Some Americans simply LACK perspective...

[nat4900]

In the midst of the usual back-n-forth of the insults that go on in this forum, sometimes I marvel at the lack of perspective (aka education) that exists among Americans. There should NEVER be an acceptance of terrorist acts against one another, but to completely neglect the perspective that brings forth such horrible acts should also be acknowledged. For example:

a. You'll read that on 9-11, it was Muslims that attacked us....TRUE and unacceptable; but did SOME Muslims just wake up one day and decided to attack us......or is there a deeper and long-festering reason for such abject animosity?

b. We also read that in the half-century plus struggle between Israel and Palestinians, the blame for such bloodshed is due to Palestinians NOT being entitled to a sovereign Palestine because prior to the European Jews' exodus to that land, there was NO Palestine. Think for a moment on the ridiculous premise and the lack of perspective.

c. Finally, we also read of Iranians as those "evil people" that took over our embassy in '79, fund terrorism and now want a nuclear arsenal to kill Jews and Americans. Has no one ever heard of our coup d'etat on Mossadegh, the dreaded Savaak, the Shah's terrible reign, etc.?

Just a few example of our knee-jerk response to world events and the complete lack of perspective not only due to biases and prejudices, but also our lack of historical education.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

Americans are dumb as dog shit, hence the state of the place...

 

[Billy_Kinetta]

Americans are dumb as dog shit, hence the state of the place...

It seems so. Even as recently as 30 years ago there would have been a bonecrushing uprising over what the current administration and its cadre of talking monkeys have done to it.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

Americans are dumb as dog shit, hence the state of the place...

It seems so. Even as recently as 30 years ago there would have been a bonecrushing uprising over what the current administration and its cadre of talking monkeys have done to it.

30 years ago the administration allowed ketchup to be classified as a vegetable, and traded arms for hostages. This isn't new.

 

[The Rabbi]

In the midst of the usual back-n-forth of the insults that go on in this forum, sometimes I marvel at the lack of perspective (aka education) that exists among Americans. There should NEVER be an acceptance of terrorist acts against one another, but to completely neglect the perspective that brings forth such horrible acts should also be acknowledged. For example:

a. You'll read that on 9-11, it was Muslims that attacked us....TRUE and unacceptable; but did SOME Muslims just wake up one day and decided to attack us......or is there a deeper and long-festering reason for such abject animosity?

b. We also read that in the half-century plus struggle between Israel and Palestinians, the blame for such bloodshed is due to Palestinians NOT being entitled to a sovereign Palestine because prior to the European Jews' exodus to that land, there was NO Palestine. Think for a moment on the ridiculous premise and the lack of perspective.

c. Finally, we also read of Iranians as those "evil people" that took over our embassy in '79, fund terrorism and now want a nuclear arsenal to kill Jews and Americans. Has no one ever heard of our coup d'etat on Mossadegh, the dreaded Savaak, the Shah's terrible reign, etc.?

Just a few example of our knee-jerk response to world events and the complete lack of perspective not only due to biases and prejudices, but also our lack of historical education.

Yes!
Some woman got raped. Did a guy just wake up one morning and decide he would rape someone. Or did the woman entice him by what she was wearing? Or did she lead him on? Or antagonize him in some way? Isnt she just as responsible for her own rape as the rapist himself?

Oh wait, when put that way it is socially unacceptable to blame the victim. Yet that is exactly what the OP does. There is no, none, excuse for terrorism and murder. Not at all.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

In the midst of the usual back-n-forth of the insults that go on in this forum, sometimes I marvel at the lack of perspective (aka education) that exists among Americans. There should NEVER be an acceptance of terrorist acts against one another, but to completely neglect the perspective that brings forth such horrible acts should also be acknowledged. For example:

a. You'll read that on 9-11, it was Muslims that attacked us....TRUE and unacceptable; but did SOME Muslims just wake up one day and decided to attack us......or is there a deeper and long-festering reason for such abject animosity?

b. We also read that in the half-century plus struggle between Israel and Palestinians, the blame for such bloodshed is due to Palestinians NOT being entitled to a sovereign Palestine because prior to the European Jews' exodus to that land, there was NO Palestine. Think for a moment on the ridiculous premise and the lack of perspective.

c. Finally, we also read of Iranians as those "evil people" that took over our embassy in '79, fund terrorism and now want a nuclear arsenal to kill Jews and Americans. Has no one ever heard of our coup d'etat on Mossadegh, the dreaded Savaak, the Shah's terrible reign, etc.?

