Texas church shooter shot babies in the face at point-blank range...

[2aguy]

View attachment 159254

Homicide Deaths per 100,000 people...all those white areas...you know, where all the guns are...hardly any...the darkest red areas East and West? That's St Louis and Kansas City...The part of the state with the lowest concentration of legally owned firearms.

Yes the parts with the population. Obviously where there are lots of people there is more crime. And a country with lots of legal firearms is guaranteed to have lots of illegal.

Don't even try it. Per 100,000 is per 100,000.

It is safer where the highest concentration of guns are. Blows a huge hole in your "more guns, more killing" theory.

More guns, less killing.

Guns aren't the problem.

Exactly the opposite of what statics tell us.

More guns more mass shootings.

No....more gun free zones...more killing zones for mass shooters...

 

[otto105]

View attachment 159254

Homicide Deaths per 100,000 people...all those white areas...you know, where all the guns are...hardly any...the darkest red areas East and West? That's St Louis and Kansas City...The part of the state with the lowest concentration of legally owned firearms.

Yes the parts with the population. Obviously where there are lots of people there is more crime. And a country with lots of legal firearms is guaranteed to have lots of illegal.

Don't even try it. Per 100,000 is per 100,000.

It is safer where the highest concentration of guns are. Blows a huge hole in your "more guns, more killing" theory.

More guns, less killing.

Guns aren't the problem.

Exactly the opposite of what statics tell us.

More guns more mass shootings.

No....more gun free zones...more killing zones for mass shooters...

All of the civilized countries in the world don't have the number of mass killings that we apparently have accepted as normal.


And you bring that ignorant post.


You're probably too stupid to be proud.

 

[Weatherman2020]

View attachment 159254

Homicide Deaths per 100,000 people...all those white areas...you know, where all the guns are...hardly any...the darkest red areas East and West? That's St Louis and Kansas City...The part of the state with the lowest concentration of legally owned firearms.

Yes the parts with the population. Obviously where there are lots of people there is more crime. And a country with lots of legal firearms is guaranteed to have lots of illegal.

Don't even try it. Per 100,000 is per 100,000.

It is safer where the highest concentration of guns are. Blows a huge hole in your "more guns, more killing" theory.

More guns, less killing.

Guns aren't the problem.

Exactly the opposite of what statics tell us.

More guns more mass shootings.

No....more gun free zones...more killing zones for mass shooters...

Without using names my church makes it known some members may be carrying. Bad guys only hit soft targets.

 

[Weatherman2020]

View attachment 159254

Homicide Deaths per 100,000 people...all those white areas...you know, where all the guns are...hardly any...the darkest red areas East and West? That's St Louis and Kansas City...The part of the state with the lowest concentration of legally owned firearms.

Yes the parts with the population. Obviously where there are lots of people there is more crime. And a country with lots of legal firearms is guaranteed to have lots of illegal.

Don't even try it. Per 100,000 is per 100,000.

It is safer where the highest concentration of guns are. Blows a huge hole in your "more guns, more killing" theory.

More guns, less killing.

Guns aren't the problem.

Exactly the opposite of what statics tell us.

More guns more mass shootings.

No....more gun free zones...more killing zones for mass shooters...

All of the civilized countries in the world don't have the number of mass killings that we apparently have accepted as normal.


And you bring that ignorant post.


You're probably too stupid to be proud.

They don’t have leftist broken families either.

 

[2aguy]

View attachment 159254

Homicide Deaths per 100,000 people...all those white areas...you know, where all the guns are...hardly any...the darkest red areas East and West? That's St Louis and Kansas City...The part of the state with the lowest concentration of legally owned firearms.

Yes the parts with the population. Obviously where there are lots of people there is more crime. And a country with lots of legal firearms is guaranteed to have lots of illegal.

Don't even try it. Per 100,000 is per 100,000.

It is safer where the highest concentration of guns are. Blows a huge hole in your "more guns, more killing" theory.

More guns, less killing.

