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It's not just the left...it's anyone who fears the status quo being attacked.
Big Government Cronies & Beneficiaries don't want the Gravy Hose to be shut off.
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It's not just the left...it's anyone who fears the status quo being attacked.
It's not just the left...it's anyone who fears the status quo being attacked.
Big Government Cronies & Beneficiaries don't want the Gravy Hose to be shut off.
The Tea Party is a tax revolt. There is one issue, taxes.
The Tea Party dot org website says otherwise.
15 Non-negotiable Core Beliefs
1. Illegal aliens are here illegally.
2. Pro-domestic employment is indispensable.
3. A strong military is essential.
4. Special interests must be eliminated.
5. Gun ownership is sacred.
6. Government must be downsized.
7. The national budget must be balanced.
8. Deficit spending must end.
9. Bailout and stimulus plans are illegal.
10. Reducing personal income taxes is a must.
11. Reducing business income taxes is mandatory.
12. Political offices must be available to average citizens.
13. Intrusive government must be stopped.
14. English as our core language is required.
15. Traditional family values are encouraged.
Hey dipwad, practically all of that directly relates to taxes!
You would think that a group that believe the government should follow the Constitution, reduce the national debt, lower taxes, reduce government waste and corruption and have fiscally responsible government..would be popular, instead their persecuted by the left and the left want-to-Be's....
The Tea Party is a tax revolt. There is one issue, taxes.
The Tea Party dot org website says otherwise.
15 Non-negotiable Core Beliefs
1. Illegal aliens are here illegally.
2. Pro-domestic employment is indispensable.
3. A strong military is essential.
4. Special interests must be eliminated.
5. Gun ownership is sacred.
6. Government must be downsized.
7. The national budget must be balanced.
8. Deficit spending must end.
9. Bailout and stimulus plans are illegal.
10. Reducing personal income taxes is a must.
11. Reducing business income taxes is mandatory.
12. Political offices must be available to average citizens.
13. Intrusive government must be stopped.
14. English as our core language is required.
15. Traditional family values are encouraged.
When the GOP hijacked the Tea Party, I made my exit. Teaparty.org does not represent the goals of the movement.
You would think that a group that believe the government should follow the Constitution, reduce the national debt, lower taxes, reduce government waste and corruption and have fiscally responsible government..would be popular, instead their persecuted by the left and the left want-to-Be's....
Every politically controlled educational system will inculcate the doctrine of state supremacy sooner or later. . . . Once that doctrine has been accepted, it becomes an almost superhuman task to break the stranglehold of the political power over the life of the citizen. It has had his body, property and mind in its clutches from infancy. An octopus would sooner release its prey. A tax-supported, compulsory educational system is the complete model of the totalitarian state.
–Isabel Paterson, The God of the Machine (1943)
I can certainly respect that.
But again, as much as you and Foxfyre might agree politically, from where I'm sitting you each have your own, and somewhat different, view of what the movement is all about. I'm not picking sides or saying anyone is right or wrong, it's just one of the more interesting political topics to come along in some time. And one of the best ways I know to discuss anything meaningfully is to ask probing questions that challenge what I or anyone else believes that they "know".
This is the first I'm hearing about Tea Party rallies pre-dating Obama.
Is there any way to confirm this, for my own selfish edification?
I can certainly respect that.
But again, as much as you and Foxfyre might agree politically, from where I'm sitting you each have your own, and somewhat different, view of what the movement is all about. I'm not picking sides or saying anyone is right or wrong, it's just one of the more interesting political topics to come along in some time. And one of the best ways I know to discuss anything meaningfully is to ask probing questions that challenge what I or anyone else believes that they "know".
That makes sense.
Foxy is a Republican, I'm a Libertarian; there are bound to be some differences. And I have a strong bias, to me the definition of the Tea Party is the handful that I attended in 2007-08, protesting BUSH and McCain (and Schwarzenegger!) I know that they have changed to an extent, but the core principle of holding the line on new taxes, and demanding that spending be cut is what I see the Tea Party to be.
Obviously I don't want the Tea Party to tackle social issues, and see that as a path to defeat. I still believe that the majority of this nation supports lower taxes and reduced spending, and that it is through moving the Tea Party off of that core message that the democrats have been successful in defaming the movement.
You would think that a group that believe the government should follow the Constitution, reduce the national debt, lower taxes, reduce government waste and corruption and have fiscally responsible government..would be popular, instead their persecuted by the left and the left want-to-Be's....
Every politically controlled educational system will inculcate the doctrine of state supremacy sooner or later. . . . Once that doctrine has been accepted, it becomes an almost superhuman task to break the stranglehold of the political power over the life of the citizen. It has had his body, property and mind in its clutches from infancy. An octopus would sooner release its prey. A tax-supported, compulsory educational system is the complete model of the totalitarian state.
–Isabel Paterson, The God of the Machine (1943)
Well the doctrine may not be fully accepted in America, but we have definitely arrived at a point of complacency that is allowing government unrestricted power that it is increasing day by day. And little that is good is likely to come from that. Government already pretty much controls the media, education, the work place, and healthcare. It won't be long before the people will have no real liberties left.
The Tea Party movement currently is pretty much the ONLY line of defense against that at this time. But the statists and government lovers among us are helping as much as they can to destroy the Tea Party movement.
You would think that a group that believe the government should follow the Constitution, reduce the national debt, lower taxes, reduce government waste and corruption and have fiscally responsible government..would be popular, instead their persecuted by the left and the left want-to-Be's....
