Texas governor doesn't care how many die

Despite the constant increase in Covid 19 virus, cases, Greg Abbot thinks it is more important to bow to Trump and open the state for business as usual than it is to listen to the experts and wait until infection rates start to fall. How many more will unnecessarily die just so Abbot can get his brownie points from Trump?
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Such BULLSHIT

We're witnessing the biggest fabrication in world history.

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The Texas governor removed safety precautions despite experts advising him to wait. What part of that is fabricated?
These the same experts who told us we would have 2.2 MILLION dead?
 
Despite the constant increase in Covid 19 virus, cases, Greg Abbot thinks it is more important to bow to Trump and open the state for business as usual than it is to listen to the experts and wait until infection rates start to fall.

Texas has had 888 deaths out of a population of 29 million. They rank 40 out of 50 states in deaths per million.

How many more will unnecessarily die just so Abbot can get his brownie points from Trump?

How many more will unnecessarily die due to poverty, domestic violence, drug and alcohol abuse, mental health issues, and non-related COVID-19 medical conditions so you can keep people on lock down, destroy their local economy, and score partisan political points?

If you want to discuss all those things, you should start a thread.

Why don't you answer the question, clown, since you're so quick to judge everybody else's motives?

As soon as you ask one on this subject, I will.

What's wrong? You can dish your bullshit out, but you can't take it when it's thrown back at you?

Come on, chucklehead, answer the question. How many more should die because of your partisan politics?

Just because right wingers only see things in terms of politics doesn't make that the case, dumb ass. The experts in the field have more credibility than what you might have heard on Fox and Friends.
You are crying about seeing things in terms of politics after the partisan OP you started this thread with?

You are a hypocritical moron.

I'm disgusted that a purely humanitarian situation is being dealt with by Trump and supporters in a purely partisan political way.
Interesting...
The States that Trump has concentrated the bulk of Federal relief on are all liberal strong holds. So if he's such a "partisan" then why isn't he telling the people in States he has no chance of ever winning in an election to go it on their own?
Oh, wait...he's not been partisan at all...he's helped those who need help DESPITE them hating his guts!

I guess fox didn't tell you about him threatening to withhold aid unless he received concessions.
What aid did he withhold? Name the State that didn't get Federal aid, Bulldog!

He told Pence to not call the governors back if they weren't properly appreciative.
I ask again...WHAT STATES WERE NOT GRANTED FEDERAL AID BECAUSE OF CONDITIONS DONALD TRUMP PUT ON THAT AID???
The truth is...he gave the bulk of the Federal aid that was provided to liberal strongholds like California, New Jersey, New York, Massachusetts and Michigan...which makes your claim TOTAL BULLSHIT!

The Texas governor removed safety precautions despite all scientific advice to wait until the infection rates went down which will assure more deaths than would have happened. What does that have to do with Trump being forced to approve aid?
What "scientific advice"?
"We don't know what's going on so stay home and starve to death."

That is absurd.
 
cry about the economy then reopen businesses -

two things better happen thats for damn sure -

1. reopening isnt premature and sets off round 2 of the virus

2. people flock to businesses in droves and a magical recovery takes place overnight .
God, you're an idiot! The reopening of the economy is specifically designed so that people CAN'T flock to businesses in droves! Restaurants in Florida are open...but only at 25% capacity! Hard to have "droves" of customers in a business when only 25% of capacity is allowed! Duh?

Tx and Fl operate on sales tax revenue - per your 25% capacity they lose 75% of their revenue UNLESS they maintain a CONSTANT 25% revolving door capacity - aka FLOCK TO BUSINESSES IN DROVES.

DUH
So a "constant" 25% somehow attains "drove" status? It's 25% of capacity, you buffoon! That means 3/4's of the restaurant is EMPTY!
 
Despite the constant increase in Covid 19 virus, cases, Greg Abbot thinks it is more important to bow to Trump and open the state for business as usual than it is to listen to the experts and wait until infection rates start to fall.

Texas has had 888 deaths out of a population of 29 million. They rank 40 out of 50 states in deaths per million.

How many more will unnecessarily die just so Abbot can get his brownie points from Trump?

How many more will unnecessarily die due to poverty, domestic violence, drug and alcohol abuse, mental health issues, and non-related COVID-19 medical conditions so you can keep people on lock down, destroy their local economy, and score partisan political points?

If you want to discuss all those things, you should start a thread.

Why don't you answer the question, clown, since you're so quick to judge everybody else's motives?

As soon as you ask one on this subject, I will.

What's wrong? You can dish your bullshit out, but you can't take it when it's thrown back at you?

Come on, chucklehead, answer the question. How many more should die because of your partisan politics?

Just because right wingers only see things in terms of politics doesn't make that the case, dumb ass. The experts in the field have more credibility than what you might have heard on Fox and Friends.
You are crying about seeing things in terms of politics after the partisan OP you started this thread with?

You are a hypocritical moron.