Guns aren't the problem.

Exactly the opposite of what statics tell us.

More guns more mass shootings.

No....more gun free zones...more killing zones for mass shooters...

All of the civilized countries in the world don't have the number of mass killings that we apparently have accepted as normal.


And you bring that ignorant post.


You're probably too stupid to be proud.

You forgot the word..."Yet," since all of those countries are now having major spikes in gun crime....while our gun crime rates are going down...

Why Sweden has more fatal shootings per capita than Norway and Germany

In 2016, some 250 shootings (random, fatal and non-fatal) were registered by police in Stockholm, Gothenburg and Malmö. In 2014, that number came to 200, indicating that Sweden is experiencing a drasticrise in such incidents.

“We don't really know why yet, but what we can see is that the increase comes as we also see a rise in gang-related crimes and a growing number of criminal networks,” Manne Gerell, a criminologist at Malmö University, told The Local, after Swedish public radio first wrote about new research he is involved in.
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Canada.....

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/shootings-statistics-increase-homicide-1.3564549




Fatal shootings in Toronto have increased 200 per cent in the first four months of this year as compared to the same time last year, police statistics reveal.

• Man, 24, arrested, charged in double homicide at Victoria Park and Ellesmere
  

In the first four months of 2016, the figures show there were 18 homicides involving guns, compared to six fatal shootings by this time in 2015.



----Police say they believe the rise in shooting deaths is partly due to criminals carrying their guns instead of hiding them in secure places.

"It's a considerable increase in homicides," Staff Inspector Greg McLane of Toronto Police's homicide squad said Tuesday.

"It's hard to say whether there are more guns out there, but I'm of the belief that more people are carrying their guns. I ask myself this question: why do street gang and criminal lifestyle people feel they can walk around in communities in the city without fear of being stopped by police?"

McLane said he thinks people previously stored their guns for easy access, including in such unlikely places as trees and diaper bags, but now they are more likely to keep them on their persons.

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Gun crime up 56% in Toronto....in 2015...

Toronto seeing 56% increase in shootings in 2015

TORONTO - The number of shootings in Toronto is way up compared to the past two years, according to new police stats.
The Toronto Police Service’s year-to-date numbers show 103 people have been killed or injured in shootings this year — a 56% increase compared to this point last year and a 25.6% increase compared to 2013.
And since those figures were released last week, two more people have been shot to death and five more sent to hospital.
Toronto hasn’t seen this type of spike in gun violence since 2012, which has many people asking what’s being done to address the problem.
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Public Health and Gun Control --- A Review (Part II: Gun Violence and Constitutional Issues) | Hacienda Publishing

In the chapter "Bad Medicine --- Doctors and Guns," Kates and associates describe a particularly egregious example of editorial bias and censorship by The New England Journal of Medicine.(6) In 1989, two studies were independently submitted for publication to NEJM. Both authors were affiliated with the University of Washington School of Public Health. One study by Dr. John H. Sloan was a selective two-city comparison of homicide rates in Vancouver, British Columbia, and Seattle, Washington.(21) The other paper was a comprehensive comparison study between the U.S. and Canada by Dr. Brandon Centerwall. Predictably, the editors of the NEJMchose to publish Sloan et al's article with inferior but orthodox data claiming erroneously that severe gun control policies had reduced Canadian homicides and rejected Centerwall's superior study showing that such policies had not affected the rate of homicides in Canada. In fact, the homicide rates were lower in Vancouver before the restrictive gun control laws had been passed in Canada and in fact, rose after the laws were passed. The Vancouver homicide rate increased 25 percent after the institution of the 1977 Canadian law. Sloan and associates glossed over the disparet ethnic compositions of Seattle and Vancouver. When the rates of homicides for whites are compared in both of the cities it turns out that the rate of homicide in Seattle is actually lower than in Vancouver while blacks and hispanics have higher rates of homicides in Seattle was not mentioned by these investigators.

