Ted Cruz: I'm Sure I Never Owned A Canadian Passport

[Steve_McGarrett]

How can a man born with a Canadian birth certificate not know he had Canadian citizenship? As a lawyer with such high accolades I'm amazed that his birth certificate didn't give him a clue.

Donald Trump steps up attack on Ted Cruz - CNNPolitics.com

Cruz was born as an American citizen in Canada, and claims he did not know he had Canadian citizenship until informed by a reporter in 2013.

 

[The Great Goose]

He nevee owned shit.

 

[TheOldSchool]

Raphael Eduardo Cruz's links to Fidel Castro and the rest of his questionable past are troublesome enough... and now we find out he isn't even an American citizen?

Despite multiple requests, he refuses to submit an official long form birth certificate for inspection by independent experts. What is he hiding?

 

[ABikerSailor]

He knew he had Canadian citizenship, but when it became a political nightmare (as well as an anchor that would take him down if he ran for president of the USA), he decided that it would be in his best interests politically if he dropped them.

However, Ted Cruz has shown that if you have an American mother it doesn't really matter that much, because you are an American citizen and can run for the highest office in the land.

BTW.....wasn't Obama's mother an American citizen as well? Doesn't matter, Kenya or Hawaii, Obama's mother was a citizen, therefore making him a citizen as well. (Especially if you ask Cruz).

 

[TheOldSchool]

He knew he had Canadian citizenship, but when it became a political nightmare (as well as an anchor that would take him down if he ran for president of the USA), he decided that it would be in his best interests politically if he dropped them.

However, Ted Cruz has shown that if you have an American mother it doesn't really matter that much, because you are an American citizen and can run for the highest office in the land.

BTW.....wasn't Obama's mother an American citizen as well? Doesn't matter, Kenya or Hawaii, Obama's mother was a citizen, therefore making him a citizen as well. (Especially if you ask Cruz).

Cruz has not provided any proof whatsoever that this woman is his actual mother. He could do so easily if he wanted to... but he won't. What is he afraid of?

 

[ABikerSailor]

Dunno, maybe the same thing that Donald the Chump accused Obama of being scared of?

 

[Steve_McGarrett]

He knew he had Canadian citizenship, but when it became a political nightmare (as well as an anchor that would take him down if he ran for president of the USA), he decided that it would be in his best interests politically if he dropped them.

However, Ted Cruz has shown that if you have an American mother it doesn't really matter that much, because you are an American citizen and can run for the highest office in the land.

BTW.....wasn't Obama's mother an American citizen as well? Doesn't matter, Kenya or Hawaii, Obama's mother was a citizen, therefore making him a citizen as well. (Especially if you ask Cruz).

Citizen is not good enough to be president. You have to be a Article 2 Section 1 natural born Citizen to be president.

Article 2 Section 1 Clause 5 of the United States Constitution:

No person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty-five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States.

The only time a Citizen was allowed to be president was at the time of the adoption of the Constitution and until the grandfather clause ended when a first generation 'natural born Citizen' was eligible to be president. That president was Martin Van Buren.

 

[ABikerSailor]

Interesting.................if we can prove that Cruz was a resident outside of the United States over 14 years ago, he is no longer eligible for president.

BTW................Cruz was born in Canada, that is why we have to check his credentials.

 

[gtopa1]

Raphael Eduardo Cruz's links to Fidel Castro and the rest of his questionable past are troublesome enough... and now we find out he isn't even an American citizen?

Despite multiple requests, he refuses to submit an official long form birth certificate for inspection by independent experts. What is he hiding?

Probably the same thing Obama was hiding.

Bupkus!!!!!!!

Greg

 

[ScienceRocks]

The guys a fucking idiot!

 

[gtopa1]

The guys a fucking idiot!

You say you are a Blue Dog?? So when are you taking your party back from the Lefty Wing Scum??? Nothing wrong with a Blue Dog Dem!!

Greg

 

[FJO]

He knew he had Canadian citizenship, but when it became a political nightmare (as well as an anchor that would take him down if he ran for president of the USA), he decided that it would be in his best interests politically if he dropped them.

However, Ted Cruz has shown that if you have an American mother it doesn't really matter that much, because you are an American citizen and can run for the highest office in the land.

BTW.....wasn't Obama's mother an American citizen as well? Doesn't matter, Kenya or Hawaii, Obama's mother was a citizen, therefore making him a citizen as well. (Especially if you ask Cruz).

Citizen is not good enough to be president. You have to be a Article 2 Section 1 natural born Citizen to be president.

Article 2 Section 1 Clause 5 of the United States Constitution:

No person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty-five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States.

The only time a Citizen was allowed to be president was at the time of the adoption of the Constitution and until the grandfather clause ended when a first generation 'natural born Citizen' was eligible to be president. That president was Martin Van Buren.

