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Your timeline is missing somthing .
He went for congresses approval and they bocked at the idea . Same wh parliament ..
Remember that more chemical weapons went off in Syria between a battle with the rebels and IS...No credible proof Assad gassed his own People. That was just Western Warmonger propaganda. The International Justice System has to take a serious look at the 'Regime Change' policy. The U.S. especially, has used that policy to commit unspeakable atrocities all over the world. Declaring 'Regime Change' is an illegal act. Those nations declaring it, should be held accountable.
The way I am reading your comment is that you believe chemical weapons WERE used but there was no undeniable proof that ASSAD used them....
LINK: Syria chemical weapons: the proof that Assad regime launching chlorine attacks on children
There is actually no question regarding if chemical weapons were used; however, as you point out, there ARE questions as to WHO used them - Assad or the rebels fighting against him.
The Kurds are considered terrorists over there but they have full right to do what they have done. Turkey govt is disgusting..Time to reconsider 'friendships' with awful nations like Saudi Arabia and Turkey. They're the main financiers of ISIS. Without their money, training, and weapons, there wouldn't be an ISIS. And that falls back on the U.S. The U.S. arms and trains both nations.
Time to do a lot of 'reconsidering'.
Saudi, Qatar, UAE...they live right across the Bay from Iran and walk a tightrope to remain on MANY bad people's 'good side', thus they aid and support terrorists. Our relationship is one with the 'devil' out of 'necessity'. What goes on in that part of the world effects our national interests, and to have access to that part of the world we have to have operating / military bases. While we have an alliance of 'mutual defense / security' at the same time individually we/they are making deals with others who are 'bad' for us / each other.
Politicians are the same as nations in this way. It has been proven, for example, how Hillary touts her support for women, homosexuals, and opposition against terrorists while she simultaneously seeks increased power by taking financial contributions from nations that support terrorism, oppresses women, engages in the mutilation of female genitalia, and murders gays.
Necessary evils'?
'Deals with the devil for gain'?
...in the end, as we have seen, they all come with a COST!
Saudi Arabia may be the most evil nation on earth. Without its massive funding & arming, there would be no ISIS or Al Qaeda. Most of the 9/11 terrorists were Saudis. Yet we still call it our 'close ally.' But why?... It's all about the money.
And Turkey is a despicable nation as well. What we've allowed them to do to the Kurds, is truly unforgivable. It's also a big financier of ISIS in Syria. We really do need to reassess these relationships.
The above is crazy talk . Might as well be a holocaust denier or 911 truther .
InsanityHey, let's give our 'Moderate Friends' some more Taxpayer money & weapons. Sound good?
Video: “Moderate Rebels” Celebrate Death Of Russian Pilot With Chants Of “Allahu Akbar”
Hey, let's give our 'Moderate Friends' some more Taxpayer money & weapons. Sound good?
Video: “Moderate Rebels” Celebrate Death Of Russian Pilot With Chants Of “Allahu Akbar”
It started...and has continued...like this:
Civil War in Syria
Assad gasses his own people
Obama steps in and issues 'Red Line'
- WHY? I thought we weren't the world's policeman, libs?! Where the hell was the U.N.?
Assad ignores Obama, uses WMD on his people again.
Obama retreats from 'Red Line', blames 'the world' for the 'Red Line', calls it THEIRS
- Exposes Obama's un-willingness to back his words
- Obama's ego never allowed him to consider Assad might actually ignore his 'edict'; once Assad did, Obama - who had no intention of going to war over this and did not think he would have to - had no idea what to do. It was THEN that he went to 'the world' to try to bolster support from others to back HIS calling-out of Assad.... NO TAKERS.
