Taxing the wealthy more will have little to no impact on your life or anyone around you

[francoHFW]

Where does the spending money come from? Sales tax? Social Security tax? FICA tax? Medicare tax?

No, spending comes from income taxes.

how is that the fault of the least wealthy?

taxes are taxes to the extent it reduces disposable income. what percentage is paid by the bottom quintile as a percentage of Income.

I never said it was their fault. The fault is our tax structure and politicians.

What percentage of income taxes are paid by the bottom quintile? Zero, none, zilch.

And it's not like I'm saying they should share an equal tax burden as our wealthy, but at least contribute something.

But Oh! Democrats realize poor people can't pay income taxes! Is that so? Then why didn't Democrats care when DumBama placed a sin tax on tobacco products---a product predominately used by the poor? Why didn't DumBama consider the plight of the poor when he came down on coal fired electric plants that are going to raise our electricity rates all for the sake of a cleaner greener country?

Oh well, for that they have the money I guess.

only the Right is disingenuous to claim Only income taxes are real taxes.

Brainwashed I tell ya lol...It's not just Obama coming down on coal btw...You should go to a reservation for cigs if you must kill yourself.

brainwashed about what? i believe in advancing fusion (an energy with a future) over fossil fuels, any day of the week.

I would be talking about Republican voters...

 

[Conservative65]

If capitalists wanted to socialize their costs, they wouldn't be capitalists.

Why not let you bleeding hearts support those unemployed instead of expecting others to do it?

Whose morals? You lefties constantly talk about not having morals shoved on you then shove yours when it suits you.

If people like you would show the compassion you claim you have by using your own money, government wouldn't be necessary in that realm. If you see a need, meet it. The government doesn't need to be involved if you truly care as much as you say you do.

Here's the fun thing.

You folks have no problem whatsoever in giving folks with more money than be counted in multiple life times, tax breaks, subsidies and contracts.

The Military/Oil/Industrial complex receives the highest amount of "Socialism" in the world.

The result is, over 55 thousand soldiers committed to foreign bases, a good amount of animosity from the world and huge deficits and debt at home.

And we do this for what? To assure that criminally insane and extremely greedy people continue to fleece tax payers while states which should be finding a way to sustain their own economies, instead, rely on the government for military contracts and oil subsidies?

And then? You folks complain about people displaced by this madness and call them "lazy".

It's amazing.

Once again, there are no oil subsidies. Oil companies get the same tax write-offs as any other company, and in fact, less than most companies.

Well yeah, there are..


Energy subsidies - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

US taxpayers subsidising world's biggest fossil fuel companies

The Government Is Still Spending Billions To Subsidize Fossil Fuels


Those aren't counting the military adventurism that protects "American Interests" in the Middle East. Namely Oil.

Well FactCheck disagrees with you:

Oil and Gas Company Tax Breaks

• By Emi Kolawole
• Posted on February 28, 2008

Oil Company Tax Breaks?

Both leading Democratic candidates have referred to tax breaks to oil companies:

Clinton, July 23, 2007: First of all, I have proposed a strategic energy fund that I would fund by taking away the tax break for the oil companies, which have gotten much greater under Bush and Cheney.

Obama, June 22, 2007: In the face of furious lobbying, Congress brushed aside incentives for the production of more renewable fuels in favor of more tax breaks for the oil and gas companies.

Both candidates are referring to H.R. 6, the 2005 energy bill that contained $14.3 billion in subsidies for energy companies. However, as we’ve reported numerous times, a vast majority of those subsidies (all but $2.8 billion) were for nuclear power, energy-efficient cars and buildings, and renewable fuels research. In addition, according to the nonpartisan Congressional Research Service, the tax changes in the 2005 energy bill produced a net tax increase for the oil and gas companies, as we’ve reported time and time again. They did get some breaks, but they had more taken away.

Oil and Gas Company Tax Breaks

You DO know we need to support nuke, and solar/wind etc, and we had to fight China and the EU on alternate or be FEQING PUB MORONS and out of an expanding industry ARGH! Big Oil gets all kinds of breaks for billions- with HUGE PROFITS. You miss half the story on the propaganda channel.

Here's one of you green energy hypocrites in action:

www.wind-watch.org/news/2015/09/17/green-mogul-opposed-wind-farm-off-marthas-vineyard-blasts-objectors-in-vermont/

 

[Brain357]

Creates government dependence, more need for welfare.

How can it create government dependence before anyone has become dependent on the government?

? Walmart for example pays so little that employees collect welfare. By paying so little walmart is creating government dependence and increasing the size of government. Meanwhile the waltons make billions each year not working. If they paid enough that employees were not on welfare it would decrease government dependence. Before you know it those people would probably want tax breaks.

How long have you been on this planet anyway?

For your information, minimum wage has always been that--minimum. So why focus on Walmart? Because you were told to focus on Walmart.

