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Ted Cruz Introduces Bills to Stop Gay Marriage

nice try, but those things do not compare with homosexuality. Whether its a valid legal argument is yet to be seen. I think the gay mafia will win this round, and the country and society as a whole will lose.
The people deserve what they vote for. Obama is the perfect example of voters shitting in their own soup.

No, the country loses because people like you obsess with idiotic made up religious agendas and ignore the maintenance of the legacy of the true good works of the great republicans that preceded you.


"endowed by their creator" "In God we trust" the founders knew what they and the country stood for and those beliefs have made this country the greatest in the history of the world.

Can you list the Godless republicans from the past that you are so proud of?

I can't remember Dwight David Eisenhower ever mentioning the word "homosexual".


me either, the gay mafia did not exist in those days. But there were plenty of openly gays. remember Liberace? Whats your point?

Liberace wasn't openly gay. He successfully sued two newspaper that claimed he was gay. It was obvious he was gay but he kept it private as not damage his career.

If you couldn't tell Liberace was gay then you weren't paying attention. I saw him on various TV shows when I was a kid..Ed Sullivan etc. I remember asking my parents why he dressed like that and talked like that and it was explained that he was probably a homosexual. My parents were not stupid. Neither am I.
 
One would think with a GOP Congress, he could get it passed, but considering those assholes just confirmed Obama's lunatic AG appointee, there's just no telling. What did that asshole Lindsey Graham say? "A president should have his cabinet picks confirmed". Fuck these Democrat assholes calling themselves Republicans. May they burn in hell forever.

'lunatic AG appointee'?

According to what Right Wing idiot- oh wait....

Harvard
Harvard Law
Worked in a law firm
Prosecutor for the U.S. Attorney's office.
Partner in Law firm
United States Attorney for the Eastern District of New York

Which part made her a 'lunatic'?

Being a partner in a law firm or being U.S. Attorney and prosecuting criminals?

Or just the crime of being a Democrat nominee?
Her opinion that a Democrat president can issue any executive order he wants, bypassing Congress. No doubt if it were a Republican president, she would think differently. So yes, I have a problem with her being a Democrat because all of you are hypocrites.


Were you this upset about the 291 executive orders that shrub issued?
It's not the number, skid mark, it's the ones that legislate in lieu of Congress. The Decider could have issued a thousand. Doesn't matter to me as long as they're legal.

Oh...I see. You mean things like the Emancipation Proclamation?
That was in line with the Constitution and U.S. Law. Slavery was allowed but it was never really legal.
 
its called having principles and being willing to stand up for them. Something not a single dem can or will do.

Bigotry is a "principle" ....smooth!


Sorry, dude. But the bigotry here is yours. You are bigoted against anyone who does not share your far left ideas of how our society should operate. YOU ARE THE BIGOT.

That sums up all the people from the left/libs/dem party. Also if you don't bow down to them they'll call you all kinds of names. because they are so high and mighty they feel it's THEIR RIGHT. all I see them as is intolerant bullies, which you see in this thread

Sorry Stefunny...I have never voted democrat. I have been a republican since birth..66 years ago. All of my family has been republican. So you rightfully ask "why I am against many of the current republican candidates and incumbants?". The reason I seem so hateful towards the current repubs in general is because the party has been stolen by religious zealots with no intelligence or understanding of how government works to handle the job of maintaining the legacy of the great works of Eisenhower and other true republican American patriots.

The reason people like you have ripped off my party was to acquire a national platform to spout your religious dogma and bigotry. You are an embarrassment to the name republican. You are GOP in name only. You think you are republican when in fact you do not represent traditional republican values.

You can put lipstick on a pig and wave a GOP banner but you are still a pig. I don't support pigs.


this country was founded on religious principles and the freedom to practice and speak about all religions. If you want a Godless country, try north korea.

If you want a really religious country, try Saudi Arabia.
 
No, the country loses because people like you obsess with idiotic made up religious agendas and ignore the maintenance of the legacy of the true good works of the great republicans that preceded you.


"endowed by their creator" "In God we trust" the founders knew what they and the country stood for and those beliefs have made this country the greatest in the history of the world.

Can you list the Godless republicans from the past that you are so proud of?

I can't remember Dwight David Eisenhower ever mentioning the word "homosexual".


me either, the gay mafia did not exist in those days. But there were plenty of openly gays. remember Liberace? Whats your point?

Liberace wasn't openly gay. He successfully sued two newspaper that claimed he was gay. It was obvious he was gay but he kept it private as not damage his career.

