Students Demand Acknowledgement of Robert E. Lee's 'Racist and Dishonorable Conduct'

[freedombecki]

Lee was on the wrong side of American history, just like every other Confederate fighting to retain their slaves.

It's too bad you failed to notice that the Confederates were being slammed in Congress who taxed exports on products from the south so they could stifle their profits with bargain prices for their own constituents to the demise of the south. The South thought it was fighting economic slavery imposed on them by the North. The North was told it was fighting for human right in order to gain cheap cotton prices for the mills in the North.

Each was not hearing the other, and winner-takes-all attitudes are poor healing grounds for an embattled nation.

That said, Lee sided with his family, his state, and his fellow southerners. He really did not want to go to war, but he felt the unfairness to businesses in the south was a little over the top, and his constituents twisted his arm.

Can you blame a man for being loyal?

If so, can you blame a thief in Congress screwing the Treasury packed with dollars from Middle Class taxpayers for being loyal to a few supporters who do not fall into the Middle Class ranks?

It's a game of Tiddlywinks. The chips fall hard when government is used like a game of chance, regardless of whose side.

*sigh*

As for General Lee, why not just beat any old dead horse to gain rapport with people who might not notice you if you ran on a platform that actually spoke to today's issues. That would be the badly misnamed "Affordable" Health Care Act, using political influence to impose traffic inconveniences on masses of people who annoy you, and tolerance of truly deleterious politics of the extremes in a nation of people who have overcome generations of unrest to deliver fairness in the world to people who don't have any.

Please spare me the white trash sympathy. No real human would ever fight to defend slavers, so yes, I can blame every Confederate for being "loyal" to slavery. They lacked the vision to see the world any other way and that is why they bore arms against their fellow humans. I say the same thing about anyone involved in human trafficking in the 20th and 21st centuries, as well. Slavery is wrong, no matter what.

If you want fairness, here it is:

This was what most slaves were owned for, not cotton. It was a job called "breaking". Long considered "one of the hardest jobs known to mankind", so obviously fat lazy stupid racist inbred Southern white trash weren't going to do it. Breaking involved threshing handfuls of hemp stalks across a grate while simultaneously slamming a heavy bar down on the hard outer stalks, to break the stalks and remove the fibers which were essential to the military on both sides. You can see this job in the 1942 USDA film, Hemp For Victory.

What this will do today is rearrange every single aspect of the global market in favor of the working poor because the task of breaking has been automated since 1917, making the need for cheap human labor obsolete. But since 1937, minus the three years during WWII when Cannabis once again saved America for freedom and democracy, this resource has been illegal and our society has been dependent on monopolized natural resources. Cannabis cannot be monopolized because anyone can grow it, from massive farms to homeless veterans living under bridges. Everyone's hemp is the same when grown for biomass.

Do you want energy independence? Here it is. Do you want affordable natural medicine? Here it is. Do you want inexpensive healthy food? Here it is. Do you want lower unemployment in every state? Here it is. Do you want to replace foreign imports? Here it is. Do you want to support our military? This has always been it.

Producer of Marihuana.

Are you? In my state, mary Jane is a Schedule I substance, which means that it has a high potential for abuse and no generally recognized medical value.

But lucky you, uneducated people are dying to try it.

 

[Intense]

Republicans are so back and forth on Lincoln. First he's a great Republican hero who ended slavery and then he's a white supremacist who wanted to ship all the slaves back to Africa. It demonstrates why it's a mistake for right wingers to teach history.

Republicans who love America acknowledge Lincoln's greatness while admitting his flaws.

No good Pub approves the completely far right reactionary and libertarian and anarchist propaganda.

You can't equate Eisenhower Republicans with the Teanuts of today. Those Republicans started NASA. Today's want to teach the magical controversy. Those Republicans built the interstate highway system, today's apologize to BP because Americans had the nerve to get mad at what BP did to our Gulf. Those Republicans pushed for expanded education, today's don't want to teach critical thinking because they are afraid their children won't listen to them and follow their propaganda. It's a completely different group. Those Republicans loved the country, today's want to bring it down.

Thanks for the reminder to change the batteries on all Carbon Monoxide detectors, ... no, really, CO can and does cause brain damage. Now.... What exactly is a Teanut? I'm just curious. Anyway, back in the real world, ......... Students Demand Acknowledgement of Robert E. Lee's 'Racist and Dishonorable Conduct'....... Didn't most people at the time see the Races as different, both White and Black??? Try stepping out of the revisionist mindset, if at all possible, and show me where I am being misled here. Can we learn to distinguish between Political Nature here, and Human Nature??? It would help.

 

[Rogue 9]

My opinion, if Longstreet or Jackson would have been commander of the Army of Northern Virginia the south would have had a better chance at winning. Lee's successes came early in the war against VERY inferior commanders. When he met a competent one at Gettysburg Lee could have won but because of stupid command mistakes the war was effectively lost. The south never smiled after Shiloh, they never had a chance after Gettysburg.

The Union commander at Gettysburg was just as incompetent, but he was lucky. He took a defensive position mostly because he was terrified of Lee. Lee stupidly attacked a very secure position. When rifles have a range of 500 yards, mass infantry assaults are virtual suicide. After the battle General Meade allowed Lee to get away to fight another day. He should have pursued Lee and attacked him every chance he got. That's why Lincoln sacked him.

Correction, Lincoln didn't sack Meade. He remained in command of the Army of the Potomac until the end of the war; he was just overshadowed by Grant making his headquarters with the Army of the Potomac after he was put in command of the entire army.