Walmart is no different than K-Mart, than Target, than Home Depot, than True Value Hardware, than any other entry level job. They all pay minimum wage.

When the left wants to brainwash people, they show you or tell you about the lowly shelf stocker at Walmart. Well soooorrrry. I'm sorry you didn't get an education or secure a trade, but that's not Walmart's fault.

What the left doesn't tell you is how well Walmart pays their managers, their warehouse people, their truck drivers, their office staff, everybody else but that floor washer you are so obsessed with.

Minimum wage is nothing new either. When I first got out into the workforce, minimum wage was $3.25 per hour. Yes, that was some years ago, but you still couldn't afford to support yourself. So what did we do if we were stuck at a minimum wage job? We worked more hours. We'd work 10 hour days plus the weekend if need be. If your job didn't offer weekend work, you found another job for the weekends. We would try to advance ourselves at the job we had. But what we didn't do is go on some welfare program because we had too much pride and welfare programs back then didn't pay anything.

Your rant has little to do with my point. Picked Walmart cause they are the largest employer. Like I said, paying so little increases government dependence.

Nope. Giving money to people that they haven't earned increases government dependence. You act as if Walmart is the legal guardian of its employees. It's not. Walmart is not responsible for the care and feeding of the people who work for it. No company is. The taxpayers aren't responsible either.

I'm saying if they paid enough that employees weren't on welfare the government would shrink. Instead the Waltons make billions not working and increase government dependence. Companies taking care of emloyees is the only way government will shrink. You must like big government.

 

[Brain357]

Creates government dependence, more need for welfare.

How can it create government dependence before anyone has become dependent on the government?

? Walmart for example pays so little that employees collect welfare. By paying so little walmart is creating government dependence and increasing the size of government. Meanwhile the waltons make billions each year not working. If they paid enough that employees were not on welfare it would decrease government dependence. Before you know it those people would probably want tax breaks.

How long have you been on this planet anyway?

For your information, minimum wage has always been that--minimum. So why focus on Walmart? Because you were told to focus on Walmart.

Walmart is no different than K-Mart, than Target, than Home Depot, than True Value Hardware, than any other entry level job. They all pay minimum wage.

When the left wants to brainwash people, they show you or tell you about the lowly shelf stocker at Walmart. Well soooorrrry. I'm sorry you didn't get an education or secure a trade, but that's not Walmart's fault.

What the left doesn't tell you is how well Walmart pays their managers, their warehouse people, their truck drivers, their office staff, everybody else but that floor washer you are so obsessed with.

Minimum wage is nothing new either. When I first got out into the workforce, minimum wage was $3.25 per hour. Yes, that was some years ago, but you still couldn't afford to support yourself. So what did we do if we were stuck at a minimum wage job? We worked more hours. We'd work 10 hour days plus the weekend if need be. If your job didn't offer weekend work, you found another job for the weekends. We would try to advance ourselves at the job we had. But what we didn't do is go on some welfare program because we had too much pride and welfare programs back then didn't pay anything.

Your rant has little to do with my point. Picked Walmart cause they are the largest employer. Like I said, paying so little increases government dependence.

So that's Walmart's fault and not the government?

Yes the Waltons make billions not workng and pay those who work for them so little they are on welfare.

 

[francoHFW]

Here's the fun thing.

You folks have no problem whatsoever in giving folks with more money than be counted in multiple life times, tax breaks, subsidies and contracts.

The Military/Oil/Industrial complex receives the highest amount of "Socialism" in the world.

The result is, over 55 thousand soldiers committed to foreign bases, a good amount of animosity from the world and huge deficits and debt at home.

And we do this for what? To assure that criminally insane and extremely greedy people continue to fleece tax payers while states which should be finding a way to sustain their own economies, instead, rely on the government for military contracts and oil subsidies?

And then? You folks complain about people displaced by this madness and call them "lazy".

It's amazing.

Once again, there are no oil subsidies. Oil companies get the same tax write-offs as any other company, and in fact, less than most companies.

Well yeah, there are..


Energy subsidies - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

US taxpayers subsidising world's biggest fossil fuel companies

The Government Is Still Spending Billions To Subsidize Fossil Fuels


Those aren't counting the military adventurism that protects "American Interests" in the Middle East. Namely Oil.

Well FactCheck disagrees with you:

Oil and Gas Company Tax Breaks

• By Emi Kolawole
• Posted on February 28, 2008

Oil Company Tax Breaks?

Both leading Democratic candidates have referred to tax breaks to oil companies:

Clinton, July 23, 2007: First of all, I have proposed a strategic energy fund that I would fund by taking away the tax break for the oil companies, which have gotten much greater under Bush and Cheney.

Obama, June 22, 2007: In the face of furious lobbying, Congress brushed aside incentives for the production of more renewable fuels in favor of more tax breaks for the oil and gas companies.