If you couldn't tell Liberace was gay then you weren't paying attention. I saw him on various TV shows when I was a kid..Ed Sullivan etc. I remember asking my parents why he dressed like that and talked like that and it was explained that he was probably a homosexual. My parents were not stupid. Neither am I.

We are duly impressed by your obviously early onset gaydar. The rest of America was behind the 8 ball. There were no openly gay people in the 50s like there are today. In fact, can you name anyone who was out and openly gay in the 50s?
 
It wouldn't end gay marriage in America like the loony Left will bleat about, it would simply allow states to decide the issue for themselves. Not all would ban gay marriage and the butt pirates can all move to the states that allow it.

Then the Feds were wrong when they outlawed slavery. They should have left it up to the states, right?


Slavery violated the Constitution, defining marriage does not. Try to pay attention.
It actually did not violate the Constitution. Thus the 13th Amendment. But enough people thought it was wrong that it became the law.

And the 14th protects same sex marriage as an equal right.
 
"endowed by their creator" "In God we trust" the founders knew what they and the country stood for and those beliefs have made this country the greatest in the history of the world.

Can you list the Godless republicans from the past that you are so proud of?

I can't remember Dwight David Eisenhower ever mentioning the word "homosexual".


me either, the gay mafia did not exist in those days. But there were plenty of openly gays. remember Liberace? Whats your point?

Liberace wasn't openly gay. He successfully sued two newspaper that claimed he was gay. It was obvious he was gay but he kept it private as not damage his career.

If you couldn't tell Liberace was gay then you weren't paying attention. I saw him on various TV shows when I was a kid..Ed Sullivan etc. I remember asking my parents why he dressed like that and talked like that and it was explained that he was probably a homosexual. My parents were not stupid. Neither am I.

We are duly impressed by your obviously early onset gaydar. The rest of America was behind the 8 ball. There were no openly gay people in the 50s like there are today. In fact, can you name anyone who was out and openly gay in the 50s?
In those days they were eccentric.
 
Well, where were we now?

-Geaux
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10 Reasons Why Homosexual “Marriage” is Harmful and Must be Opposed

1. It Is Not Marriage

Calling something marriage does not make it marriage. Marriage has always been a covenant between a man and a woman which is by its nature ordered toward the procreation and education of children and the unity and wellbeing of the spouses.

The promoters of same-sex “marriage” propose something entirely different. They propose the union between two men or two women. This denies the self-evident biological, physiological, and psychological differences between men and women which find their complementarity in marriage. It also denies the specific primary purpose of marriage: the perpetuation of the human race and the raising of children.

Two entirely different things cannot be considered the same thing.


2. It Violates Natural Law

Marriage is not just any relationship between human beings. It is a relationship rooted in human nature and thus governed by natural law.

Natural law’s most elementary precept is that “good is to be done and pursued, and evil is to be avoided.” By his natural reason, man can perceive what is morally good or bad for him. Thus, he can know the end or purpose of each of his acts and how it is morally wrong to transform the means that help him accomplish an act into the act’s purpose.

Any situation which institutionalizes the circumvention of the purpose of the sexual act violates natural law and the objective norm of morality.

Being rooted in human nature, natural law is universal and immutable. It applies to the entire human race, equally. It commands and forbids consistently, everywhere and always. Saint Paul taught in the Epistle to the Romans that the natural law is inscribed on the heart of every man. (Rom. 2:14-15)

3. It Always Denies a Child Either a Father or a Mother

It is in the child’s best interests that he be raised under the influence of his natural father and mother. This rule is confirmed by the evident difficulties faced by the many children who are orphans or are raised by a single parent, a relative, or a foster parent.

The unfortunate situation of these children will be the norm for all children of a same-sex “marriage.” A child of a same-sex “marriage” will always be deprived of either his natural mother or father. He will necessarily be raised by one party who has no blood relationship with him. He will always be deprived of either a mother or a father role model.

Same-sex “marriage” ignores a child’s best interests.

4. It Validates and Promotes the Homosexual Lifestyle

In the name of the “family,” same-sex “marriage” serves to validate not only such unions but the whole homosexual lifestyle in all its bisexual and transgender variants.

Civil laws are structuring principles of man's life in society. As such, they play a very important and sometimes decisive role in influencing patterns of thought and behavior. They externally shape the life of society, but also profoundly modify everyone’s perception and evaluation of forms of behavior.

Legal recognition of same-sex “marriage” would necessarily obscure certain basic moral values, devalue traditional marriage, and weaken public morality.

5. It Turns a Moral Wrong into a Civil Right

Homosexual activists argue that same-sex “marriage” is a civil rights issue similar to the struggle for racial equality in the 1960s.