I'm disgusted that a purely humanitarian situation is being dealt with by Trump and supporters in a purely partisan political way.
Interesting...
The States that Trump has concentrated the bulk of Federal relief on are all liberal strong holds. So if he's such a "partisan" then why isn't he telling the people in States he has no chance of ever winning in an election to go it on their own?
Oh, wait...he's not been partisan at all...he's helped those who need help DESPITE them hating his guts!

I guess fox didn't tell you about him threatening to withhold aid unless he received concessions.
What aid did he withhold? Name the State that didn't get Federal aid, Bulldog!

He told Pence to not call the governors back if they weren't properly appreciative.
I ask again...WHAT STATES WERE NOT GRANTED FEDERAL AID BECAUSE OF CONDITIONS DONALD TRUMP PUT ON THAT AID???
The truth is...he gave the bulk of the Federal aid that was provided to liberal strongholds like California, New Jersey, New York, Massachusetts and Michigan...which makes your claim TOTAL BULLSHIT!

The Texas governor removed safety precautions despite all scientific advice to wait until the infection rates went down which will assure more deaths than would have happened. What does that have to do with Trump being forced to approve aid?
You tried to claim something that was total crap...got called on it...and now you're scrambling to change the discussion to what the Texas Governor did? You're looking a bit pathetic today. Might be a good time to you to tuck tail and scurry away!

You might want to look at the thread title.
 
Despite the constant increase in Covid 19 virus, cases, Greg Abbot thinks it is more important to bow to Trump and open the state for business as usual than it is to listen to the experts and wait until infection rates start to fall. How many more will unnecessarily die just so Abbot can get his brownie points from Trump?
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A better question is how many families are you willing to bankrupt so that the economy doesn't look good going into the Fall election? Do any of you liberals care about those people? They don't have any money. They have bills to pay. They need to feed their families. But you want to keep the nation closed down for as long as you can to make Trump look bad!

Here's the thing, Bulldog...

Those States that are opening back up now? They're going to be the ones who's economy bounces back the quickest. States like Michigan? With a Governor that wants to string this out for as long as she can? People that live there are FUCKED!!! See how that translates come November. Why would you vote for people that put politics above people?

That is absurd, but still a perfect example of Trump logic.

What's absurd about it? Let me guess...you think blue collar people who are forced into bankruptcy because liberal politicians prevent them from working are going to be "OK" with that? That election is in November. Those people are broke NOW! How do you think they're going to feel four months from now when they can't find work because so many companies went belly up? You think they're going to vote for Democrats...the Party that kept them out of work? You think they're going to look at people in States like Texas that have jobs, homes and food on the table and NOT blame the Democrats from THEIR State that kept that from happening?

Again, you dumb fools can't think of anything unless it is in terms of politics. This has a political aspect only because right wingers made it political. Politics should not even be part of the discussion.
I'm still waiting to hear what State was refused Federal aid because Trump was demanding "conditions"? You're ducking that...aren't you, Bulldog?

You're trying to pretend Trump has been competent throughout the emergency. He hasn't

You're trying to pretend that Trump imposed "conditions" on States in return for Federal aid, Bulldog and I think you know that's total bullshit on your part. Just admit it and move on!

Are you trying to pretend that the Texas response is not an effort to curry favor with Trump?
What evidence do you have that it is? Your TDS is not evidence, BTW.
 
Despite the constant increase in Covid 19 virus, cases, Greg Abbot thinks it is more important to bow to Trump and open the state for business as usual than it is to listen to the experts and wait until infection rates start to fall. How many more will unnecessarily die just so Abbot can get his brownie points from Trump?
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A better question is how many families are you willing to bankrupt so that the economy doesn't look good going into the Fall election? Do any of you liberals care about those people? They don't have any money. They have bills to pay. They need to feed their families. But you want to keep the nation closed down for as long as you can to make Trump look bad!

Here's the thing, Bulldog...

Those States that are opening back up now? They're going to be the ones who's economy bounces back the quickest. States like Michigan? With a Governor that wants to string this out for as long as she can? People that live there are FUCKED!!! See how that translates come November. Why would you vote for people that put politics above people?

That is absurd, but still a perfect example of Trump logic.

What's absurd about it? Let me guess...you think blue collar people who are forced into bankruptcy because liberal politicians prevent them from working are going to be "OK" with that? That election is in November. Those people are broke NOW! How do you think they're going to feel four months from now when they can't find work because so many companies went belly up? You think they're going to vote for Democrats...the Party that kept them out of work? You think they're going to look at people in States like Texas that have jobs, homes and food on the table and NOT blame the Democrats from THEIR State that kept that from happening?

Again, you dumb fools can't think of anything unless it is in terms of politics. This has a political aspect only because right wingers made it political. Politics should not even be part of the discussion.
I'm still waiting to hear what State was refused Federal aid because Trump was demanding "conditions"? You're ducking that...aren't you, Bulldog?

You're trying to pretend Trump has been competent throughout the emergency. He hasn't

You're trying to pretend that Trump imposed "conditions" on States in return for Federal aid, Bulldog and I think you know that's total bullshit on your part. Just admit it and move on!