Both candidates are referring to H.R. 6, the 2005 energy bill that contained $14.3 billion in subsidies for energy companies. However, as we’ve reported numerous times, a vast majority of those subsidies (all but $2.8 billion) were for nuclear power, energy-efficient cars and buildings, and renewable fuels research. In addition, according to the nonpartisan Congressional Research Service, the tax changes in the 2005 energy bill produced a net tax increase for the oil and gas companies, as we’ve reported time and time again. They did get some breaks, but they had more taken away.

Oil and Gas Company Tax Breaks

You DO know we need to support nuke, and solar/wind etc, and we had to fight China and the EU on alternate or be FEQING PUB MORONS and out of an expanding industry ARGH! Big Oil gets all kinds of breaks for billions- with HUGE PROFITS. You miss half the story on the propaganda channel.

Here's one of you green energy hypocrites in action:

www.wind-watch.org/news/2015/09/17/green-mogul-opposed-wind-farm-off-marthas-vineyard-blasts-objectors-in-vermont/

zzzzzzzzzzzzzz Piffle for the chumps...

 

[Conservative65]

Once again, there are no oil subsidies. Oil companies get the same tax write-offs as any other company, and in fact, less than most companies.

Well yeah, there are..


Energy subsidies - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

US taxpayers subsidising world's biggest fossil fuel companies

The Government Is Still Spending Billions To Subsidize Fossil Fuels


Those aren't counting the military adventurism that protects "American Interests" in the Middle East. Namely Oil.

Well FactCheck disagrees with you:

Oil and Gas Company Tax Breaks

• By Emi Kolawole
• Posted on February 28, 2008

Oil Company Tax Breaks?

Both leading Democratic candidates have referred to tax breaks to oil companies:

Clinton, July 23, 2007: First of all, I have proposed a strategic energy fund that I would fund by taking away the tax break for the oil companies, which have gotten much greater under Bush and Cheney.

Obama, June 22, 2007: In the face of furious lobbying, Congress brushed aside incentives for the production of more renewable fuels in favor of more tax breaks for the oil and gas companies.

Both candidates are referring to H.R. 6, the 2005 energy bill that contained $14.3 billion in subsidies for energy companies. However, as we’ve reported numerous times, a vast majority of those subsidies (all but $2.8 billion) were for nuclear power, energy-efficient cars and buildings, and renewable fuels research. In addition, according to the nonpartisan Congressional Research Service, the tax changes in the 2005 energy bill produced a net tax increase for the oil and gas companies, as we’ve reported time and time again. They did get some breaks, but they had more taken away.

Oil and Gas Company Tax Breaks

You DO know we need to support nuke, and solar/wind etc, and we had to fight China and the EU on alternate or be FEQING PUB MORONS and out of an expanding industry ARGH! Big Oil gets all kinds of breaks for billions- with HUGE PROFITS. You miss half the story on the propaganda channel.

Here's one of you green energy hypocrites in action:

www.wind-watch.org/news/2015/09/17/green-mogul-opposed-wind-farm-off-marthas-vineyard-blasts-objectors-in-vermont/

zzzzzzzzzzzzzz Piffle for the chumps...

Didn't think you'd hold one of your own to any standard. That's typical for you lowlifes. Oppose something when it affects you but demand others do what you won't do.

 

[francoHFW]

Duped again.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

How can it create government dependence before anyone has become dependent on the government?

? Walmart for example pays so little that employees collect welfare. By paying so little walmart is creating government dependence and increasing the size of government. Meanwhile the waltons make billions each year not working. If they paid enough that employees were not on welfare it would decrease government dependence. Before you know it those people would probably want tax breaks.

How long have you been on this planet anyway?

For your information, minimum wage has always been that--minimum. So why focus on Walmart? Because you were told to focus on Walmart.

Walmart is no different than K-Mart, than Target, than Home Depot, than True Value Hardware, than any other entry level job. They all pay minimum wage.

When the left wants to brainwash people, they show you or tell you about the lowly shelf stocker at Walmart. Well soooorrrry. I'm sorry you didn't get an education or secure a trade, but that's not Walmart's fault.

What the left doesn't tell you is how well Walmart pays their managers, their warehouse people, their truck drivers, their office staff, everybody else but that floor washer you are so obsessed with.

Minimum wage is nothing new either. When I first got out into the workforce, minimum wage was $3.25 per hour. Yes, that was some years ago, but you still couldn't afford to support yourself. So what did we do if we were stuck at a minimum wage job? We worked more hours. We'd work 10 hour days plus the weekend if need be. If your job didn't offer weekend work, you found another job for the weekends. We would try to advance ourselves at the job we had. But what we didn't do is go on some welfare program because we had too much pride and welfare programs back then didn't pay anything.

Your rant has little to do with my point. Picked Walmart cause they are the largest employer. Like I said, paying so little increases government dependence.

So that's Walmart's fault and not the government?