Dr. Centerwall's paper on the comparitive rates of homicides in the U.S. and Canada was finally published in the American Journal of Epidemiology, but his valuable research was not really made widely available to the public.(22) In contradistinction to his valuable gun research data, Centerwall's other research pointing to the effects of TV violence affecting homicide rates have been made widely available, but his data exculpating gun availability and homicide rates has not.(23-25)

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Britain....


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1223193/Culture-violence-Gun-crime-goes-89-decade.html



The latest Government figures show that the total number of firearm offences in England and Wales has increased from 5,209 in 1998/99 to 9,865 last year - a rise of 89 per cent.

The number of people injured or killed by guns, excluding air weapons, has increased from 864 in 1998/99 to a provisional figure of 1,760 in 2008/09, an increase of 104 per cent .


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Crime rise is biggest in a decade, ONS figures show

Ministers will also be concerned that the country is becoming increasingly violent in nature, with gun crime rising 23% to 6,375 offences, largely driven by an increase in the use of handguns.

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Gun crime in London increases by 42% - BBC News

Gun crime offences in London surged by 42% in the last year, according to official statistics.

Top trauma surgeon reveals shocking extent of London’s gun crime

A leading trauma surgeon has told how the number of patients treated for gunshot injuries at a major London hospital has doubled in the last five years.

----

He said the hospital’s major trauma centre had seen a bigger rise in gunshot injuries compared to knife wounds and that the average age of victims was getting younger.

-----

Last year, gun crime offences in London increased for a third year running and by 42 per cent, from 1,793 offences in 2015/16 to 2,544 offences in 2016/17. Police have seized 635 guns off the streets so far this year.

Dr Griffiths, who also teaches medical students, said: “Our numbers of victims of gun injury have doubled [since 2012]. Gunshot injuries represent about 2.5 per cent of our penetrating trauma.

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Dr Griffiths said the average age of gun crime victims needing treatment at the hospital had decreased from 25 to the mid to late teens since 2012.

He added that medics at the Barts Health hospital’s major trauma centre in Whitechapel had seen a bigger rise in patients with gun injuries rather than knife wounds and that most were caused by pistols or shotguns.

Met Police commander Jim Stokley, who was also invited to speak at the meeting, said that handguns and shotguns were the weapons of choice and that 46 per cent of London’s gun crime discharges were gang-related.

He said: “We believe that a lot of it is associated with the drugs trade, and by that I mean people dealing drugs at street level and disagreements between different gangs.”

Violent crime on the rise in every corner of the country, figures suggest

But analysis of the figures force by force, showed the full extent of the problem, with only one constabulary, Nottinghamshire, recording a reduction in violent offences.

The vast majority of police forces actually witnessed double digit rises in violent crime, with Northumbria posting a 95 per cent increase year on year.

Of the other forces, Durham Police recorded a 73 per cent rise; West Yorkshire was up 48 per cent; Avon and Somerset 45 per cent; Dorset 39 per cent and Warwickshire 37 per cent.

Elsewhere Humberside, South Yorkshire, Staffordshire, Essex, Hertfordshire, Kent, Wiltshire and Dyfed Powys all saw violence rise by more than a quarter year on year.

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Australia...

Australia’s Gun 'Buyback' Created a Violent Firearms Black Market. Why Should the U.S. Do the Same?

Just days ago, Australia's Peter Dutton, Minister for Immigration and Border Protection, and Michael Keenan, Minister for Justice, held a joint press conference to announce "We don't tolerate gun smuggling in Australia and we know Outlaw Motorcycle Gangs are engaged in it. We have been keen to send the strongest possible message from Canberra that we're not going to tolerate people smuggling in guns or smuggling in gun parts. You'd appreciate that even one smuggled gun can do an enormous amount of damage."

When politicians announce that they don't tolerate something, it's a fair bet that the something is completely out of hand.

"Police admit they cannot eradicate a black market that is peddling illegal guns to criminals," the Adelaide Advertiser concededa few years ago. "Motorcycle gang members and convicted criminals barred from buying guns in South Australia have no difficulty obtaining illegal firearms - including fully automatic weapons."

