Support for impeaching (and presumably removing from office) Trump rises

impeach for what?
Treason. Collusion with a foreign power to swing an American Election is just that. What was the quid pro?
Impeachment has long been a political offense applicable to "abuse of office, neglect of duty, unethical conduct bringing one's office into disrespect, and violating the public trust."

As Bowman and Sepinuck write:
[A]lthough neither [George] Mason nor anyone else at the [Constitutional] Convention offered any particular views on what the phrase “high Crimes and Misdemeanors” meant, evidence suggests that the words were intended to embrace at least some non-criminal conduct. Raoul Berger argued that the phrase was a “technical term” derived from English practice, with which the Framers would have been familiar and, therefore, that its technical meaning “furnishes the boundary of the [impeachment] power.” Among the various kinds of official misconduct that fell within the English usage of “high misdemeanors” were such non-criminal behavior as abuse of power, neglect of duty, encroachment on the prerogatives of Parliament, and betrayal of trust....Berger is certainly correct that many delegates to the Philadelphia and ratification conventions would have been sufficiently familiar with English constitutional history to recognize “high Crimes and Misdemeanors” as a phrase that embraced territory broader than indictable crime, but more restricted than mere poor performance in office.

From footnote 27 in the same document:
Berger’s thesis is rendered somewhat more plausible by the recollection that many of the active political figures of the revolutionary generation were also energetic practical political philosophers for whom English history provided the principle source of precedent and comparison.

For example, in 1773-74, John Adams was casting about for a means of resisting parliamentary legislation that undermined the independence of Massachusetts judges by securing them a salary from the Crown rather than, as the Massachusetts charter required, from the colonial assembly. Adams made a special study of English impeachments before proposing that the assembly impeach the judges for violating the charter. Acting on Adams’ suggestion and relying on English precedents, the Massachusetts House of Representatives approved articles of impeachment against the judges, although the Council refused to act upon them.

Still, it seems unlikely that the particulars of Adams’ pre-Revolutionary legal research lingered in the memory of any member of the Constitutional Convention fourteen years later, and Adams himself was abroad as Ambassador to England while the Constitution was being drafted and ratified. On the other hand, the fact that Massachusetts had impeached judges for non-criminal violations of its charter would certainly have been well-remembered.​

Additional references (same ones cited in post 70) -- I can't make anyone read these papers, but any individual committed to having a strong foundation in forming their normative and active views regarding impeaching Trump should read them...After all, if one is going to discuss the matter, it's good to know well what one is talking about because speculating and wishing (for or against impeaching Trump) will not make it so.
 
Ruh-Roh
Kushner Testified He Didn’t Know of Wikileaks Contacts
November 17, 2017

“White House senior adviser Jared Kushner told congressional Russia investigators that he did not communicate with WikiLeaks and did not recall anyone on the Trump campaign who had,” CNN reports.


“But Kushner did receive and forward an email from Donald Trump Jr. about contact Trump Jr. had with WikiLeaks, according to a new report this week and a letter from the Senate Judiciary Committee.”

Meanwhile, NBC News reports that Kushner failed to disclose what lawmakers called a “Russian backdoor overture and dinner invite” involving a banker who has been accused of links to Russian organized crime.

That "I don't recall" and "I don't know" line, one that Reagan used to great effect in the Iran-Contra days, quite simply does not work when there is documentary evidence to the contrary. And no, one cannot just destroy the evidence because if anyone else who may have been party to that evidence provides it, the instant one cannot produce one's own piece of that evidence, one becomes subject to obstruction of justice charges.

Obstruction of justice is intensively about "what did 'so and so' know, when did they know it, and by what point in time did they destroy evidence indicating that they knew it at a given point in time." Given the profligate capacity for members of the Trump Administration to palter and prevaricate, I will be somewhat surprised if Mueller doesn't issue several "obstruction" indictments.

The "elephant in the room" is Trump's role in "all this." Did his team engineer enough plausible deniability for him? I don't know, but I find it hard to believe they did. I know only that Mueller's team is trying very hard to figure out whether they did or did not.
 