Yes the Waltons make billions not workng and pay those who work for them so little they are on welfare.

Yeah, God forbid they work more hours to get off of welfare.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

How can it create government dependence before anyone has become dependent on the government?

? Walmart for example pays so little that employees collect welfare. By paying so little walmart is creating government dependence and increasing the size of government. Meanwhile the waltons make billions each year not working. If they paid enough that employees were not on welfare it would decrease government dependence. Before you know it those people would probably want tax breaks.

How long have you been on this planet anyway?

For your information, minimum wage has always been that--minimum. So why focus on Walmart? Because you were told to focus on Walmart.

Walmart is no different than K-Mart, than Target, than Home Depot, than True Value Hardware, than any other entry level job. They all pay minimum wage.

When the left wants to brainwash people, they show you or tell you about the lowly shelf stocker at Walmart. Well soooorrrry. I'm sorry you didn't get an education or secure a trade, but that's not Walmart's fault.

What the left doesn't tell you is how well Walmart pays their managers, their warehouse people, their truck drivers, their office staff, everybody else but that floor washer you are so obsessed with.

Minimum wage is nothing new either. When I first got out into the workforce, minimum wage was $3.25 per hour. Yes, that was some years ago, but you still couldn't afford to support yourself. So what did we do if we were stuck at a minimum wage job? We worked more hours. We'd work 10 hour days plus the weekend if need be. If your job didn't offer weekend work, you found another job for the weekends. We would try to advance ourselves at the job we had. But what we didn't do is go on some welfare program because we had too much pride and welfare programs back then didn't pay anything.

Your rant has little to do with my point. Picked Walmart cause they are the largest employer. Like I said, paying so little increases government dependence.

Nope. Giving money to people that they haven't earned increases government dependence. You act as if Walmart is the legal guardian of its employees. It's not. Walmart is not responsible for the care and feeding of the people who work for it. No company is. The taxpayers aren't responsible either.

I'm saying if they paid enough that employees weren't on welfare the government would shrink. Instead the Waltons make billions not working and increase government dependence. Companies taking care of emloyees is the only way government will shrink. You must like big government.

Yet you never answered when I made a fair comparison, so let's try this again:

If you need a lawn care company, do you choose the one that will cut your lawn for $45.00 per cut or the one that charges $75.00 per cut?

If you need the brakes on your car replaced, do you choose the garage that will do the job for $550.00 or do you choose the garage that charges $850.00?

If you need a new roof on your house, do you hire the roofers that will do the job for $4,500, or do you choose the company that will do it for $6,500?

Nobody (including yourself) will overpay people to do the work that others will do for much less money. So why should the Walton's overpay their employees? You don't overpay the companies you use! You go for the best price like we all do.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

If capitalists wanted to socialize their costs, they wouldn't be capitalists.

Why not let you bleeding hearts support those unemployed instead of expecting others to do it?

Whose morals? You lefties constantly talk about not having morals shoved on you then shove yours when it suits you.

If people like you would show the compassion you claim you have by using your own money, government wouldn't be necessary in that realm. If you see a need, meet it. The government doesn't need to be involved if you truly care as much as you say you do.

Here's the fun thing.

You folks have no problem whatsoever in giving folks with more money than be counted in multiple life times, tax breaks, subsidies and contracts.

The Military/Oil/Industrial complex receives the highest amount of "Socialism" in the world.

The result is, over 55 thousand soldiers committed to foreign bases, a good amount of animosity from the world and huge deficits and debt at home.

And we do this for what? To assure that criminally insane and extremely greedy people continue to fleece tax payers while states which should be finding a way to sustain their own economies, instead, rely on the government for military contracts and oil subsidies?

And then? You folks complain about people displaced by this madness and call them "lazy".

It's amazing.

Once again, there are no oil subsidies. Oil companies get the same tax write-offs as any other company, and in fact, less than most companies.

Well yeah, there are..


Energy subsidies - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

US taxpayers subsidising world's biggest fossil fuel companies

The Government Is Still Spending Billions To Subsidize Fossil Fuels


Those aren't counting the military adventurism that protects "American Interests" in the Middle East. Namely Oil.

Well FactCheck disagrees with you:

Oil and Gas Company Tax Breaks

• By Emi Kolawole
• Posted on February 28, 2008

Oil Company Tax Breaks?

Both leading Democratic candidates have referred to tax breaks to oil companies:

Clinton, July 23, 2007: First of all, I have proposed a strategic energy fund that I would fund by taking away the tax break for the oil companies, which have gotten much greater under Bush and Cheney.

Obama, June 22, 2007: In the face of furious lobbying, Congress brushed aside incentives for the production of more renewable fuels in favor of more tax breaks for the oil and gas companies.

