is absolutely - 100% - incorrect!
There were 4 Armistice Agreements. However, none of the four agreements was with any entity called Palestine. There is no cease-fire line with Israeli forces on one side and an Arab-Palestinian Force on the other.
Both the Egyptian Treaty and the Jordanian Treaty set the International permanent boundaries and dissolved the Armistice lines. Armistice Agreements are replaced by Peace Treaties.
Most Respectfully,
R
There were two separate lines. There was the armistice line between Egyptian and Israeli forces. Then there is the international border between Egypt and Palestine. The armistice line laid on top of the border (except Gaza) and since it was specifically not to be a political or territorial boundary, it did not replace or otherwise change that border.
The 1949 UN Armistice Agreement specified that that is Palestine's international border. It also says that the territory inside that border is Palestine.
Now Israel and Egypt can have a peace agreement and do whatever with the armistice line but neither has any authority over Palestine's border.
What happened to solar power?
You use any thread possible to advance your obsessional agenda.
Maybe they have wind farms?
Israeli bulldozers. Israel does not want the Palestinians to have anything.
Did he have to get a permit from foreigners?There is a major problem with wind and solar in Palestine.What happened to solar power?
You use any thread possible to advance your obsessional agenda.
Maybe they have wind farms?
Israeli bulldozers. Israel does not want the Palestinians to have anything.
Ah, there you are.
Same old .........yawn.Everyone needs a permit
Palestinians need not apply
Palestinians have to pay Israel thousands to apply for a permit but they are virtually never issued.
My neighbor here in the Great Satan had to apply for a permit to put a garden shed on his property. It was denied because he wanted to put in a concrete floor and that requires another permit.
Another form of Genocide, I tell' ya'. .
Occupied Jerusalem?Did he have to get a permit from foreigners?Ah, there you are.
Same old .........yawn.Everyone needs a permit
Palestinians need not apply
Palestinians have to pay Israel thousands to apply for a permit but they are virtually never issued.
My neighbor here in the Great Satan had to apply for a permit to put a garden shed on his property. It was denied because he wanted to put in a concrete floor and that requires another permit.
Another form of Genocide, I tell' ya'. .
Look it up in the Jerusalem Land Registry.
There is a major problem with wind and solar in Palestine.You are doing the Israeli shuffle.P F Tinmore, et al,
Nonsense.
(COMMENT)
This is absolutely - 100% - incorrect!
There were 4 Armistice Agreements. However, none of the four agreements was with any entity called Palestine. There is no cease-fire line with Israeli forces on one side and an Arab-Palestinian Force on the other.
Both the Egyptian Treaty and the Jordanian Treaty set the International permanent boundaries and dissolved the Armistice lines. Armistice Agreements are replaced by Peace Treaties.
Most Respectfully,
R
There were two separate lines. There was the armistice line between Egyptian and Israeli forces. Then there is the international border between Egypt and Palestine. The armistice line laid on top of the border (except Gaza) and since it was specifically not to be a political or territorial boundary, it did not replace or otherwise change that border.
The 1949 UN Armistice Agreement specified that that is Palestine's international border. It also says that the territory inside that border is Palestine.
Now Israel and Egypt can have a peace agreement and do whatever with the armistice line but neither has any authority over Palestine's border.
What happened to solar power?
You use any thread possible to advance your obsessional agenda.
Maybe they have wind farms?
Israeli bulldozers. Israel does not want the Palestinians to have anything.
Ah, there you are.
Same old .........yawn.Everyone needs a permit
Palestinians need not apply
Palestinians have to pay Israel thousands to apply for a permit but they are virtually never issued.
Israel has justified past demolitions by stating that the targeted homes were built without the required permits — which only Israeli authorities can issue. But Palestinians and rights groups allege that Israel routinely denies Palestinians permits so as to force them to leave desirable areas, including East Jerusalem. These Palestinians say they are essentially forced to build homes without authorization.There is a major problem with wind and solar in Palestine.You are doing the Israeli shuffle.
