Texas’ complex relationship with firearms: Leading America in gun sales, but with a declining gun ownership rate

[AMart]

LOL Texas Tribune 1 look at the corporate donors page yuck.

 

[BULLDOG]

Biden calls 9mm ‘high-caliber weapons,’ suggests banning them

President Biden spoke to reporters about his thoughts on 9mm handguns, calling them "high-caliber" and claiming that the Constitution is not "absolute."

www.foxnews.com

From your link
"President Biden on Monday took aim at 9mm handguns, appearing to suggest that the "high-caliber weapons" ought to be banned."

Appearing to suggest something might be is not the same as trying to do that thing. The claim that they are the same as an exaggerated lie. It might help you stir up the gun nuts, but we both know it's just more conspiracy theory bullshit. If you have any legitimate , credible reason to believe your crap, I would be interested, but your current whining is just childish exaggeration.

 

[Missourian]

From your link
"President Biden on Monday took aim at 9mm handguns, appearing to suggest that the "high-caliber weapons" ought to be banned."

Appearing to suggest something might be is not the same as trying to do that thing. The claim that they are the same as an exaggerated lie. It might help you stir up the gun nuts, but we both know it's just more conspiracy theory bullshit. If you have any legitimate , credible reason to believe your crap, I would be interested, but your current whining is just childish exaggeration.

It's not an exaggerated lie...this is exactly how it starts.

When the President of the United States appears to suggest that 9mm pistols are "high-caliber weapons" that ought to be banned...I sit up and take notice.

So does everyone else.

 

[BULLDOG]

There have been proposed laws that define a semi-automatic as any gun where a single pull of the trigger fires a round and leaves the gun in the position such that another pull of the trigger fires another round.

That description includes revolvers as semi-automatic weapons. They want single-shot only with the slight exception of a bolt-action. Some descriptions have explicitly included lever-actions, too... because, you know... The Rifleman..

And how many of those definitions you mention actually became law?

 

[BULLDOG]

It's not an exaggerated lie...this is exactly how it starts.

When the President of the United States appears to suggest that 9mm pistols are "high-caliber weapons" that ought to be banned...I sit up and take notice.

So does everyone else.

Take notice all you want, but if you claim that is an effort to ban guns, it is an exaggerated lie.

 

[westwall]

Take notice all you want, but if you claim that is an effort to ban guns, it is an exaggerated lie.

Not according to nadler.

 

[Missourian]

Take notice all you want, but if you claim that is an effort to ban guns, it is an exaggerated lie.

Is that the rule? Cuz team leftist is making hay over banning gay marriage...

If just mentioning it isn't the same as an effort to remove a right...have you taken any if them to task?

Of course not "because they just overturned Roe".

And Pelosi introduce another AWB, and the President claimed that a 9mm would "blow a lung right out of your body".

So, yeah...it sounds like laying the groundwork...and IMO...if public opinion wasn't 80% against it...they'd do it tomorrow.

Just look to Canada ... bet those gun owner were lulled by either willfully ignorant or intentionally deceitful folk into beleiving ...oh, it will only be AR15s....oh, it will only be a handgun registration...oh, don't fret, they'll never come for your guns ...

The complete ban list of newly prohibited firearms in Canada as of May 1 2020

Ensure you are properly covered, Join The Silvercore Club Regulations Amending the Regulations Prescribing Certain Firearms and Other Weapons, Components and Parts of Weapons, Accessories, Cartridg…

silvercore.ca

 

[Vrenn]

What is a semiauto machine gun? So any semi-automatic is a machine gun and should be banned? Or is it only the ugly black ones? Why do you hate ugly black things? You really have some deep seated racial fears, don't you?

And you're also wrong about the use of semi-automatic weapons. Ever go shooting prairie dogs? You have to stay a few hundred yards off and shoot a lot of them. The holes they create injure domestic and while animals.

There have been plenty of posts on this site of ARs being used successfully in defense against a gang of attackers or home invaders and plenty of posts showing that even cops can shoot many rounds and not hit a thing when they're under fire as well so high-capacity mags on an AR are critical for many home defense scenarios.

And, no, target shooters are not willing to register their guns. What would be the purpose for registering them? Are you suggesting NFA style taxes and regulations to own a semi-automatic weapon?

Please explain where you see a 10-round or 15-round legal limitation? New York's is 7 rounds. Others have suggested a 6-round limit.

Just as soon as you support voter ID, background checks, voting tax, then get back to me. It won't change the Constitution but your argument is filled with ignorance, stupidity, and hypocrisy.


