Teen arrested for defending him self against the mob!

[Juicin]

It is still unclear whether this is a right-wing militia member or a left-wing protester belonging to a group such as antifa.
Details should be revealed soon:

Illinois teen arrested in fatal shooting at Kenosha protest, police say | CNN

A 17-year-old Illinois resident connected to an overnight shooting during a protest in Kenosha, Wisconsin, was taken into custody Wednesday morning, according to police in Antioch, Illinois.

www.cnn.com

Are militias typically full of kids in their rank and file?

Seems pretty far fetched to me. Anyone can "claim" anything. Doesn't make it so.

Either way the left have the blood of 30+ people on their hands.

If you are 17 and carrying a gun, you are already breaking the law even if you didn't shoot anybody.

Yup. That is so very true.

Really? We had guns as kids. Even took them to school LEGALLY

I remember growing up in Montana, and during hunting season there were lots of kids who had rifles in the gun racks in their trucks. But, the school only allowed it during hunting season, and the guns had to stay inside the vehicle while on school grounds. And yeah, I've seen a couple of them bag a deer on their way into school (lots of open prairie and grassland around where I grew up). But then again, that was back in the mid 70's to early 80's.

I would have to read up on their laws, but I think carrying a loaded firearm in public is different than carrying an empty gun on a gun rack. In our state, if you do not have a CCW, the ammo has to be separate (out of arms reach) from your weapon. The gun goes in your glove compartment and ammo in the trunk of your car.

Just doing a web search looks like you might be right. It’s illegal to open carry a firearm under age 18. If that’s the case, he may lose his ability to claim self defense as he was committing a crime.

What crime would that be? The crime of self defense?

Did you read my post? It looks like it might be illegal to open carry a firearm under 18. Not to mention he was breaking curfew.

So? Are laws applying to the rioters who also had guns and were out past curfew? Or just this guy?

Obviously the issue here is that this kid killed 2 people and almost killed a third. If any of the other rioters killed people, I expect the same laws to apply.

except for this kid did it to protect himself and the rioters are trying to hurt others,,,

Dunno what he was trying to do. He might have gone there looking for any reason to cause harm. We certainly see the right celebrating violence when it suits them.

My point is that this kid may have committed crimes which might prevent him from claiming self defense. Not a lawyer though

when that happens you let me know,,,until then he was defending himself,,,

I believe he was illegally carrying a firearm.

You would be wrong then again .............Wisconsin, you are allowed to carry weapons--as long as you don't have a criminal record I believe.

He was under 18, which I think is why it might be illegal.

It will depend on the laws of the state. There is no federal law against it.

The law in Wisconsin is it's a crime to be in possession of a firearm if you're under 18.

It's a misdemeanor tho....How does that change anything?

That makes it a crime. Self defense doesn't apply to people in the commission of a crime in Wisconsin.

....So you think you don't have a right to self defense if you have some cocaine in your pocket?

Or are committing tax fraud?

What?

That's what the law states.

That's not how it's interpreted

 

[freyasman]

Ok here's my updated take on this.

1. He wasn't legally allowed to have a gun.

2. He probably shot the first guy in self-defense. I'm not sure what happened leading up to the guy throwing the molotov cocktail if that's really what it was.

3. He definitely shot the other two in self-defense.

Still pretty grey to me. Children shouldn't have guns, but he did defend himself.

There was no molotov cocktail. It was a bag of garbage. The victim can be seen shortly before, picking it up. Pay attention to the guy in the red shirt at the 0:56 mark...

Wow.

You are a disingenuous piece of shit.

Burning trash? Molotov cocktail? WHO GIVES A SHIT AT THIS POINT!

As your own video clearly shows. . . from their own words. . . these are NOT peaceful protestors, but rioters and looters bent on destruction. Good lord man, did you even listen to what they were saying? Their intent was to loot and burn that gas station to the ground, they were deterred, so they switched targets to the police station. . .

THEY ARE NOT PROTESTING AT THIS POINT. . . BUT LOOKING FOR TARGETS TO DESTROY!

Your own video clearly shows this!

There was nothing burning, ya moron.

What's that thing on fire flying through the air, then?

There's nothing on fire. The guy threw a plastic bag which was caught by the bright lights coming from the structure behind it. In another angle, the bag is visibly laying harmlessly on the ground as the guy who threw it is being murdered.

The guy who was aggressively chasing down the teenager? With apparently violent intent?


You mean that guy?

Yup.

Yeah..... kid can probably still make a decent case for self defense if he gets a good lawyer.
And I don't think he'll have any trouble paying for one, I bet there are GoFundMe accounts being set up right now.

I think the bigger issue will not having his butthole gape open more than his lawyer retainer

kid dun fucked up

He's a youngster and a cop groupie; the cagekickers at the jailhouse will keep him safe.

 

[Faun]

It is still unclear whether this is a right-wing militia member or a left-wing protester belonging to a group such as antifa.
Details should be revealed soon:

Illinois teen arrested in fatal shooting at Kenosha protest, police say | CNN

A 17-year-old Illinois resident connected to an overnight shooting during a protest in Kenosha, Wisconsin, was taken into custody Wednesday morning, according to police in Antioch, Illinois.

www.cnn.com

Are militias typically full of kids in their rank and file?

Seems pretty far fetched to me. Anyone can "claim" anything. Doesn't make it so.

Either way the left have the blood of 30+ people on their hands.

If you are 17 and carrying a gun, you are already breaking the law even if you didn't shoot anybody.

Yup. That is so very true.

Really? We had guns as kids. Even took them to school LEGALLY

I remember growing up in Montana, and during hunting season there were lots of kids who had rifles in the gun racks in their trucks. But, the school only allowed it during hunting season, and the guns had to stay inside the vehicle while on school grounds. And yeah, I've seen a couple of them bag a deer on their way into school (lots of open prairie and grassland around where I grew up). But then again, that was back in the mid 70's to early 80's.

I would have to read up on their laws, but I think carrying a loaded firearm in public is different than carrying an empty gun on a gun rack. In our state, if you do not have a CCW, the ammo has to be separate (out of arms reach) from your weapon. The gun goes in your glove compartment and ammo in the trunk of your car.

Just doing a web search looks like you might be right. It’s illegal to open carry a firearm under age 18. If that’s the case, he may lose his ability to claim self defense as he was committing a crime.

What crime would that be? The crime of self defense?

Did you read my post? It looks like it might be illegal to open carry a firearm under 18. Not to mention he was breaking curfew.

So? Are laws applying to the rioters who also had guns and were out past curfew? Or just this guy?

