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They were right by saying it isn't Constitutional under the Commerce Clause, and they are right that it is a tax and therefor is constitutional..
They were right by saying it isn't Constitutional under the Commerce Clause, and they are right that it is a tax and therefor is constitutional.
Don't get me wrong, Obamacare is a BAD bill and will ruin the economy and healthcare, but the damage was done when we elected obama as POTUS and not when the justices correctly enterpreted the Constitution.
No WE fuckikng didn't elect obama, you may have but WE didn't.
We the people of the United States of America
elected Barack Hussein Obama II
to the office of the Presidency of the United States of America
I personally did not vote for him, but I will this time around.
They were right by saying it isn't Constitutional under the Commerce Clause, and they are right that it is a tax and therefor is constitutional.
Don't get me wrong, Obamacare is a BAD bill and will ruin the economy and healthcare, but the damage was done when we elected obama as POTUS and not when the justices correctly enterpreted the Constitution.
well, I guess if you agree with judges re writing legislation to fit their ruling we'll go with that. shades of Kagen.
They were right by saying it isn't Constitutional under the Commerce Clause, and they are right that it is a tax and therefor is constitutional.
Don't get me wrong, Obamacare is a BAD bill and will ruin the economy and healthcare, but the damage was done when we elected obama as POTUS and not when the justices correctly enterpreted the Constitution.
They were right by saying it isn't Constitutional under the Commerce Clause, and they are right that it is a tax and therefor is constitutional.
Don't get me wrong, Obamacare is a BAD bill and will ruin the economy and healthcare, but the damage was done when we elected obama as POTUS and not when the justices correctly enterpreted the Constitution.
No WE fuckikng didn't elect obama, you may have but WE didn't.
WE as a country did. I think you know that.
(I voted for McCain)
NO! That's not correct.
Roberts had to rewrite the statute to call it a tax before allowing it.
He agreed with the oral arguments of the DOJ who, being very concerned that the Commerce Clause argument would be declared unconstitutional, emphatically stated to the court that the "mandate penalty" was a tax and therefore constitutional.
Nowhere in the bill itself was this mandate called anything but a penalty. The DOJ defined it as a tax.
They were right by saying it isn't Constitutional under the Commerce Clause, and they are right that it is a tax and therefor is constitutional.
Don't get me wrong, Obamacare is a BAD bill and will ruin the economy and healthcare, but the damage was done when we elected obama as POTUS and not when the justices correctly enterpreted the Constitution.
That's pretty much what Roberts said. If you want to change the bill, elect a new president, congress and senate.
The most troubling thing about this ruling is the precendent it sets with an unlimited ability to force anyone into making purchases that they do not want to make. Using this case, there is simply nothing that the government cannot do. Americans are now basically slaves to the government. In exchange, just like slaves, our care has been entrusted to the masters.
The administration and the democrats denied it was a tax. They denied it vehemently. They said in no uncertain terms it was not a tax. The statute does not call it a tax.
Roberts had to rewrite the statute to call it a tax before allowing it.
That is no way to run a court.
It doesn't matter what those idiots call it. The question for the SCOTUS is only wether it's constitutional or not.
No, it matters a lot. If it's a tax then Congress maybe has that power. But the case could not have been brought.
If it's not a tax, then they have no power to implement such a thing.
The Dems swore it was not a tax. The legislation does not call it a tax. How can Roberts invent things in a bill and then pass judgment on it?
They were right by saying it isn't Constitutional under the Commerce Clause, and they are right that it is a tax and therefor is constitutional.
Don't get me wrong, Obamacare is a BAD bill and will ruin the economy and healthcare, but the damage was done when we elected obama as POTUS and not when the justices correctly enterpreted the Constitution.
well, I guess if you agree with judges re writing legislation to fit their ruling we'll go with that. shades of Kagen.
Are you saying that the judges re-wrote the bill? Can you show me proof of that?
Roberts is correct about one thing...it is not the SCOTUS responsibility to protect voters from the results of electing idiots.
We've got idiots in control of the White House and Congress. That is the fault of the voting public.
Things will change in November. We'll have another group of idiots in control.
They were right by saying it isn't Constitutional under the Commerce Clause, and they are right that it is a tax and therefor is constitutional.
Don't get me wrong, Obamacare is a BAD bill and will ruin the economy and healthcare, but the damage was done when we elected obama as POTUS and not when the justices correctly enterpreted the Constitution.
They were right by saying it isn't Constitutional under the Commerce Clause, and they are right that it is a tax and therefor is constitutional.
Don't get me wrong, Obamacare is a BAD bill and will ruin the economy and healthcare, but the damage was done when we elected obama as POTUS and not when the justices correctly enterpreted the Constitution.
It it was a tax, then the court should have rejected the case and said come back when the tax goes into effect, right?
They were right by saying it isn't Constitutional under the Commerce Clause, and they are right that it is a tax and therefor is constitutional.
Don't get me wrong, Obamacare is a BAD bill and will ruin the economy and healthcare, but the damage was done when we elected obama as POTUS and not when the justices correctly enterpreted the Constitution.
That's pretty much what Roberts said. If you want to change the bill, elect a new president, congress and senate.
The most troubling thing about this ruling is the precendent it sets with an unlimited ability to force anyone into making purchases that they do not want to make. Using this case, there is simply nothing that the government cannot do. Americans are now basically slaves to the government. In exchange, just like slaves, our care has been entrusted to the masters.
The administration and the democrats denied it was a tax. They denied it vehemently. They said in no uncertain terms it was not a tax. The statute does not call it a tax.
Roberts had to rewrite the statute to call it a tax before allowing it.
That is no way to run a court.
Obama's Solicitor General and others insisted they get to argue it as a tax. So bwahahaha!
How they argued it is a matter of legal strategy. No one lied.
No WE fuckikng didn't elect obama, you may have but WE didn't.
WE as a country did. I think you know that.
(I voted for McCain)
NO! You as half a country did. the rest of us DID NOT
The administration and the democrats denied it was a tax. They denied it vehemently. They said in no uncertain terms it was not a tax. The statute does not call it a tax.
Roberts had to rewrite the statute to call it a tax before allowing it.
That is no way to run a court.
It doesn't matter what those idiots call it. The question for the SCOTUS is only wether it's constitutional or not.
No, it matters a lot. If it's a tax then Congress maybe has that power. But the case could not have been brought.
If it's not a tax, then they have no power to implement such a thing.
The Dems swore it was not a tax. The legislation does not call it a tax. How can Roberts invent things in a bill and then pass judgment on it?