This is false.

First of all, sexual behavior and race are essentially different realities. A man and a woman wanting to marry may be different in their characteristics: one may be black, the other white; one rich, the other poor; or one tall, the other short. None of these differences are insurmountable obstacles to marriage. The two individuals are still man and woman, and thus the requirements of nature are respected.

Same-sex “marriage” opposes nature. Two individuals of the same sex, regardless of their race, wealth, stature, erudition or fame, will never be able to marry because of an insurmountable biological impossibility.

Secondly, inherited and unchangeable racial traits cannot be compared with non-genetic and changeable behavior. There is simply no analogy between the interracial marriage of a man and a woman and the “marriage” between two individuals of the same sex.

10 Reasons Why Homosexual Marriage is Harmful and Must be Opposed

"It offends God" isn't exactly a very compelling legal argument.


our system of laws is based on judeo/Christian principles, so yes, it is a very compelling legal argument

What is the success rate of that argument in the courts concerning gay marriage? Yeah, not so good.

Why do we allow fat people to marry? Gluttony offends God.

Why do we allow liars to marry? Lying lips are an abomination to the Lord.

Why do we allow those that dishonor their mother and father to marry? They offend God.

Like I said, it is not a compelling legal argument.


nice try, but those things do not compare with homosexuality. Whether its a valid legal argument is yet to be seen. I think the gay mafia will win this round, and the country and society as a whole will lose.
The people deserve what they vote for. Obama is the perfect example of voters shitting in their own soup.
The Left winning the war is like a virus winning the war. The host dies and so do they.

You are not "the host". You are just some loud mouthed religious fanatics attempting to make America place your insane agenda up on a pedestal.
 
'lunatic AG appointee'?

According to what Right Wing idiot- oh wait....

Harvard
Harvard Law
Worked in a law firm
Prosecutor for the U.S. Attorney's office.
Partner in Law firm
United States Attorney for the Eastern District of New York

Which part made her a 'lunatic'?

Being a partner in a law firm or being U.S. Attorney and prosecuting criminals?

Or just the crime of being a Democrat nominee?
Her opinion that a Democrat president can issue any executive order he wants, bypassing Congress. No doubt if it were a Republican president, she would think differently. So yes, I have a problem with her being a Democrat because all of you are hypocrites.


Were you this upset about the 291 executive orders that shrub issued?
It's not the number, skid mark, it's the ones that legislate in lieu of Congress. The Decider could have issued a thousand. Doesn't matter to me as long as they're legal.

Oh...I see. You mean things like the Emancipation Proclamation?
That was in line with the Constitution and U.S. Law. Slavery was allowed but it was never really legal.

Right, of course it was...but none of President Obama's EOs are. So how come the GOP isn't suing anymore?
 
I can't remember Dwight David Eisenhower ever mentioning the word "homosexual".


me either, the gay mafia did not exist in those days. But there were plenty of openly gays. remember Liberace? Whats your point?

Liberace wasn't openly gay. He successfully sued two newspaper that claimed he was gay. It was obvious he was gay but he kept it private as not damage his career.

If you couldn't tell Liberace was gay then you weren't paying attention. I saw him on various TV shows when I was a kid..Ed Sullivan etc. I remember asking my parents why he dressed like that and talked like that and it was explained that he was probably a homosexual. My parents were not stupid. Neither am I.

We are duly impressed by your obviously early onset gaydar. The rest of America was behind the 8 ball. There were no openly gay people in the 50s like there are today. In fact, can you name anyone who was out and openly gay in the 50s?
In those days they were eccentric.

And no less fully entitled American citizens.
 
Ted Cruz Introduces Bills to Stop Gay Marriage
Bloomberg | 4/23/2015 | Heidi Prszbyla


Bloomberg Title and Link Only
Ted Cruz Introduces Bills to Stop Gay Marriage - Bloomberg Politics
Sub-Heading-- "The Texas senator wants to establish a constitutional amendment that protects states that define marriage as being between a man and a woman from legal action. "

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Cruz Is going to fight the gays!
A Constitutional Amendment?

He just rose a notch or two in my estimation.

Finally, political leadership manifesting some courage, rather than pandering to the whores in the Gay Mafia PACs.
 
It wouldn't end gay marriage in America like the loony Left will bleat about, it would simply allow states to decide the issue for themselves. Not all would ban gay marriage and the butt pirates can all move to the states that allow it.

Then the Feds were wrong when they outlawed slavery. They should have left it up to the states, right?


Slavery violated the Constitution, defining marriage does not. Try to pay attention.
It actually did not violate the Constitution. Thus the 13th Amendment. But enough people thought it was wrong that it became the law.