The Founding Fathers did not define who is a natural born citizen.

 

[Steve_McGarrett]

He knew he had Canadian citizenship, but when it became a political nightmare (as well as an anchor that would take him down if he ran for president of the USA), he decided that it would be in his best interests politically if he dropped them.

However, Ted Cruz has shown that if you have an American mother it doesn't really matter that much, because you are an American citizen and can run for the highest office in the land.

BTW.....wasn't Obama's mother an American citizen as well? Doesn't matter, Kenya or Hawaii, Obama's mother was a citizen, therefore making him a citizen as well. (Especially if you ask Cruz).

Citizen is not good enough to be president. You have to be a Article 2 Section 1 natural born Citizen to be president.

Article 2 Section 1 Clause 5 of the United States Constitution:

No person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty-five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States.

The only time a Citizen was allowed to be president was at the time of the adoption of the Constitution and until the grandfather clause ended when a first generation 'natural born Citizen' was eligible to be president. That president was Martin Van Buren.

The Founding Fathers did not define who is a natural born citizen.

Read the Federalist Papers and you will get a clear understanding of what their intent was, born of citizen parents. The father of the 14th Amendment, Rep John Bingham, when debating to congress on the house floor defined a natural born Citizen as a person born within the sole jurisdiction of the United States of parents owing no allegiance to any foreign sovereigty. His definition was met without any opposition.

 

[g5000]

He knew he had Canadian citizenship, but when it became a political nightmare (as well as an anchor that would take him down if he ran for president of the USA), he decided that it would be in his best interests politically if he dropped them.

However, Ted Cruz has shown that if you have an American mother it doesn't really matter that much, because you are an American citizen and can run for the highest office in the land.

BTW.....wasn't Obama's mother an American citizen as well? Doesn't matter, Kenya or Hawaii, Obama's mother was a citizen, therefore making him a citizen as well. (Especially if you ask Cruz).

Citizen is not good enough to be president. You have to be a Article 2 Section 1 natural born Citizen to be president.

Article 2 Section 1 Clause 5 of the United States Constitution:

No person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty-five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States.

The only time a Citizen was allowed to be president was at the time of the adoption of the Constitution and until the grandfather clause ended when a first generation 'natural born Citizen' was eligible to be president. That president was Martin Van Buren.

The Founding Fathers did not define who is a natural born citizen.

Read the Federalist Papers and you will get a clear understanding of what their intent was, born of citizen parents. The father of the 14th Amendment, Rep John Bingham, when debating to congress on the house floor defined a natural born Citizen as a person born within the sole jurisdiction of the United States of parents owing no allegiance to any foreign sovereigty. His definition was met without any opposition.

Sadly for you, I have read the Federalist Papers and the Congressional Record of Bingham's statements. You have not. You have repeatedly parroted some out of context bullshit you read on the internet. We've had this talk before, jackass.

Bingham did not address those children who are born outside the US to US citizens. All he defined were those children who were born IN the United States. He was silent on those born outside the US to citizens.

This does: Naturalization Act of 1790

And the children of citizens of the United States that may be born beyond Sea, or out of the limits of the United States, shall be considered as natural born Citizens

I repeat, Bingham did not address those children born outside the US to US citizens. And he came along 79 years after the Founders used the term in the Constitution, and 76 years after they defined children born to US citizens outside the US as natural born citizens in the Naturalization Act.

You can't possibly pretend our Founders meant something different in the Constitution than what they themselves specifically spelled out in the Naturalization Act only three years after penning the Constitution.

 

[Steve_McGarrett]

He knew he had Canadian citizenship, but when it became a political nightmare (as well as an anchor that would take him down if he ran for president of the USA), he decided that it would be in his best interests politically if he dropped them.

However, Ted Cruz has shown that if you have an American mother it doesn't really matter that much, because you are an American citizen and can run for the highest office in the land.

BTW.....wasn't Obama's mother an American citizen as well? Doesn't matter, Kenya or Hawaii, Obama's mother was a citizen, therefore making him a citizen as well. (Especially if you ask Cruz).

Citizen is not good enough to be president. You have to be a Article 2 Section 1 natural born Citizen to be president.

Article 2 Section 1 Clause 5 of the United States Constitution:

No person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty-five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States.

The only time a Citizen was allowed to be president was at the time of the adoption of the Constitution and until the grandfather clause ended when a first generation 'natural born Citizen' was eligible to be president. That president was Martin Van Buren.

The Founding Fathers did not define who is a natural born citizen.

Read the Federalist Papers and you will get a clear understanding of what their intent was, born of citizen parents. The father of the 14th Amendment, Rep John Bingham, when debating to congress on the house floor defined a natural born Citizen as a person born within the sole jurisdiction of the United States of parents owing no allegiance to any foreign sovereigty. His definition was met without any opposition.