More recently, the country's The New Daily gained access to "previously unpublished data for firearms offences" and reporteda surge in crime "including a massive 83 per cent increase in firearms offences in NSW between 2005/06 and 2014/15, and an even bigger jump in Victoria over the same period."

"Australians may be more at risk from gun crime than ever before with the country's underground market for firearms ballooning in the past decade," the report added. "[T]he national ban on semi-automatic weapons following the Port Arthur massacre had spawned criminal demand for handguns."

Much as the Mafia and other organized criminal outfits rose to power, wealth, and prominence by supplying illegal liquor during Prohibition in the United States, outlaw motorcycle gangs in Australia appear to be building international connections and making money by supplying guns to willing buyers.

Gun city: Young, dumb and armed

The notion that a military-grade weapon could be in the hands of local criminals is shocking, but police have already seized at least five machine guns and assault rifles in the past 18 months. The AK-47 was not among them.

Only a fortnight ago, law enforcement authorities announced they were hunting another seven assault rifles recently smuggled into the country. Weapons from the shipment have been used in armed robberies and drive-by shootings.

These are just a handful of the thousands of illicit guns fuelling a wave of violent crime in the world’s most liveable city.

----

Despite Australia’s strict gun control regime, criminals are now better armed than at any time since then-Prime Minister John Howard introduced a nationwide firearm buyback scheme in response to the 1996 Port Arthur massacre.

Shootings have become almost a weekly occurrence, with more than 125 people, mostly young men, wounded in the past five year

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While the body count was higher during Melbourne’s ‘Underbelly War’ (1999-2005), more people have been seriously maimed in the recent spate of shootings and reprisals.

Crimes associated with firearm possession have also more than doubled, driven by the easy availability of handguns, semi-automatic rifles, shotguns and, increasingly, machine guns, that are smuggled into the country or stolen from licensed owners.

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These weapons have been used in dozens of recent drive-by shootings of homes and businesses, as well as targeted and random attacks in parks, shopping centres and roads.

“They’re young, dumb and armed,” said one former underworld associate, who survived a shooting attempt in the western suburbs several years ago.

“It used to be that if you were involved in something bad you might have to worry about [being shot]. Now people get shot over nothing - unprovoked.”

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Gun crime soars
In this series, Fairfax Media looks at Melbourne’s gun problem and the new breed of criminals behind the escalating violence.

The investigation has found:

• There have been at least 99 shootings in the past 20 months - more than one incident a week since January 2015
• Known criminals were caught with firearms 755 times last year, compared to 143 times in 2011
• The epicentre of the problem is a triangle between Coolaroo, Campbellfield and Glenroy in the north-west, with Cranbourne, Narre Warren and Dandenong in the south-east close behind
• Criminals are using gunshot wounds to the arms and legs as warnings to pay debts
• Assault rifles and handguns are being smuggled into Australia via shipments of electronics and metal parts

In response to the violence, it can be revealed the state government is planning to introduce new criminal offences for drive-by shootings, manufacturing of firearms with new technologies such as 3D printers, and more police powers to keep weapons out of the hands of known criminals.
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The second part of the series....
Gun city: Gunslingers of the North West


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'Thousands' of illegal guns tipped to be handed over in firearms amnesty

Asked roughly how many he expected to be handed in, Mr Keenan said: "Look I certainly think the number will be in the thousands."

The Australian Crime Commission estimated in 2012 there were at least 250,000 illegal guns in Australia. But a Senate report noted last year it was impossible to estimate how many illicit weapons are out there.

But....military weapons?

And despite Australia's strict border controls, the smuggling of high-powered military-style firearms is also a growing problem.

 

[2aguy]

View attachment 159254

Homicide Deaths per 100,000 people...all those white areas...you know, where all the guns are...hardly any...the darkest red areas East and West? That's St Louis and Kansas City...The part of the state with the lowest concentration of legally owned firearms.

