Target CEO raves about the US economy

[sealybobo]

For all the talk we've heard from the big government lovers that the tax cuts were for the rich and didn't help the middle class, how is it that the middle class has all of this money to spend?

Target CEO raves about the US economy: This is the best consumer environment I've ever seen

If the economy is so great why is anyone working at target? How much do the workers make? How much more does the ceo make than the average worker?

Good point

Trumps plan was to make it a workers market. Target should be stealing good Walmart workers with higher wages because they can’t find good help.

I heard these places make their workers sign a no compete so a Burger King employee can’t go work for McDonald. I hear they are getting rid of those non competes. I hope they do. That’s not free market

A non compete for working at Burger King?
I've never heard of such a thing.
Do you have a link?

State attorneys general want to know more about fast-food 'no poach' and noncompete agreements

Some of the nation's biggest fast-food operatorsmight have so-called "no-poach" agreements that stifle workers' chances to move to higher-paying jobs, attorneys general from 11 states and the District of Columbia indicated Monday.

No-poach agreements prevent franchisees from hiring workers away from one another. Non-compete agreements prevent employees from working for competitors after they leave.

"These agreements can exploit low-wage workers who are most in need of job protections,” said Robert Asaro-Angelo, New Jersey labor commissioner.

The practices recently have come under scrutiny. Some economists think they give employers more control over the labor market, preventing workers from jumping to higher-paying jobs and keeping wages artificially depressed.

 

[sealybobo]

For all the talk we've heard from the big government lovers that the tax cuts were for the rich and didn't help the middle class, how is it that the middle class has all of this money to spend?

Target CEO raves about the US economy: This is the best consumer environment I've ever seen

If the economy is so great why is anyone working at target? How much do the workers make? How much more does the ceo make than the average worker?

Good point

Trumps plan was to make it a workers market. Target should be stealing good Walmart workers with higher wages because they can’t find good help.

I heard these places make their workers sign a no compete so a Burger King employee can’t go work for McDonald. I hear they are getting rid of those non competes. I hope they do. That’s not free market

A non compete for working at Burger King?
I've never heard of such a thing.
Do you have a link?

Yeah, it sounds like bull shit. Even as a Walmart manager I did not have to sign any such a thing.


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I will expect an apology and you can admit you talk shit about things which you know nothing about.

Some of the nation's biggest fast-food operatorsmight have so-called "no-poach" agreements that stifle workers' chances to move to higher-paying jobs, attorneys general from 11 states and the District of Columbia indicated Monday.

No-poach agreements prevent franchisees from hiring workers away from one another. Non-compete agreements prevent employees from working for competitors after they leave.

"These agreements can exploit low-wage workers who are most in need of job protections,” said Robert Asaro-Angelo, New Jersey labor commissioner.

The practices recently have come under scrutiny. Some economists think they give employers more control over the labor market, preventing workers from jumping to higher-paying jobs and keeping wages artificially depressed.

 

[sealybobo]

I’m a venture capitalist, real estate investor and business owner...FUCK YES I got a raise. My portfolio is off the charts in every column by every metric.

We know bud...you hate success stories and successful people. Trust me, we know.

No, you got me all wrong. I love reading fan fiction on these sites! You people make up the best stories!

I will believe who he says he is. I’m glad there are some rich folk here to tell you why you should vote for the party that benefits him not you.

He votes. You poor people would win if you were smart enough to vote democratic every two years until labor started sharing some of the profits.

My success is not dependent upon which party sits in the Oval Office. Successful people perpetuate their own success, the POTUS doesn’t do that for us. I can’t for the life of me understand why Democrats don’t realize that. Is it easier on ones mind when he/she convinces themself that he/she isn’t in control of their own destiny? Ask blacks how voting Dem has helped them out.
Tell us, how has voting Democrat benefited you? Be specific.

Ok, so Dems were on the side of Unions. You know what Unions are? They fight for workers. And Michigan boomed from the 40s till the GOP and Corporations broke the unions by sending their jobs overseas. Now you want to bring those jobs back home for $15hr. Well people who are struggling will take whatever it is you give them. But you haven't made America great again. Not for Michigan Middle class. They're doing a little better now with Trump's big tax break but most of the gains went to the people at the top. A lot of people are sick of hearing about raises and higher wages because they haven't gotten a raise. Have you? Don't tell me about your 401K. Did you get a raise?