And the 14th protects same sex marriage as an equal right.
Bullshit.
 
me either, the gay mafia did not exist in those days. But there were plenty of openly gays. remember Liberace? Whats your point?

:lol: You obviously don't remember Liberace...he was never "openly gay".

How Liberace Protected His ‘Big Secret’ in the Homophobic ’50s

You are an idiot. Liberace was OBVIOUSLY a homosexual. I don't believe that Eisenhower or Goldwater felt it was any of their business.

Yes, in 2015 Liberace was "obviously gay". In the 1950s, he wasn't. Liberace never came out as gay. He sued a newspaper for libel for suggesting it.

That would be between Liberace and the newspaper. I didn't follow Liberace's life as I didn't/don't obsess about the queers as you do.

Wow...quite the concession. Perhaps next time you won't make claims that you don't know for a fact are true.

Go fuck yourself junior. Pipsqueeks such as yourself will never see a day that I am not your better.
 
It wouldn't end gay marriage in America like the loony Left will bleat about, it would simply allow states to decide the issue for themselves. Not all would ban gay marriage and the butt pirates can all move to the states that allow it.

Then the Feds were wrong when they outlawed slavery. They should have left it up to the states, right?


Slavery violated the Constitution, defining marriage does not. Try to pay attention.
It actually did not violate the Constitution. Thus the 13th Amendment. But enough people thought it was wrong that it became the law.

And the 14th protects same sex marriage as an equal right.
Bullshit.

Golly, another thoughtful and cogent opinion from the anti gay crowd. I'm shocked they haven't won more court cases.
 
"endowed by their creator" "In God we trust" the founders knew what they and the country stood for and those beliefs have made this country the greatest in the history of the world.

Can you list the Godless republicans from the past that you are so proud of?

I can't remember Dwight David Eisenhower ever mentioning the word "homosexual".


me either, the gay mafia did not exist in those days. But there were plenty of openly gays. remember Liberace? Whats your point?

Liberace wasn't openly gay. He successfully sued two newspaper that claimed he was gay. It was obvious he was gay but he kept it private as not damage his career.

If you couldn't tell Liberace was gay then you weren't paying attention. I saw him on various TV shows when I was a kid..Ed Sullivan etc. I remember asking my parents why he dressed like that and talked like that and it was explained that he was probably a homosexual. My parents were not stupid. Neither am I.

We are duly impressed by your obviously early onset gaydar. The rest of America was behind the 8 ball. There were no openly gay people in the 50s like there are today. In fact, can you name anyone who was out and openly gay in the 50s?

Tennessee Williams, I think.
 
:lol: You obviously don't remember Liberace...he was never "openly gay".

How Liberace Protected His ‘Big Secret’ in the Homophobic ’50s

You are an idiot. Liberace was OBVIOUSLY a homosexual. I don't believe that Eisenhower or Goldwater felt it was any of their business.

Yes, in 2015 Liberace was "obviously gay". In the 1950s, he wasn't. Liberace never came out as gay. He sued a newspaper for libel for suggesting it.

That would be between Liberace and the newspaper. I didn't follow Liberace's life as I didn't/don't obsess about the queers as you do.

Wow...quite the concession. Perhaps next time you won't make claims that you don't know for a fact are true.

Go fuck yourself junior. Pipsqueeks such as yourself will never see a day that I am not your better.

Yeah, you got me. Your debate skills, especially the ad hominem attacks, they are just crippling. :lol:

Huggy: Outrageous untrue claims about Liberace
Seawych: Provides evidence debunking outrageous claims
Huggy: Fuck you, I never cared about fags anyway

That debate should be in a hall of fame somewhere.
 
No, the country loses because people like you obsess with idiotic made up religious agendas and ignore the maintenance of the legacy of the true good works of the great republicans that preceded you.


"endowed by their creator" "In God we trust" the founders knew what they and the country stood for and those beliefs have made this country the greatest in the history of the world.

Can you list the Godless republicans from the past that you are so proud of?

I can't remember Dwight David Eisenhower ever mentioning the word "homosexual".


me either, the gay mafia did not exist in those days. But there were plenty of openly gays. remember Liberace? Whats your point?

Liberace wasn't openly gay. He successfully sued two newspaper that claimed he was gay. It was obvious he was gay but he kept it private as not damage his career.

If you couldn't tell Liberace was gay then you weren't paying attention. I saw him on various TV shows when I was a kid..Ed Sullivan etc. I remember asking my parents why he dressed like that and talked like that and it was explained that he was probably a homosexual. My parents were not stupid. Neither am I.