Both candidates are referring to H.R. 6, the 2005 energy bill that contained $14.3 billion in subsidies for energy companies. However, as we’ve reported numerous times, a vast majority of those subsidies (all but $2.8 billion) were for nuclear power, energy-efficient cars and buildings, and renewable fuels research. In addition, according to the nonpartisan Congressional Research Service, the tax changes in the 2005 energy bill produced a net tax increase for the oil and gas companies, as we’ve reported time and time again. They did get some breaks, but they had more taken away.

Oil and Gas Company Tax Breaks

You DO know we need to support nuke, and solar/wind etc, and we had to fight China and the EU on alternate or be FEQING PUB MORONS and out of an expanding industry ARGH! Big Oil gets all kinds of breaks for billions- with HUGE PROFITS. You miss half the story on the propaganda channel.

I have two very reliable sources that say the exact same thing. Now if you want to prove me wrong, by all means, post your phony source such as Mother Jones or something.

So let's try this again "it is true that oil companies got more subsidies, but they had more taken away resulting in a net loss."

I would love to try and see you prove left-leaning FactCheck wrong.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Funny. It was only 10 trillion when DumBama took office with a Democrat Congress.

80% of Obama's is fixing the corrupt Booosh World Depression and helping its victims (STILL 400 billion a year). And not dumb at all.

DumBama couldn't fix a bicycle tire. Who are you trying to kid?

So you live on another planet...We have the best economy on this planet, with no corrupt Pub bubble/bust/scandal.

So you want to give DumBama credit for our economy? Fine with me. But in order to do that, you have to show what he did exactly to give him this credit.

He never did anything. All his attempts were failures such as Cash for Clunkers, the so-called Stimulus act, the reduction in SS contributions. All failures.

So what did happen? What happened is a reduction in fuel prices thanks to fracking which Democrats totally oppose. Over the last year and a half, Americans experienced a savings in fuel which helped families to pay other bills, save money, and yes, even make investments.

DumBama had nothing to do with that. In fact, drilling permits on public land were reduced by DumBama and gang.

Obama doesn't totally oppose fracking, just made it safer and kept it off our beautiful public lands. His stimulus worked great, but ran out in 2010. But we have the best economy in the world (with no corrupt Pub bubble), but many thanks to the new bs GOP causing phony debt ceiling crises and wrecking the world recovery as well as causing the need. It's now making faster progress despite the oil industry no longer expanding. WTH is the problem lol? Get off the gloom and doom , obstruction bs channel.

It's fracking and obstruction you have to thank for what little improvement we've had in our economy--not DumBama.

 

[francoHFW]

Here's the fun thing.

You folks have no problem whatsoever in giving folks with more money than be counted in multiple life times, tax breaks, subsidies and contracts.

The Military/Oil/Industrial complex receives the highest amount of "Socialism" in the world.

The result is, over 55 thousand soldiers committed to foreign bases, a good amount of animosity from the world and huge deficits and debt at home.

And we do this for what? To assure that criminally insane and extremely greedy people continue to fleece tax payers while states which should be finding a way to sustain their own economies, instead, rely on the government for military contracts and oil subsidies?

And then? You folks complain about people displaced by this madness and call them "lazy".

It's amazing.

Once again, there are no oil subsidies. Oil companies get the same tax write-offs as any other company, and in fact, less than most companies.

Well yeah, there are..


Energy subsidies - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

US taxpayers subsidising world's biggest fossil fuel companies

The Government Is Still Spending Billions To Subsidize Fossil Fuels


Those aren't counting the military adventurism that protects "American Interests" in the Middle East. Namely Oil.

Well FactCheck disagrees with you:

Oil and Gas Company Tax Breaks

• By Emi Kolawole
• Posted on February 28, 2008

Oil Company Tax Breaks?

Both leading Democratic candidates have referred to tax breaks to oil companies:

Clinton, July 23, 2007: First of all, I have proposed a strategic energy fund that I would fund by taking away the tax break for the oil companies, which have gotten much greater under Bush and Cheney.

Obama, June 22, 2007: In the face of furious lobbying, Congress brushed aside incentives for the production of more renewable fuels in favor of more tax breaks for the oil and gas companies.

Both candidates are referring to H.R. 6, the 2005 energy bill that contained $14.3 billion in subsidies for energy companies. However, as we’ve reported numerous times, a vast majority of those subsidies (all but $2.8 billion) were for nuclear power, energy-efficient cars and buildings, and renewable fuels research. In addition, according to the nonpartisan Congressional Research Service, the tax changes in the 2005 energy bill produced a net tax increase for the oil and gas companies, as we’ve reported time and time again. They did get some breaks, but they had more taken away.

Oil and Gas Company Tax Breaks

You DO know we need to support nuke, and solar/wind etc, and we had to fight China and the EU on alternate or be FEQING PUB MORONS and out of an expanding industry ARGH! Big Oil gets all kinds of breaks for billions- with HUGE PROFITS. You miss half the story on the propaganda channel.

