Supreme Court. Individual mandate

[Sallow]

Big Brother now owns your body. I don't get celebrating that. Freedom & Liberty took another major hit today. How sad.

Freedom and Liberty?

this from a supporter of the racist and antisemitic Ron Paul?

You forgot secessionist that pointed out that the North could have simply bought all the slaves and avoided the civil war.

So much for "natural" liberty..eh?

 

[gallantwarrior]

Eff that court too that fcker Kagan should of sat out.

Recuse herself for cause? OMG, why would you ever expect that kind of honesty from the likes of Kagan, or her master?

 

[clevergirl]

Does anyone remember our president claiming his mandate was not a tax? Well the truth is now made obvious- the president lied the people were screwed. This can actually be used against democrats now. They lied- all of them that signed onto this. It is an unpopular bill- always has been. As to the "Constitutional Scholar" claim? If he was so spectacular they'd have upheld the mandate as was written- they did not.


Obama: Mandate is Not a Tax - ABC News

 

[Sallow]

There is a penalty . . . they're just calling it a tax now.

Here's the thing..

It's not enforced.

It's almost on the honor system.



And this what was the Conservative crusade.

To undermine the Obama administration.

Well..shot down in flames.

Are you saying we don't have to purchase insurance? Then why have the mandate and why are we calling it a mandate.

The law..as it is written..assesses a tax penalty against you if you don't have insurance.

But get this..

As written..no one can force you to pay that tax. Not the police, not the IRS...nobody.

Grand..ain't it?

 

[Dick Tuck]

Big Brother now owns your body. I don't get celebrating that. Freedom & Liberty took another major hit today. How sad.

Now every American has access to affordable and comprehensive healthcare, under law and our Constitution. It's a great day in America.

 

[GHook93]

Interesting ruling, very scary slippery slope that might be snowballing.

If they FED can use it's taxing power to force people to buy things disgusing the penalty/mandate as a tax what is next?
(1) Expensive lightbulbs? Get this lighbulbs or pay a global warming tax.
(2) Electric Cars? Get these cars or pay greenhouse gas tax.
(3) Paint your roof white? Paint it white or pay the antireflect tax.
(4) Only eat fruits and vegetables? Or pay the evil carivore tax.
(5) Only wear cotton? Or pay the unpatriotic non-cotton tax.

If the Fed can force you to buy one thing in the guise of a tax for not buying it, what is stopping them from forcing you to buy other things?



NOTE: The state forcing a person to buy say auto insurance is done by it's police powers. Therefore in order for a State to force a resident to purchase a product it has to be in accordance with protecting the State and public. That is a MUCH higher burden to fulfill then the now precedences set by the Fed to force consumer based on it's taxing powers.

medical care is picked up by everyone. all things are not equal. that is what will keep the fed from doing your imaginary imbecilities

Hey cocksucker I RECOGNIZED many times that healthcare and health insurance is a much different product/services than all other products. So blow it out your ass you arrogant little prick.

http://www.usmessageboard.com/5482559-post1.html

The fact that it is a different product/service was the reason for upholding the mandate. In fact they shot down the mandate as/is and stated it was a tax and that Congress can now use it's taxing power to force people to buy products. That same logic can now be used to purchase any product.

Get an education before you talk!

 

[Sallow]

Eff that court too that fcker Kagan should of sat out.

Recuse herself for cause? OMG, why would you ever expect that kind of honesty from the likes of Kagan, or her master?

Heh.

Surprising there's no mention of Thomas..who's wife gets a check from the Heritage Foundation.

Wonder why?

 

[clevergirl]

Roberts just made it easy for repealing it. All taxes can be repealed.

Yes, but it was a political football punt and I hate that shit.

 

[Skull Pilot]

Big Brother now owns your body. I don't get celebrating that. Freedom & Liberty took another major hit today. How sad.

Now every American has access to affordable and comprehensive healthcare, under law and our Constitution. It's a great day in America.

Bullshit. Nothing the fucking government does is affordable.

For proof look at the nearly 20 trillion dollar deficit.

 

[BDBoop]

Eff that court too that fcker Kagan should of sat out.

Recuse herself for cause? OMG, why would you ever expect that kind of honesty from the likes of Kagan, or her master?

Heh.

Surprising there's no mention of Thomas..who's wife gets a check from the Heritage Foundation.

Wonder why?

I was just wondering that very thing!

 

[Dick Tuck]

This is a real blow to our freedom. Obama won and Americans lost. Wait till no on is working them we will have no insurance and no taxes. I had hoped that theSC would have some sense but then, they like politicians are above the law.