Yes the parts with the population. Obviously where there are lots of people there is more crime. And a country with lots of legal firearms is guaranteed to have lots of illegal.

Don't even try it. Per 100,000 is per 100,000.

It is safer where the highest concentration of guns are. Blows a huge hole in your "more guns, more killing" theory.

More guns, less killing.

Guns aren't the problem.

Exactly the opposite of what statics tell us.

More guns more mass shootings.

And yet our gun crime rate, our gun murder rate and our violent crime rate is going down....while the gun crime rates in Europe and Australia are going up....

We went from 200 million guns in private hands in the 1990s and 4.7 million people carrying guns for self defense in 1997...to close to 400-600 million guns in private hands and over 16.3 million people carrying guns for self defense in 2017...guess what happened...
-- gun murder down 49%

--gun crime down 75%

--violent crime down 72%

Gun Homicide Rate Down 49% Since 1993 Peak; Public Unaware

Compared with 1993, the peak of U.S. gun homicides, the firearm homicide rate was 49% lower in 2010, and there were fewer deaths, even though the nation’s population grew. The victimization rate for other violent crimes with a firearm—assaults, robberies and sex crimes—was 75% lower in 2011 than in 1993. Violent non-fatal crime victimization overall (with or without a firearm) also is down markedly (72%) over two decades.

 

[otto105]

View attachment 159254

Homicide Deaths per 100,000 people...all those white areas...you know, where all the guns are...hardly any...the darkest red areas East and West? That's St Louis and Kansas City...The part of the state with the lowest concentration of legally owned firearms.

Yes the parts with the population. Obviously where there are lots of people there is more crime. And a country with lots of legal firearms is guaranteed to have lots of illegal.

Don't even try it. Per 100,000 is per 100,000.

It is safer where the highest concentration of guns are. Blows a huge hole in your "more guns, more killing" theory.

More guns, less killing.

Guns aren't the problem.

Exactly the opposite of what statics tell us.

More guns more mass shootings.

No....more gun free zones...more killing zones for mass shooters...

Without using names my church makes it known some members may be carrying. Bad guys only hit soft targets.

So in your world we all have to armed and ready to blast 24/7?


Have you talked to any Vietnam veterans?

 

[Weatherman2020]

Yes the parts with the population. Obviously where there are lots of people there is more crime. And a country with lots of legal firearms is guaranteed to have lots of illegal.

Don't even try it. Per 100,000 is per 100,000.

It is safer where the highest concentration of guns are. Blows a huge hole in your "more guns, more killing" theory.

More guns, less killing.

Guns aren't the problem.

Exactly the opposite of what statics tell us.

More guns more mass shootings.

No....more gun free zones...more killing zones for mass shooters...

Without using names my church makes it known some members may be carrying. Bad guys only hit soft targets.

So in your world we all have to armed and ready to blast 24/7?


Have you talked to any Vietnam veterans?

I live in the real world. Filled with criminals who the left keep letting out of prison 40 times.

 

[otto105]

View attachment 159254

Homicide Deaths per 100,000 people...all those white areas...you know, where all the guns are...hardly any...the darkest red areas East and West? That's St Louis and Kansas City...The part of the state with the lowest concentration of legally owned firearms.

Yes the parts with the population. Obviously where there are lots of people there is more crime. And a country with lots of legal firearms is guaranteed to have lots of illegal.

Don't even try it. Per 100,000 is per 100,000.

It is safer where the highest concentration of guns are. Blows a huge hole in your "more guns, more killing" theory.

More guns, less killing.

Guns aren't the problem.

Exactly the opposite of what statics tell us.

More guns more mass shootings.

And yet our gun crime rate, our gun murder rate and our violent crime rate is going down....while the gun crime rates in Europe and Australia are going up....

