Supreme Court: Coach Can Pray on the Sidelines. Ruling 6-3

[Billy_Bob]

That's never been true. Look at history.

Wrong.... The DOI explains this...

WHEN in the Course of human Events, it becomes necessary for one People to dissolve the Political Bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the Powers of the Earth, the separate and equal Station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature’s God entitle them, a decent Respect to the Opinions of Mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the Separation.
We hold these Truths to be self-evident, that all Men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness—-That to secure these Rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just Powers from the Consent of the Governed, that whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these Ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its Foundation on such Principles, and organizing its Powers in such Form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient Causes; and accordingly all Experience hath shewn, that Mankind are more disposed to suffer, while Evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the Forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long Train of Abuses and Usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object, evinces a Design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their Right, it is their Duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future Security. Such has been the patient Sufferance of these Colonies; and such is now the Necessity which constrains them to alter their former Systems of Government. The History of the present King of Great-Britain is a History of repeated Injuries and Usurpations, all having in direct Object the Establishment of an absolute Tyranny over these States. To prove this, let Facts be submitted to a candid World.

Epic fialure..

 

[iceberg]

Of course it is. When a Govt employee does something they are giving a implied endorsement of it.

But that sentiment also echos to the team and other players.

That said some teams allowed it, some no, so team ownership decision.

The off duty thing is nice but if at a game, isn't that working?

Will need to read more

 

[surada]

I didn't write that article...newsflash

I know. Fox news wrote it.

 

[SweetSue92]

As long as no players are required or intimidated to pray with him it's not an issue

I am a Christian and I agree. Not my place at school. But that was not the issue here.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Satanists always been able to do it. The problem is nobody wants to.

But they are coming...

WGAL 8 In Focus: debate over after-school Satan club

The Northern York County School Board voted down a proposal for what is called an after-school Satan club.

www.wgal.com

https://www.kansascity.com/news/nation-world/national/article257806878.html

Proposal for ‘After School Satan Club’ denied by Pennsylvania school board

There was outrage in a Pennsylvania school district this week following a proposal for a new after-school program: a “Satan Club.”

www.abc27.com

 

[AMart]

I ca

I can’t wait for the Muslims to start practicing theirs.

But not Christians?

 

[Flash]

Isn't it amazing how dumb Liberals are when it comes to understanding the Constitution? It is like they don't have a clue. Even when they are appointed to the Supreme Court like those three idiots that voted against this case and have been on the wrong side of other cases.

Liberals are as ignorant of the Constitution as they are of Economics, History, Biology, Climate Science and Ethics.

 

[iceberg]

The decison says no. The seperation of church and state was limited. IT doesnt allow the government to create a state church. It does not stop personal, public displays.

I need to read through the decision as this was addressed.

Agree or not won't matter, I just want to understand the logic.

Thank you

 

[Dogmaphobe]

I'm sure I'm in the minority on this, but I think NEITHER politics nor religion should be in our schools. I see this one in a similar fashion to my views on the woke idiots forcing THEIR religion down kids throats.

I had a pharisaical band director in high school, and he played such favorites that I ended up quitting. In this decision, the first thing I think of are all the players who DON'T want to pray, but feel compelled to go through the motions because of the repercussions for not doing so.

 

[surada]

Wrong.... The DOI explains this...

WHEN in the Course of human Events, it becomes necessary for one People to dissolve the Political Bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the Powers of the Earth, the separate and equal Station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature’s God entitle them, a decent Respect to the Opinions of Mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the Separation.
We hold these Truths to be self-evident, that all Men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness—-That to secure these Rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just Powers from the Consent of the Governed, that whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these Ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its Foundation on such Principles, and organizing its Powers in such Form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient Causes; and accordingly all Experience hath shewn, that Mankind are more disposed to suffer, while Evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the Forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long Train of Abuses and Usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object, evinces a Design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their Right, it is their Duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future Security. Such has been the patient Sufferance of these Colonies; and such is now the Necessity which constrains them to alter their former Systems of Government. The History of the present King of Great-Britain is a History of repeated Injuries and Usurpations, all having in direct Object the Establishment of an absolute Tyranny over these States. To prove this, let Facts be submitted to a candid World.

Epic fialure..

Look at history.

 

[AMart]

But they are coming...

WGAL 8 In Focus: debate over after-school Satan club

The Northern York County School Board voted down a proposal for what is called an after-school Satan club.

www.wgal.com

https://www.kansascity.com/news/nation-world/national/article257806878.html

Proposal for ‘After School Satan Club’ denied by Pennsylvania school board

There was outrage in a Pennsylvania school district this week following a proposal for a new after-school program: a “Satan Club.”

www.abc27.com

Is that the Antifa club?

 

[SweetSue92]

Isn't it amazing how dumb Liberals are when it comes to understanding the Constitution? It is like they don't have a clue. Even when they are appointed to the Supreme Court like those three idiots that voted against this case and have been on the wrong side of other cases.

Liberals are as ignorant of the Constitution as they are of Economics, History, Biology, Climate Science and Ethics.

One asked me to state where I found this info in the Constitution.

Ummmm

The first amendment??

 

[Harpy Eagle]

As long as no players are required or intimidated to pray with him it's not an issue

Do we know if that was the case? Did players that not join in get less playing time the next game?

 

[AMart]

He was praying publicly , making a display out of it.

I agree he can pray personally all day and night long.

Yeah it's legal!!!

 

[AMart]

Do we know if that was the case? Did players that not join in get less playing time the next game?

That didn't happen, stop making stuff up.

 

[Billy_Bob]

Look at history.

Men do not grant natural rights.. Only the creator can do that. The belief that men created these means men can take them away and the framers placed these rights above men. These cannot be taken away and they ensured that we would be armed to keep it from happening.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

That didn't happen, stop making stuff up.

prove it.

 

[Flash]

The Supremes have been hitting it out of the park this year! Home run after home run.

God bless Trump for appointing Conservatives to the Court.

 

[SweetSue92]

I'm sure I'm in the minority on this, but I think NEITHER politics nor religion should be in our schools. I see this one in a similar fashion to my views on the woke idiots forcing THEIR religion down kids throats.

I had a pharisaical band director in high school, and he played such favorites that I ended up quitting. In this decision, the first thing I think of are all the players who DON'T want to pray, but feel compelled to go through the motions because of the repercussions for not doing so.

Making employees check their faith at the door is a violation of their 1st amendment rights. The 1st A doesn't say "unless you work for the govt, then it doesn't count". That's first.

Secondly, you can hardly teach without addressing religion of some sort, especially as kids get older. We are absolutely allowed to teach ABOUT religion as long as we remain neutral and teach content, facts, etc--not evangelizing. In my field it's important for me to understand the laws on this--again, as long as the educational content is solid and you're not "playing favorites", it's fine.

 

[Delldude]

Bad decision by the Court.

The Coach is a paid employee, by choosing to pray to his chosen god he is endorsing that god as part of his official duties as head coach. Endorsing one religion over all others is the first step to establishing it.

I cannot wait till the Satanist get ahold of this and start to hold their version of "prayers" after a football game.

Sounds like Islam under Obama.