Just a few example of our knee-jerk response to world events and the complete lack of perspective not only due to biases and prejudices, but also our lack of historical education.

Yes!
Some woman got raped. Did a guy just wake up one morning and decide he would rape someone. Or did the woman entice him by what she was wearing? Or did she lead him on? Or antagonize him in some way? Isnt she just as responsible for her own rape as the rapist himself?

Oh wait, when put that way it is socially unacceptable to blame the victim. Yet that is exactly what the OP does. There is no, none, excuse for terrorism and murder. Not at all.

No excuse for terrorism would put the US in a very bad place, we're good at it, and not afraid to use it.

 

[Billy_Kinetta]

Americans are dumb as dog shit, hence the state of the place...

It seems so. Even as recently as 30 years ago there would have been a bonecrushing uprising over what the current administration and its cadre of talking monkeys have done to it.

30 years ago the administration allowed ketchup to be classified as a vegetable, and traded arms for hostages. This isn't new.

Perhaps, but not the point, with "as recently as" being the operative phrase.

 

[bedowin62]

In the midst of the usual back-n-forth of the insults that go on in this forum, sometimes I marvel at the lack of perspective (aka education) that exists among Americans. There should NEVER be an acceptance of terrorist acts against one another, but to completely neglect the perspective that brings forth such horrible acts should also be acknowledged. For example:

a. You'll read that on 9-11, it was Muslims that attacked us....TRUE and unacceptable; but did SOME Muslims just wake up one day and decided to attack us......or is there a deeper and long-festering reason for such abject animosity?

b. We also read that in the half-century plus struggle between Israel and Palestinians, the blame for such bloodshed is due to Palestinians NOT being entitled to a sovereign Palestine because prior to the European Jews' exodus to that land, there was NO Palestine. Think for a moment on the ridiculous premise and the lack of perspective.

c. Finally, we also read of Iranians as those "evil people" that took over our embassy in '79, fund terrorism and now want a nuclear arsenal to kill Jews and Americans. Has no one ever heard of our coup d'etat on Mossadegh, the dreaded Savaak, the Shah's terrible reign, etc.?

Just a few example of our knee-jerk response to world events and the complete lack of perspective not only due to biases and prejudices, but also our lack of historical education.

it's not a ridiculous premise leftard. there is no such thing as a Palestinian, there never has been. Jews, EVEN EUROPEAN ONES, can trace their ancestry BY DNA back to their Middle East HOMELAND to a large degree

 

[PaintMyHouse]

Americans are dumb as dog shit, hence the state of the place...

It seems so. Even as recently as 30 years ago there would have been a bonecrushing uprising over what the current administration and its cadre of talking monkeys have done to it.

30 years ago the administration allowed ketchup to be classified as a vegetable, and traded arms for hostages. This isn't new.

Perhaps, but not the point, with "as recently as" being the operative phrase.

30 years ago they were pulling shit that makes these guys look like saints, dumbass.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

In the midst of the usual back-n-forth of the insults that go on in this forum, sometimes I marvel at the lack of perspective (aka education) that exists among Americans. There should NEVER be an acceptance of terrorist acts against one another, but to completely neglect the perspective that brings forth such horrible acts should also be acknowledged. For example:

a. You'll read that on 9-11, it was Muslims that attacked us....TRUE and unacceptable; but did SOME Muslims just wake up one day and decided to attack us......or is there a deeper and long-festering reason for such abject animosity?

b. We also read that in the half-century plus struggle between Israel and Palestinians, the blame for such bloodshed is due to Palestinians NOT being entitled to a sovereign Palestine because prior to the European Jews' exodus to that land, there was NO Palestine. Think for a moment on the ridiculous premise and the lack of perspective.

c. Finally, we also read of Iranians as those "evil people" that took over our embassy in '79, fund terrorism and now want a nuclear arsenal to kill Jews and Americans. Has no one ever heard of our coup d'etat on Mossadegh, the dreaded Savaak, the Shah's terrible reign, etc.?