There were two separate lines. There was the armistice line between Egyptian and Israeli forces. Then there is the international border between Egypt and Palestine. The armistice line laid on top of the border (except Gaza) and since it was specifically not to be a political or territorial boundary, it did not replace or otherwise change that border.
The 1949 UN Armistice Agreement specified that that is Palestine's international border. It also says that the territory inside that border is Palestine.
Now Israel and Egypt can have a peace agreement and do whatever with the armistice line but neither has any authority over Palestine's border.
What happened to solar power?
You use any thread possible to advance your obsessional agenda.
Maybe they have wind farms?
Israeli bulldozers. Israel does not want the Palestinians to have anything.
Ah, there you are.
Same old .........yawn.Everyone needs a permit
Palestinians need not apply
Palestinians have to pay Israel thousands to apply for a permit but they are virtually never issued.
LINK ?
Foreigners stealing Palestinian stuff.
Israel has justified past demolitions by stating that the targeted homes were built without the required permits — which only Israeli authorities can issue. But Palestinians and rights groups allege that Israel routinely denies Palestinians permits so as to force them to leave desirable areas, including East Jerusalem. These Palestinians say they are essentially forced to build homes without authorization.There is a major problem with wind and solar in Palestine.What happened to solar power?
You use any thread possible to advance your obsessional agenda.
Maybe they have wind farms?
Israeli bulldozers. Israel does not want the Palestinians to have anything.
Ah, there you are.
Same old .........yawn.Everyone needs a permit
Palestinians need not apply
Palestinians have to pay Israel thousands to apply for a permit but they are virtually never issued.
LINK ?
“The occupation simply does not want us here. We are not welcome in our own city, Jerusalem,” Rebhi Dari, one of the recently displaced homeowners, told The Jerusalem Post.
“They are fighting our steadfastness – that is why they ask for large amounts of cash for some paper work,” he added. “Approving an application for a construction permit takes years and ends up being denied.”
UN slams Israel's demolition of Palestinian homes
Foreigners stealing Palestinian stuff.
WRONG AGAIN
They were erected illegally without permits on Jewish land, so the lands legal owners confiscated them. The foreigners under any International laws you want to name are the arab muslims.
Foreigners stealing Palestinian stuff.
WRONG AGAIN
They were erected illegally without permits on Jewish land, so the lands legal owners confiscated them. The foreigners under any International laws you want to name are the arab muslims.
Israeli talking points.
Do you have proof?
Foreigners stealing Palestinian stuff.
WRONG AGAIN
They were erected illegally without permits on Jewish land, so the lands legal owners confiscated them. The foreigners under any International laws you want to name are the arab muslims.
Israeli talking points.
Do you have proof?
(COMMENT)You are doing the Israeli shuffle.
There were two separate lines. There was the armistice line between Egyptian and Israeli forces. Then there is the international border between Egypt and Palestine. The armistice line laid on top of the border (except Gaza) and since it was specifically not to be a political or territorial boundary, it did not replace or otherwise change that border.
The 1949 UN Armistice Agreement specified that that is Palestine's international border. It also says that the territory inside that border is Palestine.
Now Israel and Egypt can have a peace agreement and do whatever with the armistice line but neither has any authority over Palestine's border.
You are dancing around the issues in my post.P F Tinmore, et al,
Again, you are 100% Wrong.
(COMMENT)You are doing the Israeli shuffle.
There were two separate lines. There was the armistice line between Egyptian and Israeli forces. Then there is the international border between Egypt and Palestine. The armistice line laid on top of the border (except Gaza) and since it was specifically not to be a political or territorial boundary, it did not replace or otherwise change that border.
The 1949 UN Armistice Agreement specified that that is Palestine's international border. It also says that the territory inside that border is Palestine.
Now Israel and Egypt can have a peace agreement and do whatever with the armistice line but neither has any authority over Palestine's border.
