Texas governor doesn't care how many die

Despite the constant increase in Covid 19 virus, cases, Greg Abbot thinks it is more important to bow to Trump and open the state for business as usual than it is to listen to the experts and wait until infection rates start to fall.

Texas has had 888 deaths out of a population of 29 million. They rank 40 out of 50 states in deaths per million.

How many more will unnecessarily die just so Abbot can get his brownie points from Trump?

How many more will unnecessarily die due to poverty, domestic violence, drug and alcohol abuse, mental health issues, and non-related COVID-19 medical conditions so you can keep people on lock down, destroy their local economy, and score partisan political points?

If you want to discuss all those things, you should start a thread.

Why don't you answer the question, clown, since you're so quick to judge everybody else's motives?

As soon as you ask one on this subject, I will.

What's wrong? You can dish your bullshit out, but you can't take it when it's thrown back at you?

Come on, chucklehead, answer the question. How many more should die because of your partisan politics?

Just because right wingers only see things in terms of politics doesn't make that the case, dumb ass. The experts in the field have more credibility than what you might have heard on Fox and Friends.
You are crying about seeing things in terms of politics after the partisan OP you started this thread with?

You are a hypocritical moron.

I'm disgusted that a purely humanitarian situation is being dealt with by Trump and supporters in a purely partisan political way.
Interesting...
The States that Trump has concentrated the bulk of Federal relief on are all liberal strong holds. So if he's such a "partisan" then why isn't he telling the people in States he has no chance of ever winning in an election to go it on their own?
Oh, wait...he's not been partisan at all...he's helped those who need help DESPITE them hating his guts!

I guess fox didn't tell you about him threatening to withhold aid unless he received concessions.
What aid did he withhold? Name the State that didn't get Federal aid, Bulldog!

He told Pence to not call the governors back if they weren't properly appreciative.
I ask again...WHAT STATES WERE NOT GRANTED FEDERAL AID BECAUSE OF CONDITIONS DONALD TRUMP PUT ON THAT AID???
The truth is...he gave the bulk of the Federal aid that was provided to liberal strongholds like California, New Jersey, New York, Massachusetts and Michigan...which makes your claim TOTAL BULLSHIT!


still waiting to find out which Gov refused to suck his fat ass --
I'm still waiting for Bulldog to tell me what State was refused aid because of Trump "conditions", Siete! Perhaps you'd like to help her?

comprehension issues ?

read my post
 
Democrats don't care how many middle class citizens lose their livelyhood and have to go on welfare or freaking starve. It's all about politics.

No, it's not about politics. Trump and his supporters want to make it about that, but the experts disagree.
For conservatives it is about politics, of course.

Rightists know that with the economy in recession and millions of Americans out of work Trump will likely lose reelection, Republicans will likely lose the Senate, and the GOP will take a beating in down-ballot elections.

Conservatives will do anything to avoid this, including jeopardizing the health and lives of Americans, Abbot’s reckless, irresponsible ‘reopening’ being one of far too many examples.
For conservatives it is about politics, of course.

BULLDOG made it about politics in the OP, Window Licker.

Nope. Just responding to political right wingers.
 
It's a 14-day incubation period, so any NEW cases are NOT a direct result of the expiration of the stay-at-home orders.

This is BULLSHIT propaganda to make people fearful.

We're not rolling it back, commie bitches. You lost. It's OVER!!!

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Democrats don't care how many middle class citizens lose their livelyhood and have to go on welfare or freaking starve. It's all about politics.

No, it's not about politics. Trump and his supporters want to make it about that, but the experts disagree.
For conservatives it is about politics, of course.

Rightists know that with the economy in recession and millions of Americans out of work Trump will likely lose reelection, Republicans will likely lose the Senate, and the GOP will take a beating in down-ballot elections.

Conservatives will do anything to avoid this, including jeopardizing the health and lives of Americans, Abbot’s reckless, irresponsible ‘reopening’ being one of far too many examples.
For conservatives it is about politics, of course.

BULLDOG made it about politics in the OP, Window Licker.