Thinking one may be gay and openly/stating one is gay is two totally different matters. He wasn't openly gay.

I wasn't paying attention to Liberace in the 50's or 60's b/c I wasn't born until the 80's. Either way I really don't care about Liberace.
 
I can't remember Dwight David Eisenhower ever mentioning the word "homosexual".


me either, the gay mafia did not exist in those days. But there were plenty of openly gays. remember Liberace? Whats your point?

Liberace wasn't openly gay. He successfully sued two newspaper that claimed he was gay. It was obvious he was gay but he kept it private as not damage his career.

If you couldn't tell Liberace was gay then you weren't paying attention. I saw him on various TV shows when I was a kid..Ed Sullivan etc. I remember asking my parents why he dressed like that and talked like that and it was explained that he was probably a homosexual. My parents were not stupid. Neither am I.

We are duly impressed by your obviously early onset gaydar. The rest of America was behind the 8 ball. There were no openly gay people in the 50s like there are today. In fact, can you name anyone who was out and openly gay in the 50s?
Tennessee Williams, I think.

Ya ..I always had my doubts about him too. We didn't talk about the homos much in my household though. We had real problems to work on like running our farm. My obsession in those days was riding horses and hunting and fishing. I spent a LOT more time out in the pastures and the woods and out on the water than in front of a television. Fences don't repair themselves. Neither do horses and cattle get fed nor the barns get repaired or the gardens get plowed nor the wood get felled and chopped and stacked for cooking and heat. Sheds and tools don't get built and maintained watching TV either. My siblings spent their time indoors. I did not.
 
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I can't remember Dwight David Eisenhower ever mentioning the word "homosexual".


me either, the gay mafia did not exist in those days. But there were plenty of openly gays. remember Liberace? Whats your point?

Liberace wasn't openly gay. He successfully sued two newspaper that claimed he was gay. It was obvious he was gay but he kept it private as not damage his career.

If you couldn't tell Liberace was gay then you weren't paying attention. I saw him on various TV shows when I was a kid..Ed Sullivan etc. I remember asking my parents why he dressed like that and talked like that and it was explained that he was probably a homosexual. My parents were not stupid. Neither am I.

We are duly impressed by your obviously early onset gaydar. The rest of America was behind the 8 ball. There were no openly gay people in the 50s like there are today. In fact, can you name anyone who was out and openly gay in the 50s?

Tennessee Williams, I think.

Williams's gayness was an open secret he neither publicly confirmed nor denied until the post-Stonewall era when gay critics took him to task for not coming out, which he did in a series of public utterances, his Memoirs (1975), self-portraits in some of the later plays, and the novel, Moise and the World of Reason (1975), all of which document, often pathetically, Williams's sense of himself as a gay man.

glbtq literature Williams Tennessee
 
Then the Feds were wrong when they outlawed slavery. They should have left it up to the states, right?


Slavery violated the Constitution, defining marriage does not. Try to pay attention.
It actually did not violate the Constitution. Thus the 13th Amendment. But enough people thought it was wrong that it became the law.

And the 14th protects same sex marriage as an equal right.
Bullshit.

Golly, another thoughtful and cogent opinion from the anti gay crowd. I'm shocked they haven't won more court cases.

Where does the 14th amendment say same sex marriage is an equal right?
It says deprive any person of life, liberty or property.
You are free to be gay in this country but it says nothing about marriage.
 
"endowed by their creator" "In God we trust" the founders knew what they and the country stood for and those beliefs have made this country the greatest in the history of the world.

Can you list the Godless republicans from the past that you are so proud of?

I can't remember Dwight David Eisenhower ever mentioning the word "homosexual".


me either, the gay mafia did not exist in those days. But there were plenty of openly gays. remember Liberace? Whats your point?

Liberace wasn't openly gay. He successfully sued two newspaper that claimed he was gay. It was obvious he was gay but he kept it private as not damage his career.

If you couldn't tell Liberace was gay then you weren't paying attention. I saw him on various TV shows when I was a kid..Ed Sullivan etc. I remember asking my parents why he dressed like that and talked like that and it was explained that he was probably a homosexual. My parents were not stupid. Neither am I.

Thinking one may be gay and openly/stating one is gay is two totally different matters. He wasn't openly gay.

I wasn't paying attention to Liberace in the 50's or 60's b/c I wasn't born until the 80's. Either way I really don't care about Liberace.

I lived a lot of life before you were born as a republican and believe it or not I managed to muddle through it without even once obsessing about homos. I knew they existed but it really wasn't my business so I didn't give it any thought.
 

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