Some Trump records taken to Mar-a-Lago clearly marked as classified and ‘TOP SECRET'

[rightwinger]

Exactly. He's free to destroy anything he wants to and claim he wiped the servers down with a cloth. The acceptable standard is 30,000. Anything up to that is ignored. If anyone complains, he can just say he didn't know it was classified and couldn't be expected to know.

Hillary’s emails were not marked

If Trumps documents are stamped TOP SECRET, he has some sprain’ not do

 

[hadit]

Hillary’s emails were not marked

If Trumps documents are stamped TOP SECRET, he has some sprain’ not do

She was trained to recognize classified material and was responsible to handle them correctly. TRUMP! can destroy the paper copies with impunity now that the Hillary standard is in place and claim he never saw the electronic copies. You know how you guys are always saying he never reads anything.

 

[iamwhatiseem]

They don't care. Any rule or law he breaks that furthers their agenda is A-OK with them.

That's how it is when you've been told you're "at war" with "evil". Anything goes.

Oh STFU... Presidents as well as a flurry of other high office folks have misused "Top Secret" documents for 100 years. I very much doubt a single President since Washington hasn't taken "secret" documents out of the White House.
So much so that Obama tried to dramatically lower what constitutes a document "top secret"... because he found it impossible and ridiculous to keep track of what is and what isn't a secret. Nearlly 700,000 federal employees can make a document "top secret"... with nearly 2,000,000 people having access to them.
More than likely, these documents are tantamount to everyday documents that constantly get marked "top secret".
But make no mistake about it. Biden's team will sure as hell be looking hard to find something they (and you) can rail about.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

WTF, where the hell do you people get your information? Those records are owned by the American public. Yeah, he has access to them, but so do all of us. Can I go to his house and peruse the records he took? Damn, the IQ level of a Trump supporter has got to be close to the moron level.

Not true in any way, shape or form!

 

[jbrownson0831]

Not true in any way, shape or form!

Tell Winston no, he can't go to his house because he can't afford the gas to drive there. Worry about the destruction of the US going on now and stop deflecting.

 

[dudmuck]

She was trained to recognize classified material and was responsible to handle them correctly. TRUMP! can destroy the paper copies with impunity now that the Hillary standard is in place and claim he never saw the electronic copies. You know how you guys are always saying he never reads anything.

its intent vs carelessness.
then, obstruction of justice. did hillary ever obstruct?

 

[marvin martian]

Wow, it just keeps getting deeper and deeper. What do you think?

I think you might be the biggest dupe on the board.

LOL

 

[alang1216]

There is no process, he can simply say it.

Your ignorance of the topic is obvious. There is a process to classify and declassify. The President has the authority to declassify but the procedure has to be followed, including changing the classification markings on the document.

With that said, how do we know he didn't? There literally is no rule against the President taking classified material to his home office.

Actually there is are laws that cover such things and, at least until Trump, the President was not above the law.

and frankly from the party that didn't mind the Obama admin allowing classified material on some third party hard drive, in somebodies closet...it's hard to take you seriously on this issue.

Again, your ignorance is apparent. Hillary didn't have classified documents at home, only emails she wrote that may have contained classified information.

 

[struth]

Your ignorance of the topic is obvious. There is a process to classify and declassify. The President has the authority to declassify but the procedure has to be followed, including changing the classification markings on the document.


Actually there is are laws that cover such things and, at least until Trump, the President was not above the law.


Again, your ignorance is apparent. Hillary didn't have classified documents at home, only emails she wrote that may have contained classified information.

It's declassified the minute he says it is, there certainly is a process to make sure it's known down the line.

It doesn't have to have the stamp removed, likewise it doesn't need stamp to be classified.

There are laws as it regards to people besides the President.

um...you literally contradicted yourself...she certainly had classified material on her email server...you are right it wasn't even at her home, it was with some third party

Statement by FBI Director James B. Comey on the Investigation of Secretary Hillary Clinton’s Use of a Personal E-Mail System — FBI

Director Comey's statement to the press on the FBI’s investigation of Secretary Clinton’s use of a personal e-mail system during her time as Secretary of State.

www.fbi.gov

"From the group of 30,000 e-mails returned to the State Department, 110 e-mails in 52 e-mail chains have been determined by the owning agency to contain classified information at the time they were sent or received. Eight of those chains contained information that was Top Secret at the time they were sent; 36 chains contained Secret information at the time; and eight contained Confidential information, which is the lowest level of classification. Separate from those, about 2,000 additional e-mails were “up-classified” to make them Confidential; the information in those had not been classified at the time the e-mails were sent."