As a corollary to another member's thread -- Trump speculates about Franken allegations on Twitter -- I create this thread. I'm creating this thread to discuss Trump, the reasons he should be impreached and the allegations of sexual misconduct, abuse, molestation and/or assault pertaining to him and nobody but him.

July 2017:
Americans were split 42%-42% on the question of whether Trump should be be impeached. (Source)
October 31, 2017:
PPP’s newest national poll finds a record level of support for impeaching Donald Trump. 49% of voters support impeaching him, to 41% who are opposed to doing so. This marks the 6th month in a row we’ve found a plurality of voters in favor of impeaching Trump, and it’s the closest we’ve found to a majority. (Source)

Indeed, in that same poll, respondents attested to thinking Trump is scarier than are ghosts, vampires, zombies, witches, werewolves, mummies and Satan. While most of the margins between Trump and those characters were forty-something to forty-something-else, with regard to Satan, people felt 50% to 36% that Trump is scarier.
As for why Trump should be impeached, the question for me is "why not?" The man is of derelict character -- lying about anything and everything, including on a phone call, to people who knew his voice no less, posing as someone other than himself -- he is inept as the foremost manager of the government; he contracts to do things he does not follow through with doing; he is insincere in his patriotism; he doesn't care about lower and middle income people's struggles; and he has no capacity for empathy or sympathy for anyone but himself. (For those who want specifics on the nature and extent to which those assertions are so, click here.)


'Fraid none of that merits 'high crimes' threshold, Xelor.

Sorry, but you will just have to scream at the sky next year as well.


'Fraid none of that merits 'high crimes' threshold, Xelor.

[High crimes and misdemeanors are] whatever a majority of the House of Representatives considers it to be at a given moment in history; . . . whatever . . . the Senate considers to be sufficiently serious to require removal of the accused from office . ..
-- Gerald R. Ford​

As previously noted, what are and are not "high crimes and misdemeanors" is a political not legal thing. Inasmuch as the offence is political, not legal, "high crimes and misdemeanors" may as well be whatever a currently sitting Congress says are "high crimes and misdemeanors" are. Congress members may speak about "high crimes and misdemeanors" as though there be some sort of legal framework underpinning impeachment hearings and subsequent removal from office, but the fact of the matter is that if a sufficient majority Congress is of a mind to impeach a sitting POTUS or justice, short of a Constitutional amendment that explicitly defines ""high crimes and misdemeanors," there is absolutely nothing stopping them from doing so.

From an analysis of the language of the Constitution in its legal and historical context, from a study of the drafters' stated intentions, and from a review of the Congressional precedents, we can see that "or other high crimes and Misdemeanors" does not mean an indictable crime, does not give the Congress unlimited power to remove, Mr. Ford notwithstanding, but rather, has a definitely delimiting meaning, and does require a "political offense" which must be serious. This could include abuse of office, neglect of duty, unethical conduct bringing one's office into disrespect, and violating the public trust. (Source)
Anyone who thinks for a "hot minute" that plenty that Trump has said, done, not done and not said cannot be framed as some form of "abuse of office, neglect of duty, unethical conduct bringing one's office into disrespect, and violating the public trust," one'd better think again. If there be anything that prevents a Congress from impeaching Trump, it'd likely have more to do with a reticence for setting a precedent for more broadly than in the past construing the impeachment and removal powers than with anything else. Otherwise, however, it really comes down to two things: will and headcount. And with Trump, there's no dearth of will.


Additional references:


Disagreeing with and pissing off far left liberals is not an abuse of office; it is the defense of freedom and civilization.
 
Ruh-Roh
Kushner Testified He Didn’t Know of Wikileaks Contacts
November 17, 2017

“White House senior adviser Jared Kushner told congressional Russia investigators that he did not communicate with WikiLeaks and did not recall anyone on the Trump campaign who had,” CNN reports.