Nope. Just responding to political right wingers.
Not responding to my question about aid to the States though...are you, Bulldog! :)
 
Despite the constant increase in Covid 19 virus, cases, Greg Abbot thinks it is more important to bow to Trump and open the state for business as usual than it is to listen to the experts and wait until infection rates start to fall. How many more will unnecessarily die just so Abbot can get his brownie points from Trump?
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A better question is how many families are you willing to bankrupt so that the economy doesn't look good going into the Fall election? Do any of you liberals care about those people? They don't have any money. They have bills to pay. They need to feed their families. But you want to keep the nation closed down for as long as you can to make Trump look bad!

Here's the thing, Bulldog...

Those States that are opening back up now? They're going to be the ones who's economy bounces back the quickest. States like Michigan? With a Governor that wants to string this out for as long as she can? People that live there are FUCKED!!! See how that translates come November. Why would you vote for people that put politics above people?
Liberals love the poor...It's the very definition of being a Liberal.
Then the Liberals try to get professionals to pay more taxes to support the poor.

It's the very definition of a mature society and Christianity.
Wrong. You lefties are confusing the government with the church.
 
Despite the constant increase in Covid 19 virus, cases, Greg Abbot thinks it is more important to bow to Trump and open the state for business as usual than it is to listen to the experts and wait until infection rates start to fall. How many more will unnecessarily die just so Abbot can get his brownie points from Trump?
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A better question is how many families are you willing to bankrupt so that the economy doesn't look good going into the Fall election? Do any of you liberals care about those people? They don't have any money. They have bills to pay. They need to feed their families. But you want to keep the nation closed down for as long as you can to make Trump look bad!

Here's the thing, Bulldog...

Those States that are opening back up now? They're going to be the ones who's economy bounces back the quickest. States like Michigan? With a Governor that wants to string this out for as long as she can? People that live there are FUCKED!!! See how that translates come November. Why would you vote for people that put politics above people?

That is absurd, but still a perfect example of Trump logic.

What's absurd about it? Let me guess...you think blue collar people who are forced into bankruptcy because liberal politicians prevent them from working are going to be "OK" with that? That election is in November. Those people are broke NOW! How do you think they're going to feel four months from now when they can't find work because so many companies went belly up? You think they're going to vote for Democrats...the Party that kept them out of work? You think they're going to look at people in States like Texas that have jobs, homes and food on the table and NOT blame the Democrats from THEIR State that kept that from happening?

Again, you dumb fools can't think of anything unless it is in terms of politics. This has a political aspect only because right wingers made it political. Politics should not even be part of the discussion.
I'm still waiting to hear what State was refused Federal aid because Trump was demanding "conditions"? You're ducking that...aren't you, Bulldog?

You're trying to pretend Trump has been competent throughout the emergency. He hasn't
 
Despite the constant increase in Covid 19 virus, cases, Greg Abbot thinks it is more important to bow to Trump and open the state for business as usual than it is to listen to the experts and wait until infection rates start to fall. How many more will unnecessarily die just so Abbot can get his brownie points from Trump?
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A better question is how many families are you willing to bankrupt so that the economy doesn't look good going into the Fall election? Do any of you liberals care about those people? They don't have any money. They have bills to pay. They need to feed their families. But you want to keep the nation closed down for as long as you can to make Trump look bad!

Here's the thing, Bulldog...

Those States that are opening back up now? They're going to be the ones who's economy bounces back the quickest. States like Michigan? With a Governor that wants to string this out for as long as she can? People that live there are FUCKED!!! See how that translates come November. Why would you vote for people that put politics above people?

just because they open doesnt mean people flood them with business -

open up, pay overhead, bills keep adding up, not enough people show to make a profit -

CLOSED FOR GOOD !

then you get to witness a real depression

We have to reopen businesses. That's not even debatable. People need to work. People need to feed their families. The people out there that don't have savings are screwed in States like Michigan! They have a Governor that will keep them out of work for as long as she can...a Governor that could care less if they're homeless in six months because their job has disappeared.

You're worried about a real Depression? People like Whitmer are doing everything they can to make that happen. Trump is doing everything he can to not let that happen.