In the case you cited (as an example) of the Egyptian Armistice and Peace Treaty, the Peace Treaty completely replaces the Armistice.
• Egyptian-Israeli Armistice: Article XII
2. This Agreement having been negotiated and concluded in pursuance of the resolution of the Security Council of 16 November 1948 calling for the establishment of an armistice in order to eliminate the threat to the peace in Palestine and to facilitate the transition from the present truce to permanent peace in Palestine, shall remain in force until a peaceful settlement between the Parties is achieved, except as provided in paragraph 3 of this Article.
• Egyptian-Israeli Peace Treaty: Article II
The permanent boundary between Egypt and Israel in the recognized international boundary between Egypt and the former mandated territory of Palestine, as shown on the map at Annex II, without prejudice to the issue of the status of the Gaza Strip. The Parties recognize this boundary as inviolable. Each will respect the territorial integrity of the other, including their territorial waters and airspace.
There is a difference between "Palestine" (as you wrote) and the "former mandated territory of Palestine" (as written in the Peace Treaty. There is no reference or relationship to the 1949 Armistice Line --- in the --- 1979 Permanent International Boundary.
(THE BIG CHANGE)
As has been pointed out many (many) times, the 1988 UN General Assembly Resolution 43/177 specifically states:
3. Decides that, effective as of 15 December 1988, the designation "Palestine" should be used in place of the designation "Palestine Liberation Organization" in the United Nations system, without prejudice to the observer status and functions of the Palestine Liberation Organization within the United Nations system, in conformity with relevant United Nations resolutions and practice;
Most Respectfully,
R
(COMMENT)You are dancing around the issues in my post.P F Tinmore, et al,
Again, you are 100% Wrong.
(COMMENT)You are doing the Israeli shuffle.
There were two separate lines. There was the armistice line between Egyptian and Israeli forces. Then there is the international border between Egypt and Palestine. The armistice line laid on top of the border (except Gaza) and since it was specifically not to be a political or territorial boundary, it did not replace or otherwise change that border.
The 1949 UN Armistice Agreement specified that that is Palestine's international border. It also says that the territory inside that border is Palestine.
Now Israel and Egypt can have a peace agreement and do whatever with the armistice line but neither has any authority over Palestine's border.
In the case you cited (as an example) of the Egyptian Armistice and Peace Treaty, the Peace Treaty completely replaces the Armistice.
• Egyptian-Israeli Armistice: Article XII
2. This Agreement having been negotiated and concluded in pursuance of the resolution of the Security Council of 16 November 1948 calling for the establishment of an armistice in order to eliminate the threat to the peace in Palestine and to facilitate the transition from the present truce to permanent peace in Palestine, shall remain in force until a peaceful settlement between the Parties is achieved, except as provided in paragraph 3 of this Article.
• Egyptian-Israeli Peace Treaty: Article II
The permanent boundary between Egypt and Israel in the recognized international boundary between Egypt and the former mandated territory of Palestine, as shown on the map at Annex II, without prejudice to the issue of the status of the Gaza Strip. The Parties recognize this boundary as inviolable. Each will respect the territorial integrity of the other, including their territorial waters and airspace.
There is a difference between "Palestine" (as you wrote) and the "former mandated territory of Palestine" (as written in the Peace Treaty. There is no reference or relationship to the 1949 Armistice Line --- in the --- 1979 Permanent International Boundary.
(THE BIG CHANGE)
As has been pointed out many (many) times, the 1988 UN General Assembly Resolution 43/177 specifically states:
3. Decides that, effective as of 15 December 1988, the designation "Palestine" should be used in place of the designation "Palestine Liberation Organization" in the United Nations system, without prejudice to the observer status and functions of the Palestine Liberation Organization within the United Nations system, in conformity with relevant United Nations resolutions and practice;
Most Respectfully,
R
P F Tinmore, et al,
What is the issue in you post? Be clear.