“But Kushner did receive and forward an email from Donald Trump Jr. about contact Trump Jr. had with WikiLeaks, according to a new report this week and a letter from the Senate Judiciary Committee.”

Meanwhile, NBC News reports that Kushner failed to disclose what lawmakers called a “Russian backdoor overture and dinner invite” involving a banker who has been accused of links to Russian organized crime.

That "I don't recall" and "I don't know" line, one that Reagan used to great effect in the Iran-Contra days, quite simply does not work when there is documentary evidence to the contrary. And no, one cannot just destroy the evidence because if anyone else who may have been party to that evidence provides it, the instant one cannot produce one's own piece of that evidence, one becomes subject to obstruction of justice charges.

Obstruction of justice is intensively about "what did 'so and so' know, when did they know it, and by what point in time did they destroy evidence indicating that they knew it at a given point in time." Given the profligate capacity for members of the Trump Administration to palter and prevaricate, I will be somewhat surprised if Mueller doesn't issue several "obstruction" indictments.

The "elephant in the room" is Trump's role in "all this." Did his team engineer enough plausible deniability for him? I don't know, but I find it hard to believe they did. I know only that Mueller's team is trying very hard to figure out whether they did or did not.
"I plead the Fifth Amendment" is the second motto of the Democratic Party, so please dont make a case here against a Republican over 70 years old who cant remember trivialities.
 
Ruh-Roh
Kushner Testified He Didn’t Know of Wikileaks Contacts
November 17, 2017

“White House senior adviser Jared Kushner told congressional Russia investigators that he did not communicate with WikiLeaks and did not recall anyone on the Trump campaign who had,” CNN reports.


“But Kushner did receive and forward an email from Donald Trump Jr. about contact Trump Jr. had with WikiLeaks, according to a new report this week and a letter from the Senate Judiciary Committee.”

Meanwhile, NBC News reports that Kushner failed to disclose what lawmakers called a “Russian backdoor overture and dinner invite” involving a banker who has been accused of links to Russian organized crime.

That "I don't recall" and "I don't know" line, one that Reagan used to great effect in the Iran-Contra days, quite simply does not work when there is documentary evidence to the contrary. And no, one cannot just destroy the evidence because if anyone else who may have been party to that evidence provides it, the instant one cannot produce one's own piece of that evidence, one becomes subject to obstruction of justice charges.

Obstruction of justice is intensively about "what did 'so and so' know, when did they know it, and by what point in time did they destroy evidence indicating that they knew it at a given point in time." Given the profligate capacity for members of the Trump Administration to palter and prevaricate, I will be somewhat surprised if Mueller doesn't issue several "obstruction" indictments.

The "elephant in the room" is Trump's role in "all this." Did his team engineer enough plausible deniability for him? I don't know, but I find it hard to believe they did. I know only that Mueller's team is trying very hard to figure out whether they did or did not.
Is there any point to blowing smoke up your own ass? Trump is not getting impeached. Brings to mind the old adage, "if wishes were horse then beggars would ride".
 
I don't particularly place much merit in those polls. Particularly the USA Today and iMediaEthics poll and given that most average voters are about as informed on the real issues and problems as a box of rocks.

But I do agree with the lattter paragraph.

Last three elections I wrote in Ron Paul in '08 and '12, and wrote in Darrell Castle in 2016.

I don't like the Democrats or the Republicans. They're two sides of the same coin. One debases the economy with social welfare and the other debases it with military welfare. Both partake in corporate welfare. Both partake in monetary policy that wipes out the poor, middle class, senior citizens, and the dollar, while racking up a constant stream of debt for our children to pay. Which they won't be able to do.

They are all politicians seeking power. The Constitution thwarts that power and separates the Executive, Legislative and Judicial powers. The Founders saw that it is all too easy for a country to slip into tyranny. They also make the people in charge of electing representatives so as to further limit government power. Still, with all that, politicians are able to get and retain power for decades. However, they do have to answer to the people. It ain't perfect but it's better than tyrannical or Royal rule.
 