Sometimes, there is more than one problem at a time to deal with. Most adults already know this.
Well you sure do have your fair share of problems don't you. A substandard IQ, your head stuck up your ass, a persecution complex, and several more mental shortcomings and maladies. Maybe you should have someone lop off your head. It's pretty much useless the way it is.

And there is that reasoned discussion from the right that we hear so much about.
 
When you walk out your front door you might get stuck by lightning. When you drive your car you might get flattened by a big truck. We must take risks in order to live our lives, and that includes the risk of catching coronavirus.

If you were only risking your life, you might have a point.
/----/ Where was your fake outrage when there was no Swine Flu Lockdown?
cower in place.jpg
 
cry about the economy then reopen businesses -

two things better happen thats for damn sure -

1. reopening isnt premature and sets off round 2 of the virus

2. people flock to businesses in droves and a magical recovery takes place overnight .
 
Despite the constant increase in Covid 19 virus, cases, Greg Abbot thinks it is more important to bow to Trump and open the state for business as usual than it is to listen to the experts and wait until infection rates start to fall. How many more will unnecessarily die just so Abbot can get his brownie points from Trump?
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A better question is how many families are you willing to bankrupt so that the economy doesn't look good going into the Fall election? Do any of you liberals care about those people? They don't have any money. They have bills to pay. They need to feed their families. But you want to keep the nation closed down for as long as you can to make Trump look bad!

Here's the thing, Bulldog...

Those States that are opening back up now? They're going to be the ones who's economy bounces back the quickest. States like Michigan? With a Governor that wants to string this out for as long as she can? People that live there are FUCKED!!! See how that translates come November. Why would you vote for people that put politics above people?

That is absurd, but still a perfect example of Trump logic.

What's absurd about it? Let me guess...you think blue collar people who are forced into bankruptcy because liberal politicians prevent them from working are going to be "OK" with that? That election is in November. Those people are broke NOW! How do you think they're going to feel four months from now when they can't find work because so many companies went belly up? You think they're going to vote for Democrats...the Party that kept them out of work? You think they're going to look at people in States like Texas that have jobs, homes and food on the table and NOT blame the Democrats from THEIR State that kept that from happening?

Again, you dumb fools can't think of anything unless it is in terms of politics. This has a political aspect only because right wingers made it political. Politics should not even be part of the discussion.
I'm still waiting to hear what State was refused Federal aid because Trump was demanding "conditions"? You're ducking that...aren't you, Bulldog?

You're trying to pretend Trump has been competent throughout the emergency. He hasn't

You're trying to pretend that Trump imposed "conditions" on States in return for Federal aid, Bulldog and I think you know that's total bullshit on your part. Just admit it and move on!
 
Despite the constant increase in Covid 19 virus, cases, Greg Abbot thinks it is more important to bow to Trump and open the state for business as usual than it is to listen to the experts and wait until infection rates start to fall.

Texas has had 888 deaths out of a population of 29 million. They rank 40 out of 50 states in deaths per million.

How many more will unnecessarily die just so Abbot can get his brownie points from Trump?

How many more will unnecessarily die due to poverty, domestic violence, drug and alcohol abuse, mental health issues, and non-related COVID-19 medical conditions so you can keep people on lock down, destroy their local economy, and score partisan political points?

If you want to discuss all those things, you should start a thread.

Why don't you answer the question, clown, since you're so quick to judge everybody else's motives?

As soon as you ask one on this subject, I will.

What's wrong? You can dish your bullshit out, but you can't take it when it's thrown back at you?

Come on, chucklehead, answer the question. How many more should die because of your partisan politics?

Just because right wingers only see things in terms of politics doesn't make that the case, dumb ass. The experts in the field have more credibility than what you might have heard on Fox and Friends.
You are crying about seeing things in terms of politics after the partisan OP you started this thread with?

You are a hypocritical moron.