Just a few example of our knee-jerk response to world events and the complete lack of perspective not only due to biases and prejudices, but also our lack of historical education.

it's not a ridiculous premise leftard. there is no such thing as a Palestinian, there never has been. Jews, EVEN EUROPEAN ONES, can trace their ancestry BY DNA back to their Middle East HOMELAND to a large degree

 

[bedowin62]

In the midst of the usual back-n-forth of the insults that go on in this forum, sometimes I marvel at the lack of perspective (aka education) that exists among Americans. There should NEVER be an acceptance of terrorist acts against one another, but to completely neglect the perspective that brings forth such horrible acts should also be acknowledged. For example:

a. You'll read that on 9-11, it was Muslims that attacked us....TRUE and unacceptable; but did SOME Muslims just wake up one day and decided to attack us......or is there a deeper and long-festering reason for such abject animosity?

b. We also read that in the half-century plus struggle between Israel and Palestinians, the blame for such bloodshed is due to Palestinians NOT being entitled to a sovereign Palestine because prior to the European Jews' exodus to that land, there was NO Palestine. Think for a moment on the ridiculous premise and the lack of perspective.

c. Finally, we also read of Iranians as those "evil people" that took over our embassy in '79, fund terrorism and now want a nuclear arsenal to kill Jews and Americans. Has no one ever heard of our coup d'etat on Mossadegh, the dreaded Savaak, the Shah's terrible reign, etc.?

Just a few example of our knee-jerk response to world events and the complete lack of perspective not only due to biases and prejudices, but also our lack of historical education.

Yes!
Some woman got raped. Did a guy just wake up one morning and decide he would rape someone. Or did the woman entice him by what she was wearing? Or did she lead him on? Or antagonize him in some way? Isnt she just as responsible for her own rape as the rapist himself?

Oh wait, when put that way it is socially unacceptable to blame the victim. Yet that is exactly what the OP does. There is no, none, excuse for terrorism and murder. Not at all.

and the moron left-winger accusing others of a lack of persepctive is guilty of the same crime.
most of the left-wing nutjobs talking out of both sides of their mouths are. when they want to remind people there are reasons people fly planes full of civilians into buildings full of civilians they only accept the "long-festering reasons" they like, and reject the rest


idiots and hypocrites

 

[PaintMyHouse]

In the midst of the usual back-n-forth of the insults that go on in this forum, sometimes I marvel at the lack of perspective (aka education) that exists among Americans. There should NEVER be an acceptance of terrorist acts against one another, but to completely neglect the perspective that brings forth such horrible acts should also be acknowledged. For example:

a. You'll read that on 9-11, it was Muslims that attacked us....TRUE and unacceptable; but did SOME Muslims just wake up one day and decided to attack us......or is there a deeper and long-festering reason for such abject animosity?

b. We also read that in the half-century plus struggle between Israel and Palestinians, the blame for such bloodshed is due to Palestinians NOT being entitled to a sovereign Palestine because prior to the European Jews' exodus to that land, there was NO Palestine. Think for a moment on the ridiculous premise and the lack of perspective.

c. Finally, we also read of Iranians as those "evil people" that took over our embassy in '79, fund terrorism and now want a nuclear arsenal to kill Jews and Americans. Has no one ever heard of our coup d'etat on Mossadegh, the dreaded Savaak, the Shah's terrible reign, etc.?

Just a few example of our knee-jerk response to world events and the complete lack of perspective not only due to biases and prejudices, but also our lack of historical education.

Yes!
Some woman got raped. Did a guy just wake up one morning and decide he would rape someone. Or did the woman entice him by what she was wearing? Or did she lead him on? Or antagonize him in some way? Isnt she just as responsible for her own rape as the rapist himself?

Oh wait, when put that way it is socially unacceptable to blame the victim. Yet that is exactly what the OP does. There is no, none, excuse for terrorism and murder. Not at all.

and the moron left-winger accusing others of a lack of persepctive is guilty of the same crime.
most of the left-wing nutjobs talking out of both sides of their mouths are. when they want to remind people there are reasons people fly planes full of civilians into buildings full of civilians they only accept the "long-festering reasons" they like, and reject the rest


idiots and hypocrites

It's pretty simple, they were fucking pissed off, and religious loons, but for valid reasons. They have the right to be pissed off, but not to fly planes full of innocents into buildings full of innocents. Got it now?