Obviously the issue here is that this kid killed 2 people and almost killed a third. If any of the other rioters killed people, I expect the same laws to apply.

except for this kid did it to protect himself and the rioters are trying to hurt others,,,

Dunno what he was trying to do. He might have gone there looking for any reason to cause harm. We certainly see the right celebrating violence when it suits them.

My point is that this kid may have committed crimes which might prevent him from claiming self defense. Not a lawyer though

when that happens you let me know,,,until then he was defending himself,,,

I believe he was illegally carrying a firearm.

You would be wrong then again .............Wisconsin, you are allowed to carry weapons--as long as you don't have a criminal record I believe.

He was under 18, which I think is why it might be illegal.

It will depend on the laws of the state. There is no federal law against it.

The law in Wisconsin is it's a crime to be in possession of a firearm if you're under 18.

It's a misdemeanor tho....How does that change anything?

That makes it a crime. Self defense doesn't apply to people in the commission of a crime in Wisconsin.

Is that true for misdemeanors, or just felonies though?

A misdemeanor is a crime. The law specifies, "crime."

Link?

And btw, rioting and looting is a crime but in a lot of jurisdictions that doesn't get prosecuted either.

So you might want to slow your roll.

939.48 Self-defense

(b) The presumption described in par. (ar) does not apply if any of the following applies:

1.1. The actor was engaged in a criminal activity

 

[Juicin]

Ok here's my updated take on this.

1. He wasn't legally allowed to have a gun.

2. He probably shot the first guy in self-defense. I'm not sure what happened leading up to the guy throwing the molotov cocktail if that's really what it was.

3. He definitely shot the other two in self-defense.

Still pretty grey to me. Children shouldn't have guns, but he did defend himself.

There was no molotov cocktail. It was a bag of garbage. The victim can be seen shortly before, picking it up. Pay attention to the guy in the red shirt at the 0:56 mark...

Wow.

You are a disingenuous piece of shit.

Burning trash? Molotov cocktail? WHO GIVES A SHIT AT THIS POINT!

As your own video clearly shows. . . from their own words. . . these are NOT peaceful protestors, but rioters and looters bent on destruction. Good lord man, did you even listen to what they were saying? Their intent was to loot and burn that gas station to the ground, they were deterred, so they switched targets to the police station. . .

THEY ARE NOT PROTESTING AT THIS POINT. . . BUT LOOKING FOR TARGETS TO DESTROY!

Your own video clearly shows this!

There was nothing burning, ya moron.

What's that thing on fire flying through the air, then?

There's nothing on fire. The guy threw a plastic bag which was caught by the bright lights coming from the structure behind it. In another angle, the bag is visibly laying harmlessly on the ground as the guy who threw it is being murdered.

The guy who was aggressively chasing down the teenager? With apparently violent intent?


You mean that guy?

Yup.

Yeah..... kid can probably still make a decent case for self defense if he gets a good lawyer.
And I don't think he'll have any trouble paying for one, I bet there are GoFundMe accounts being set up right now.

I think the bigger issue will not having his butthole gape open more than his lawyer retainer

kid dun fucked up

He's a youngster and a cop groupie; the cagekickers at the jailhouse will keep him safe.

hahah true, but over the long term they won't help him if he's not bailed out

some one is gonna find him

 

[Juicin]

It is still unclear whether this is a right-wing militia member or a left-wing protester belonging to a group such as antifa.
Details should be revealed soon:

Illinois teen arrested in fatal shooting at Kenosha protest, police say | CNN

A 17-year-old Illinois resident connected to an overnight shooting during a protest in Kenosha, Wisconsin, was taken into custody Wednesday morning, according to police in Antioch, Illinois.

www.cnn.com

Are militias typically full of kids in their rank and file?

Seems pretty far fetched to me. Anyone can "claim" anything. Doesn't make it so.

Either way the left have the blood of 30+ people on their hands.

If you are 17 and carrying a gun, you are already breaking the law even if you didn't shoot anybody.

Yup. That is so very true.

Really? We had guns as kids. Even took them to school LEGALLY

I remember growing up in Montana, and during hunting season there were lots of kids who had rifles in the gun racks in their trucks. But, the school only allowed it during hunting season, and the guns had to stay inside the vehicle while on school grounds. And yeah, I've seen a couple of them bag a deer on their way into school (lots of open prairie and grassland around where I grew up). But then again, that was back in the mid 70's to early 80's.

I would have to read up on their laws, but I think carrying a loaded firearm in public is different than carrying an empty gun on a gun rack. In our state, if you do not have a CCW, the ammo has to be separate (out of arms reach) from your weapon. The gun goes in your glove compartment and ammo in the trunk of your car.

Just doing a web search looks like you might be right. It’s illegal to open carry a firearm under age 18. If that’s the case, he may lose his ability to claim self defense as he was committing a crime.

What crime would that be? The crime of self defense?

Did you read my post? It looks like it might be illegal to open carry a firearm under 18. Not to mention he was breaking curfew.

So? Are laws applying to the rioters who also had guns and were out past curfew? Or just this guy?

Obviously the issue here is that this kid killed 2 people and almost killed a third. If any of the other rioters killed people, I expect the same laws to apply.

except for this kid did it to protect himself and the rioters are trying to hurt others,,,

Dunno what he was trying to do. He might have gone there looking for any reason to cause harm. We certainly see the right celebrating violence when it suits them.

My point is that this kid may have committed crimes which might prevent him from claiming self defense. Not a lawyer though

when that happens you let me know,,,until then he was defending himself,,,

I believe he was illegally carrying a firearm.

You would be wrong then again .............Wisconsin, you are allowed to carry weapons--as long as you don't have a criminal record I believe.

He was under 18, which I think is why it might be illegal.

It will depend on the laws of the state. There is no federal law against it.

The law in Wisconsin is it's a crime to be in possession of a firearm if you're under 18.

It's a misdemeanor tho....How does that change anything?

That makes it a crime. Self defense doesn't apply to people in the commission of a crime in Wisconsin.

Is that true for misdemeanors, or just felonies though?

A misdemeanor is a crime. The law specifies, "crime."

Link?

And btw, rioting and looting is a crime but in a lot of jurisdictions that doesn't get prosecuted either.

So you might want to slow your roll.

939.48 Self-defense

(b) The presumption described in par. (ar) does not apply if any of the following applies:

1.1. The actor was engaged in a criminal activity

Yea again not how legal interpretations work

Which is why lawyers are always talking about context

You don't give up your right to self defense while jaywalking or speeding bud

Pure stupidity

 

[freyasman]

It is still unclear whether this is a right-wing militia member or a left-wing protester belonging to a group such as antifa.
Details should be revealed soon:

Illinois teen arrested in fatal shooting at Kenosha protest, police say | CNN

A 17-year-old Illinois resident connected to an overnight shooting during a protest in Kenosha, Wisconsin, was taken into custody Wednesday morning, according to police in Antioch, Illinois.

www.cnn.com

Are militias typically full of kids in their rank and file?