(COMMENT)You are dancing around the issues in my post.P F Tinmore, et al,
Again, you are 100% Wrong.
(COMMENT)You are doing the Israeli shuffle.
There were two separate lines. There was the armistice line between Egyptian and Israeli forces. Then there is the international border between Egypt and Palestine. The armistice line laid on top of the border (except Gaza) and since it was specifically not to be a political or territorial boundary, it did not replace or otherwise change that border.
The 1949 UN Armistice Agreement specified that that is Palestine's international border. It also says that the territory inside that border is Palestine.
Now Israel and Egypt can have a peace agreement and do whatever with the armistice line but neither has any authority over Palestine's border.
In the case you cited (as an example) of the Egyptian Armistice and Peace Treaty, the Peace Treaty completely replaces the Armistice.
• Egyptian-Israeli Armistice: Article XII
2. This Agreement having been negotiated and concluded in pursuance of the resolution of the Security Council of 16 November 1948 calling for the establishment of an armistice in order to eliminate the threat to the peace in Palestine and to facilitate the transition from the present truce to permanent peace in Palestine, shall remain in force until a peaceful settlement between the Parties is achieved, except as provided in paragraph 3 of this Article.
• Egyptian-Israeli Peace Treaty: Article II
The permanent boundary between Egypt and Israel in the recognized international boundary between Egypt and the former mandated territory of Palestine, as shown on the map at Annex II, without prejudice to the issue of the status of the Gaza Strip. The Parties recognize this boundary as inviolable. Each will respect the territorial integrity of the other, including their territorial waters and airspace.
There is a difference between "Palestine" (as you wrote) and the "former mandated territory of Palestine" (as written in the Peace Treaty. There is no reference or relationship to the 1949 Armistice Line --- in the --- 1979 Permanent International Boundary.
(THE BIG CHANGE)
As has been pointed out many (many) times, the 1988 UN General Assembly Resolution 43/177 specifically states:
3. Decides that, effective as of 15 December 1988, the designation "Palestine" should be used in place of the designation "Palestine Liberation Organization" in the United Nations system, without prejudice to the observer status and functions of the Palestine Liberation Organization within the United Nations system, in conformity with relevant United Nations resolutions and practice;
Most Respectfully,
R
First, it does not say anything about "inside the border of Palestine." In 1949, the term "Palestine" was the title given to territory subject to the Mandate.
Without regard to what you interpretation of the borders or Armistice Lines are, it does NOT apply to the Hostile Arab Palestinians (HoAP) of 1949 or today. There was no agreement other than the four, none of which apply to anyone other than the signatories.
If I'm dancing, then it is because you are trying to twist the language to fit the undeserving HoAP of something they are not properly entitled.
Most Respectfully,
R
P F Tinmore, et al,
What is the issue in you post? Be clear.
(COMMENT)You are dancing around the issues in my post.P F Tinmore, et al,
Again, you are 100% Wrong.
(COMMENT)You are doing the Israeli shuffle.
There were two separate lines. There was the armistice line between Egyptian and Israeli forces. Then there is the international border between Egypt and Palestine. The armistice line laid on top of the border (except Gaza) and since it was specifically not to be a political or territorial boundary, it did not replace or otherwise change that border.
The 1949 UN Armistice Agreement specified that that is Palestine's international border. It also says that the territory inside that border is Palestine.
Now Israel and Egypt can have a peace agreement and do whatever with the armistice line but neither has any authority over Palestine's border.
In the case you cited (as an example) of the Egyptian Armistice and Peace Treaty, the Peace Treaty completely replaces the Armistice.
• Egyptian-Israeli Armistice: Article XII
2. This Agreement having been negotiated and concluded in pursuance of the resolution of the Security Council of 16 November 1948 calling for the establishment of an armistice in order to eliminate the threat to the peace in Palestine and to facilitate the transition from the present truce to permanent peace in Palestine, shall remain in force until a peaceful settlement between the Parties is achieved, except as provided in paragraph 3 of this Article.