Sadly for you, I have read the Federalist Papers and the Congressional Record of Bingham's statements. You have not. You have repeatedly parroted some out of context bullshit you read on the internet. We've had this talk before, jackass.

Bingham did not address those children who are born outside the US to US citizens. All he defined were those children who were born IN the United States. He was silent on those born outside the US to citizens.

This does: Naturalization Act of 1790

And the children of citizens of the United States that may be born beyond Sea, or out of the limits of the United States, shall be considered as natural born Citizens

I repeat, Bingham did not address those children born outside the US to US citizens. And he came along 79 years after the Founders used the term in the Constitution, and 76 years after they defined children born to US citizens outside the US as natural born citizens in the Naturalization Act.

You can't possibly pretend our Founders meant something different in the Constitution than what they themselves specifically spelled out in the Naturalization Act only three years after penning the Constitution.

And the founders repealed the 1790 Act five years later and removed the words 'natural born Citizens' from their definition of children being born to US Citizens beyond the limits and jurisdiction of the United States. 'Natural born Citizens' was replaced with 'Citizens'.

 

[The Rabbi]

How can a man born with a Canadian birth certificate not know he had Canadian citizenship? As a lawyer with such high accolades I'm amazed that his birth certificate didn't give him a clue.

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Donald Trump steps up attack on Ted Cruz - CNNPolitics.com

Cruz was born as an American citizen in Canada, and claims he did not know he had Canadian citizenship until informed by a reporter in 2013.

A lot of Americans do not have passports. Just because you are eligible for a passport doesnt mean you have one.
And quit flogging this birther crap. Cruz was born an US citizen. Period.

 

[gtopa1]

He knew he had Canadian citizenship, but when it became a political nightmare (as well as an anchor that would take him down if he ran for president of the USA), he decided that it would be in his best interests politically if he dropped them.

However, Ted Cruz has shown that if you have an American mother it doesn't really matter that much, because you are an American citizen and can run for the highest office in the land.

BTW.....wasn't Obama's mother an American citizen as well? Doesn't matter, Kenya or Hawaii, Obama's mother was a citizen, therefore making him a citizen as well. (Especially if you ask Cruz).

Citizen is not good enough to be president. You have to be a Article 2 Section 1 natural born Citizen to be president.

Article 2 Section 1 Clause 5 of the United States Constitution:

No person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty-five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States.

The only time a Citizen was allowed to be president was at the time of the adoption of the Constitution and until the grandfather clause ended when a first generation 'natural born Citizen' was eligible to be president. That president was Martin Van Buren.

The Founding Fathers did not define who is a natural born citizen.

Read the Federalist Papers and you will get a clear understanding of what their intent was, born of citizen parents. The father of the 14th Amendment, Rep John Bingham, when debating to congress on the house floor defined a natural born Citizen as a person born within the sole jurisdiction of the United States of parents owing no allegiance to any foreign sovereigty. His definition was met without any opposition.

Shhh. That would mean that Obama would be ineligible. I suggest that the matters are already done to death. Is there going to be a new Birther movement among Dems aimed at Cruz?? You betcha!!! And it will get derision as it deserves. Besides, I consider it a stupid rule anyway. The Presidency should be open to ALL citizens and the Will of the People!!



Greg

 

[Steve_McGarrett]

He knew he had Canadian citizenship, but when it became a political nightmare (as well as an anchor that would take him down if he ran for president of the USA), he decided that it would be in his best interests politically if he dropped them.

However, Ted Cruz has shown that if you have an American mother it doesn't really matter that much, because you are an American citizen and can run for the highest office in the land.

BTW.....wasn't Obama's mother an American citizen as well? Doesn't matter, Kenya or Hawaii, Obama's mother was a citizen, therefore making him a citizen as well. (Especially if you ask Cruz).

Citizen is not good enough to be president. You have to be a Article 2 Section 1 natural born Citizen to be president.

Article 2 Section 1 Clause 5 of the United States Constitution:

No person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty-five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States.

The only time a Citizen was allowed to be president was at the time of the adoption of the Constitution and until the grandfather clause ended when a first generation 'natural born Citizen' was eligible to be president. That president was Martin Van Buren.

The Founding Fathers did not define who is a natural born citizen.

Read the Federalist Papers and you will get a clear understanding of what their intent was, born of citizen parents. The father of the 14th Amendment, Rep John Bingham, when debating to congress on the house floor defined a natural born Citizen as a person born within the sole jurisdiction of the United States of parents owing no allegiance to any foreign sovereigty. His definition was met without any opposition.

Shhh. That would mean that Obama would be ineligible. I suggest that the matters are already done to death. Is there going to be a new Birther movement among Dems aimed at Cruz?? You betcha!!! And it will get derision as it deserves. Besides, I consider it a stupid rule anyway. The Presidency should be open to ALL citizens and the Will of the People!!