Ruh-Roh
Kushner Testified He Didn’t Know of Wikileaks Contacts
November 17, 2017

“White House senior adviser Jared Kushner told congressional Russia investigators that he did not communicate with WikiLeaks and did not recall anyone on the Trump campaign who had,” CNN reports.


“But Kushner did receive and forward an email from Donald Trump Jr. about contact Trump Jr. had with WikiLeaks, according to a new report this week and a letter from the Senate Judiciary Committee.”

Meanwhile, NBC News reports that Kushner failed to disclose what lawmakers called a “Russian backdoor overture and dinner invite” involving a banker who has been accused of links to Russian organized crime.
Talk about grasping at Straws ..... LMFAO

Who's grasping at straws are Kushner's attorneys. Kushner, perhaps more so than anyone else connected to the Trump campaign and Administration, has been remiss about providing requested information.

Kushner, via his lawyers, in effect said that he didn't include certain pieces of information because in his mind it was so insignificant that he didn't think it'd be relevant. WTF? It's not his place to decide what's irrelevant and what's not. That task falls to the people who review the information he provides. Kushner's was the easy part, provide the information, all of it, and he couldn't/wouldn't even do that.

So no, if anyone's grasping at straws, it's most certainly Kushner and his attorneys. They're grasping for the straws that'll keep his presumptuous ass out of jail.
 
Ruh-Roh
Kushner Testified He Didn’t Know of Wikileaks Contacts
November 17, 2017

“White House senior adviser Jared Kushner told congressional Russia investigators that he did not communicate with WikiLeaks and did not recall anyone on the Trump campaign who had,” CNN reports.


“But Kushner did receive and forward an email from Donald Trump Jr. about contact Trump Jr. had with WikiLeaks, according to a new report this week and a letter from the Senate Judiciary Committee.”

Meanwhile, NBC News reports that Kushner failed to disclose what lawmakers called a “Russian backdoor overture and dinner invite” involving a banker who has been accused of links to Russian organized crime.

That "I don't recall" and "I don't know" line, one that Reagan used to great effect in the Iran-Contra days, quite simply does not work when there is documentary evidence to the contrary. And no, one cannot just destroy the evidence because if anyone else who may have been party to that evidence provides it, the instant one cannot produce one's own piece of that evidence, one becomes subject to obstruction of justice charges.

Obstruction of justice is intensively about "what did 'so and so' know, when did they know it, and by what point in time did they destroy evidence indicating that they knew it at a given point in time." Given the profligate capacity for members of the Trump Administration to palter and prevaricate, I will be somewhat surprised if Mueller doesn't issue several "obstruction" indictments.

The "elephant in the room" is Trump's role in "all this." Did his team engineer enough plausible deniability for him? I don't know, but I find it hard to believe they did. I know only that Mueller's team is trying very hard to figure out whether they did or did not.
"I plead the Fifth Amendment" is the second motto of the Democratic Party, so please dont make a case here against a Republican over 70 years old who cant remember trivialities.
??? I didn't. Kushner's not over 70 years-old, yet he is the person who claims he cannot recall and he's the person cited in the passage to which I responded.
 
As a corollary to another member's thread -- Trump speculates about Franken allegations on Twitter -- I create this thread. I'm creating this thread to discuss Trump, the reasons he should be impreached and the allegations of sexual misconduct, abuse, molestation and/or assault pertaining to him and nobody but him.

July 2017:
Americans were split 42%-42% on the question of whether Trump should be be impeached. (Source)
October 31, 2017:
PPP’s newest national poll finds a record level of support for impeaching Donald Trump. 49% of voters support impeaching him, to 41% who are opposed to doing so. This marks the 6th month in a row we’ve found a plurality of voters in favor of impeaching Trump, and it’s the closest we’ve found to a majority. (Source)

Indeed, in that same poll, respondents attested to thinking Trump is scarier than are ghosts, vampires, zombies, witches, werewolves, mummies and Satan. While most of the margins between Trump and those characters were forty-something to forty-something-else, with regard to Satan, people felt 50% to 36% that Trump is scarier.
As for why Trump should be impeached, the question for me is "why not?" The man is of derelict character -- lying about anything and everything, including on a phone call, to people who knew his voice no less, posing as someone other than himself -- he is inept as the foremost manager of the government; he contracts to do things he does not follow through with doing; he is insincere in his patriotism; he doesn't care about lower and middle income people's struggles; and he has no capacity for empathy or sympathy for anyone but himself. (For those who want specifics on the nature and extent to which those assertions are so, click here.)