And as union membership declined, so did the middle class. Now lets see you and Trump produce a middle class like liberals did. New Deal, Unions, Labor Laws. Show us the money!!!

 

[Cellblock2429]

For all the talk we've heard from the big government lovers that the tax cuts were for the rich and didn't help the middle class, how is it that the middle class has all of this money to spend?

Target CEO raves about the US economy: This is the best consumer environment I've ever seen

We are adding personal debt at near record levels. In the time of a booming economy people should be saving, not adding debt.

Instead savings is staying the same and debt is going up.

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/---/ It's an old complaint. How do they define savings, passbook account, stock market, collectible coins, precious metals, antiques or real estate??? If they only look at passbook savings accounts of course it's low. they pay 2.5% at best.

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

For all the talk we've heard from the big government lovers that the tax cuts were for the rich and didn't help the middle class, how is it that the middle class has all of this money to spend?

Target CEO raves about the US economy: This is the best consumer environment I've ever seen

We are adding personal debt at near record levels. In the time of a booming economy people should be saving, not adding debt.

Instead savings is staying the same and debt is going up.

View attachment 212514

And who's fault is that?

 

[sealybobo]

We know bud...you hate success stories and successful people. Trust me, we know.

No, you got me all wrong. I love reading fan fiction on these sites! You people make up the best stories!

I will believe who he says he is. I’m glad there are some rich folk here to tell you why you should vote for the party that benefits him not you.

He votes. You poor people would win if you were smart enough to vote democratic every two years until labor started sharing some of the profits.

My success is not dependent upon which party sits in the Oval Office. Successful people perpetuate their own success, the POTUS doesn’t do that for us. I can’t for the life of me understand why Democrats don’t realize that. Is it easier on ones mind when he/she convinces themself that he/she isn’t in control of their own destiny? Ask blacks how voting Dem has helped them out.
Tell us, how has voting Democrat benefited you? Be specific.

Fucking hilarious! This thread is filled with “conservatives” talking about how Trump has made their lives so much better and not a peep from you to them.

You sheep are some loyal folks, that’s for sure!


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I don’t think your simple little mind will allow you to understand.
Trump HAS made the lives of GOOD Americans better in many ways, who said he hasn’t?
I made the point, the POTUS doesn’t have control of MY checking account like some of you believe he does or should. I haven’t received any EFT’s from the White House.
My guess is that your life has only been positively affected since Trump swore in...your feelings are hurt because he talks “mean” and he hates the degenerate weirdos and illegal filth you love so much but you’re doing better and you know it.

Our lives got better when Obama took office too. He slowly but surely got us out of Bush's recession and handed Trump a good economy. The tax break to the rich wasn't necessary but it did produce a temporary bump. 70% of it went to buying back stocks and CEO bonus' but I guess it's trickling down. I just made a $50K sale to the military. Isn't that sort of socialism? Who's going to pay me? The American people. That's not really free market capitalism is it? That's government spending. But they're spending it with my private company so in a way isn't this a stimulus? Government pumping money into the economy???

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

For all the talk we've heard from the big government lovers that the tax cuts were for the rich and didn't help the middle class, how is it that the middle class has all of this money to spend?

Target CEO raves about the US economy: This is the best consumer environment I've ever seen

If the economy is so great why is anyone working at target? How much do the workers make? How much more does the ceo make than the average worker?

Good point

Trumps plan was to make it a workers market. Target should be stealing good Walmart workers with higher wages because they can’t find good help.

I heard these places make their workers sign a no compete so a Burger King employee can’t go work for McDonald. I hear they are getting rid of those non competes. I hope they do. That’s not free market

A non compete for working at Burger King?
I've never heard of such a thing.
Do you have a link?

State attorneys general want to know more about fast-food 'no poach' and noncompete agreements

Some of the nation's biggest fast-food operatorsmight have so-called "no-poach" agreements that stifle workers' chances to move to higher-paying jobs, attorneys general from 11 states and the District of Columbia indicated Monday.