Actually, HR-1808 was drawn up by a bunch of people who know nothing at all about firearms. For instance:

A collapsible stock does not make the gun concealable. With the collapsible stock fully collapsed (you know, like a petite woman might want to shoot safely - but Dems hate women) the gun must still meet minimum length requirements so the law does nothing.

And you need that collapsible stock to hunt prairie chickens. And what other mods is done?

Banning shotguns with a revolving cylinder? Really? Are they that afraid of the .410 shotgun? There are no revolver shotguns other than a .410. What pussies the left are.

It isn't banning a thing. You want that weapon, file the proper paperwork and don't be a criminal or Excon.

They are calling the Hi-Point carbine an assault rifle. Really! They're absolutely nuts. It's a great little camp gun or farm gun for protection against varmints, coyotes, etc., but it's not even close to being an AR.

It has accessories that would make many ARs jealous. Including a threaded barrel designed to use a silencer. And subsonic ammo like the 9mm and 45ACP which can benefit from that silencer. If they offered it without the threaded barrel then it wouldn't make the list. And again, it's not being banned, it's being regulated.

They just don't like ugly guns.

There's not a single attribute of what they're calling an assault rifle that makes the gun any more dangerous or deadly than any other gun.

Since an assault weapons ban would not do a thing to stop crime, it is not possible that this would be the end.

There are many items that can qualify as an Assault Rifle. The Caliber doesn't mean a thing. It's the fact it can be used as a Military Rifle first and everything else after that.

All this type of law does is make you, the gunnutter, have to register certain weapons and have proper permits. But if you really want to be banned, fine. You are banned. See how easy that was?

 

[miketx]

It's the fact it can be used as a Military Rifle first and everything else after that.

Any gun can be used as a military gun, commie. Even a snub nosed revolver. Do you have a point other than being a commie gun banner?

 

[Missourian]

It's the fact it can be used as a Military Rifle first and everything else after that

You show me a substantive difference between an M1903 and a Remington 700 or a Winchester Model 70 and this will be a valid argument.

Until then (which will be never) it is poppycock.

M1903 Springfield - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

Remington Model 700 - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

Winchester Model 70 - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

 

[BULLDOG]

Not according to nadler.

Don't be silly. He did't say all guns in common use did he? The right wing conspiracy theory is that someone will be at your door soon to confiscate all your guns. Just more hysterical exaggeration, dumb ass.

 

[BULLDOG]

Is that the rule? Cuz team leftist is making hay over banning gay marriage...

If just mentioning it isn't the same as an effort to remove a right...have you taken any if them to task?

Of course not "because they just overturned Roe".

And Pelosi introduce another AWB, and the President claimed that a 9mm would "blow a lung right out of your body".

So, yeah...it sounds like laying the groundwork...and IMO...if public opinion wasn't 80% against it...they'd do it tomorrow.

Just look to Canada ... bet those gun owner were lulled by either willfully ignorant or intentionally deceitful folk into beleiving ...oh, it will only be AR15s....oh, it will only be a handgun registration...oh, don't fret, they'll never come for your guns ...

The complete ban list of newly prohibited firearms in Canada as of May 1 2020

Ensure you are properly covered, Join The Silvercore Club Regulations Amending the Regulations Prescribing Certain Firearms and Other Weapons, Components and Parts of Weapons, Accessories, Cartridg…

silvercore.ca

Qit whining. This isn't Canada dumb ass.

 

[Missourian]

Qit whining. This isn't Canada dumb ass.

^^^Triggered by logical responses with zero name calling. Just can't handle a reasonable argument.

 

[BULLDOG]

^^^Triggered by logical responses with zero name calling. Just can't handle a reasonable argument.

One day you might make a reasonable argument, and then we will know.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

“Background checks for gun purchases in Texas rose during the weeks after the mass shooting in Uvalde that left 19 children and two teachers dead, according to the latest count from the federal government. It wasn’t the largest jump in background checks so far this year, but it’s part of a pattern that has followed most mass shootings for over a decade.

Background checks for guns rose an average of almost 10% following the El Paso, Santa Fe and Sutherland Springs mass shootings. But those events and their aftermath only provided a snapshot of the full, complicated picture of Texans’ relationship with guns and gun violence.

Texas’ complex relationship with firearms: Leading America in gun sales, but with a declining gun ownership rate

We examine decades of data on gun ownership and gun violence to show trends across the state. Some of them might surprise you.

www.texastribune.org

What isn’t complicated is the fact that guns aren’t going to be ‘banned’ the consequence of mass shootings.

Rushing out to buy guns after a mass shooting only results in shortages of both guns and ammunition.

