Tax corporations like people

Yes the government taking 52% of business profits will fix everything.

26 Major Corporations Paid No Corporate Income Tax For The Last Four Years, Despite Making Billions In Profits

26 Major Corporations Paid No Taxes For The Last Four Years

Did any of them violate the tax code? Your issue is not with corporations, your issue is with the US tax code. That code was put in place by congress which has been controlled by democrats for most of the last 100 years.

Democrats in congress are who you should be bitching to.
 
That's a great idea! Then in two years or so we can all complain that those same corporations to whom we are providing tax breaks for hiring and manufacturing in the US aren't paying their fair share in taxes!
Why would we be doing that if we closed the loopholes.
 
That's a great idea! Then in two years or so we can all complain that those same corporations to whom we are providing tax breaks for hiring and manufacturing in the US aren't paying their fair share in taxes!
Why would we be doing that if we closed the loopholes.

you just don't get it. Corporations do not pay taxes, consumers pay taxes. If you cut out the tax deductions and exemptions given to oil companies then the price of fuel will go up. How will that help the economy?

If you make Walmart pay more taxes, they will have to raise their prices in order to stay in business. How would that help Walmart shoppers?
 
I am truly surprised at the number of posters here that do not understand this one simple fact:

corporations DO NOT PAY TAXES!

Corporations pass the cost of whatever taxes they are charged along to those that buy the goods and services provided by the corporation by RAISING THEIR PRICES! They are unlike all other people in that they can do this legally.

So far, I have been unable to pass my tax burden along to anyone.
 
That's a great idea! Then in two years or so we can all complain that those same corporations to whom we are providing tax breaks for hiring and manufacturing in the US aren't paying their fair share in taxes!
Why would we be doing that if we closed the loopholes.

you just don't get it. Corporations do not pay taxes, consumers pay taxes. If you cut out the tax deductions and exemptions given to oil companies then the price of fuel will go up. How will that help the economy?

If you make Walmart pay more taxes, they will have to raise their prices in order to stay in business. How would that help Walmart shoppers?

Damn!

You beat me to it!:clap2::clap2::clap2:
 
Why would we be doing that if we closed the loopholes.

you just don't get it. Corporations do not pay taxes, consumers pay taxes. If you cut out the tax deductions and exemptions given to oil companies then the price of fuel will go up. How will that help the economy?

If you make Walmart pay more taxes, they will have to raise their prices in order to stay in business. How would that help Walmart shoppers?

Damn!

You beat me to it!:clap2::clap2::clap2:

yes, but at least two of us get it.
 
That's a great idea! Then in two years or so we can all complain that those same corporations to whom we are providing tax breaks for hiring and manufacturing in the US aren't paying their fair share in taxes!
Why would we be doing that if we closed the loopholes.

You said, and I quote "provide subsidies to the ones who are based in the US, manufacture in the US and hire US workers". Corporate "subsidies" are provided through the tax code. Those subsidies are commonly called "loopholes". So your suggestion was to create a loophole, not close them. When, as a result of your loophole, the corporation that you wanted to benefit pays no taxes as a result, you will complain that they aren't paying their "fair share".
 
you just don't get it. Corporations do not pay taxes, consumers pay taxes. If you cut out the tax deductions and exemptions given to oil companies then the price of fuel will go up. How will that help the economy?

If you make Walmart pay more taxes, they will have to raise their prices in order to stay in business. How would that help Walmart shoppers?

Damn!

You beat me to it!:clap2::clap2::clap2:

yes, but at least two of us get it.

I learned that back in 1963! It is amazing how many people have never been educated on that fact.
 
you just don't get it. Corporations do not pay taxes, consumers pay taxes. If you cut out the tax deductions and exemptions given to oil companies then the price of fuel will go up. How will that help the economy?

If you make Walmart pay more taxes, they will have to raise their prices in order to stay in business. How would that help Walmart shoppers?

Damn!

You beat me to it!:clap2::clap2::clap2:

yes, but at least two of us get it.

I know I get it as well.

These idiots haven't a clue. Anytime companies have to pay more they pass it on to the consumer. Common Sense 101.
 
I disagree. We need to be internationally competitive, while working through methods like the 401k to see that the means of production are increasingly owned by all the workers. ;)
 
I am truly surprised at the number of posters here that do not understand this one simple fact:

corporations DO NOT PAY TAXES!

Corporations pass the cost of whatever taxes they are charged along to those that buy the goods and services provided by the corporation by RAISING THEIR PRICES! They are unlike all other people in that they can do this legally.