No-poach agreements prevent franchisees from hiring workers away from one another. Non-compete agreements prevent employees from working for competitors after they leave.

"These agreements can exploit low-wage workers who are most in need of job protections,” said Robert Asaro-Angelo, New Jersey labor commissioner.

The practices recently have come under scrutiny. Some economists think they give employers more control over the labor market, preventing workers from jumping to higher-paying jobs and keeping wages artificially depressed.

Thats fucked up!!

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

For all the talk we've heard from the big government lovers that the tax cuts were for the rich and didn't help the middle class, how is it that the middle class has all of this money to spend?

Target CEO raves about the US economy: This is the best consumer environment I've ever seen

If the economy is so great why is anyone working at target? How much do the workers make? How much more does the ceo make than the average worker?

Good point

Trumps plan was to make it a workers market. Target should be stealing good Walmart workers with higher wages because they can’t find good help.

I heard these places make their workers sign a no compete so a Burger King employee can’t go work for McDonald. I hear they are getting rid of those non competes. I hope they do. That’s not free market

A non compete for working at Burger King?
I've never heard of such a thing.
Do you have a link?

State attorneys general want to know more about fast-food 'no poach' and noncompete agreements

Some of the nation's biggest fast-food operatorsmight have so-called "no-poach" agreements that stifle workers' chances to move to higher-paying jobs, attorneys general from 11 states and the District of Columbia indicated Monday.

No-poach agreements prevent franchisees from hiring workers away from one another. Non-compete agreements prevent employees from working for competitors after they leave.

"These agreements can exploit low-wage workers who are most in need of job protections,” said Robert Asaro-Angelo, New Jersey labor commissioner.

The practices recently have come under scrutiny. Some economists think they give employers more control over the labor market, preventing workers from jumping to higher-paying jobs and keeping wages artificially depressed.

These agreements are for the most part unenforceable. My first job after college was with a large consulting firm on Wall Street; I had to sign one. I consulted an attorney who laughed and said, and I'm quoting, "slavery was outlawed a long time ago".

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

No, you got me all wrong. I love reading fan fiction on these sites! You people make up the best stories!

I will believe who he says he is. I’m glad there are some rich folk here to tell you why you should vote for the party that benefits him not you.

He votes. You poor people would win if you were smart enough to vote democratic every two years until labor started sharing some of the profits.

My success is not dependent upon which party sits in the Oval Office. Successful people perpetuate their own success, the POTUS doesn’t do that for us. I can’t for the life of me understand why Democrats don’t realize that. Is it easier on ones mind when he/she convinces themself that he/she isn’t in control of their own destiny? Ask blacks how voting Dem has helped them out.
Tell us, how has voting Democrat benefited you? Be specific.

Fucking hilarious! This thread is filled with “conservatives” talking about how Trump has made their lives so much better and not a peep from you to them.

You sheep are some loyal folks, that’s for sure!


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I don’t think your simple little mind will allow you to understand.
Trump HAS made the lives of GOOD Americans better in many ways, who said he hasn’t?
I made the point, the POTUS doesn’t have control of MY checking account like some of you believe he does or should. I haven’t received any EFT’s from the White House.
My guess is that your life has only been positively affected since Trump swore in...your feelings are hurt because he talks “mean” and he hates the degenerate weirdos and illegal filth you love so much but you’re doing better and you know it.

Our lives got better when Obama took office too. He slowly but surely got us out of Bush's recession and handed Trump a good economy. The tax break to the rich wasn't necessary but it did produce a temporary bump. 70% of it went to buying back stocks and CEO bonus' but I guess it's trickling down. I just made a $50K sale to the military. Isn't that sort of socialism? Who's going to pay me? The American people. That's not really free market capitalism is it? That's government spending. But they're spending it with my private company so in a way isn't this a stimulus? Government pumping money into the economy???

My life changed in no way.. no more than did it when Trump was elected.

 

[EvilCat Breath]

The economy is what the left wants to destroy.

 

[ColonelAngus]

No, you got me all wrong. I love reading fan fiction on these sites! You people make up the best stories!

I will believe who he says he is. I’m glad there are some rich folk here to tell you why you should vote for the party that benefits him not you.