'Fraid none of that merits 'high crimes' threshold, Xelor.

Sorry, but you will just have to scream at the sky next year as well.


'Fraid none of that merits 'high crimes' threshold, Xelor.

[High crimes and misdemeanors are] whatever a majority of the House of Representatives considers it to be at a given moment in history; . . . whatever . . . the Senate considers to be sufficiently serious to require removal of the accused from office . ..
-- Gerald R. Ford​

As previously noted, what are and are not "high crimes and misdemeanors" is a political not legal thing. Inasmuch as the offence is political, not legal, "high crimes and misdemeanors" may as well be whatever a currently sitting Congress says are "high crimes and misdemeanors" are. Congress members may speak about "high crimes and misdemeanors" as though there be some sort of legal framework underpinning impeachment hearings and subsequent removal from office, but the fact of the matter is that if a sufficient majority Congress is of a mind to impeach a sitting POTUS or justice, short of a Constitutional amendment that explicitly defines ""high crimes and misdemeanors," there is absolutely nothing stopping them from doing so.

From an analysis of the language of the Constitution in its legal and historical context, from a study of the drafters' stated intentions, and from a review of the Congressional precedents, we can see that "or other high crimes and Misdemeanors" does not mean an indictable crime, does not give the Congress unlimited power to remove, Mr. Ford notwithstanding, but rather, has a definitely delimiting meaning, and does require a "political offense" which must be serious. This could include abuse of office, neglect of duty, unethical conduct bringing one's office into disrespect, and violating the public trust. (Source)
Anyone who thinks for a "hot minute" that plenty that Trump has said, done, not done and not said cannot be framed as some form of "abuse of office, neglect of duty, unethical conduct bringing one's office into disrespect, and violating the public trust," one'd better think again. If there be anything that prevents a Congress from impeaching Trump, it'd likely have more to do with a reticence for setting a precedent for more broadly than in the past construing the impeachment and removal powers than with anything else. Otherwise, however, it really comes down to two things: will and headcount. And with Trump, there's no dearth of will.


Additional references:


Disagreeing with and pissing off far left liberals is not an abuse of office; it is the defense of freedom and civilization.

Framing may be an effective rhetorical tactic with some folks here. It's not with me.
 
As a corollary to another member's thread -- Trump speculates about Franken allegations on Twitter -- I create this thread. I'm creating this thread to discuss Trump, the reasons he should be impreached and the allegations of sexual misconduct, abuse, molestation and/or assault pertaining to him and nobody but him.

July 2017:
Americans were split 42%-42% on the question of whether Trump should be be impeached. (Source)
October 31, 2017:
PPP’s newest national poll finds a record level of support for impeaching Donald Trump. 49% of voters support impeaching him, to 41% who are opposed to doing so. This marks the 6th month in a row we’ve found a plurality of voters in favor of impeaching Trump, and it’s the closest we’ve found to a majority. (Source)

Indeed, in that same poll, respondents attested to thinking Trump is scarier than are ghosts, vampires, zombies, witches, werewolves, mummies and Satan. While most of the margins between Trump and those characters were forty-something to forty-something-else, with regard to Satan, people felt 50% to 36% that Trump is scarier.
As for why Trump should be impeached, the question for me is "why not?" The man is of derelict character -- lying about anything and everything, including on a phone call, to people who knew his voice no less, posing as someone other than himself -- he is inept as the foremost manager of the government; he contracts to do things he does not follow through with doing; he is insincere in his patriotism; he doesn't care about lower and middle income people's struggles; and he has no capacity for empathy or sympathy for anyone but himself. (For those who want specifics on the nature and extent to which those assertions are so, click here.)
So what High Crimes and Misdemeanors did the POTUS engage in ? Your copy and paste abilities are certainly meritorious, your fuzzy logic has a lot to be desired. The Constitution sets specific grounds for impeachment. They are “treason, bribery, and other high crimes and misdemeanors.”