I'm disgusted that a purely humanitarian situation is being dealt with by Trump and supporters in a purely partisan political way.
Interesting...
The States that Trump has concentrated the bulk of Federal relief on are all liberal strong holds. So if he's such a "partisan" then why isn't he telling the people in States he has no chance of ever winning in an election to go it on their own?
Oh, wait...he's not been partisan at all...he's helped those who need help DESPITE them hating his guts!

I guess fox didn't tell you about him threatening to withhold aid unless he received concessions.
What aid did he withhold? Name the State that didn't get Federal aid, Bulldog!

He told Pence to not call the governors back if they weren't properly appreciative.
I ask again...WHAT STATES WERE NOT GRANTED FEDERAL AID BECAUSE OF CONDITIONS DONALD TRUMP PUT ON THAT AID???
The truth is...he gave the bulk of the Federal aid that was provided to liberal strongholds like California, New Jersey, New York, Massachusetts and Michigan...which makes your claim TOTAL BULLSHIT!

The Texas governor removed safety precautions despite all scientific advice to wait until the infection rates went down which will assure more deaths than would have happened. What does that have to do with Trump being forced to approve aid?
 
cry about the economy then reopen businesses -

two things better happen thats for damn sure -

1. reopening isnt premature and sets off round 2 of the virus

2. people flock to businesses in droves and a magical recovery takes place overnight .
God, you're an idiot! The reopening of the economy is specifically designed so that people CAN'T flock to businesses in droves! Restaurants in Florida are open...but only at 25% capacity! Hard to have "droves" of customers in a business when only 25% of capacity is allowed! Duh?
 
Despite the constant increase in Covid 19 virus, cases, Greg Abbot thinks it is more important to bow to Trump and open the state for business as usual than it is to listen to the experts and wait until infection rates start to fall. How many more will unnecessarily die just so Abbot can get his brownie points from Trump?
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A better question is how many families are you willing to bankrupt so that the economy doesn't look good going into the Fall election? Do any of you liberals care about those people? They don't have any money. They have bills to pay. They need to feed their families. But you want to keep the nation closed down for as long as you can to make Trump look bad!

Here's the thing, Bulldog...

Those States that are opening back up now? They're going to be the ones who's economy bounces back the quickest. States like Michigan? With a Governor that wants to string this out for as long as she can? People that live there are FUCKED!!! See how that translates come November. Why would you vote for people that put politics above people?

That is absurd, but still a perfect example of Trump logic.

What's absurd about it? Let me guess...you think blue collar people who are forced into bankruptcy because liberal politicians prevent them from working are going to be "OK" with that? That election is in November. Those people are broke NOW! How do you think they're going to feel four months from now when they can't find work because so many companies went belly up? You think they're going to vote for Democrats...the Party that kept them out of work? You think they're going to look at people in States like Texas that have jobs, homes and food on the table and NOT blame the Democrats from THEIR State that kept that from happening?

Again, you dumb fools can't think of anything unless it is in terms of politics. This has a political aspect only because right wingers made it political. Politics should not even be part of the discussion.
I'm still waiting to hear what State was refused Federal aid because Trump was demanding "conditions"? You're ducking that...aren't you, Bulldog?

You're trying to pretend Trump has been competent throughout the emergency. He hasn't
Please provide a list of those "Leaders" who have been competent throughout the emergency.
By your own criteria, that defines as zero cases in their countries.
 
Despite the constant increase in Covid 19 virus, cases, Greg Abbot thinks it is more important to bow to Trump and open the state for business as usual than it is to listen to the experts and wait until infection rates start to fall.

Texas has had 888 deaths out of a population of 29 million. They rank 40 out of 50 states in deaths per million.

How many more will unnecessarily die just so Abbot can get his brownie points from Trump?

How many more will unnecessarily die due to poverty, domestic violence, drug and alcohol abuse, mental health issues, and non-related COVID-19 medical conditions so you can keep people on lock down, destroy their local economy, and score partisan political points?

If you want to discuss all those things, you should start a thread.

Why don't you answer the question, clown, since you're so quick to judge everybody else's motives?

As soon as you ask one on this subject, I will.

What's wrong? You can dish your bullshit out, but you can't take it when it's thrown back at you?