• Egyptian-Israeli Peace Treaty: Article II
The permanent boundary between Egypt and Israel in the recognized international boundary between Egypt and the former mandated territory of Palestine, as shown on the map at Annex II, without prejudice to the issue of the status of the Gaza Strip. The Parties recognize this boundary as inviolable. Each will respect the territorial integrity of the other, including their territorial waters and airspace.
There is a difference between "Palestine" (as you wrote) and the "former mandated territory of Palestine" (as written in the Peace Treaty. There is no reference or relationship to the 1949 Armistice Line --- in the --- 1979 Permanent International Boundary.
(THE BIG CHANGE)
As has been pointed out many (many) times, the 1988 UN General Assembly Resolution 43/177 specifically states:
3. Decides that, effective as of 15 December 1988, the designation "Palestine" should be used in place of the designation "Palestine Liberation Organization" in the United Nations system, without prejudice to the observer status and functions of the Palestine Liberation Organization within the United Nations system, in conformity with relevant United Nations resolutions and practice;
Most Respectfully,
R
First, it does not say anything about "inside the border of Palestine." In 1949, the term "Palestine" was the title given to territory subject to the Mandate.
Without regard to what you interpretation of the borders or Armistice Lines are, it does NOT apply to the Hostile Arab Palestinians (HoAP) of 1949 or today. There was no agreement other than the four, none of which apply to anyone other than the signatories.
If I'm dancing, then it is because you are trying to twist the language to fit the undeserving HoAP of something they are not properly entitled.
Most Respectfully,
RFirst, it does not say anything about "inside the border of Palestine." In 1949, the term "Palestine" was the title given to territory subject to the Mandate.
Yes it does. you need to read up.
Not only that but the preamble to all four armistice agreements call for peace "in Palestine." And UN resolutions use the term "in Palestine."
But you, reading from your Israeli propaganda handbook, deny the existence of Palestine.
Nobody, they were not part of the war.P F Tinmore, et al,
What is the issue in you post? Be clear.
(COMMENT)You are dancing around the issues in my post.P F Tinmore, et al,
Again, you are 100% Wrong.
(COMMENT)You are doing the Israeli shuffle.
There were two separate lines. There was the armistice line between Egyptian and Israeli forces. Then there is the international border between Egypt and Palestine. The armistice line laid on top of the border (except Gaza) and since it was specifically not to be a political or territorial boundary, it did not replace or otherwise change that border.
The 1949 UN Armistice Agreement specified that that is Palestine's international border. It also says that the territory inside that border is Palestine.
Now Israel and Egypt can have a peace agreement and do whatever with the armistice line but neither has any authority over Palestine's border.
In the case you cited (as an example) of the Egyptian Armistice and Peace Treaty, the Peace Treaty completely replaces the Armistice.
• Egyptian-Israeli Armistice: Article XII
2. This Agreement having been negotiated and concluded in pursuance of the resolution of the Security Council of 16 November 1948 calling for the establishment of an armistice in order to eliminate the threat to the peace in Palestine and to facilitate the transition from the present truce to permanent peace in Palestine, shall remain in force until a peaceful settlement between the Parties is achieved, except as provided in paragraph 3 of this Article.
• Egyptian-Israeli Peace Treaty: Article II
The permanent boundary between Egypt and Israel in the recognized international boundary between Egypt and the former mandated territory of Palestine, as shown on the map at Annex II, without prejudice to the issue of the status of the Gaza Strip. The Parties recognize this boundary as inviolable. Each will respect the territorial integrity of the other, including their territorial waters and airspace.
There is a difference between "Palestine" (as you wrote) and the "former mandated territory of Palestine" (as written in the Peace Treaty. There is no reference or relationship to the 1949 Armistice Line --- in the --- 1979 Permanent International Boundary.