Seems pretty far fetched to me. Anyone can "claim" anything. Doesn't make it so.

Either way the left have the blood of 30+ people on their hands.

If you are 17 and carrying a gun, you are already breaking the law even if you didn't shoot anybody.

Yup. That is so very true.

Really? We had guns as kids. Even took them to school LEGALLY

I remember growing up in Montana, and during hunting season there were lots of kids who had rifles in the gun racks in their trucks. But, the school only allowed it during hunting season, and the guns had to stay inside the vehicle while on school grounds. And yeah, I've seen a couple of them bag a deer on their way into school (lots of open prairie and grassland around where I grew up). But then again, that was back in the mid 70's to early 80's.

I would have to read up on their laws, but I think carrying a loaded firearm in public is different than carrying an empty gun on a gun rack. In our state, if you do not have a CCW, the ammo has to be separate (out of arms reach) from your weapon. The gun goes in your glove compartment and ammo in the trunk of your car.

Just doing a web search looks like you might be right. It’s illegal to open carry a firearm under age 18. If that’s the case, he may lose his ability to claim self defense as he was committing a crime.

What crime would that be? The crime of self defense?

Did you read my post? It looks like it might be illegal to open carry a firearm under 18. Not to mention he was breaking curfew.

So? Are laws applying to the rioters who also had guns and were out past curfew? Or just this guy?

Obviously the issue here is that this kid killed 2 people and almost killed a third. If any of the other rioters killed people, I expect the same laws to apply.

except for this kid did it to protect himself and the rioters are trying to hurt others,,,

Dunno what he was trying to do. He might have gone there looking for any reason to cause harm. We certainly see the right celebrating violence when it suits them.

My point is that this kid may have committed crimes which might prevent him from claiming self defense. Not a lawyer though

when that happens you let me know,,,until then he was defending himself,,,

I believe he was illegally carrying a firearm.

You would be wrong then again .............Wisconsin, you are allowed to carry weapons--as long as you don't have a criminal record I believe.

He was under 18, which I think is why it might be illegal.

It will depend on the laws of the state. There is no federal law against it.

The law in Wisconsin is it's a crime to be in possession of a firearm if you're under 18.

It's a misdemeanor tho....How does that change anything?

That makes it a crime. Self defense doesn't apply to people in the commission of a crime in Wisconsin.

Is that true for misdemeanors, or just felonies though?

A misdemeanor is a crime. The law specifies, "crime."

Link?

And btw, rioting and looting is a crime but in a lot of jurisdictions that doesn't get prosecuted either.

So you might want to slow your roll.

939.48 Self-defense

(b) The presumption described in par. (ar) does not apply if any of the following applies:

1.1. The actor was engaged in a criminal activity

IANAL, but don't be surprised if that isn't applied.

It will depend upon the DA.

 

[freyasman]

Ok here's my updated take on this.

1. He wasn't legally allowed to have a gun.

2. He probably shot the first guy in self-defense. I'm not sure what happened leading up to the guy throwing the molotov cocktail if that's really what it was.

3. He definitely shot the other two in self-defense.

Still pretty grey to me. Children shouldn't have guns, but he did defend himself.

There was no molotov cocktail. It was a bag of garbage. The victim can be seen shortly before, picking it up. Pay attention to the guy in the red shirt at the 0:56 mark...

Wow.

You are a disingenuous piece of shit.

Burning trash? Molotov cocktail? WHO GIVES A SHIT AT THIS POINT!

As your own video clearly shows. . . from their own words. . . these are NOT peaceful protestors, but rioters and looters bent on destruction. Good lord man, did you even listen to what they were saying? Their intent was to loot and burn that gas station to the ground, they were deterred, so they switched targets to the police station. . .

THEY ARE NOT PROTESTING AT THIS POINT. . . BUT LOOKING FOR TARGETS TO DESTROY!

Your own video clearly shows this!

There was nothing burning, ya moron.

What's that thing on fire flying through the air, then?

There's nothing on fire. The guy threw a plastic bag which was caught by the bright lights coming from the structure behind it. In another angle, the bag is visibly laying harmlessly on the ground as the guy who threw it is being murdered.

The guy who was aggressively chasing down the teenager? With apparently violent intent?


You mean that guy?

Yup.

Yeah..... kid can probably still make a decent case for self defense if he gets a good lawyer.
And I don't think he'll have any trouble paying for one, I bet there are GoFundMe accounts being set up right now.

I think the bigger issue will not having his butthole gape open more than his lawyer retainer

kid dun fucked up

He's a youngster and a cop groupie; the cagekickers at the jailhouse will keep him safe.

hahah true, but over the long term they won't help him if he's not bailed out

some one is gonna find him

He'll make bail and he will get a good lawyer most likely.

Lots of sympathetic people out there.

 

[Faun]

Ok here's my updated take on this.

1. He wasn't legally allowed to have a gun.

2. He probably shot the first guy in self-defense. I'm not sure what happened leading up to the guy throwing the molotov cocktail if that's really what it was.

3. He definitely shot the other two in self-defense.

Still pretty grey to me. Children shouldn't have guns, but he did defend himself.

There was no molotov cocktail. It was a bag of garbage. The victim can be seen shortly before, picking it up. Pay attention to the guy in the red shirt at the 0:56 mark...

Wow.

You are a disingenuous piece of shit.

Burning trash? Molotov cocktail? WHO GIVES A SHIT AT THIS POINT!

As your own video clearly shows. . . from their own words. . . these are NOT peaceful protestors, but rioters and looters bent on destruction. Good lord man, did you even listen to what they were saying? Their intent was to loot and burn that gas station to the ground, they were deterred, so they switched targets to the police station. . .

THEY ARE NOT PROTESTING AT THIS POINT. . . BUT LOOKING FOR TARGETS TO DESTROY!

Your own video clearly shows this!

There was nothing burning, ya moron.

What's that thing on fire flying through the air, then?

There's nothing on fire. The guy threw a plastic bag which was caught by the bright lights coming from the structure behind it. In another angle, the bag is visibly laying harmlessly on the ground as the guy who threw it is being murdered.

The guy who was aggressively chasing down the teenager? With apparently violent intent?


You mean that guy?

Yup.

Yeah..... kid can probably still make a decent case for self defense if he gets a good lawyer.
And I don't think he'll have any trouble paying for one, I bet there are GoFundMe accounts being set up right now.