Dumbass that makes no sense what happened to all those who previously owned firearms?

 

[woodwork201]

From your link
"President Biden on Monday took aim at 9mm handguns, appearing to suggest that the "high-caliber weapons" ought to be banned."

Appearing to suggest something might be is not the same as trying to do that thing. The claim that they are the same as an exaggerated lie. It might help you stir up the gun nuts, but we both know it's just more conspiracy theory bullshit. If you have any legitimate , credible reason to believe your crap, I would be interested, but your current whining is just childish exaggeration.

The first step of a ban has to be to set up that it's evil. They can't just go to Congress and say, "ban 9mm guns".

 

[woodwork201]

And how many of those definitions you mention actually became law?

That's a very good point. Because, in a similar fashion last year, someone proposed a law adding 85 billion dollars to the IRS to increase investigators. The law would have supplemented the wealthy who buy electric vehicles at the expense of those of the poor and middle class who pay taxes. It was going to subsidize China in manufacturing wind power and tax coal. It was going to increase taxes by over 300 billion dollars. But, like you say about those definitions and bans, it didn't become law....

Oh, wait. Joe Manchin just agreed to be the 50th vote in the Senate so Harris can break the tie...

 

[woodwork201]

Is that the rule? Cuz team leftist is making hay over banning gay marriage...

If just mentioning it isn't the same as an effort to remove a right...have you taken any if them to task?

Of course not "because they just overturned Roe".

And Pelosi introduce another AWB, and the President claimed that a 9mm would "blow a lung right out of your body".

So, yeah...it sounds like laying the groundwork...and IMO...if public opinion wasn't 80% against it...they'd do it tomorrow.

Just look to Canada ... bet those gun owner were lulled by either willfully ignorant or intentionally deceitful folk into beleiving ...oh, it will only be AR15s....oh, it will only be a handgun registration...oh, don't fret, they'll never come for your guns ...

The complete ban list of newly prohibited firearms in Canada as of May 1 2020

Ensure you are properly covered, Join The Silvercore Club Regulations Amending the Regulations Prescribing Certain Firearms and Other Weapons, Components and Parts of Weapons, Accessories, Cartridg…

silvercore.ca

Yeah, the Canadians started with all those "reasonable gun control" laws that so many so-called, self-proclaimed, gun privilege supporters on this site support... You know, mandatory background checks and so forth. And, as always, background checks = registration = confiscation.

Yep. I bet Canadian gun owners are rethinking that whole idea of "reasonable gun control".

 

[woodwork201]

And you need that collapsible stock to hunt prairie chickens. And what other mods is done?

A woman needs a shorter stock than does a man. A collapsible stock is the perfect solution. And what about other mods? You're suggesting banning adjustable stocks because that might lead to someone putting on a forward vertical grip?

It isn't banning a thing. You want that weapon, file the proper paperwork and don't be a criminal or Excon.

Nowhere in the proposed ban is there any option for NFA paperwork to purchase or transfer anything that the law defines as an assault weapon. You're lying.

It has accessories that would make many ARs jealous. Including a threaded barrel designed to use a silencer. And subsonic ammo like the 9mm and 45ACP which can benefit from that silencer. If they offered it without the threaded barrel then it wouldn't make the list. And again, it's not being banned, it's being regulated.

Interesting. So everyone should only shoot supersonic ammunition? I thought you didn't like the 5.56mm because of it's high velocity. Now you're going to say that subsonic ammunition is dangerous because a silencer reduces the sound more than on a 5.56?

Next you'll be suggesting, as White6 did, that all .22 caliber and other lightweight ammunition should be regulated because they're lightweight so we should only carry ammunition heavier than 5.56 - you know, such as .308 or .50 BMG.

There are many items that can qualify as an Assault Rifle. The Caliber doesn't mean a thing. It's the fact it can be used as a Military Rifle first and everything else after that.

What rifle can't be used as a military rifle? What handgun can't be used as a military handgun? You haven't read Heller or Miller, have you? Or the 2nd Amendment, either. The Constitution likes guns that can be used as a military rifle and, in the opinion of some very smart people, even prefers those.

All this type of law does is make you, the gunnutter, have to register certain weapons and have proper permits. But if you really want to be banned, fine. You are banned. See how easy that was?

No, that's not what HB 1808 does. And don't talk about permits for owning a gun until you have permits to talk, permits to vote, permits to get a trial or an attorney. But I'll fight you on all of those permits, as well.

 

[BULLDOG]

The first step of a ban has to be to set up that it's evil. They can't just go to Congress and say, "ban 9mm guns".

If it can be proven to be evil, then it should be banned.