Come on, chucklehead, answer the question. How many more should die because of your partisan politics?

Just because right wingers only see things in terms of politics doesn't make that the case, dumb ass. The experts in the field have more credibility than what you might have heard on Fox and Friends.
You are crying about seeing things in terms of politics after the partisan OP you started this thread with?

You are a hypocritical moron.

I'm disgusted that a purely humanitarian situation is being dealt with by Trump and supporters in a purely partisan political way.
Interesting...
The States that Trump has concentrated the bulk of Federal relief on are all liberal strong holds. So if he's such a "partisan" then why isn't he telling the people in States he has no chance of ever winning in an election to go it on their own?
Oh, wait...he's not been partisan at all...he's helped those who need help DESPITE them hating his guts!

I guess fox didn't tell you about him threatening to withhold aid unless he received concessions.
What aid did he withhold? Name the State that didn't get Federal aid, Bulldog!

He told Pence to not call the governors back if they weren't properly appreciative.
I ask again...WHAT STATES WERE NOT GRANTED FEDERAL AID BECAUSE OF CONDITIONS DONALD TRUMP PUT ON THAT AID???
The truth is...he gave the bulk of the Federal aid that was provided to liberal strongholds like California, New Jersey, New York, Massachusetts and Michigan...which makes your claim TOTAL BULLSHIT!

The Texas governor removed safety precautions despite all scientific advice to wait until the infection rates went down which will assure more deaths than would have happened. What does that have to do with Trump being forced to approve aid?
What "scientific advice"?
"We don't know what's going on so stay home and starve to death."
 
Despite the constant increase in Covid 19 virus, cases, Greg Abbot thinks it is more important to bow to Trump and open the state for business as usual than it is to listen to the experts and wait until infection rates start to fall. How many more will unnecessarily die just so Abbot can get his brownie points from Trump?
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A better question is how many families are you willing to bankrupt so that the economy doesn't look good going into the Fall election? Do any of you liberals care about those people? They don't have any money. They have bills to pay. They need to feed their families. But you want to keep the nation closed down for as long as you can to make Trump look bad!

Here's the thing, Bulldog...

Those States that are opening back up now? They're going to be the ones who's economy bounces back the quickest. States like Michigan? With a Governor that wants to string this out for as long as she can? People that live there are FUCKED!!! See how that translates come November. Why would you vote for people that put politics above people?
Liberals love the poor...It's the very definition of being a Liberal.
Then the Liberals try to get professionals to pay more taxes to support the poor.
Actually...liberal politicians love the votes that the poor deliver to them when they're promised all kinds of freebies. Once they HAVE those votes most liberal politicians could care less about the plight of the poor!
The true purpose of any organization is to ensure the existence of that organization.

That's certainly the view that Trump has.
Because Liberal organizations have accomplished so much for humanity!
I see you missed the part where I was being impartial.

I'm looking for you to call for police and excellence in education in minority areas.
I'll be waiting for a long time.

The part where you have been impartial must have been long before I ever came along.
Thanks for admitting you never read my posts.
I have only posted a few thousand times that both Parties suck because they go to extremes and neither gives a shit about anyone but themselves.
The Rs are in love with slave labor and the Ds, well I should say Liberals, won't be happy until we're all poor...as long as the "all" is someone else.

If you support Trump, you are a Trump supporter. Sorry if you don't understand that.
 
Despite the constant increase in Covid 19 virus, cases, Greg Abbot thinks it is more important to bow to Trump and open the state for business as usual than it is to listen to the experts and wait until infection rates start to fall.

Texas has had 888 deaths out of a population of 29 million. They rank 40 out of 50 states in deaths per million.

How many more will unnecessarily die just so Abbot can get his brownie points from Trump?

How many more will unnecessarily die due to poverty, domestic violence, drug and alcohol abuse, mental health issues, and non-related COVID-19 medical conditions so you can keep people on lock down, destroy their local economy, and score partisan political points?

If you want to discuss all those things, you should start a thread.

Why don't you answer the question, clown, since you're so quick to judge everybody else's motives?

As soon as you ask one on this subject, I will.