I think the bigger issue will not having his butthole gape open more than his lawyer retainer

kid dun fucked up

He's a youngster and a cop groupie; the cagekickers at the jailhouse will keep him safe.

LOL

For the rest of his life?

 

[freyasman]

Ok here's my updated take on this.

1. He wasn't legally allowed to have a gun.

2. He probably shot the first guy in self-defense. I'm not sure what happened leading up to the guy throwing the molotov cocktail if that's really what it was.

3. He definitely shot the other two in self-defense.

Still pretty grey to me. Children shouldn't have guns, but he did defend himself.

There was no molotov cocktail. It was a bag of garbage. The victim can be seen shortly before, picking it up. Pay attention to the guy in the red shirt at the 0:56 mark...

Wow.

You are a disingenuous piece of shit.

Burning trash? Molotov cocktail? WHO GIVES A SHIT AT THIS POINT!

As your own video clearly shows. . . from their own words. . . these are NOT peaceful protestors, but rioters and looters bent on destruction. Good lord man, did you even listen to what they were saying? Their intent was to loot and burn that gas station to the ground, they were deterred, so they switched targets to the police station. . .

THEY ARE NOT PROTESTING AT THIS POINT. . . BUT LOOKING FOR TARGETS TO DESTROY!

Your own video clearly shows this!

There was nothing burning, ya moron.

What's that thing on fire flying through the air, then?

There's nothing on fire. The guy threw a plastic bag which was caught by the bright lights coming from the structure behind it. In another angle, the bag is visibly laying harmlessly on the ground as the guy who threw it is being murdered.

The guy who was aggressively chasing down the teenager? With apparently violent intent?


You mean that guy?

Yup.

Yeah..... kid can probably still make a decent case for self defense if he gets a good lawyer.
And I don't think he'll have any trouble paying for one, I bet there are GoFundMe accounts being set up right now.

I think the bigger issue will not having his butthole gape open more than his lawyer retainer

kid dun fucked up

He's a youngster and a cop groupie; the cagekickers at the jailhouse will keep him safe.

LOL

For the rest of his life?

You sure do seem gleeful at the thought of this kid being thrown to the wolves.

What does that say about you?




I remember how I felt when people thought the abuse I suffered as a kid was funny..... you should be careful to never get near me. I'll share some of it with you if you do.

 

[Faun]

It is still unclear whether this is a right-wing militia member or a left-wing protester belonging to a group such as antifa.
Details should be revealed soon:

Illinois teen arrested in fatal shooting at Kenosha protest, police say | CNN

A 17-year-old Illinois resident connected to an overnight shooting during a protest in Kenosha, Wisconsin, was taken into custody Wednesday morning, according to police in Antioch, Illinois.

www.cnn.com

Are militias typically full of kids in their rank and file?

Seems pretty far fetched to me. Anyone can "claim" anything. Doesn't make it so.

Either way the left have the blood of 30+ people on their hands.

If you are 17 and carrying a gun, you are already breaking the law even if you didn't shoot anybody.

Yup. That is so very true.

Really? We had guns as kids. Even took them to school LEGALLY

I remember growing up in Montana, and during hunting season there were lots of kids who had rifles in the gun racks in their trucks. But, the school only allowed it during hunting season, and the guns had to stay inside the vehicle while on school grounds. And yeah, I've seen a couple of them bag a deer on their way into school (lots of open prairie and grassland around where I grew up). But then again, that was back in the mid 70's to early 80's.

I would have to read up on their laws, but I think carrying a loaded firearm in public is different than carrying an empty gun on a gun rack. In our state, if you do not have a CCW, the ammo has to be separate (out of arms reach) from your weapon. The gun goes in your glove compartment and ammo in the trunk of your car.

Just doing a web search looks like you might be right. It’s illegal to open carry a firearm under age 18. If that’s the case, he may lose his ability to claim self defense as he was committing a crime.

What crime would that be? The crime of self defense?

Did you read my post? It looks like it might be illegal to open carry a firearm under 18. Not to mention he was breaking curfew.

So? Are laws applying to the rioters who also had guns and were out past curfew? Or just this guy?

Obviously the issue here is that this kid killed 2 people and almost killed a third. If any of the other rioters killed people, I expect the same laws to apply.

except for this kid did it to protect himself and the rioters are trying to hurt others,,,

Dunno what he was trying to do. He might have gone there looking for any reason to cause harm. We certainly see the right celebrating violence when it suits them.

My point is that this kid may have committed crimes which might prevent him from claiming self defense. Not a lawyer though

when that happens you let me know,,,until then he was defending himself,,,

I believe he was illegally carrying a firearm.

You would be wrong then again .............Wisconsin, you are allowed to carry weapons--as long as you don't have a criminal record I believe.

He was under 18, which I think is why it might be illegal.

It will depend on the laws of the state. There is no federal law against it.

The law in Wisconsin is it's a crime to be in possession of a firearm if you're under 18.

It's a misdemeanor tho....How does that change anything?

That makes it a crime. Self defense doesn't apply to people in the commission of a crime in Wisconsin.

Is that true for misdemeanors, or just felonies though?

A misdemeanor is a crime. The law specifies, "crime."

Link?

And btw, rioting and looting is a crime but in a lot of jurisdictions that doesn't get prosecuted either.

So you might want to slow your roll.

939.48 Self-defense

(b) The presumption described in par. (ar) does not apply if any of the following applies:

1.1. The actor was engaged in a criminal activity

Yea again not how legal interpretations work

Which is why lawyers are always talking about context

You don't give up your right to self defense while jaywalking or speeding bud

Pure stupidity

LOL

You think a jaywalker in Wisconsin has the legal right to kill an oncoming driver??

 

[Faun]

Ok here's my updated take on this.

1. He wasn't legally allowed to have a gun.

2. He probably shot the first guy in self-defense. I'm not sure what happened leading up to the guy throwing the molotov cocktail if that's really what it was.

3. He definitely shot the other two in self-defense.

Still pretty grey to me. Children shouldn't have guns, but he did defend himself.

There was no molotov cocktail. It was a bag of garbage. The victim can be seen shortly before, picking it up. Pay attention to the guy in the red shirt at the 0:56 mark...

Wow.

You are a disingenuous piece of shit.

Burning trash? Molotov cocktail? WHO GIVES A SHIT AT THIS POINT!

As your own video clearly shows. . . from their own words. . . these are NOT peaceful protestors, but rioters and looters bent on destruction. Good lord man, did you even listen to what they were saying? Their intent was to loot and burn that gas station to the ground, they were deterred, so they switched targets to the police station. . .