We went from 200 million guns in private hands in the 1990s and 4.7 million people carrying guns for self defense in 1997...to close to 400-600 million guns in private hands and over 16.3 million people carrying guns for self defense in 2017...guess what happened...
-- gun murder down 49%

--gun crime down 75%

--violent crime down 72%

Gun Homicide Rate Down 49% Since 1993 Peak; Public Unaware

Compared with 1993, the peak of U.S. gun homicides, the firearm homicide rate was 49% lower in 2010, and there were fewer deaths, even though the nation’s population grew. The victimization rate for other violent crimes with a firearm—assaults, robberies and sex crimes—was 75% lower in 2011 than in 1993. Violent non-fatal crime victimization overall (with or without a firearm) also is down markedly (72%) over two decades.

Really?


You're throwing that garbage up on a post.

Let's be clear, your assertion is that all crime in America is down because of guns? No other factor enters your little lower educated mind?


Try again, gun crimes in Australia increased from what 2 to 3 and are up a whooping 33%!!!!

 

[otto105]

Don't even try it. Per 100,000 is per 100,000.

It is safer where the highest concentration of guns are. Blows a huge hole in your "more guns, more killing" theory.

More guns, less killing.

Guns aren't the problem.

Exactly the opposite of what statics tell us.

More guns more mass shootings.

No....more gun free zones...more killing zones for mass shooters...

Without using names my church makes it known some members may be carrying. Bad guys only hit soft targets.

So in your world we all have to armed and ready to blast 24/7?


Have you talked to any Vietnam veterans?

I live in the real world. Filled with criminals who the left keep letting out of prison 40 times.

You live where?

Paranoidville?

 

[Peach]

I read reports he started with arson, didn't work. Had a powerful semi automatic firearm. Had he been deft with Molotov cocktails, confligeration.

 

[mamooth]

Gosnell is a hero to the left. Largest mass murderer in US history and you lefties adore him.

I can tell when you're butthurt, because your lies get whinier.

MSM kept the lid on him, but the upcoming movie will expose him.

No, you're just pushing a crazy alternate history again. But then, it's what your masters have fed you, so you don't know any different.

Again, since you made Gosnell, and since you've devoted yourselves to making more Gosnells, you really should stand up and take credit for what you accomplished.

 

[2aguy]

View attachment 159254

Homicide Deaths per 100,000 people...all those white areas...you know, where all the guns are...hardly any...the darkest red areas East and West? That's St Louis and Kansas City...The part of the state with the lowest concentration of legally owned firearms.

Yes the parts with the population. Obviously where there are lots of people there is more crime. And a country with lots of legal firearms is guaranteed to have lots of illegal.

Don't even try it. Per 100,000 is per 100,000.

It is safer where the highest concentration of guns are. Blows a huge hole in your "more guns, more killing" theory.

More guns, less killing.

Guns aren't the problem.

Exactly the opposite of what statics tell us.

More guns more mass shootings.

And yet our gun crime rate, our gun murder rate and our violent crime rate is going down....while the gun crime rates in Europe and Australia are going up....

We went from 200 million guns in private hands in the 1990s and 4.7 million people carrying guns for self defense in 1997...to close to 400-600 million guns in private hands and over 16.3 million people carrying guns for self defense in 2017...guess what happened...
-- gun murder down 49%

--gun crime down 75%

--violent crime down 72%

Gun Homicide Rate Down 49% Since 1993 Peak; Public Unaware

Compared with 1993, the peak of U.S. gun homicides, the firearm homicide rate was 49% lower in 2010, and there were fewer deaths, even though the nation’s population grew. The victimization rate for other violent crimes with a firearm—assaults, robberies and sex crimes—was 75% lower in 2011 than in 1993. Violent non-fatal crime victimization overall (with or without a firearm) also is down markedly (72%) over two decades.

Really?


You're throwing that garbage up on a post.

Let's be clear, your assertion is that all crime in America is down because of guns? No other factor enters your little lower educated mind?


Try again, gun crimes in Australia increased from what 2 to 3 and are up a whooping 33%!!!!