Greg

I disagree. The natural born citizen clause should be left intact. Both parents should be U.S. citizens ensuring sole allegiance. No foreign influences. Read the letter to George Washington (when he was framing the qualifications to be president) by his good friend John Jay (the first Supreme Court Justice) suggesting that Alexander Hamilton's presidential draft be changed from just 'Citizen' to be president to 'natural-born Citizen' to avoid foreign influences. Here is the original presidential clause by Alexander Hamilton:

The print version:

 

[The Rabbi]

He knew he had Canadian citizenship, but when it became a political nightmare (as well as an anchor that would take him down if he ran for president of the USA), he decided that it would be in his best interests politically if he dropped them.

However, Ted Cruz has shown that if you have an American mother it doesn't really matter that much, because you are an American citizen and can run for the highest office in the land.

BTW.....wasn't Obama's mother an American citizen as well? Doesn't matter, Kenya or Hawaii, Obama's mother was a citizen, therefore making him a citizen as well. (Especially if you ask Cruz).

Citizen is not good enough to be president. You have to be a Article 2 Section 1 natural born Citizen to be president.

Article 2 Section 1 Clause 5 of the United States Constitution:

No person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty-five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States.

The only time a Citizen was allowed to be president was at the time of the adoption of the Constitution and until the grandfather clause ended when a first generation 'natural born Citizen' was eligible to be president. That president was Martin Van Buren.

The Founding Fathers did not define who is a natural born citizen.

Read the Federalist Papers and you will get a clear understanding of what their intent was, born of citizen parents. The father of the 14th Amendment, Rep John Bingham, when debating to congress on the house floor defined a natural born Citizen as a person born within the sole jurisdiction of the United States of parents owing no allegiance to any foreign sovereigty. His definition was met without any opposition.

Shhh. That would mean that Obama would be ineligible. I suggest that the matters are already done to death. Is there going to be a new Birther movement among Dems aimed at Cruz?? You betcha!!! And it will get derision as it deserves. Besides, I consider it a stupid rule anyway. The Presidency should be open to ALL citizens and the Will of the People!!



Greg

I disagree. The natural born citizen clause should be left intact. Both parents should be U.S. citizens ensuring sole allegiance. No foreign influences. Read the letter to George Washington (when he was framing the qualifications to be president) by his good friend John Jay (the first Supreme Court Justice) suggesting that Alexander Hamilton's presidential draft be changed from just 'Citizen' to be president to 'natural-born Citizen' to avoid foreign influences. Here is the original presidential clause by Alexander Hamilton:

The print version:

No one cares what "should" be the case. What is the case is that Cruz is a natural born citizen. So was George Romney and Barry Goldwater. And a letter from Washington has exactly the same legal authority as a letter from Jimmy Carter.

 

[Steve_McGarrett]

Citizen is not good enough to be president. You have to be a Article 2 Section 1 natural born Citizen to be president.

Article 2 Section 1 Clause 5 of the United States Constitution:

No person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty-five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States.

The only time a Citizen was allowed to be president was at the time of the adoption of the Constitution and until the grandfather clause ended when a first generation 'natural born Citizen' was eligible to be president. That president was Martin Van Buren.

The Founding Fathers did not define who is a natural born citizen.

Read the Federalist Papers and you will get a clear understanding of what their intent was, born of citizen parents. The father of the 14th Amendment, Rep John Bingham, when debating to congress on the house floor defined a natural born Citizen as a person born within the sole jurisdiction of the United States of parents owing no allegiance to any foreign sovereigty. His definition was met without any opposition.

Shhh. That would mean that Obama would be ineligible. I suggest that the matters are already done to death. Is there going to be a new Birther movement among Dems aimed at Cruz?? You betcha!!! And it will get derision as it deserves. Besides, I consider it a stupid rule anyway. The Presidency should be open to ALL citizens and the Will of the People!!



Greg

I disagree. The natural born citizen clause should be left intact. Both parents should be U.S. citizens ensuring sole allegiance. No foreign influences. Read the letter to George Washington (when he was framing the qualifications to be president) by his good friend John Jay (the first Supreme Court Justice) suggesting that Alexander Hamilton's presidential draft be changed from just 'Citizen' to be president to 'natural-born Citizen' to avoid foreign influences. Here is the original presidential clause by Alexander Hamilton:

The print version:

No one cares what "should" be the case. What is the case is that Cruz is a natural born citizen. So was George Romney and Barry Goldwater. And a letter from Washington has exactly the same legal authority as a letter from Jimmy Carter.

Cruz is a citizen by statute made by positive law. He is not a natural born Citizen due to natural law, the founders original intent. There is a difference.