THEY ARE NOT PROTESTING AT THIS POINT. . . BUT LOOKING FOR TARGETS TO DESTROY!

Your own video clearly shows this!

There was nothing burning, ya moron.

What's that thing on fire flying through the air, then?

There's nothing on fire. The guy threw a plastic bag which was caught by the bright lights coming from the structure behind it. In another angle, the bag is visibly laying harmlessly on the ground as the guy who threw it is being murdered.

The guy who was aggressively chasing down the teenager? With apparently violent intent?


You mean that guy?

Yup.

Yeah..... kid can probably still make a decent case for self defense if he gets a good lawyer.
And I don't think he'll have any trouble paying for one, I bet there are GoFundMe accounts being set up right now.

I think the bigger issue will not having his butthole gape open more than his lawyer retainer

kid dun fucked up

He's a youngster and a cop groupie; the cagekickers at the jailhouse will keep him safe.

LOL

For the rest of his life?

You sure do seem gleeful at the thought of this kid being thrown to the wolves.

What does that say about you?




I remember how I felt when people thought the abuse I suffered as a kid was funny..... you should be careful to never get near me. I'll share some of it with you if you do.

Of course I do. He murdered 2 people. It's too bad Wisconsin doesn't have the death penalty.

 

[freyasman]

Ok here's my updated take on this.

1. He wasn't legally allowed to have a gun.

2. He probably shot the first guy in self-defense. I'm not sure what happened leading up to the guy throwing the molotov cocktail if that's really what it was.

3. He definitely shot the other two in self-defense.

Still pretty grey to me. Children shouldn't have guns, but he did defend himself.

There was no molotov cocktail. It was a bag of garbage. The victim can be seen shortly before, picking it up. Pay attention to the guy in the red shirt at the 0:56 mark...

Wow.

You are a disingenuous piece of shit.

Burning trash? Molotov cocktail? WHO GIVES A SHIT AT THIS POINT!

As your own video clearly shows. . . from their own words. . . these are NOT peaceful protestors, but rioters and looters bent on destruction. Good lord man, did you even listen to what they were saying? Their intent was to loot and burn that gas station to the ground, they were deterred, so they switched targets to the police station. . .

THEY ARE NOT PROTESTING AT THIS POINT. . . BUT LOOKING FOR TARGETS TO DESTROY!

Your own video clearly shows this!

There was nothing burning, ya moron.

What's that thing on fire flying through the air, then?

There's nothing on fire. The guy threw a plastic bag which was caught by the bright lights coming from the structure behind it. In another angle, the bag is visibly laying harmlessly on the ground as the guy who threw it is being murdered.

The guy who was aggressively chasing down the teenager? With apparently violent intent?


You mean that guy?

Yup.

Yeah..... kid can probably still make a decent case for self defense if he gets a good lawyer.
And I don't think he'll have any trouble paying for one, I bet there are GoFundMe accounts being set up right now.

I think the bigger issue will not having his butthole gape open more than his lawyer retainer

kid dun fucked up

He's a youngster and a cop groupie; the cagekickers at the jailhouse will keep him safe.

LOL

For the rest of his life?

You sure do seem gleeful at the thought of this kid being thrown to the wolves.

What does that say about you?




I remember how I felt when people thought the abuse I suffered as a kid was funny..... you should be careful to never get near me. I'll share some of it with you if you do.

Of course I do. He murdered 2 people. It's too bad Wisconsin doesn't have the death penalty.

He killed 2 people. That's not the same thing.

 

[Turtlesoup]

So Tamir Rice gets shot and killed over a toy gun even though he harmed no one but this guy gets to murder people, march down the road with his gun and gets to go home?

If people had rioted over Tamir Rice you'd probably see like 95% support

There were protests. No, there was not 95% support. There was even less of a reason for Elijah McClain to have been killed. Where is the support?

McClain resisted arrest

And wasn't in middle school

There was NO reason to arrest him. You don't arrest someone for walking home from the store..........unless you are black of course.

You arrest people for not following commands...?

Certainly don't struggle

Guy was either crazy or just so angry he was in that moment manic

Yes, he had social anxiety issues. But cops are going to learn that you don't assault someone while doing nothing illegal just because they do not jump when you say jump.

We will get there or the country will burn.

Again as soon as he failed to follow commands he was doing something illegal

No he wasn't.

It was his fault he has fucking anxiety not the worlds

Cops did the right thing. Even sent him off in an ambulance instead of beating teh shit out of him and putting him in a cell. Maybe the paramedics killed him or his anxiety. Wasn't the cops

The cops only assaulted him which lead to the rest. If they had left him alone like they should have none of it happens.

Failing to follow a lawful order is illegal

Now had he said get on your knees and give me a bj yea he'd have a right to not comply

All he had to do was stop and look at them, then sue them

It wasn't lawful.

Yes it was....

Your redress is suing the officers not struggling.

No it was not. He had done nothing wrong and the police had no reason to believe he had. In that case they have no lawful reason to stop you.

It doesn't matter. If a cop tells me to stop I have to stop. Whether i was doing something wrong or not.

That's how our law works.

I'm sure there is a legal phrase for it that google would reveal. You don't seem to understand how our law around policing works.

If they want to detain me and I physically resist....that's resisting arrest

Whether or not was a good arrest needs lawyers. As a citizen I have to submit.

Weren’t the cops called there? Why? by the way, them showing up put their lives in harms way. If one can’t appreciate that they are not worth any further part of this

Some lady called and said that while she didn't know that the person had done something illegal that there was a black man walking home in an animated manner. There is nothing illegal in that.

How does it change the cops entering into an unknown scenario? Are you saying their lives don’t matter? What if they’re black?

I'm saying that there is still no facts to show that they had any reason to stop him from going home.

It's too bad we'll never know and he would have never won taht suit because he resisted a lawful order and justified everything they were doing.

They probably wouldn't have arrested him tho. For what?

He didn't do anything besides resist

This is why the cities are burning.

If that's all? Then i'm behind killing people too

Again not an example to riot over

What the fuck is wrong with you guys?

Or this one, where the guy was told to get his license then the guy shot him for doing what he was told.



Putting down people who resist lawful orders is just how the country works. You think white people get away with resisting arrest?

Here is a white guy dying in the same way floyd died



Pick better victims

Yes, I showed where I got away with telling an officer no. He had no legal right to demand otherwise but if you prefer to see the country burn...........

The protests are going to expand beyond sports also. When it starts affecting people with money bottom lines they are going to demand change also.

Those with can not defeat those without. They have little to lose.

Telling him no means nothing. He was a fucking masseuse not a lawyer. Even if he was a lawyer the cops don't have to care.