So far, I have been unable to pass my tax burden along to anyone.

That is bullshit.

On what basis are corporations taxed?
 
I disagree. We need to be internationally competitive, while working through methods like the 401k to see that the means of production are increasingly owned by all the workers. ;)

means of production owned by the workers------------socialism 101.

what you don't get is that really means owned by the government.
 
I disagree. We need to be internationally competitive, while working through methods like the 401k to see that the means of production are increasingly owned by all the workers. ;)

means of production owned by the workers------------socialism 101.

what you don't get is that really means owned by the government.

Nonsense. I'm talking about joint stock ownership. The broad ownership of productive capital is completely compatible with the rule of law. And what could be more in keeping with the rule of law than to make that labor which manages the means of production accountable to the holders of the capital?
 
you just don't get it. Corporations do not pay taxes, consumers pay taxes.
That depends on how your corporation is filed (Type-C or Type-S).

If you cut out the tax deductions and exemptions given to oil companies then the price of fuel will go up. How will that help the economy?

If you make Walmart pay more taxes, they will have to raise their prices in order to stay in business. How would that help Walmart shoppers?
There is no reason to give corporations that make billions of dollars a year, government subsidies or tax write-offs that an individual cannot get.
 
You said, and I quote "provide subsidies to the ones who are based in the US, manufacture in the US and hire US workers". Corporate "subsidies" are provided through the tax code. Those subsidies are commonly called "loopholes". So your suggestion was to create a loophole, not close them. When, as a result of your loophole, the corporation that you wanted to benefit pays no taxes as a result, you will complain that they aren't paying their "fair share".
The "subsidies" I'm referring to are incentives for company's to manufacture in the US; the "loopholes" I want closed, are the ones that allow a company to "off-shore" its profits so it cannot be taxed.

Corporations are required to pay taxes on their profits. But if the ship a portion of those profits to the Caymen Islands, they are not taxed and that is bullshit!
 
Corporations are one "persons" under International Uniform Commercial Code, which exist under Maritime/Admiralty Jurisdiction.

You can google UCC (Uniform Commercial Code) and look up the definitions in Article I or "person."

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You're talking about parallel systems of law and you don't' even know it. The Constitution does not apply to maritime (overseas/foreign) corporations.

(27) "Person" means an individual, corporation, business trust, estate, trust, partnership, limited liability company, association, joint venture, government, governmental subdivision, agency, or instrumentality, public corporation, or any other legal or commercial entity.

Uniform Commercial Code - Article 1

Until all of you, Libs and Conservs alike, understand that corporations operate under a jurisdiction outside and parallel to the Constitution, you HAVE NO IDEA WHAT YOU ARE FIGHTING.
 
Here's what's fucked about corporations and it's pretty obvious their activities are fraudulent. The majority of their income is in the US, yet they claim larger foreign profits and actually claim losses for this country.

Citigroup, whose 2005 "Plutonomy Memo" said that "the World is dividing into two blocs - the Plutonomy and the rest," had 42% of its 2011-12 revenue in North America (almost all U.S.) but declared a $5 billion U.S. loss and a $28 billion foreign profit.

Pfizer had 40% of its 2011-12 revenues in the U.S., but declared almost $7 billion in U.S. losses to go along with $31 billion in foreign profits. After the SEC questioned Pfizer in 2012 about four straight years of U.S. losses despite large worldwide incomes, the company went ahead and declared a fifth straight U.S. loss.

Bank of America may be the worst. CEO Brian Moynihan once lamented that nobody understood "how much good" his employees do. But his company, with a whopping 82% of its 2011-12 revenue in the U.S., declared $7 billion in U.S. losses and $10 billion in foreign profits.
And here's the rundown on a few others...

Abbott Labs had 42% of its sales in the U.S., but declared a loss in the U.S. along with $12 billion in foreign profits.
Baxter Labs had about 40% of its sales and assets in the U.S., but only 14% of its declared income.
Cisco had 50% of its sales in the U.S., but just 25% of its income.
Dell, with about a 50-50 split in US/foreign revenue, declared only 12% of its profits in the US.
Dow had 32% of its sales in the U.S., but declared a U.S. loss against foreign profits of over $5 billion.
DuPont listed 38% of sales and 67% of property in the U.S., but only 20% of income.
Honeywell had almost 60% of sales in US, but only 34% of its income.
Johnson & Johnson declared 44% of its sales and over half of its long-lived assets in the U.S., but only 32% of its income.
Microsoft claimed over half its sales in the US, but only about 20% of its income.
We need to put a stop to this shit!
 

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