He votes. You poor people would win if you were smart enough to vote democratic every two years until labor started sharing some of the profits.

My success is not dependent upon which party sits in the Oval Office. Successful people perpetuate their own success, the POTUS doesn’t do that for us. I can’t for the life of me understand why Democrats don’t realize that. Is it easier on ones mind when he/she convinces themself that he/she isn’t in control of their own destiny? Ask blacks how voting Dem has helped them out.
Tell us, how has voting Democrat benefited you? Be specific.

Fucking hilarious! This thread is filled with “conservatives” talking about how Trump has made their lives so much better and not a peep from you to them.

You sheep are some loyal folks, that’s for sure!


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I don’t think your simple little mind will allow you to understand.
Trump HAS made the lives of GOOD Americans better in many ways, who said he hasn’t?
I made the point, the POTUS doesn’t have control of MY checking account like some of you believe he does or should. I haven’t received any EFT’s from the White House.
My guess is that your life has only been positively affected since Trump swore in...your feelings are hurt because he talks “mean” and he hates the degenerate weirdos and illegal filth you love so much but you’re doing better and you know it.

Our lives got better when Obama took office too. He slowly but surely got us out of Bush's recession and handed Trump a good economy. The tax break to the rich wasn't necessary but it did produce a temporary bump. 70% of it went to buying back stocks and CEO bonus' but I guess it's trickling down. I just made a $50K sale to the military. Isn't that sort of socialism? Who's going to pay me? The American people. That's not really free market capitalism is it? That's government spending. But they're spending it with my private company so in a way isn't this a stimulus? Government pumping money into the economy???

True wealth for a nation comes from money outside of the taxpayers.

Exporting goods and services to foreign countries.

It is impossible to tax into prosperity. It’s mathematically impossible.

Tax revenues increased significantly when Reagan cut taxes.

The Federal Government is at least twice as big as it should be.

 

[BrokeLoser]

We know bud...you hate success stories and successful people. Trust me, we know.

No, you got me all wrong. I love reading fan fiction on these sites! You people make up the best stories!

I will believe who he says he is. I’m glad there are some rich folk here to tell you why you should vote for the party that benefits him not you.

He votes. You poor people would win if you were smart enough to vote democratic every two years until labor started sharing some of the profits.

My success is not dependent upon which party sits in the Oval Office. Successful people perpetuate their own success, the POTUS doesn’t do that for us. I can’t for the life of me understand why Democrats don’t realize that. Is it easier on ones mind when he/she convinces themself that he/she isn’t in control of their own destiny? Ask blacks how voting Dem has helped them out.
Tell us, how has voting Democrat benefited you? Be specific.

Ok, so Dems were on the side of Unions. You know what Unions are? They fight for workers. And Michigan boomed from the 40s till the GOP and Corporations broke the unions by sending their jobs overseas. Now you want to bring those jobs back home for $15hr. Well people who are struggling will take whatever it is you give them. But you haven't made America great again. Not for Michigan Middle class. They're doing a little better now with Trump's big tax break but most of the gains went to the people at the top. A lot of people are sick of hearing about raises and higher wages because they haven't gotten a raise. Have you? Don't tell me about your 401K. Did you get a raise?

And as union membership declined, so did the middle class. Now lets see you and Trump produce a middle class like liberals did. New Deal, Unions, Labor Laws. Show us the money!!!

You’re failing to realize that “Unions” ship sailed a long time ago and it wasn’t Republicans that set it sailing. It was your Democrats inviting all the low iQ, thirdworld filth to settle here. These people are willing to live like the human cockroaches they are, they have no standards, they’ll work for nothing and they won’t burden employers will all that expectation of wages and conditions crap. ‘Unions’ can’t compete with all the rat companies hiring thirdworld minded filth.
Again, like blacks, your beef should be with that Party you stand by as they fuck you silly and laugh at you while doing it.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

If the economy is so great why is anyone working at target? How much do the workers make? How much more does the ceo make than the average worker?

Good point

Trumps plan was to make it a workers market. Target should be stealing good Walmart workers with higher wages because they can’t find good help.