I would certainly say that setting 5 terrorist enemies of the state free in exchange for 1 traitor is treason, no?

That's an impeachable offense and should not be let go.
 
??? I didn't. Kushner's not over 70 years-old, yet he is the person who claims he cannot recall and he's the person cited in the passage to which I responded.
Russian Tried to Broker ‘Backdoor’ Meeting With Trump
November 17, 2017

“A senior Russian official who claimed to be acting at the behest of President Vladimir Putin of Russia tried in May 2016 to arrange a meeting between Mr. Putin and Donald Trump,” the New York Times reports.


“The news of this reached the Trump campaign in a very circuitous way. An advocate for Christian causes emailed campaign aides saying that Alexander Torshin, the deputy governor of the Russian central bank who has been linked both to Russia’s security services and organized crime, had proposed a meeting between Mr. Putin and Mr. Trump. The subject line of the email, turned over to Senate investigators, read, ‘Russian backdoor overture and dinner invite,’ according to one person who has seen the message.”
 
Top Russian Official Tried to Broker ‘Backdoor’ Meeting Between Trump and Putin
By MATT APUZZO, MATTHEW ROSENBERG and ADAM GOLDMANNOV. 17, 2017

Top Russian Official Tried to Broker ‘Backdoor’ Meeting Between Trump and Putin

The overture to the Trump campaign was first reported by CNN. The New York Times confirmed new details, including Mr. Torshin’s involvement and his claim to be acting on Mr. Putin’s behalf. In a letter on Thursday, the Senate Judiciary Committee accused Mr. Kushner of withholding the “backdoor overture” email, an accusation that Mr. Kushner’s lawyers denied.

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Alexander Torshin, the deputy governor of the Russian central bank, at a round table in Moscow in September 2016. Credit Alexander Shalgin/TASS, via Getty Images
 
As a corollary to another member's thread -- Trump speculates about Franken allegations on Twitter -- I create this thread. I'm creating this thread to discuss Trump, the reasons he should be impreached and the allegations of sexual misconduct, abuse, molestation and/or assault pertaining to him and nobody but him.

July 2017:
Americans were split 42%-42% on the question of whether Trump should be be impeached. (Source)
October 31, 2017:
PPP’s newest national poll finds a record level of support for impeaching Donald Trump. 49% of voters support impeaching him, to 41% who are opposed to doing so. This marks the 6th month in a row we’ve found a plurality of voters in favor of impeaching Trump, and it’s the closest we’ve found to a majority. (Source)

Indeed, in that same poll, respondents attested to thinking Trump is scarier than are ghosts, vampires, zombies, witches, werewolves, mummies and Satan. While most of the margins between Trump and those characters were forty-something to forty-something-else, with regard to Satan, people felt 50% to 36% that Trump is scarier.
As for why Trump should be impeached, the question for me is "why not?" The man is of derelict character -- lying about anything and everything, including on a phone call, to people who knew his voice no less, posing as someone other than himself -- he is inept as the foremost manager of the government; he contracts to do things he does not follow through with doing; he is insincere in his patriotism; he doesn't care about lower and middle income people's struggles; and he has no capacity for empathy or sympathy for anyone but himself. (For those who want specifics on the nature and extent to which those assertions are so, click here.)
So what High Crimes and Misdemeanors did the POTUS engage in ? Your copy and paste abilities are certainly meritorious, your fuzzy logic has a lot to be desired. The Constitution sets specific grounds for impeachment. They are “treason, bribery, and other high crimes and misdemeanors.”


I would certainly say that setting 5 terrorist enemies of the state free in exchange for 1 traitor is treason, no?