That's something for the DA and your lawyers to sort out. A judge if it gets that far

If you resist when a cop grabs you, you've committed a crime. Rest doesn't matter. At all. THere is no legal carve out to resist a lawful order.

And just because a judge later finds the stop wasn't constitutional or have any legal backing doesn't make the order unlawful.

That thousands get huge pay days says it is. You don't get paid off for refusing a lawful order. Civil rights still mean at least something in this country.

A lawyer will tell you it's all about the context

In this case, as another user pointed out. If they just come up and harass you a bit. There isn't much you can do beyond file a complaint if you want

You will get no redress from a court

That's all that should have happened. If he really wanted to milk it he could have just silently looked at them like he was deaf and mute and they definitely would have arrested him and he would ahve got paid. I'm like 95%+ sure.

But more than likely they woulda just asked for ID, he might have said yes or no. And if they were smart they would have just let him walk because he wasn't doing anything. And it wouldn't be worth the lawyer to even try to sue em

Instead he thought because they were racially profiling him that gave him a right to resist. Which will negate any payout he might have had coming

The cops are going to learn to not harass people while doing nothing. Otherwise more things are going to get shut down and burned.

No what is going to happen is that the cops are going to stop policing so Americans will start taking the law into their own hands. The cops going after criminals, which the black cultural just seems to love, is not harassment but law enforcement. It is meant to keep people safe especially other black people. Without it, people will be forced to start killing criminals themselves so more dead black criminals but also more dead innocent black people as criminals typically attack their own race more often.


It's really stupid to claim cops are harassing blacks when the truth is without cops investigating crime and profiling-----more blacks will be murdered by other blacks.

 

[Turtlesoup]

Ok here's my updated take on this.

1. He wasn't legally allowed to have a gun.

2. He probably shot the first guy in self-defense. I'm not sure what happened leading up to the guy throwing the molotov cocktail if that's really what it was.

3. He definitely shot the other two in self-defense.

Still pretty grey to me. Children shouldn't have guns, but he did defend himself.

There was no molotov cocktail. It was a bag of garbage. The victim can be seen shortly before, picking it up. Pay attention to the guy in the red shirt at the 0:56 mark...

Wow.

You are a disingenuous piece of shit.

Burning trash? Molotov cocktail? WHO GIVES A SHIT AT THIS POINT!

As your own video clearly shows. . . from their own words. . . these are NOT peaceful protestors, but rioters and looters bent on destruction. Good lord man, did you even listen to what they were saying? Their intent was to loot and burn that gas station to the ground, they were deterred, so they switched targets to the police station. . .

THEY ARE NOT PROTESTING AT THIS POINT. . . BUT LOOKING FOR TARGETS TO DESTROY!

Your own video clearly shows this!

There was nothing burning, ya moron.

What's that thing on fire flying through the air, then?

There's nothing on fire. The guy threw a plastic bag which was caught by the bright lights coming from the structure behind it. In another angle, the bag is visibly laying harmlessly on the ground as the guy who threw it is being murdered.

The guy who was aggressively chasing down the teenager? With apparently violent intent?


You mean that guy?

Yup.

Yeah..... kid can probably still make a decent case for self defense if he gets a good lawyer.
And I don't think he'll have any trouble paying for one, I bet there are GoFundMe accounts being set up right now.

I think the bigger issue will not having his butthole gape open more than his lawyer retainer

kid dun fucked up

He's a youngster and a cop groupie; the cagekickers at the jailhouse will keep him safe.

LOL

For the rest of his life?

You sure do seem gleeful at the thought of this kid being thrown to the wolves.

What does that say about you?




I remember how I felt when people thought the abuse I suffered as a kid was funny..... you should be careful to never get near me. I'll share some of it with you if you do.

Of course I do. He murdered 2 people. It's too bad Wisconsin doesn't have the death penalty.

He didn't murder-----and btw Wisconsin has Castle doctrine laws---------he was defending himself and other people because lets face it, blm is a terrorist organization with a now a long history of attacking other people.

 

[Juicin]

It is still unclear whether this is a right-wing militia member or a left-wing protester belonging to a group such as antifa.
Details should be revealed soon:

Illinois teen arrested in fatal shooting at Kenosha protest, police say | CNN

A 17-year-old Illinois resident connected to an overnight shooting during a protest in Kenosha, Wisconsin, was taken into custody Wednesday morning, according to police in Antioch, Illinois.

www.cnn.com

Are militias typically full of kids in their rank and file?

Seems pretty far fetched to me. Anyone can "claim" anything. Doesn't make it so.

Either way the left have the blood of 30+ people on their hands.

If you are 17 and carrying a gun, you are already breaking the law even if you didn't shoot anybody.

Yup. That is so very true.

Really? We had guns as kids. Even took them to school LEGALLY

I remember growing up in Montana, and during hunting season there were lots of kids who had rifles in the gun racks in their trucks. But, the school only allowed it during hunting season, and the guns had to stay inside the vehicle while on school grounds. And yeah, I've seen a couple of them bag a deer on their way into school (lots of open prairie and grassland around where I grew up). But then again, that was back in the mid 70's to early 80's.

I would have to read up on their laws, but I think carrying a loaded firearm in public is different than carrying an empty gun on a gun rack. In our state, if you do not have a CCW, the ammo has to be separate (out of arms reach) from your weapon. The gun goes in your glove compartment and ammo in the trunk of your car.

Just doing a web search looks like you might be right. It’s illegal to open carry a firearm under age 18. If that’s the case, he may lose his ability to claim self defense as he was committing a crime.

What crime would that be? The crime of self defense?

Did you read my post? It looks like it might be illegal to open carry a firearm under 18. Not to mention he was breaking curfew.

So? Are laws applying to the rioters who also had guns and were out past curfew? Or just this guy?

Obviously the issue here is that this kid killed 2 people and almost killed a third. If any of the other rioters killed people, I expect the same laws to apply.

except for this kid did it to protect himself and the rioters are trying to hurt others,,,

Dunno what he was trying to do. He might have gone there looking for any reason to cause harm. We certainly see the right celebrating violence when it suits them.

My point is that this kid may have committed crimes which might prevent him from claiming self defense. Not a lawyer though

when that happens you let me know,,,until then he was defending himself,,,

I believe he was illegally carrying a firearm.

You would be wrong then again .............Wisconsin, you are allowed to carry weapons--as long as you don't have a criminal record I believe.

He was under 18, which I think is why it might be illegal.

It will depend on the laws of the state. There is no federal law against it.

The law in Wisconsin is it's a crime to be in possession of a firearm if you're under 18.

It's a misdemeanor tho....How does that change anything?