I heard these places make their workers sign a no compete so a Burger King employee can’t go work for McDonald. I hear they are getting rid of those non competes. I hope they do. That’s not free market

A non compete for working at Burger King?
I've never heard of such a thing.
Do you have a link?

Yeah, it sounds like bull shit. Even as a Walmart manager I did not have to sign any such a thing.


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I will expect an apology and you can admit you talk shit about things which you know nothing about.

Some of the nation's biggest fast-food operatorsmight have so-called "no-poach" agreements that stifle workers' chances to move to higher-paying jobs, attorneys general from 11 states and the District of Columbia indicated Monday.

No-poach agreements prevent franchisees from hiring workers away from one another. Non-compete agreements prevent employees from working for competitors after they leave.

"These agreements can exploit low-wage workers who are most in need of job protections,” said Robert Asaro-Angelo, New Jersey labor commissioner.

The practices recently have come under scrutiny. Some economists think they give employers more control over the labor market, preventing workers from jumping to higher-paying jobs and keeping wages artificially depressed.

Well, I'll be darned! I do apologize for assuming you were full of shit.

 

[sealybobo]

We know bud...you hate success stories and successful people. Trust me, we know.

No, you got me all wrong. I love reading fan fiction on these sites! You people make up the best stories!

I will believe who he says he is. I’m glad there are some rich folk here to tell you why you should vote for the party that benefits him not you.

He votes. You poor people would win if you were smart enough to vote democratic every two years until labor started sharing some of the profits.

My success is not dependent upon which party sits in the Oval Office. Successful people perpetuate their own success, the POTUS doesn’t do that for us. I can’t for the life of me understand why Democrats don’t realize that. Is it easier on ones mind when he/she convinces themself that he/she isn’t in control of their own destiny? Ask blacks how voting Dem has helped them out.
Tell us, how has voting Democrat benefited you? Be specific.

Ok, so Dems were on the side of Unions. You know what Unions are? They fight for workers. And Michigan boomed from the 40s till the GOP and Corporations broke the unions by sending their jobs overseas. Now you want to bring those jobs back home for $15hr. Well people who are struggling will take whatever it is you give them. But you haven't made America great again. Not for Michigan Middle class. They're doing a little better now with Trump's big tax break but most of the gains went to the people at the top. A lot of people are sick of hearing about raises and higher wages because they haven't gotten a raise. Have you? Don't tell me about your 401K. Did you get a raise?

And as union membership declined, so did the middle class. Now lets see you and Trump produce a middle class like liberals did. New Deal, Unions, Labor Laws. Show us the money!!!

You’re failing to realize that “Unions” ship sailed a long time ago and it wasn’t Republicans that set it sailing. It was your Democrats inviting all the low iQ, thirdworld filth to settle here. These people are willing to live like the human cockroaches they are, they have no standards, they’ll work for nothing and they won’t burden employers will all that expectation of wages and conditions crap. ‘Unions’ can’t compete with all the rat companies hiring thirdworld minded filth.
Again, like blacks, your beef should be with that Party you stand by as they fuck you silly and laugh at you while doing it.

My how things have changed in just over 10 years

Encouraging a rapid increase in the workforce by encouraging companies to hire non-citizens is one of the three most potent tools conservatives since Ronald Reagan have used to convert the American middle class into the American working poor. (The other two are destroying the governmental protections that keep labor unions viable, and ending tariffs while promoting trade deals like NAFTA/WTO/GATT that export manufacturing jobs.)

The reality is that we don't have an "Illegal Immigration" problem in America. We have an "Illegal Employer" problem.

Before Reagan's presidency, an estimated million or so people a year came into the US from Mexico - and the same number, more or less, left the US for Mexico at the end of the agricultural harvest season. Very few stayed, because there weren't jobs for them.

Non-citizens didn't have access to the non-agricultural US job market, in large part because of the power of US labor unions (before Reagan 25% of the workforce was unionized; today the private workforce is about 7% unionized), and because companies were unwilling to risk having non-tax-deductible labor expenses on their books by hiring undocumented workers without valid Social Security numbers.