I have two very reliable sources that say the exact same thing. Now if you want to prove me wrong, by all means, post your phony source such as Mother Jones or something.

So let's try this again "it is true that oil companies got more subsidies, but they had more taken away resulting in a net loss."

I would love to try and see you prove left-leaning FactCheck wrong.

Why the hell would they get MORE breaks?

 

[francoHFW]

80% of Obama's is fixing the corrupt Booosh World Depression and helping its victims (STILL 400 billion a year). And not dumb at all.

DumBama couldn't fix a bicycle tire. Who are you trying to kid?

So you live on another planet...We have the best economy on this planet, with no corrupt Pub bubble/bust/scandal.

So you want to give DumBama credit for our economy? Fine with me. But in order to do that, you have to show what he did exactly to give him this credit.

He never did anything. All his attempts were failures such as Cash for Clunkers, the so-called Stimulus act, the reduction in SS contributions. All failures.

So what did happen? What happened is a reduction in fuel prices thanks to fracking which Democrats totally oppose. Over the last year and a half, Americans experienced a savings in fuel which helped families to pay other bills, save money, and yes, even make investments.

DumBama had nothing to do with that. In fact, drilling permits on public land were reduced by DumBama and gang.

Obama doesn't totally oppose fracking, just made it safer and kept it off our beautiful public lands. His stimulus worked great, but ran out in 2010. But we have the best economy in the world (with no corrupt Pub bubble), but many thanks to the new bs GOP causing phony debt ceiling crises and wrecking the world recovery as well as causing the need. It's now making faster progress despite the oil industry no longer expanding. WTH is the problem lol? Get off the gloom and doom , obstruction bs channel.

It's fracking and obstruction you have to thank for what little improvement we've had in our economy--not DumBama.

Oil expansion has now ended and we're at 3.7% growth. What stalled the recovery was those shutdowns from the GOP for no reason, and of course blocking EVERY normal reform in a recession. They certainly screwed up the EU and China when THEY were in good shape a couple years ago too. US politics are all important, ya know. Stupid a-hole and their dupes...

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

DumBama couldn't fix a bicycle tire. Who are you trying to kid?

So you live on another planet...We have the best economy on this planet, with no corrupt Pub bubble/bust/scandal.

So you want to give DumBama credit for our economy? Fine with me. But in order to do that, you have to show what he did exactly to give him this credit.

He never did anything. All his attempts were failures such as Cash for Clunkers, the so-called Stimulus act, the reduction in SS contributions. All failures.

So what did happen? What happened is a reduction in fuel prices thanks to fracking which Democrats totally oppose. Over the last year and a half, Americans experienced a savings in fuel which helped families to pay other bills, save money, and yes, even make investments.

DumBama had nothing to do with that. In fact, drilling permits on public land were reduced by DumBama and gang.

Obama doesn't totally oppose fracking, just made it safer and kept it off our beautiful public lands. His stimulus worked great, but ran out in 2010. But we have the best economy in the world (with no corrupt Pub bubble), but many thanks to the new bs GOP causing phony debt ceiling crises and wrecking the world recovery as well as causing the need. It's now making faster progress despite the oil industry no longer expanding. WTH is the problem lol? Get off the gloom and doom , obstruction bs channel.

It's fracking and obstruction you have to thank for what little improvement we've had in our economy--not DumBama.

Oil expansion has now ended and we're at 3.7% growth. What stalled the recovery was those shutdowns from the GOP for no reason, and of course blocking EVERY normal reform in a recession. They certainly screwed up the EU and China when THEY were in good shape a couple years ago too. US politics are all important, ya know. Stupid a-hole and their dupes...

What GOP shutdown are you talking about?

Republicans blocked DumBama from wasting money such as he had with his so-called stimulus package that produced nothing. DumBama just wanted another one. The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over but expecting different results.

In the meantime, DumBama pushed and succeeded with an increase in corporate taxes, he succeeded with an increase in personal taxation for those making over $450,000 per year. He succeeded in passing Commie Care which is a major burden to our job creators. DumBama is the most anti-business President we've ever had in our lifetime.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Once again, there are no oil subsidies. Oil companies get the same tax write-offs as any other company, and in fact, less than most companies.

Well yeah, there are..


Energy subsidies - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

US taxpayers subsidising world's biggest fossil fuel companies

The Government Is Still Spending Billions To Subsidize Fossil Fuels


Those aren't counting the military adventurism that protects "American Interests" in the Middle East. Namely Oil.

Well FactCheck disagrees with you:

Oil and Gas Company Tax Breaks

• By Emi Kolawole
• Posted on February 28, 2008

Oil Company Tax Breaks?

Both leading Democratic candidates have referred to tax breaks to oil companies:

Clinton, July 23, 2007: First of all, I have proposed a strategic energy fund that I would fund by taking away the tax break for the oil companies, which have gotten much greater under Bush and Cheney.