Obama seeks to make up for his Syrian/Assad Foreign Policy disaster, enters 'Proxy' War against Assad
- Obama is so determined to oust Assad that he supplies/arms/funds/trains Islamic Extremist 'rebels' that include ISIS
- Obama arms ISIS from Benghazi
- When asked about ISIS, Obama attempts to minimize them, calls them a 'JV Team'
- Since they are 'allies' against Assad and Obama is SO focused on Assad, Obama ignores ISIS move into Iraq, allows then un-opposed entry...and take-over of much of the country our military had liberated at great cost
- Obama spends US millions to train 6 (SIX) Syrian Rebels: 5 convert to ISIS, 1 is killed by Russia
Putin steps in to protect their 'loyal customer', Syria / Assad, under the 'story' that HE/Russia is taking over the fight against ISIS
- Russia builds an airbase in Syria, brings in fighters/bombers troops
- Putin initially declares 'No Fly Zone' over Syria, tells US to stay out (US was protecting Anti-Assad Rebels)
- Putin/Russia begin bombing US-supported Anti-Assad Rebels
- Iran 'joins the party' - sends in troops to Syria to fight anti-Assad 'rebels'
- Obama now in proxy war against Syria/Assad, Russia/Putin, and Iran.
- Obama eventually forced to abandon 'rebel' support...because there aren't many and being wiped out by Russia.
- Obama begins arming Kurds to fight ISIS and engages in pin-prick drone strikes
Obama orders 'no-boots-on-the-ground' boots on the ground in Iraq at / near Syrian border
Obama sets 'Rules of Engagement' in war against ISIS, forces other nations to comply
- ISIS Oil tankers and oil production facilities off limits; illegal oil industry supplies ISIS w/50% of its cash; without the cash they can not continue their 'war on Assad', and Obama wants to make sure this continues. The PROBLEM is ISIS kinda F*s Obama, uses part of that oil revenue to fund the recent attacks on Paris.
- US pilots report returning to base with 3/4 of their bombs because they can't get approval to strike ISIS targets - to include ISIS oil tankers
Post-Paris Attacks, France finally ignores Obama ROE - over 1,000 ISIS oil tankers destroyed in 3 days
- France reports ISIS oil production facilities, ISIS headquarters, and other key targets 'un-touched', begins to strike them
- Just reported Obama was giving ISIS 45-minute warning that French / allies were inbound to strike the, their oil tankers...Obama did not want to kill 'innocents'. (If you are driving trucks for terrorists who behead and burn people alive you aren't innocent)
In a relatively 'small' airspace (in and around Syria) you have MULTIPLE nations, MULTIPLE coalitions, MULTIPLE agendas, and MULTIPLE militaries, NOT all working together...you also have national borders relatively close to each other....
- Putin had declared a no-fly zone over Syria but relaxed that; allowed France - after Paris attacks - to bomb ISIS stronghold / HQ and oil Tankers in Syria...even joined in.
- Britain has asked Russia to join France in bombing critical ISIS targets ignored/protected by Obama
NOW Turkey has shot down a Russian bomber....
- This is a big deal because several days ago Russia released evidence showing that Turkey - a NATO Member - had been accepting / buying ISIS Oil, virtually helping fund ISIS activities. Bombing the ISIS tankers stops the flow of ill-gotten oil into Turkey.
- Putin accuses Turkey of deliberately shooting down their bomber and basically accuses NATO of supporting / protecting and/or being an 'ALLY' of ISIS
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Obama so 'desperate' to take down Assad he is 'in bed' with terrorists / ISIS; has been protecting ISIS targets and their ability to keep funding their operations...even after the Paris attacks AND their promise to attack the US.....fighting a proxy war with Syria...and Russia and Iran
Syria, Russia, and Iran targeting and destroying anti-Assad Rebels...fighting the proxy war against Obama - defeated Obama in that proxy war, targeting ISIS, and exposed NATO's / Turkey's 'aiding and abetting ISIS)....
Turkey and Russia about to go toe-to-toe, risking dragging NATO into the conflict
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...and ALL THIS HUGE CLUSTERFARK STARTED BY OBAMA STICKING HIS NOS OINTO SYRIA'S CIVIL WAR, ISSUING HIS 'RED LINE', COWARDLY BACKING AWAY FROM IT, AND NOW BEING OBSESSED WITH REDEEMING HIMSELF BY OUSTING ASSAD....