No...moron.....if you read my other posts I point out that the police are the major factor...which is why people like you attacking the police has led to the Ferguson Effect....

The fact is that you believe that more guns = more gun crime....and my link shows you are completely wrong...not even close to the truth....the core premise of your emotional belief system about guns is wrong.......

We went from 200 million guns in private hands in the 1990s and 4.7 million people carrying guns for self defense in 1997...to close to 400-600 million guns in private hands and over 16.3 million people carrying guns for self defense in 2017...guess what happened...
-- gun murder down 49%

--gun crime down 75%

--violent crime down 72%

Gun Homicide Rate Down 49% Since 1993 Peak; Public Unaware

Compared with 1993, the peak of U.S. gun homicides, the firearm homicide rate was 49% lower in 2010, and there were fewer deaths, even though the nation’s population grew. The victimization rate for other violent crimes with a firearm—assaults, robberies and sex crimes—was 75% lower in 2011 than in 1993. Violent non-fatal crime victimization overall (with or without a firearm) also is down markedly (72%) over two decades.

 

[2aguy]

View attachment 159254

Homicide Deaths per 100,000 people...all those white areas...you know, where all the guns are...hardly any...the darkest red areas East and West? That's St Louis and Kansas City...The part of the state with the lowest concentration of legally owned firearms.

Yes the parts with the population. Obviously where there are lots of people there is more crime. And a country with lots of legal firearms is guaranteed to have lots of illegal.

Don't even try it. Per 100,000 is per 100,000.

It is safer where the highest concentration of guns are. Blows a huge hole in your "more guns, more killing" theory.

More guns, less killing.

Guns aren't the problem.

Exactly the opposite of what statics tell us.

More guns more mass shootings.

And yet our gun crime rate, our gun murder rate and our violent crime rate is going down....while the gun crime rates in Europe and Australia are going up....

We went from 200 million guns in private hands in the 1990s and 4.7 million people carrying guns for self defense in 1997...to close to 400-600 million guns in private hands and over 16.3 million people carrying guns for self defense in 2017...guess what happened...
-- gun murder down 49%

--gun crime down 75%

--violent crime down 72%

Gun Homicide Rate Down 49% Since 1993 Peak; Public Unaware

Compared with 1993, the peak of U.S. gun homicides, the firearm homicide rate was 49% lower in 2010, and there were fewer deaths, even though the nation’s population grew. The victimization rate for other violent crimes with a firearm—assaults, robberies and sex crimes—was 75% lower in 2011 than in 1993. Violent non-fatal crime victimization overall (with or without a firearm) also is down markedly (72%) over two decades.

Really?


You're throwing that garbage up on a post.

Let's be clear, your assertion is that all crime in America is down because of guns? No other factor enters your little lower educated mind?


Try again, gun crimes in Australia increased from what 2 to 3 and are up a whooping 33%!!!!

No.....try 83%....and it is going up....

Australia’s Gun 'Buyback' Created a Violent Firearms Black Market. Why Should the U.S. Do the Same?

Just days ago, Australia's Peter Dutton, Minister for Immigration and Border Protection, and Michael Keenan, Minister for Justice, held a joint press conference to announce "We don't tolerate gun smuggling in Australia and we know Outlaw Motorcycle Gangs are engaged in it. We have been keen to send the strongest possible message from Canberra that we're not going to tolerate people smuggling in guns or smuggling in gun parts. You'd appreciate that even one smuggled gun can do an enormous amount of damage."

When politicians announce that they don't tolerate something, it's a fair bet that the something is completely out of hand.

"Police admit they cannot eradicate a black market that is peddling illegal guns to criminals," the Adelaide Advertiser concededa few years ago. "Motorcycle gang members and convicted criminals barred from buying guns in South Australia have no difficulty obtaining illegal firearms - including fully automatic weapons."

More recently, the country's The New Daily gained access to "previously unpublished data for firearms offences" and reporteda surge in crime "including a massive 83 per cent increase in firearms offences in NSW between 2005/06 and 2014/15, and an even bigger jump in Victoria over the same period."