That's an impeachable offense and should not be let go.
That was done by a Democrat, they are held to lower standards.
 
Ruh-Roh
Kushner Testified He Didn’t Know of Wikileaks Contacts
November 17, 2017

“White House senior adviser Jared Kushner told congressional Russia investigators that he did not communicate with WikiLeaks and did not recall anyone on the Trump campaign who had,” CNN reports.


“But Kushner did receive and forward an email from Donald Trump Jr. about contact Trump Jr. had with WikiLeaks, according to a new report this week and a letter from the Senate Judiciary Committee.”

Meanwhile, NBC News reports that Kushner failed to disclose what lawmakers called a “Russian backdoor overture and dinner invite” involving a banker who has been accused of links to Russian organized crime.
Talk about grasping at Straws ..... LMFAO

Who's grasping at straws are Kushner's attorneys. Kushner, perhaps more so than anyone else connected to the Trump campaign and Administration, has been remiss about providing requested information.

Kushner, via his lawyers, in effect said that he didn't include certain pieces of information because in his mind it was so insignificant that he didn't think it'd be relevant. WTF? It's not his place to decide what's irrelevant and what's not. That task falls to the people who review the information he provides. Kushner's was the easy part, provide the information, all of it, and he couldn't/wouldn't even do that.

So no, if anyone's grasping at straws, it's most certainly Kushner and his attorneys. They're grasping for the straws that'll keep his presumptuous ass out of jail.
And what pray tell has kept Hillary and Bills presumptuous asses out of Jail. Oh wait - that's right - they're Democrats - corruption and perjury are acceptable by them.
 
As a corollary to another member's thread -- Trump speculates about Franken allegations on Twitter -- I create this thread. I'm creating this thread to discuss Trump, the reasons he should be impreached and the allegations of sexual misconduct, abuse, molestation and/or assault pertaining to him and nobody but him.

July 2017:
Americans were split 42%-42% on the question of whether Trump should be be impeached. (Source)
October 31, 2017:
PPP’s newest national poll finds a record level of support for impeaching Donald Trump. 49% of voters support impeaching him, to 41% who are opposed to doing so. This marks the 6th month in a row we’ve found a plurality of voters in favor of impeaching Trump, and it’s the closest we’ve found to a majority. (Source)

Indeed, in that same poll, respondents attested to thinking Trump is scarier than are ghosts, vampires, zombies, witches, werewolves, mummies and Satan. While most of the margins between Trump and those characters were forty-something to forty-something-else, with regard to Satan, people felt 50% to 36% that Trump is scarier.
As for why Trump should be impeached, the question for me is "why not?" The man is of derelict character -- lying about anything and everything, including on a phone call, to people who knew his voice no less, posing as someone other than himself -- he is inept as the foremost manager of the government; he contracts to do things he does not follow through with doing; he is insincere in his patriotism; he doesn't care about lower and middle income people's struggles; and he has no capacity for empathy or sympathy for anyone but himself. (For those who want specifics on the nature and extent to which those assertions are so, click here.)

Trump will be impeached the same day George W. Bush and Richard Bruce Cheney head to the Hague, which is never!
 
Ruh-Roh
Kushner Testified He Didn’t Know of Wikileaks Contacts
November 17, 2017

“White House senior adviser Jared Kushner told congressional Russia investigators that he did not communicate with WikiLeaks and did not recall anyone on the Trump campaign who had,” CNN reports.


“But Kushner did receive and forward an email from Donald Trump Jr. about contact Trump Jr. had with WikiLeaks, according to a new report this week and a letter from the Senate Judiciary Committee.”

Meanwhile, NBC News reports that Kushner failed to disclose what lawmakers called a “Russian backdoor overture and dinner invite” involving a banker who has been accused of links to Russian organized crime.
Talk about grasping at Straws ..... LMFAO

Who's grasping at straws are Kushner's attorneys. Kushner, perhaps more so than anyone else connected to the Trump campaign and Administration, has been remiss about providing requested information.