 

[bedowin62]

liberals are complete idiots. every time you see a left-wing moron mention iran you know it's a given he's going tor ant about Mossadegh; and paint the Shah as the devil himself

Google the WHITE REVOLUTION; the Shah was FAR MORE MODERAT THE THE ISLAMO-FASCISTS AYATOLLAH REGIME THE IDIOT JIMMY CARTER THOUGHT WAS A GOOD IDEA FOR THE PLANET WHEN HE BACKED THEM

 

[bedowin62]

The White Revolution (Persian: انقلاب سفید‎ Enghelāb-e Sefid) was a far-reaching series of reforms in Iran launched in 1963 by Shah Mohammad Reza Pahlavi. Mohammad Reza Shah’s reform program was built especially to strengthen those classes that supported the traditional system

 

[Iceweasel]

In the midst of the usual back-n-forth of the insults that go on in this forum, sometimes I marvel at the lack of perspective (aka education) that exists among Americans. There should NEVER be an acceptance of terrorist acts against one another, but to completely neglect the perspective that brings forth such horrible acts should also be acknowledged. For example:

a. You'll read that on 9-11, it was Muslims that attacked us....TRUE and unacceptable; but did SOME Muslims just wake up one day and decided to attack us......or is there a deeper and long-festering reason for such abject animosity?

The US is preventing them from creating a massive Islamic state under one rule. We therefore stand in their way for world domination. The freedoms we have here, like gay rights, women's rights, the open sexuality, etc. is further evidence to them that we are the Great Satan. If you were educated you would have known.

b. We also read that in the half-century plus struggle between Israel and Palestinians, the blame for such bloodshed is due to Palestinians NOT being entitled to a sovereign Palestine because prior to the European Jews' exodus to that land, there was NO Palestine. Think for a moment on the ridiculous premise and the lack of perspective.

Most Palistinians immigrated from Jordan but it is an Israeli state, no matter how much you might not like it. We won't give Texas back to Mexico either and they had legal ownership, no Palistinian state ever existed. If you were educated you would have known this.

c. Finally, we also read of Iranians as those "evil people" that took over our embassy in '79, fund terrorism and now want a nuclear arsenal to kill Jews and Americans. Has no one ever heard of our coup d'etat on Mossadegh, the dreaded Savaak, the Shah's terrible reign, etc.?

Just a few example of our knee-jerk response to world events and the complete lack of perspective not only due to biases and prejudices, but also our lack of historical education.

The theocratic ruling class in Iran has proven to be deadly, wants Israel off the face of the map, they speak about it often in loving terms, have funded and supplied terrorism and militant groups to further their dictatorial theocratic purpose. They can't be trusted because they, unlike the Soviets would see it as their mission from God, those on their side would be martyrs assured their place with Allah. A little perspective helps. Buying every fucking stupid liberal lie that comes down the pike isn't education, it's called brainwashing.

 

[bedowin62]

The White Revolution consisted of 19 elements that were introduced over a period of 15 years, with the first 6 introduced in 1962 and put to a national referendum on January 26, 1963.

1. Land Reforms Program and Abolishing "Feudalism": The government bought the land from the feudal land lords at what was considered to be a fair price and sold it to the peasants at 30% below the market value, with the loan being payable over 25 years at very low interest rates. This made it possible for 1.5 million peasant families, who had once been little more than slaves, to own the lands that they had been cultivating all their lives. Given that the average size of a peasant family was 5, the land reforms program brought freedom to approximately 9 million people, or 40% of Iran's population.
2. Nationalization of Forests and Pasturelands: Many measures were introduced, not only to protect the national resources and stop the destruction of forests and pasturelands, but also to further develop and cultivate them. More than 9 million trees were planted in 26 regions, creating 70,000 acres (280 km²) of "green belts" around cities and on the borders of the major highways.
3. Privatization of the Government Owned Enterprises, selling shares in manufacturing plants and factories to the public and the old feudal lords, thus creating a whole new class of factory owners who could now help to industrialize the country.
4. Profit Sharing for industrial workers in private sector enterprises, giving the factory workers and employees 20% share of the net profits of the places where they worked and securing bonuses based on higher productivity or reductions in costs.
5. Extending the Right to Vote to Women, who previously did not enjoy suffrage. This measure was criticized by some of the clergy.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