Obama, June 22, 2007: In the face of furious lobbying, Congress brushed aside incentives for the production of more renewable fuels in favor of more tax breaks for the oil and gas companies.

Both candidates are referring to H.R. 6, the 2005 energy bill that contained $14.3 billion in subsidies for energy companies. However, as we’ve reported numerous times, a vast majority of those subsidies (all but $2.8 billion) were for nuclear power, energy-efficient cars and buildings, and renewable fuels research. In addition, according to the nonpartisan Congressional Research Service, the tax changes in the 2005 energy bill produced a net tax increase for the oil and gas companies, as we’ve reported time and time again. They did get some breaks, but they had more taken away.

Oil and Gas Company Tax Breaks

You DO know we need to support nuke, and solar/wind etc, and we had to fight China and the EU on alternate or be FEQING PUB MORONS and out of an expanding industry ARGH! Big Oil gets all kinds of breaks for billions- with HUGE PROFITS. You miss half the story on the propaganda channel.

I have two very reliable sources that say the exact same thing. Now if you want to prove me wrong, by all means, post your phony source such as Mother Jones or something.

So let's try this again "it is true that oil companies got more subsidies, but they had more taken away resulting in a net loss."

I would love to try and see you prove left-leaning FactCheck wrong.

Why the hell would they get MORE breaks?

They didn't. That's the point. But you leftists keep crying about all these special tax breaks for oil companies that don't exist.

 

[francoHFW]

So you live on another planet...We have the best economy on this planet, with no corrupt Pub bubble/bust/scandal.

So you want to give DumBama credit for our economy? Fine with me. But in order to do that, you have to show what he did exactly to give him this credit.

He never did anything. All his attempts were failures such as Cash for Clunkers, the so-called Stimulus act, the reduction in SS contributions. All failures.

So what did happen? What happened is a reduction in fuel prices thanks to fracking which Democrats totally oppose. Over the last year and a half, Americans experienced a savings in fuel which helped families to pay other bills, save money, and yes, even make investments.

DumBama had nothing to do with that. In fact, drilling permits on public land were reduced by DumBama and gang.

Obama doesn't totally oppose fracking, just made it safer and kept it off our beautiful public lands. His stimulus worked great, but ran out in 2010. But we have the best economy in the world (with no corrupt Pub bubble), but many thanks to the new bs GOP causing phony debt ceiling crises and wrecking the world recovery as well as causing the need. It's now making faster progress despite the oil industry no longer expanding. WTH is the problem lol? Get off the gloom and doom , obstruction bs channel.

It's fracking and obstruction you have to thank for what little improvement we've had in our economy--not DumBama.

Oil expansion has now ended and we're at 3.7% growth. What stalled the recovery was those shutdowns from the GOP for no reason, and of course blocking EVERY normal reform in a recession. They certainly screwed up the EU and China when THEY were in good shape a couple years ago too. US politics are all important, ya know. Stupid a-hole and their dupes...

What GOP shutdown are you talking about?

Republicans blocked DumBama from wasting money such as he had with his so-called stimulus package that produced nothing. DumBama just wanted another one. The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over but expecting different results.

In the meantime, DumBama pushed and succeeded with an increase in corporate taxes, he succeeded with an increase in personal taxation for those making over $450,000 per year. He succeeded in passing Commie Care which is a major burden to our job creators. DumBama is the most anti-business President we've ever had in our lifetime.

LOL. Stim worked great duh. You live on a strange planet. All those ridiculous debt ceiling crises- never happened before, so dumb- each caused 1%+ cut in GDP. O-Care has caused NO change in jobs. Link to those corporate taxes lol?

 

[francoHFW]

Well yeah, there are..


Energy subsidies - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

US taxpayers subsidising world's biggest fossil fuel companies

The Government Is Still Spending Billions To Subsidize Fossil Fuels


Those aren't counting the military adventurism that protects "American Interests" in the Middle East. Namely Oil.

Well FactCheck disagrees with you:

Oil and Gas Company Tax Breaks

• By Emi Kolawole
• Posted on February 28, 2008

Oil Company Tax Breaks?

Both leading Democratic candidates have referred to tax breaks to oil companies:

Clinton, July 23, 2007: First of all, I have proposed a strategic energy fund that I would fund by taking away the tax break for the oil companies, which have gotten much greater under Bush and Cheney.

Obama, June 22, 2007: In the face of furious lobbying, Congress brushed aside incentives for the production of more renewable fuels in favor of more tax breaks for the oil and gas companies.

Both candidates are referring to H.R. 6, the 2005 energy bill that contained $14.3 billion in subsidies for energy companies. However, as we’ve reported numerous times, a vast majority of those subsidies (all but $2.8 billion) were for nuclear power, energy-efficient cars and buildings, and renewable fuels research. In addition, according to the nonpartisan Congressional Research Service, the tax changes in the 2005 energy bill produced a net tax increase for the oil and gas companies, as we’ve reported time and time again. They did get some breaks, but they had more taken away.