But Reagan put an end to that. His 1986 amnesty program, combined with his aggressive war on organized labor (begun in 1981), in effect told both employers and non-citizens that there would be few penalties and many rewards to increasing the US labor pool (and thus driving down wages) with undocumented immigrants. A million people a year continued to come across our southern border, but they stopped returning to Latin America every fall because instead of seasonal work they were able to find permanent jobs.

The magnet drawing them? Illegal Employers.

Reclaiming the Issues: "It's an Illegal Employer Problem"

 

[sealybobo]

Do you guys think Trump is the first one who wanted to build a wall?

Now even Bush is talking like the Republicans in the House of Representatives - time to "get tough" and give Halliburton a few hundred billion to build a fence.

This was written in 2006.

Since when did Republicans start hating illegals who were doing

 

[MarcATL]

For all the talk we've heard from the big government lovers that the tax cuts were for the rich and didn't help the middle class, how is it that the middle class has all of this money to spend?

Target CEO raves about the US economy: This is the best consumer environment I've ever seen

Do we know this guy's political affiliation and/or his relationship to the Trumpster?

It matters.

 

[sealybobo]

We know bud...you hate success stories and successful people. Trust me, we know.

No, you got me all wrong. I love reading fan fiction on these sites! You people make up the best stories!

I will believe who he says he is. I’m glad there are some rich folk here to tell you why you should vote for the party that benefits him not you.

He votes. You poor people would win if you were smart enough to vote democratic every two years until labor started sharing some of the profits.

My success is not dependent upon which party sits in the Oval Office. Successful people perpetuate their own success, the POTUS doesn’t do that for us. I can’t for the life of me understand why Democrats don’t realize that. Is it easier on ones mind when he/she convinces themself that he/she isn’t in control of their own destiny? Ask blacks how voting Dem has helped them out.
Tell us, how has voting Democrat benefited you? Be specific.

Ok, so Dems were on the side of Unions. You know what Unions are? They fight for workers. And Michigan boomed from the 40s till the GOP and Corporations broke the unions by sending their jobs overseas. Now you want to bring those jobs back home for $15hr. Well people who are struggling will take whatever it is you give them. But you haven't made America great again. Not for Michigan Middle class. They're doing a little better now with Trump's big tax break but most of the gains went to the people at the top. A lot of people are sick of hearing about raises and higher wages because they haven't gotten a raise. Have you? Don't tell me about your 401K. Did you get a raise?

And as union membership declined, so did the middle class. Now lets see you and Trump produce a middle class like liberals did. New Deal, Unions, Labor Laws. Show us the money!!!

You’re failing to realize that “Unions” ship sailed a long time ago and it wasn’t Republicans that set it sailing. It was your Democrats inviting all the low iQ, thirdworld filth to settle here. These people are willing to live like the human cockroaches they are, they have no standards, they’ll work for nothing and they won’t burden employers will all that expectation of wages and conditions crap. ‘Unions’ can’t compete with all the rat companies hiring thirdworld minded filth.
Again, like blacks, your beef should be with that Party you stand by as they fuck you silly and laugh at you while doing it.

Here is another op ed from liberal Thom Hartmann from 2006 explaining how your Republican party is divided on illegals. Half of you wanted them for the cheap labor, and half of you hated them because they were brown.

Today's Immigration Battle Corporatists vs. Racists (and Labor is Left Behind)

 

[MarcATL]

My how things have changed in just over 10 years

Encouraging a rapid increase in the workforce by encouraging companies to hire non-citizens is one of the three most potent tools conservatives since Ronald Reagan have used to convert the American middle class into the American working poor. (The other two are destroying the governmental protections that keep labor unions viable, and ending tariffs while promoting trade deals like NAFTA/WTO/GATT that export manufacturing jobs.)

The reality is that we don't have an "Illegal Immigration" problem in America. We have an "Illegal Employer" problem.

Before Reagan's presidency, an estimated million or so people a year came into the US from Mexico - and the same number, more or less, left the US for Mexico at the end of the agricultural harvest season. Very few stayed, because there weren't jobs for them.

Non-citizens didn't have access to the non-agricultural US job market, in large part because of the power of US labor unions (before Reagan 25% of the workforce was unionized; today the private workforce is about 7% unionized), and because companies were unwilling to risk having non-tax-deductible labor expenses on their books by hiring undocumented workers without valid Social Security numbers.