Universal access to comprehensive and affordable healthcare is a huge win for Americans.

 

[gallantwarrior]

The Mandate has been upheld as a 'Tax.' Another blow to Freedom & Liberty. This isn't something to celebrate. I know many will, but it just isn't.

Freedom and Liberty?




get a grip. loser

You would celebrate this. You don't even know what you're celebrating. Big Brother now controls even more of your life. Why are you celebrating that?

All the brainless twats who are incapable of governing themselves, and who desire a government nanny to do so for them, will be celebrating this atrocity.

 

[dblack]

ACA is upheld. Taxing must be reworked. States don't have to accept expanded Medicaid coverage.

Good day for America.

If it inspires serious civil disobedience and wakes more people up to the specter of corporatism - maybe.

No massive disobedience. The minority in the GOP will be pissed, but that is all.

A whimper, rather than a bang? Maybe.

I'm hoping to see a serious campaign to game the fuck out of the mandate. I'd like to huge swaths of people deliberately cancelling their insurance and waiting until their sick to sign up. 'Give back' to the insurance companies some of the fucking they have lined up for us.

 

[Black_Label]

yep obama is not going to raise taxes he said he wasn't

Obama was against raising taxes until he was for it.

Obama - "Fuck the 99%".

Obama - "Fuck you GOP"

 

[Zoom-boing]

There is a penalty . . . they're just calling it a tax now.

Here's the thing..

It's not enforced.

It's almost on the honor system.



And this what was the Conservative crusade.

To undermine the Obama administration.

Well..shot down in flames.

Honor system? Aren't all medical records suppose to be transferred over to electronic and stored in DC?

 

[Dick Tuck]

Does anyone remember our president claiming his mandate was not a tax? Well the truth is now made obvious- the president lied the people were screwed. This can actually be used against democrats now. They lied- all of them that signed onto this. It is an unpopular bill- always has been. As to the "Constitutional Scholar" claim? If he was so spectacular they'd have upheld the mandate as was written- they did not.


Obama: Mandate is Not a Tax - ABC News

You dumb shit, it's a fee to those who don't have, but can afford health insurance. They're the only ones who have to pay. Are you really this stupid?

 

[Sallow]

Freedom and Liberty?




get a grip. loser

You would celebrate this. You don't even know what you're celebrating. Big Brother now controls even more of your life. Why are you celebrating that?

All the brainless twats who are incapable of governing themselves, and who desire a government nanny to do so for them, will be celebrating this atrocity.

Atrocities are when a government packs a particular group of people into trains and shovels them into ovens because of their religion.

But enough of that.

Are you against government?

You prefer anarchy?

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Guns and Freedom! Pack your bags!

 

[L.K.Eder]

"Supreme Court. Individual mandate UNCONSTITUTIONAL"


hahahah

 

[Quantum Windbag]

Interesting ruling, very scary slippery slope that might be snowballing.

If they FED can use it's taxing power to force people to buy things disgusing the penalty/mandate as a tax what is next?
(1) Expensive lightbulbs? Get this lighbulbs or pay a global warming tax.
(2) Electric Cars? Get these cars or pay greenhouse gas tax.
(3) Paint your roof white? Paint it white or pay the antireflect tax.
(4) Only eat fruits and vegetables? Or pay the evil carivore tax.
(5) Only wear cotton? Or pay the unpatriotic non-cotton tax.

If the Fed can force you to buy one thing in the guise of a tax for not buying it, what is stopping them from forcing you to buy other things?



NOTE: The state forcing a person to buy say auto insurance is done by it's police powers. Therefore in order for a State to force a resident to purchase a product it has to be in accordance with protecting the State and public. That is a MUCH higher burden to fulfill then the now precedences set by the Fed to force consumer based on it's taxing powers.

medical care is picked up by everyone. all things are not equal. that is what will keep the fed from doing your imaginary imbecilities

You dropped a word in your response.

 

[Zoom-boing]

Here's the thing..

It's not enforced.

It's almost on the honor system.



And this what was the Conservative crusade.

To undermine the Obama administration.

Well..shot down in flames.

Are you saying we don't have to purchase insurance? Then why have the mandate and why are we calling it a mandate.

The law..as it is written..assesses a tax penalty against you if you don't have insurance.

But get this..

As written..no one can force you to pay that tax. Not the police, not the IRS...nobody.

Grand..ain't it?

They will simply with hold it from your refund.