"Australians may be more at risk from gun crime than ever before with the country's underground market for firearms ballooning in the past decade," the report added. "[T]he national ban on semi-automatic weapons following the Port Arthur massacre had spawned criminal demand for handguns."

Much as the Mafia and other organized criminal outfits rose to power, wealth, and prominence by supplying illegal liquor during Prohibition in the United States, outlaw motorcycle gangs in Australia appear to be building international connections and making money by supplying guns to willing buyers.

 

[Likkmee]

Babiez lyfez madder

 

[Weatherman2020]

Gosnell is a hero to the left. Largest mass murderer in US history and you lefties adore him.

I can tell when you're butthurt, because your lies get whinier.

MSM kept the lid on him, but the upcoming movie will expose him.

No, you're just pushing a crazy alternate history again. But then, it's what your masters have fed you, so you don't know any different.

Again, since you made Gosnell, and since you've devoted yourselves to making more Gosnells, you really should stand up and take credit for what you accomplished.

Facts were never your strength.

ABC News: 43 Days of No Coverage of the Kermit Gosnell Trial | LifeNews.com

Why Dr. Kermit Gosnell's Trial Should Be a Front-Page Story

Is media bias to blame for lack of Gosnell coverage? Or something far more banal?

Yes, There Is A Gosnell Trial Coverup by the Big News Organizations

Kermit Gosnell Trial: 5 Reasons Why the Media is Not Covering It

 

[Care4all]

...but don't condemn him, you people are just as bad.

A recent poster compared a baby being aborted to a "deadbeat tenant" getting evicted from his apartment.

Such callous cruelty has become the hallmark of the modern liberal.

So you don't get to judge the Texas shooter, he is you.

But you won't do anything to stop kids from being shot right?

It would take confiscation of every gun in America to stop shootings like this.

Is that what you propose?

Just guns that can shoot more than 400 rounds in 5 minutes or so

 

[2aguy]

...but don't condemn him, you people are just as bad.

A recent poster compared a baby being aborted to a "deadbeat tenant" getting evicted from his apartment.

Such callous cruelty has become the hallmark of the modern liberal.

So you don't get to judge the Texas shooter, he is you.

But you won't do anything to stop kids from being shot right?

It would take confiscation of every gun in America to stop shootings like this.

Is that what you propose?

Just guns that can shoot more than 400 rounds in 5 minutes or so

You mean like pistols, and any weapon in the hands of a trained shooter?

 

[2aguy]

...but don't condemn him, you people are just as bad.

A recent poster compared a baby being aborted to a "deadbeat tenant" getting evicted from his apartment.

Such callous cruelty has become the hallmark of the modern liberal.

So you don't get to judge the Texas shooter, he is you.

But you won't do anything to stop kids from being shot right?

It would take confiscation of every gun in America to stop shootings like this.

Is that what you propose?

Just guns that can shoot more than 400 rounds in 5 minutes or so

There are 16,000,000 of these rifles in private hands.....and yet only 2 have been used in the last 2 months to commit murder that could just as easily have been done with shotguns, and revlovers in a gun free zone.....you have no case for banning these guns since knives kill more people than these rifles do even in mass public shootings...

In 2016....6 mass shootings, not all of them with rifles.....71 murdered

2015.....knives murdered 1,604 people.....so, is it the number of people murdered? because if you are trying to make that point, you should really focus on knives, clubs and bare hands...because every year they murder more people than these rifles do in mass shootings....

 

[mamooth]

Facts were never your strength.

So you're pretending the mainstream media is liberal (it's rather conservative) and pretending the mainstream media didn't cover the case (they did, just not every day) to deflect from the fact that you made Gosnell and are working to make more Gosnells.

The funniest part that your own sources linked to liberal local media outlets reporting on it. But then, you don't actually read your sources. You saw conspiracy headlines, and you BELIEVED.