But Reagan put an end to that. His 1986 amnesty program, combined with his aggressive war on organized labor (begun in 1981), in effect told both employers and non-citizens that there would be few penalties and many rewards to increasing the US labor pool (and thus driving down wages) with undocumented immigrants. A million people a year continued to come across our southern border, but they stopped returning to Latin America every fall because instead of seasonal work they were able to find permanent jobs.

The magnet drawing them? Illegal Employers.

Reclaiming the Issues: "It's an Illegal Employer Problem"

Like I always say, Reagan was on of THEE WORST things to ever happen to this country.

 

[sealybobo]

For all the talk we've heard from the big government lovers that the tax cuts were for the rich and didn't help the middle class, how is it that the middle class has all of this money to spend?

Target CEO raves about the US economy: This is the best consumer environment I've ever seen

Do we know this guy's political affiliation and/or his relationship to the Trumpster?

It matters.

He's no doubt a Republican. Same for the Walmart execs who announced raises after the tax break. You know Trump asked them to do that in a very public way.

Again, show me how the Target employees have more money to spend. Show me the workers ranting about the great economy. Fuck the CEO. We know his bonus is all he cares about.

 

[sealybobo]

My how things have changed in just over 10 years

Encouraging a rapid increase in the workforce by encouraging companies to hire non-citizens is one of the three most potent tools conservatives since Ronald Reagan have used to convert the American middle class into the American working poor. (The other two are destroying the governmental protections that keep labor unions viable, and ending tariffs while promoting trade deals like NAFTA/WTO/GATT that export manufacturing jobs.)

The reality is that we don't have an "Illegal Immigration" problem in America. We have an "Illegal Employer" problem.

Before Reagan's presidency, an estimated million or so people a year came into the US from Mexico - and the same number, more or less, left the US for Mexico at the end of the agricultural harvest season. Very few stayed, because there weren't jobs for them.

Non-citizens didn't have access to the non-agricultural US job market, in large part because of the power of US labor unions (before Reagan 25% of the workforce was unionized; today the private workforce is about 7% unionized), and because companies were unwilling to risk having non-tax-deductible labor expenses on their books by hiring undocumented workers without valid Social Security numbers.

But Reagan put an end to that. His 1986 amnesty program, combined with his aggressive war on organized labor (begun in 1981), in effect told both employers and non-citizens that there would be few penalties and many rewards to increasing the US labor pool (and thus driving down wages) with undocumented immigrants. A million people a year continued to come across our southern border, but they stopped returning to Latin America every fall because instead of seasonal work they were able to find permanent jobs.

The magnet drawing them? Illegal Employers.

Reclaiming the Issues: "It's an Illegal Employer Problem"

Like I always say, Reagan was on of THEE WORST things to ever happen to this country.

It's when the corporations and rich started taking over the country. They made Carter a lame duck and Reagan actually colluded with the Iranians with the help of CIA director HW Bush to have them hold the hostages until after the election. Much like Trump colluded with Russia. Reagan never got caught so why should Trump? I mean, we know the Iran Contra scandal happened but the only one who got in any trouble was Ollie North and he ended up on Fox News.

And while Reagan was attacking workers, so was CEO's like Jack Welch from GE. He started firing 10% of his workforce every year no matter how good the company did. These assclowns basically broke the social contract with employees that unless we really screwed up, most people could expect to keep their job till they retire. People in Europe have better job security than we do now. They have unions, we hardly do anymore. The corporations have won. And they aren't done making themselves richer and us poorer. No. They've only just begun. Things seemed good Reagan's first year. He even saved my dad's job at Ford. He bailed out Ford when they were in trouble. I forget the details. If he didn't he may not have been re elected. I'm sure he would have preferred bankrupt and breaking the union but that wouldn't have won him Michigan. Anyways, the ill effects of reagan weren't felt till years later. We thought he was good but little did we know. I think we will find the same about Trump but like Reagan, cons will worship him still. The only one they don't worship is Bush. Proof he was the worst president ever. They never say that about Carter anymore because they know Bush is the new title holder of that.