Obama's RED LINE resulted in:
- Gun running to ISIS in Benghazi, resulting in 4 Americans dead, to include Ambassador Stevens
- Rise of ISIS in Syria...spreading globally
- Un-Opposed ISIS invasion of Iraq
- THOUSANDS of men, women, & children slaughtered by ISIS in Iraq
- Allied pilot being burned alive by ISIS
- Syrian-Russian-Iran alliance
- Failed attempt to wage a proxy war by Obama
- Millions wasted on supplying, arming, and training 5 new ISIS recruits
- Paris attacks, funded by ISIS oil program that was protected by Obama
- This huge multi-national 'clusterfark' of conflicting interests, agendas, military goals, and conflict centered on Syria
Link: Putin: Downing Of Jet A 'Stab In The Back'
LINK: Washington Post: Obama to Blame for Syrian Catastrophe
LINK: Links between Turkey and ISIS are now 'undeniable' - Business Insider
LINK: White House Gave ISIS 45 Minute Warning Before Bombing Oil Tankers
LINK: US military pilots complain hands tied in ‘frustrating’ fight against ISIS | Fox News
LINK: Watch: Dem Reveals Startling Connection Between Obama And Islamic Extremists - He WON'T Want This Out There
LOLHey, let's give our 'Moderate Friends' some more Taxpayer money & weapons. Sound good?
Video: “Moderate Rebels” Celebrate Death Of Russian Pilot With Chants Of “Allahu Akbar”
Obama arms Mexican Drug Cartels....
Obama arms ISIS...
Obama wants to DISarm Americans...
We should be doing more than reconsidering who we call our 'friends'... people should be wondering about the guy we call 'President'... IMHO...
Your timelines is not correct. It was late summer 2013 when Assad allegedly used gas again. The US was preparing to strike when SoS Kerry offer Syria a lifeline, and they accepted the offer. Benghazi was a year earlier.
ISIS is one of the result of the Monumental Strategic blunder of invading and occupying Iraq. Not so much invading and deposing Saddam but the chaos of the failed occupation.
...but Bush had nothing to do with Syria's civil war, Obama's stupid decision to intervene without cause, or Obama's even MORE stupid decision to issue a 'Red line' challenge to Assad.
"Boots on the ground" in Syria means a ten year occupation.
"Syrian-ISIS Quagmire; Crisis Rooted In Ego and Failed Foreign Policy"
True – the hubris of the GWB administration and its failed, illegal invasion of Iraq, which destabilized the entire Region.
And today we have many on the right who advocate for that same failed foreign policy strategy, and to send American conventional military ground forces into that quagmire.
Your timelines is not correct. It was late summer 2013 when Assad allegedly used gas again. The US was preparing to strike when SoS Kerry offer Syria a lifeline, and they accepted the offer. Benghazi was a year earlier.
So you're saying Obama basically aided the perpetrators of 9/11/01 take over their own country for no real reason (none that benefitted the US) and turned into a disaster....got it.
ISIS is one of the result of the Monumental Strategic blunder of invading and occupying Iraq. Not so much invading and deposing Saddam but the chaos of the failed occupation.
You Obama Apologists keep trying to claim that Syria is 'B...b...b...Buuuussshhh's Fault'
To quote / paraphrase the movie 'Top Gun', Obama's mouth / ego wrote a check his ass couldn't cash by issuing that 'Red Line'. He honestly did not thing Assad would 'dare' disobey / challenge him with the use of chemical weapons again, and when it happened Obama did not have a frickin' clue as what to do.
He did not have a coalition in his back pocket ready to join him against Assad for darng to cross HIS red Line. He was stuck out there in the wind all alone tuggin' on his willie. When he realized that was the case he tried to blame 'the world', calling it THEIR 'Red Line'. this was a classic Obama Foreign Policy F* Up caused solely by his own ego and inexperience!
Could one of the lovers of Saddam, the Butcher of Baghdad, please esplain to me why you think he stabilized the ME? Please?
His war with Iran?
His war with Kuwait?
His use of WMD against the Kurds?
His funding of suicide bombers?
His threats against a US president?
His sons rape rooms?
Him living in opulence while right outside his people live in poverty, kinda like Obama.
He actually did keep Iran somewhat in check. He gassed the hell out of them a few times ,and his military did well against them. I think his huge lie about having tons of WMD was a bluff designed for Iran, one that he carried too far.Could one of the lovers of Saddam, the Butcher of Baghdad, please esplain to me why you think he stabilized the ME? Please?
His war with Iran?
His war with Kuwait?
His use of WMD against the Kurds?
His funding of suicide bombers?
His threats against a US president?
His sons rape rooms?
Him living in opulence while right outside his people live in poverty, kinda like Obama.