Oil and Gas Company Tax Breaks

You DO know we need to support nuke, and solar/wind etc, and we had to fight China and the EU on alternate or be FEQING PUB MORONS and out of an expanding industry ARGH! Big Oil gets all kinds of breaks for billions- with HUGE PROFITS. You miss half the story on the propaganda channel.

I have two very reliable sources that say the exact same thing. Now if you want to prove me wrong, by all means, post your phony source such as Mother Jones or something.

So let's try this again "it is true that oil companies got more subsidies, but they had more taken away resulting in a net loss."

I would love to try and see you prove left-leaning FactCheck wrong.

Why the hell would they get MORE breaks?

They didn't. That's the point. But you leftists keep crying about all these special tax breaks for oil companies that don't exist.

That's the 2.5 billion a year we're talking about...

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[Political Junky]

It will only enable the government to spend more money on stupid ass senseless projects like shrimp on treadmills.
You stupid liberals will vote for it and see NONE OF IT. It will be blown on wasteful spending just like the vast majority of your taxes

I still wonder why poor folks are so desperate to protect the rich.

 

[Political Junky]

It will only enable the government to spend more money on stupid ass senseless projects like shrimp on treadmills.
You stupid liberals will vote for it and see NONE OF IT. It will be blown on wasteful spending just like the vast majority of your taxes

It should be used to pay off the debt. Those tax breaks for the rich sure didn't help the economy.

Says who? You?
I was easily making six figures prior to the crash. I won't claim that it was tax cuts that did it but it sure as hell wasn't something that carried over into Obama's administration.
You morons claim one thing but your only scape goat is the crash. The crash that was partially caused by Democratic policies. So desperate to help the poor that everyone paid the price.

Just look at how the economy has done, the evidence is clear.

Our economy crashed because of shady trading & financial practices. Partially thanks to people like Barney Frank and their bullshit "help the poor" policies.
The economy stayed in the shitter because we elected a fucking amatuer who knew NOTHING about economics & had the same God damn philosophy that got us there in the first place.

OMG, I'll be you really believe that shit.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

So you want to give DumBama credit for our economy? Fine with me. But in order to do that, you have to show what he did exactly to give him this credit.

He never did anything. All his attempts were failures such as Cash for Clunkers, the so-called Stimulus act, the reduction in SS contributions. All failures.

So what did happen? What happened is a reduction in fuel prices thanks to fracking which Democrats totally oppose. Over the last year and a half, Americans experienced a savings in fuel which helped families to pay other bills, save money, and yes, even make investments.

DumBama had nothing to do with that. In fact, drilling permits on public land were reduced by DumBama and gang.

Obama doesn't totally oppose fracking, just made it safer and kept it off our beautiful public lands. His stimulus worked great, but ran out in 2010. But we have the best economy in the world (with no corrupt Pub bubble), but many thanks to the new bs GOP causing phony debt ceiling crises and wrecking the world recovery as well as causing the need. It's now making faster progress despite the oil industry no longer expanding. WTH is the problem lol? Get off the gloom and doom , obstruction bs channel.

It's fracking and obstruction you have to thank for what little improvement we've had in our economy--not DumBama.

Oil expansion has now ended and we're at 3.7% growth. What stalled the recovery was those shutdowns from the GOP for no reason, and of course blocking EVERY normal reform in a recession. They certainly screwed up the EU and China when THEY were in good shape a couple years ago too. US politics are all important, ya know. Stupid a-hole and their dupes...

What GOP shutdown are you talking about?

Republicans blocked DumBama from wasting money such as he had with his so-called stimulus package that produced nothing. DumBama just wanted another one. The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over but expecting different results.

In the meantime, DumBama pushed and succeeded with an increase in corporate taxes, he succeeded with an increase in personal taxation for those making over $450,000 per year. He succeeded in passing Commie Care which is a major burden to our job creators. DumBama is the most anti-business President we've ever had in our lifetime.

LOL. Stim worked great duh. You live on a strange planet. All those ridiculous debt ceiling crises- never happened before, so dumb- each caused 1%+ cut in GDP. O-Care has caused NO change in jobs. Link to those corporate taxes lol?

Bull. I have multiple stories about facilities closing or laying off medical care workers because of Commie Care. Here in Cleveland, the Cleveland Clinic laid off over 3,000 workers alone.

The pork bill was no better. It mostly went to union oriented jobs. Where are all those new roads and bridges at? Even DumBama admitted that those "shovel ready jobs" were not shovel ready.

Your President didn't have the smarts to figure out you can't get the economy moving by focusing on certain sectors of our employment. If you want to get the economy going, it has to be widespread like what Reagan or Bush did. The closest he came to that was a reduction in our SS contributions. Brilliant. Put less money into a program already going broke.

But what do you expect? That's Democrat thinking for ya.