"The FBI also discovered several thousand work-related e-mails that were not in the group of 30,000 that were returned by Secretary Clinton to State in 2014. We found those additional e-mails in a variety of ways. Some had been deleted over the years and we found traces of them on devices that supported or were connected to the private e-mail domain. Others we found by reviewing the archived government e-mail accounts of people who had been government employees at the same time as Secretary Clinton, including high-ranking officials at other agencies, people with whom a Secretary of State might naturally correspond.

This helped us recover work-related e-mails that were not among the 30,000 produced to State. Still others we recovered from the laborious review of the millions of e-mail fragments dumped into the slack space of the server decommissioned in 2013.

With respect to the thousands of e-mails we found that were not among those produced to State, agencies have concluded that three of those were classified at the time they were sent or received, one at the Secret level and two at the Confidential level. "

"
For example, seven e-mail chains concern matters that were classified at the Top Secret/Special Access Program level when they were sent and received. These chains involved Secretary Clinton both sending e-mails about those matters and receiving e-mails from others about the same matters. There is evidence to support a conclusion that any reasonable person in Secretary Clinton’s position, or in the position of those government employees with whom she was corresponding about these matters, should have known that an unclassified system was no place for that conversation. In addition to this highly sensitive information, we also found information that was properly classified as Secret by the U.S. Intelligence Community at the time it was discussed on e-mail (that is, excluding the later “up-classified” e-mails).

None of these e-mails should have been on any kind of unclassified system, but their presence is especially concerning because all of these e-mails were housed on unclassified personal servers not even supported by full-time security staff, like those found at Departments and Agencies of the U.S. Government—or even with a commercial service like Gmail."

- FBI Director

 

[struth]

Hillary’s emails were not marked

If Trumps documents are stamped TOP SECRET, he has some sprain’ not do

Incorrect, many were marked.

and no he doesn't...he has clearance to have them, and moreover, could declassify them at will

 

[alang1216]

It's declassified the minute he says it is, there certainly is a process to make sure it's known down the line.

The President is not the only person with authority to declassify material. The Sec of State also has that authority.

It doesn't have to have the stamp removed, likewise it doesn't need stamp to be classified.

How would someone know an item is classified or not without a "stamp"?

um...you literally contradicted yourself...she certainly had classified material on her email server...you are right it wasn't even at her home, it was with some third party

If I included some information in this post that was later determined to be classified would you know? If I didn't get it from a classified document, would I know?

 

[hadit]

its intent vs carelessness.
then, obstruction of justice. did hillary ever obstruct?

"Losing" the emails was, even if she wasn't charged with it. And since when has mishandling classified information been excused on the grounds of negligence?

 

[bodecea]

He should have had them on a homebrewed server in his basement and you folks would be cheering him.

 

[Foolardi]

Obama simply said it was ok...so you should be totally cool with that...

Depends on what the meaning of " Is " Is.
How about the word " ok ".
It was created as if in jest.Instead of meaning
"All Correct " A writer using pen name { Artemus Ward }
created use of " ok " intended to mean " Oll Korrect ".
Back in the day there were shortened versions of
as in NG { ' no go ' } and SP { ' small potatoes ' }.
BTW does anyone know why Obama was Harvard's
First Black President of the Harvard Law Review.
As President he never wrote a Law review.When asked he said he was too busy editing others law reviews.
Sounds like a quickie cop out.Obama also none too
big on Cops.If the name " Skip " Gates jr. holds any
meaning.

 

[Biff_Poindexter]

Depends on what the meaning of " Is " Is.
How about the word " ok ".
It was created as if in jest.Instead of meaning
"All Correct " A writer using pen name { Artemus Ward }
created use of " ok " intended to mean " Oll Korrect ".
Back in the day there were shortened versions of
as in NG { ' no go ' } and SP { ' small potatoes ' }.
BTW does anyone know why Obama was Harvard's
First Black President of the Harvard Law Review.
As President he never wrote a Law review.When asked he said he was too busy editing others law reviews.
Sounds like a quickie cop out.Obama also none too
big on Cops.If the name " Skip " Gates jr. holds any
meaning.

How was Obama not too big on cops if his VP was the same guy who wrote the 94 Crime bill??

You remember that talking point right? It was the talking point you morons used when you pretended to care about criminal justice reform..

Thanks for confirming that yall were always full of shit....

 

[Lastamender]

How was Obama not too big on cops if his VP was the same guy who wrote the 94 Crime bill??

You remember that talking point right? It was the talking point you morons used when you pretended to care about criminal justice reform..

Thanks for confirming that yall were always full of shit....

Trump had a criminal reform bill passed. Goldfish memory is a bitch.

 

[Biff_Poindexter]

It's declassified the minute he says it is, there certainly is a process to make sure it's known down the line.

It doesn't have to have the stamp removed, likewise it doesn't need stamp to be classified.