Kushner, via his lawyers, in effect said that he didn't include certain pieces of information because in his mind it was so insignificant that he didn't think it'd be relevant. WTF? It's not his place to decide what's irrelevant and what's not. That task falls to the people who review the information he provides. Kushner's was the easy part, provide the information, all of it, and he couldn't/wouldn't even do that.

So no, if anyone's grasping at straws, it's most certainly Kushner and his attorneys. They're grasping for the straws that'll keep his presumptuous ass out of jail.
And what pray tell has kept Hillary and Bills presumptuous asses out of Jail. Oh wait - that's right - they're Democrats - corruption and perjury are acceptable by them.
No one connected to the Clinton campaign is under house arrest and no one has taken a guilty plea either. Anyone else notice?
 
Ruh-Roh
Kushner Testified He Didn’t Know of Wikileaks Contacts
November 17, 2017

“White House senior adviser Jared Kushner told congressional Russia investigators that he did not communicate with WikiLeaks and did not recall anyone on the Trump campaign who had,” CNN reports.


“But Kushner did receive and forward an email from Donald Trump Jr. about contact Trump Jr. had with WikiLeaks, according to a new report this week and a letter from the Senate Judiciary Committee.”

Meanwhile, NBC News reports that Kushner failed to disclose what lawmakers called a “Russian backdoor overture and dinner invite” involving a banker who has been accused of links to Russian organized crime.
Talk about grasping at Straws ..... LMFAO

Who's grasping at straws are Kushner's attorneys. Kushner, perhaps more so than anyone else connected to the Trump campaign and Administration, has been remiss about providing requested information.

Kushner, via his lawyers, in effect said that he didn't include certain pieces of information because in his mind it was so insignificant that he didn't think it'd be relevant. WTF? It's not his place to decide what's irrelevant and what's not. That task falls to the people who review the information he provides. Kushner's was the easy part, provide the information, all of it, and he couldn't/wouldn't even do that.

So no, if anyone's grasping at straws, it's most certainly Kushner and his attorneys. They're grasping for the straws that'll keep his presumptuous ass out of jail.
And what pray tell has kept Hillary and Bills presumptuous asses out of Jail. Oh wait - that's right - they're Democrats - corruption and perjury are acceptable by them.
No one connected to the Clinton campaign is under house arrest and no one has taken a guilty plea either. Anyone else notice?
As I said -- Democrats are held to much lower standards
 
As a corollary to another member's thread -- Trump speculates about Franken allegations on Twitter -- I create this thread. I'm creating this thread to discuss Trump, the reasons he should be impreached and the allegations of sexual misconduct, abuse, molestation and/or assault pertaining to him and nobody but him.

July 2017:
Americans were split 42%-42% on the question of whether Trump should be be impeached. (Source)
October 31, 2017:
PPP’s newest national poll finds a record level of support for impeaching Donald Trump. 49% of voters support impeaching him, to 41% who are opposed to doing so. This marks the 6th month in a row we’ve found a plurality of voters in favor of impeaching Trump, and it’s the closest we’ve found to a majority. (Source)

Indeed, in that same poll, respondents attested to thinking Trump is scarier than are ghosts, vampires, zombies, witches, werewolves, mummies and Satan. While most of the margins between Trump and those characters were forty-something to forty-something-else, with regard to Satan, people felt 50% to 36% that Trump is scarier.
As for why Trump should be impeached, the question for me is "why not?" The man is of derelict character -- lying about anything and everything, including on a phone call, to people who knew his voice no less, posing as someone other than himself -- he is inept as the foremost manager of the government; he contracts to do things he does not follow through with doing; he is insincere in his patriotism; he doesn't care about lower and middle income people's struggles; and he has no capacity for empathy or sympathy for anyone but himself. (For those who want specifics on the nature and extent to which those assertions are so, click here.)

Trump will be impeached the same day George W. Bush and Richard Bruce Cheney head to the Hague, which is never!
He doesn`t have to be impeached. Nixon wasn`t.
 

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