The White Revolution (Persian: انقلاب سفید‎ Enghelāb-e Sefid) was a far-reaching series of reforms in Iran launched in 1963 by Shah Mohammad Reza Pahlavi. Mohammad Reza Shah’s reform program was built especially to strengthen those classes that supported the traditional system

Our puppet failed when Carter stopped funding his police state. It's not hard to understand, for most.

 

[Carla_Danger]

Americans are dumb as dog shit, hence the state of the place...

It seems so. Even as recently as 30 years ago there would have been a bonecrushing uprising over what the current administration and its cadre of talking monkeys have done to it.

Right. All of our problems started with this administration. Idiot.

 

[bedowin62]

1. Formation of the Literacy Corps, so that those who had a high school diploma and were required to serve their country as soldiers could do so by fighting illiteracy in the villages. In 1963 approximately 2/3 of the population was illiterate, with 1/3 found mainly in the capital city of Tehran.
2. Formation of the Health Corps to extend public health care throughout the villages and rural regions of Iran. In 3 years, almost 4,500 medical groups were trained; nearly 10 million cases were treated by the Corps.
3. Formation of the Reconstruction and Development Corps to teach the villagers the modern methods and techniques of farming and keeping livestock. Agricultural production between 1964 and 1970 increased by 80% in tonnage and 67% in value.
4. Formation of the Houses of Equity where 5 village elders would be elected by the villagers, for a period of 3 years, to act as arbitrators in order to help settle minor offences and disputes. By 1977 there were 10,358 Houses of Equity serving over 10 million people living in over 19,000 villages across the country.
5. Nationalization of all Water Resources, introduction of projects and policies in order to conserve and benefit from Iran's limited water resources. Many dams were constructed and five more were under construction in 1978. It was as a result of these measures that the area of land under irrigation increased from 2 million acres (8,000 km²), in 1968, to 5.6 million in 1977.
6. Urban and Rural Modernization and Reconstruction with the help of the Reconstruction and Development Corps. Building of public baths, schools and libraries; installing water pumps and power generators for running water and electricity.
7. Didactic Reforms that improved the quality of education by diversifying the curriculum in order to adapt to the necessities of life in the modern world.
8. Workers' Right to Own Shares in the Industrial Complexes where they worked by turning industrial units, with 5 years history and over, into public companies, where up to 99% of the shares in the state-owned enterprises and 49% of the shares of the private companies would be offered for sale to the workers of the establishment at first and then to the general public.
9. Price Stabilization and campaign against unreasonable profiteering (1975). Owners of factories and large chain stores were heavily fined, with some being imprisoned and other's licenses being revoked. Sanctions were imposed on multi-national foreign companies and tons of merchandise stored for speculative purposes were confiscated and sold to consumers at fixed prices.
10. Free and Compulsory Education and a daily free meal for all children from kindergarten to 14 years of age. In 1978, 25% of Iranians were enrolled in public schools alone. In that same year there were 185,000 students of both sexes studying in Iran's universities. In addition to the above there were over 100,000 students pursuing their studies abroad, of which 50,000 were enrolled in colleges and universities in the United States.
11. Free Food for Needy Mothers and for all newborn babies up to the age of two.
12. Introduction of Social Security and National Insurance for all Iranians. The National Insurance system provided for up to 100% of the wages during retirement.
13. Stable and Reasonable Cost of Renting or Buying of Residential Properties (1977). Controls were placed on land prices and various forms of land speculation.
14. Introduction of Measures to Fight against Corruption within the bureaucracy. The Imperial Inspection Commission was founded, consisting of representatives from administrative bodies and people of proven integrity.

 

[Compost]

Uh huh. Outrageous lack of perspective. Stupid Americans! How dare we be annoyed when terrorists attack us.

Bad stuff happened to other people that upset the terrorists. So they lashed out! They are misunderstood victims.

Let's invite them to come live in our country!