There are laws as it regards to people besides the President.

um...you literally contradicted yourself...she certainly had classified material on her email server...you are right it wasn't even at her home, it was with some third party

Statement by FBI Director James B. Comey on the Investigation of Secretary Hillary Clinton’s Use of a Personal E-Mail System — FBI

Director Comey's statement to the press on the FBI’s investigation of Secretary Clinton’s use of a personal e-mail system during her time as Secretary of State.

www.fbi.gov

"From the group of 30,000 e-mails returned to the State Department, 110 e-mails in 52 e-mail chains have been determined by the owning agency to contain classified information at the time they were sent or received. Eight of those chains contained information that was Top Secret at the time they were sent; 36 chains contained Secret information at the time; and eight contained Confidential information, which is the lowest level of classification. Separate from those, about 2,000 additional e-mails were “up-classified” to make them Confidential; the information in those had not been classified at the time the e-mails were sent."

"The FBI also discovered several thousand work-related e-mails that were not in the group of 30,000 that were returned by Secretary Clinton to State in 2014. We found those additional e-mails in a variety of ways. Some had been deleted over the years and we found traces of them on devices that supported or were connected to the private e-mail domain. Others we found by reviewing the archived government e-mail accounts of people who had been government employees at the same time as Secretary Clinton, including high-ranking officials at other agencies, people with whom a Secretary of State might naturally correspond.

This helped us recover work-related e-mails that were not among the 30,000 produced to State. Still others we recovered from the laborious review of the millions of e-mail fragments dumped into the slack space of the server decommissioned in 2013.

With respect to the thousands of e-mails we found that were not among those produced to State, agencies have concluded that three of those were classified at the time they were sent or received, one at the Secret level and two at the Confidential level. "

"
For example, seven e-mail chains concern matters that were classified at the Top Secret/Special Access Program level when they were sent and received. These chains involved Secretary Clinton both sending e-mails about those matters and receiving e-mails from others about the same matters. There is evidence to support a conclusion that any reasonable person in Secretary Clinton’s position, or in the position of those government employees with whom she was corresponding about these matters, should have known that an unclassified system was no place for that conversation. In addition to this highly sensitive information, we also found information that was properly classified as Secret by the U.S. Intelligence Community at the time it was discussed on e-mail (that is, excluding the later “up-classified” e-mails).

None of these e-mails should have been on any kind of unclassified system, but their presence is especially concerning because all of these e-mails were housed on unclassified personal servers not even supported by full-time security staff, like those found at Departments and Agencies of the U.S. Government—or even with a commercial service like Gmail."

- FBI Director

Just admit that you would condone anything your cult leader does as long as you can gish gallop and deflect your way around by trying to claim "but but but the Democrats do it too!!"

Which is funny...because your cult leader campaigned on not being "like the Democrats" -- in fact, he claimed he wasn't a "politician" at all...

But here you are, using the defense of "all of the politicians do it"

Yall are clowns

 

[Biff_Poindexter]

Trump had a criminal reform bill passed. Goldfish memory is a bitch.

Yea, Obama had one too...your point??



And by the way, the reform bill Trump signed was already written and ready to pass before Trump got into office...guess who blocked that bill??

so-called Conservatives


"For years, Congress had attempted to pass criminal justice reform legislation, such as the Sentencing Reform and Corrections Act (SRCA) introduced in 2015 by Senators Chuck Grassley (R-Iowa) and Dick Durbin (D-Ill.). But the SRCA failed to pass in 2016 despite overwhelming bipartisan support, thanks to opposition from Sen. Tom Cotton (R-Ark.) and then-Senator Jeff Sessions (R-Ala.)."

Then when they realized criminal justice reform would be a winning issue and go to dispel talk that Trump was a racist....it passed....guess who still didn't oppose it?? Democrats....

Guess who were the folks who wrote the earlier versions of that reform bill?? Democrats...

Yall are clowns....

 

[Hutch Starskey]

Some of the White House documents that Donald Trump improperly took to his Mar-a-Lago residence were clearly marked as classified, including documents at the “top secret” level, according to two people familiar with the matter.

The existence of clearly marked classified documents in the trove — which has not previously been reported — is likely to intensify the legal pressure that Trump or his staffers could face, and raises new questions about why the materials were taken out of the White House.

Some Trump records taken to Mar-a-Lago clearly marked as classified, including documents at ‘top secret’ level​

Wow, it just keeps getting deeper and deeper. What do you think?

But her emails!

 

[daveman]

I know Trump and his stupid ass followers often chanted "lock her up" for HIllary using a private email service to store official documents. But I also know HIllary was never president, nor was she subject to the provisions of the Presidential Records Act. Blindly supporting him here, and making that chant back then, makes you guys look amazingly stupid, let alone hypocritical.


WTF? Are you flippin kidding me, you couldn't be more delusional.

Oh, so you can only violate classified documents laws if you're President?

That's an interesting spin.