Every politically controlled educational system will inculcate the doctrine of state supremacy sooner or later. . . . Once that doctrine has been accepted, it becomes an almost superhuman task to break the stranglehold of the political power over the life of the citizen. It has had his body, property and mind in its clutches from infancy. An octopus would sooner release its prey. A tax-supported, compulsory educational system is the complete model of the totalitarian state.
Isabel Paterson, The God of the Machine (1943)
Well the doctrine may not be fully accepted in America, but we have definitely arrived at a point of complacency that is allowing government unrestricted power that it is increasing day by day. And little that is good is likely to come from that. Government already pretty much controls the media, education, the work place, and healthcare. It won't be long before the people will have no real liberties left.
The Tea Party movement currently is pretty much the ONLY line of defense against that at this time. But the statists and government lovers among us are helping as much as they can to destroy the Tea Party movement.
This is the first I'm hearing about Tea Party rallies pre-dating Obama.
Is there any way to confirm this, for my own selfish edification?
Every politically controlled educational system will inculcate the doctrine of state supremacy sooner or later. . . . Once that doctrine has been accepted, it becomes an almost superhuman task to break the stranglehold of the political power over the life of the citizen. It has had his body, property and mind in its clutches from infancy. An octopus would sooner release its prey. A tax-supported, compulsory educational system is the complete model of the totalitarian state.
Isabel Paterson, The God of the Machine (1943)
Well the doctrine may not be fully accepted in America, but we have definitely arrived at a point of complacency that is allowing government unrestricted power that it is increasing day by day. And little that is good is likely to come from that. Government already pretty much controls the media, education, the work place, and healthcare. It won't be long before the people will have no real liberties left.
The Tea Party movement currently is pretty much the ONLY line of defense against that at this time. But the statists and government lovers among us are helping as much as they can to destroy the Tea Party movement.
I don't want the TP people to defend my freedoms and liberty. They are incompetent and suckers to and for the real culprits that are taking away my freedoms and liberty. They are financed by the very people who are taking away my freedoms and liberty.
The founding fathers gave us the means to protect our freedoms and liberty. They gave us a constitution that includes our right to vote and elect our leaders. That is how we protect our freedoms and liberty.
Corporations have taken away your freedom and your liberty. Obscenely rich billionairs have taken away your freedoms and liberty. How you live and what you are allowed to have is determined by people you don't know and have no control over. If you open a business and it cuts into some corporations bottom line they will knock you out of business. Can you be a family farmer today? Only if you follow the rules set down by the corporations. Can you influence your legislature? Not if you are fighting for something big business doesn't like.
You silly people think Obama is taking away your right to determine what kind of health care you have. You lost that right long ago. Your healthcare has been controlled by faceless, nameless rich people sitting in offices counting the profits that they make from you.
No thanks TP, I don't want you to have anything to do with protecting my freedoms and liberty.
Just look at the stupid post about education. Completely ignores the facts that we have local school boards, privite schools, charter schools, religious schools and finaly, you can keep your kid at home and home school them. And if you think our kids get all their education from school, you may not have kids.
This is the first I'm hearing about Tea Party rallies pre-dating Obama.
Is there any way to confirm this, for my own selfish edification?
Dunno - we had a rally at Tom's Farms in Corona, CA in 2007. About 15,000 I would guess.
Every politically controlled educational system will inculcate the doctrine of state supremacy sooner or later. . . . Once that doctrine has been accepted, it becomes an almost superhuman task to break the stranglehold of the political power over the life of the citizen. It has had his body, property and mind in its clutches from infancy. An octopus would sooner release its prey. A tax-supported, compulsory educational system is the complete model of the totalitarian state.
Isabel Paterson, The God of the Machine (1943)
Well the doctrine may not be fully accepted in America, but we have definitely arrived at a point of complacency that is allowing government unrestricted power that it is increasing day by day. And little that is good is likely to come from that. Government already pretty much controls the media, education, the work place, and healthcare. It won't be long before the people will have no real liberties left.
The Tea Party movement currently is pretty much the ONLY line of defense against that at this time. But the statists and government lovers among us are helping as much as they can to destroy the Tea Party movement.
There is a far better choice
.
I don't want the TP people to defend my freedoms and liberty.
They are incompetent and suckers to and for the real culprits that are taking away my freedoms and liberty. They are financed by the very people who are taking away my freedoms and liberty.
The founding fathers gave us the means to protect our freedoms and liberty. They gave us a constitution that includes our right to vote and elect our leaders. That is how we protect our freedoms and liberty.
Corporations have taken away your freedom and your liberty. Obscenely rich billionairs have taken away your freedoms and liberty. How you live and what you are allowed to have is determined by people you don't know and have no control over. If you open a business and it cuts into some corporations bottom line they will knock you out of business. Can you be a family farmer today? Only if you follow the rules set down by the corporations. Can you influence your legislature? Not if you are fighting for something big business doesn't like.
You silly people think Obama is taking away your right to determine what kind of health care you have. You lost that right long ago. Your healthcare has been controlled by faceless, nameless rich people sitting in offices counting the profits that they make from you.
No thanks TP, I don't want you to have anything to do with protecting my freedoms and liberty.
Just look at the stupid post about education. Completely ignores the facts that we have local school boards, privite schools, charter schools, religious schools and finaly, you can keep your kid at home and home school them. And if you think our kids get all their education from school, you may not have kids.
There is a far better choice
.
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