That makes it a crime. Self defense doesn't apply to people in the commission of a crime in Wisconsin.

Is that true for misdemeanors, or just felonies though?

A misdemeanor is a crime. The law specifies, "crime."

Link?

And btw, rioting and looting is a crime but in a lot of jurisdictions that doesn't get prosecuted either.

So you might want to slow your roll.

939.48 Self-defense

(b) The presumption described in par. (ar) does not apply if any of the following applies:

1.1. The actor was engaged in a criminal activity

Yea again not how legal interpretations work

Which is why lawyers are always talking about context

You don't give up your right to self defense while jaywalking or speeding bud

Pure stupidity

LOL

You think a jaywalker in Wisconsin has the legal right to kill an oncoming driver??

If the guy is actively trying to run him over? Yes lol

Otherwise it's not self defense

 

[Juicin]

Ok here's my updated take on this.

1. He wasn't legally allowed to have a gun.

2. He probably shot the first guy in self-defense. I'm not sure what happened leading up to the guy throwing the molotov cocktail if that's really what it was.

3. He definitely shot the other two in self-defense.

Still pretty grey to me. Children shouldn't have guns, but he did defend himself.

There was no molotov cocktail. It was a bag of garbage. The victim can be seen shortly before, picking it up. Pay attention to the guy in the red shirt at the 0:56 mark...

Wow.

You are a disingenuous piece of shit.

Burning trash? Molotov cocktail? WHO GIVES A SHIT AT THIS POINT!

As your own video clearly shows. . . from their own words. . . these are NOT peaceful protestors, but rioters and looters bent on destruction. Good lord man, did you even listen to what they were saying? Their intent was to loot and burn that gas station to the ground, they were deterred, so they switched targets to the police station. . .

THEY ARE NOT PROTESTING AT THIS POINT. . . BUT LOOKING FOR TARGETS TO DESTROY!

Your own video clearly shows this!

There was nothing burning, ya moron.

What's that thing on fire flying through the air, then?

There's nothing on fire. The guy threw a plastic bag which was caught by the bright lights coming from the structure behind it. In another angle, the bag is visibly laying harmlessly on the ground as the guy who threw it is being murdered.

The guy who was aggressively chasing down the teenager? With apparently violent intent?


You mean that guy?

Yup.

Yeah..... kid can probably still make a decent case for self defense if he gets a good lawyer.
And I don't think he'll have any trouble paying for one, I bet there are GoFundMe accounts being set up right now.

I think the bigger issue will not having his butthole gape open more than his lawyer retainer

kid dun fucked up

He's a youngster and a cop groupie; the cagekickers at the jailhouse will keep him safe.

LOL

For the rest of his life?

You sure do seem gleeful at the thought of this kid being thrown to the wolves.

What does that say about you?




I remember how I felt when people thought the abuse I suffered as a kid was funny..... you should be careful to never get near me. I'll share some of it with you if you do.

Of course I do. He murdered 2 people. It's too bad Wisconsin doesn't have the death penalty.

He didn't murder-----and btw Wisconsin has Castle doctrine laws---------he was defending himself and other people because lets face it, blm is a terrorist organization with a now a long history of attacking other people.

Castle doctrine only applies to your home and other property

Castle doctrine has nothing to do with a family owned business much less a random car dealership

Unless you're in the business directly, "occupying" it

 

[Faun]

Ok here's my updated take on this.

1. He wasn't legally allowed to have a gun.

2. He probably shot the first guy in self-defense. I'm not sure what happened leading up to the guy throwing the molotov cocktail if that's really what it was.

3. He definitely shot the other two in self-defense.

Still pretty grey to me. Children shouldn't have guns, but he did defend himself.

There was no molotov cocktail. It was a bag of garbage. The victim can be seen shortly before, picking it up. Pay attention to the guy in the red shirt at the 0:56 mark...

Wow.

You are a disingenuous piece of shit.

Burning trash? Molotov cocktail? WHO GIVES A SHIT AT THIS POINT!

As your own video clearly shows. . . from their own words. . . these are NOT peaceful protestors, but rioters and looters bent on destruction. Good lord man, did you even listen to what they were saying? Their intent was to loot and burn that gas station to the ground, they were deterred, so they switched targets to the police station. . .

THEY ARE NOT PROTESTING AT THIS POINT. . . BUT LOOKING FOR TARGETS TO DESTROY!

Your own video clearly shows this!

There was nothing burning, ya moron.

What's that thing on fire flying through the air, then?

There's nothing on fire. The guy threw a plastic bag which was caught by the bright lights coming from the structure behind it. In another angle, the bag is visibly laying harmlessly on the ground as the guy who threw it is being murdered.

The guy who was aggressively chasing down the teenager? With apparently violent intent?


You mean that guy?

Yup.

Yeah..... kid can probably still make a decent case for self defense if he gets a good lawyer.
And I don't think he'll have any trouble paying for one, I bet there are GoFundMe accounts being set up right now.

I think the bigger issue will not having his butthole gape open more than his lawyer retainer

kid dun fucked up

He's a youngster and a cop groupie; the cagekickers at the jailhouse will keep him safe.

LOL

For the rest of his life?

You sure do seem gleeful at the thought of this kid being thrown to the wolves.

What does that say about you?




I remember how I felt when people thought the abuse I suffered as a kid was funny..... you should be careful to never get near me. I'll share some of it with you if you do.

Of course I do. He murdered 2 people. It's too bad Wisconsin doesn't have the death penalty.

He killed 2 people. That's not the same thing.

Nope, he murdered them.

 

[Turtlesoup]

Ok here's my updated take on this.

1. He wasn't legally allowed to have a gun.

2. He probably shot the first guy in self-defense. I'm not sure what happened leading up to the guy throwing the molotov cocktail if that's really what it was.

3. He definitely shot the other two in self-defense.

Still pretty grey to me. Children shouldn't have guns, but he did defend himself.

There was no molotov cocktail. It was a bag of garbage. The victim can be seen shortly before, picking it up. Pay attention to the guy in the red shirt at the 0:56 mark...

Wow.

You are a disingenuous piece of shit.

Burning trash? Molotov cocktail? WHO GIVES A SHIT AT THIS POINT!

As your own video clearly shows. . . from their own words. . . these are NOT peaceful protestors, but rioters and looters bent on destruction. Good lord man, did you even listen to what they were saying? Their intent was to loot and burn that gas station to the ground, they were deterred, so they switched targets to the police station. . .

THEY ARE NOT PROTESTING AT THIS POINT. . . BUT LOOKING FOR TARGETS TO DESTROY!

Your own video clearly shows this!

There was nothing burning, ya moron.

What's that thing on fire flying through the air, then?