(THE BIG CHANGE)
As has been pointed out many (many) times, the 1988 UN General Assembly Resolution 43/177 specifically states:
3. Decides that, effective as of 15 December 1988, the designation "Palestine" should be used in place of the designation "Palestine Liberation Organization" in the United Nations system, without prejudice to the observer status and functions of the Palestine Liberation Organization within the United Nations system, in conformity with relevant United Nations resolutions and practice;
Most Respectfully,
R
First, it does not say anything about "inside the border of Palestine." In 1949, the term "Palestine" was the title given to territory subject to the Mandate.
Without regard to what you interpretation of the borders or Armistice Lines are, it does NOT apply to the Hostile Arab Palestinians (HoAP) of 1949 or today. There was no agreement other than the four, none of which apply to anyone other than the signatories.
If I'm dancing, then it is because you are trying to twist the language to fit the undeserving HoAP of something they are not properly entitled.
Most Respectfully,
RFirst, it does not say anything about "inside the border of Palestine." In 1949, the term "Palestine" was the title given to territory subject to the Mandate.
Yes it does. you need to read up.
Not only that but the preamble to all four armistice agreements call for peace "in Palestine." And UN resolutions use the term "in Palestine."
But you, reading from your Israeli propaganda handbook, deny the existence of Palestine.
Who signed on behalf of Palestine?
Nobody, they were not part of the war.P F Tinmore, et al,
What is the issue in you post? Be clear.
(COMMENT)You are dancing around the issues in my post.P F Tinmore, et al,
Again, you are 100% Wrong.
(COMMENT)
In the case you cited (as an example) of the Egyptian Armistice and Peace Treaty, the Peace Treaty completely replaces the Armistice.
• Egyptian-Israeli Armistice: Article XII
2. This Agreement having been negotiated and concluded in pursuance of the resolution of the Security Council of 16 November 1948 calling for the establishment of an armistice in order to eliminate the threat to the peace in Palestine and to facilitate the transition from the present truce to permanent peace in Palestine, shall remain in force until a peaceful settlement between the Parties is achieved, except as provided in paragraph 3 of this Article.
• Egyptian-Israeli Peace Treaty: Article II
The permanent boundary between Egypt and Israel in the recognized international boundary between Egypt and the former mandated territory of Palestine, as shown on the map at Annex II, without prejudice to the issue of the status of the Gaza Strip. The Parties recognize this boundary as inviolable. Each will respect the territorial integrity of the other, including their territorial waters and airspace.
There is a difference between "Palestine" (as you wrote) and the "former mandated territory of Palestine" (as written in the Peace Treaty. There is no reference or relationship to the 1949 Armistice Line --- in the --- 1979 Permanent International Boundary.
(THE BIG CHANGE)
As has been pointed out many (many) times, the 1988 UN General Assembly Resolution 43/177 specifically states:
3. Decides that, effective as of 15 December 1988, the designation "Palestine" should be used in place of the designation "Palestine Liberation Organization" in the United Nations system, without prejudice to the observer status and functions of the Palestine Liberation Organization within the United Nations system, in conformity with relevant United Nations resolutions and practice;
Most Respectfully,
R
First, it does not say anything about "inside the border of Palestine." In 1949, the term "Palestine" was the title given to territory subject to the Mandate.
Without regard to what you interpretation of the borders or Armistice Lines are, it does NOT apply to the Hostile Arab Palestinians (HoAP) of 1949 or today. There was no agreement other than the four, none of which apply to anyone other than the signatories.
If I'm dancing, then it is because you are trying to twist the language to fit the undeserving HoAP of something they are not properly entitled.
Most Respectfully,
RFirst, it does not say anything about "inside the border of Palestine." In 1949, the term "Palestine" was the title given to territory subject to the Mandate.
Yes it does. you need to read up.
Not only that but the preamble to all four armistice agreements call for peace "in Palestine." And UN resolutions use the term "in Palestine."
But you, reading from your Israeli propaganda handbook, deny the existence of Palestine.
Who signed on behalf of Palestine?