What's wrong? You can dish your bullshit out, but you can't take it when it's thrown back at you?

Come on, chucklehead, answer the question. How many more should die because of your partisan politics?

Just because right wingers only see things in terms of politics doesn't make that the case, dumb ass. The experts in the field have more credibility than what you might have heard on Fox and Friends.
You are crying about seeing things in terms of politics after the partisan OP you started this thread with?

You are a hypocritical moron.

I'm disgusted that a purely humanitarian situation is being dealt with by Trump and supporters in a purely partisan political way.
Interesting...
The States that Trump has concentrated the bulk of Federal relief on are all liberal strong holds. So if he's such a "partisan" then why isn't he telling the people in States he has no chance of ever winning in an election to go it on their own?
Oh, wait...he's not been partisan at all...he's helped those who need help DESPITE them hating his guts!

I guess fox didn't tell you about him threatening to withhold aid unless he received concessions.
What aid did he withhold? Name the State that didn't get Federal aid, Bulldog!

He told Pence to not call the governors back if they weren't properly appreciative.
I ask again...WHAT STATES WERE NOT GRANTED FEDERAL AID BECAUSE OF CONDITIONS DONALD TRUMP PUT ON THAT AID???
The truth is...he gave the bulk of the Federal aid that was provided to liberal strongholds like California, New Jersey, New York, Massachusetts and Michigan...which makes your claim TOTAL BULLSHIT!

The Texas governor removed safety precautions despite all scientific advice to wait until the infection rates went down which will assure more deaths than would have happened. What does that have to do with Trump being forced to approve aid?
You tried to claim something that was total crap...got called on it...and now you're scrambling to change the discussion to what the Texas Governor did? You're looking a bit pathetic today. Might be a good time to you to tuck tail and scurry away!
 
Democrats don't care how many middle class citizens lose their livelyhood and have to go on welfare or freaking starve. It's all about politics.

No, it's not about politics. Trump and his supporters want to make it about that, but the experts disagree.
For conservatives it is about politics, of course.

Rightists know that with the economy in recession and millions of Americans out of work Trump will likely lose reelection, Republicans will likely lose the Senate, and the GOP will take a beating in down-ballot elections.

Conservatives will do anything to avoid this, including jeopardizing the health and lives of Americans, Abbot’s reckless, irresponsible ‘reopening’ being one of far too many examples.
For conservatives it is about politics, of course.

BULLDOG made it about politics in the OP, Window Licker.

Nope. Just responding to political right wingers.
And you will promote labor, concentration and death camps.
 
Despite the constant increase in Covid 19 virus, cases, Greg Abbot thinks it is more important to bow to Trump and open the state for business as usual than it is to listen to the experts and wait until infection rates start to fall. How many more will unnecessarily die just so Abbot can get his brownie points from Trump?
Your willingness to spew utter horse shit is duly noted Becky.
 
Despite the constant increase in Covid 19 virus, cases, Greg Abbot thinks it is more important to bow to Trump and open the state for business as usual than it is to listen to the experts and wait until infection rates start to fall. How many more will unnecessarily die just so Abbot can get his brownie points from Trump?
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So, what percentage of those diagnoses resulted in death?

Or are we conveniently leaving out that part?

He is leaving out the part where experts say we should wait till infection rates fall. Sorry, but you just don't have the credibility of the people who actually know what they are talking about.
Experts or bullshit artists looking out for their own interests? What passes for medical practice these days is nothing more than malpractice by check box. The assholes have become the most callous and insincere, two faced bastards on the face of the earth.


It's a shame the right has turned it's back on science.

Nobody has turned their back on science. We simply don't feel the need to go along with your pandemic fear tactics that shut down our entire economy. Science is showing us that the original estimates were grossly inflated.

Estimates are constantly adjusted to match new information. The ones you refer to were estimates if we did nothing.
And how close were those "estimates" to what took place, Bulldog? I'm hard pressed to think of another example that would fit the definition of "grossly inflated" than the estimates that were flying around about this virus!

The estimates were always reasonable, given the information that was available at the time.
 

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