There's nothing on fire. The guy threw a plastic bag which was caught by the bright lights coming from the structure behind it. In another angle, the bag is visibly laying harmlessly on the ground as the guy who threw it is being murdered.

The guy who was aggressively chasing down the teenager? With apparently violent intent?


You mean that guy?

Yup.

Yeah..... kid can probably still make a decent case for self defense if he gets a good lawyer.
And I don't think he'll have any trouble paying for one, I bet there are GoFundMe accounts being set up right now.

I think the bigger issue will not having his butthole gape open more than his lawyer retainer

kid dun fucked up

He's a youngster and a cop groupie; the cagekickers at the jailhouse will keep him safe.

LOL

For the rest of his life?

You sure do seem gleeful at the thought of this kid being thrown to the wolves.

What does that say about you?




I remember how I felt when people thought the abuse I suffered as a kid was funny..... you should be careful to never get near me. I'll share some of it with you if you do.

Of course I do. He murdered 2 people. It's too bad Wisconsin doesn't have the death penalty.

He didn't murder-----and btw Wisconsin has Castle doctrine laws---------he was defending himself and other people because lets face it, blm is a terrorist organization with a now a long history of attacking other people.

Castle doctrine only applies to your home and other property

Castle doctrine has nothing to do with a family owned business much less a random car dealership

Unless you're in the business directly, "occupying" it

Also applies to ones' vehicle----------and i am not sure about Wisconsin but in Texas used to the castile doctrine applied to defending your neighbors and others as well.

 

[Faun]

Ok here's my updated take on this.

1. He wasn't legally allowed to have a gun.

2. He probably shot the first guy in self-defense. I'm not sure what happened leading up to the guy throwing the molotov cocktail if that's really what it was.

3. He definitely shot the other two in self-defense.

Still pretty grey to me. Children shouldn't have guns, but he did defend himself.

There was no molotov cocktail. It was a bag of garbage. The victim can be seen shortly before, picking it up. Pay attention to the guy in the red shirt at the 0:56 mark...

Wow.

You are a disingenuous piece of shit.

Burning trash? Molotov cocktail? WHO GIVES A SHIT AT THIS POINT!

As your own video clearly shows. . . from their own words. . . these are NOT peaceful protestors, but rioters and looters bent on destruction. Good lord man, did you even listen to what they were saying? Their intent was to loot and burn that gas station to the ground, they were deterred, so they switched targets to the police station. . .

THEY ARE NOT PROTESTING AT THIS POINT. . . BUT LOOKING FOR TARGETS TO DESTROY!

Your own video clearly shows this!

There was nothing burning, ya moron.

What's that thing on fire flying through the air, then?

There's nothing on fire. The guy threw a plastic bag which was caught by the bright lights coming from the structure behind it. In another angle, the bag is visibly laying harmlessly on the ground as the guy who threw it is being murdered.

The guy who was aggressively chasing down the teenager? With apparently violent intent?


You mean that guy?

Yup.

Yeah..... kid can probably still make a decent case for self defense if he gets a good lawyer.
And I don't think he'll have any trouble paying for one, I bet there are GoFundMe accounts being set up right now.

I think the bigger issue will not having his butthole gape open more than his lawyer retainer

kid dun fucked up

He's a youngster and a cop groupie; the cagekickers at the jailhouse will keep him safe.

LOL

For the rest of his life?

You sure do seem gleeful at the thought of this kid being thrown to the wolves.

What does that say about you?




I remember how I felt when people thought the abuse I suffered as a kid was funny..... you should be careful to never get near me. I'll share some of it with you if you do.

Of course I do. He murdered 2 people. It's too bad Wisconsin doesn't have the death penalty.

He didn't murder-----and btw Wisconsin has Castle doctrine laws---------he was defending himself and other people because lets face it, blm is a terrorist organization with a now a long history of attacking other people.

LOLOL

You dumbfuck, castle doctrine means you have the right to use lethal force if someone is illegally trying to enter your property. The teen murderer wasn't even in the same state as his residence.

Wisconsin Legislature: 939.48(1m)

docs.legis.wisconsin.gov

The person against whom the force was used was in the process of unlawfully and forcibly entering the actor's dwelling, motor vehicle, or place of business, the actor was present in the dwelling, motor vehicle, or place of business, and the actor knew or reasonably believed that an unlawful and forcible entry was occurring.​

You're truly a fucking nut.

 

[freyasman]

Ok here's my updated take on this.

1. He wasn't legally allowed to have a gun.

2. He probably shot the first guy in self-defense. I'm not sure what happened leading up to the guy throwing the molotov cocktail if that's really what it was.

3. He definitely shot the other two in self-defense.

Still pretty grey to me. Children shouldn't have guns, but he did defend himself.

There was no molotov cocktail. It was a bag of garbage. The victim can be seen shortly before, picking it up. Pay attention to the guy in the red shirt at the 0:56 mark...

Wow.

You are a disingenuous piece of shit.

Burning trash? Molotov cocktail? WHO GIVES A SHIT AT THIS POINT!

As your own video clearly shows. . . from their own words. . . these are NOT peaceful protestors, but rioters and looters bent on destruction. Good lord man, did you even listen to what they were saying? Their intent was to loot and burn that gas station to the ground, they were deterred, so they switched targets to the police station. . .

THEY ARE NOT PROTESTING AT THIS POINT. . . BUT LOOKING FOR TARGETS TO DESTROY!

Your own video clearly shows this!

There was nothing burning, ya moron.

What's that thing on fire flying through the air, then?

There's nothing on fire. The guy threw a plastic bag which was caught by the bright lights coming from the structure behind it. In another angle, the bag is visibly laying harmlessly on the ground as the guy who threw it is being murdered.

The guy who was aggressively chasing down the teenager? With apparently violent intent?


You mean that guy?

Yup.

Yeah..... kid can probably still make a decent case for self defense if he gets a good lawyer.
And I don't think he'll have any trouble paying for one, I bet there are GoFundMe accounts being set up right now.

I think the bigger issue will not having his butthole gape open more than his lawyer retainer

kid dun fucked up

He's a youngster and a cop groupie; the cagekickers at the jailhouse will keep him safe.

LOL

For the rest of his life?

You sure do seem gleeful at the thought of this kid being thrown to the wolves.

What does that say about you?




I remember how I felt when people thought the abuse I suffered as a kid was funny..... you should be careful to never get near me. I'll share some of it with you if you do.

Of course I do. He murdered 2 people. It's too bad Wisconsin doesn't have the death penalty.

He killed 2 people. That's not the same thing.

Nope, he murdered them.

It didn't look that way to me and I know more about this than you ever will.