Are you trying to pretend that the Texas response is not an effort to curry favor with Trump?
I think the Texas "response" is an effort by the Texas Governor to curry favor with his voters! They're the ones that count...not Trump!
 
Despite the constant increase in Covid 19 virus, cases, Greg Abbot thinks it is more important to bow to Trump and open the state for business as usual than it is to listen to the experts and wait until infection rates start to fall. How many more will unnecessarily die just so Abbot can get his brownie points from Trump?
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Such BULLSHIT

We're witnessing the biggest fabrication in world history.

.

The Texas governor removed safety precautions despite experts advising him to wait. What part of that is fabricated?
The part where the 1,000 new cases a day are somehow related to the expiration of the stay-at-home orders, when there's a 14-day incubation period.

You can admit to the bullshit. It's okay. We all already know.

.

Do you think the infection rate will fall by removing the stay at home order?
 
Despite the constant increase in Covid 19 virus, cases, Greg Abbot thinks it is more important to bow to Trump and open the state for business as usual than it is to listen to the experts and wait until infection rates start to fall.

Texas has had 888 deaths out of a population of 29 million. They rank 40 out of 50 states in deaths per million.

How many more will unnecessarily die just so Abbot can get his brownie points from Trump?

How many more will unnecessarily die due to poverty, domestic violence, drug and alcohol abuse, mental health issues, and non-related COVID-19 medical conditions so you can keep people on lock down, destroy their local economy, and score partisan political points?

If you want to discuss all those things, you should start a thread.

Why don't you answer the question, clown, since you're so quick to judge everybody else's motives?

As soon as you ask one on this subject, I will.

What's wrong? You can dish your bullshit out, but you can't take it when it's thrown back at you?

Come on, chucklehead, answer the question. How many more should die because of your partisan politics?

Just because right wingers only see things in terms of politics doesn't make that the case, dumb ass. The experts in the field have more credibility than what you might have heard on Fox and Friends.
You are crying about seeing things in terms of politics after the partisan OP you started this thread with?

You are a hypocritical moron.

I'm disgusted that a purely humanitarian situation is being dealt with by Trump and supporters in a purely partisan political way.
Interesting...
The States that Trump has concentrated the bulk of Federal relief on are all liberal strong holds. So if he's such a "partisan" then why isn't he telling the people in States he has no chance of ever winning in an election to go it on their own?
Oh, wait...he's not been partisan at all...he's helped those who need help DESPITE them hating his guts!

I guess fox didn't tell you about him threatening to withhold aid unless he received concessions.
What aid did he withhold? Name the State that didn't get Federal aid, Bulldog!

He told Pence to not call the governors back if they weren't properly appreciative.
I ask again...WHAT STATES WERE NOT GRANTED FEDERAL AID BECAUSE OF CONDITIONS DONALD TRUMP PUT ON THAT AID???
The truth is...he gave the bulk of the Federal aid that was provided to liberal strongholds like California, New Jersey, New York, Massachusetts and Michigan...which makes your claim TOTAL BULLSHIT!

The Texas governor removed safety precautions despite all scientific advice to wait until the infection rates went down which will assure more deaths than would have happened. What does that have to do with Trump being forced to approve aid?
You tried to claim something that was total crap...got called on it...and now you're scrambling to change the discussion to what the Texas Governor did? You're looking a bit pathetic today. Might be a good time to you to tuck tail and scurry away!

You might want to look at the thread title.

You're the one that brought up "conditions", Bulldog! Now you want to steer the conversation back to the OP? Epic fail on your part!
 
You are the one who made it political in your opening post. And you still haven’t answered my question. What is the acceptable number of ruined lives and deaths attributed to your continued authoritarian lockdowns?

Don't have a lockdown. Let thousands die. How many people have died of poverty directly associated lockdown? How are you measuring it? What is the acceptable number of deaths for COVID-19 before measures are put in place? Or is the almighty dollar more important than peoples' lives? I'd suggest if there are drug and alcohol abuse and domestic violence going on there's more at play that just lock down.
As you have been told repeatedly there are less than a 1000 deaths here in TX. Shut your filthy lying mouth.
 
cry about the economy then reopen businesses -

two things better happen thats for damn sure -

1. reopening isnt premature and sets off round 2 of the virus

2. people flock to businesses in droves and a magical recovery takes place overnight .
God, you're an idiot! The reopening of the economy is specifically designed so that people CAN'T flock to businesses in droves! Restaurants in Florida are open...but only at 25% capacity! Hard to have "droves" of customers in a business when only 25% of capacity is allowed! Duh?

Tx and Fl operate on sales tax revenue - per your 25% capacity they lose 75% of their revenue UNLESS they maintain a CONSTANT 25% revolving door capacity - aka FLOCK TO BUSINESSES IN DROVES.

DUH
So a "constant" 25% somehow attains "drove" status? It's 25% of capacity, you buffoon! That means 3/4's of the restaurant is EMPTY!

and losing 75% of their revenue while still paying overhead -

business aint yer strong suit huh -
 
Despite the constant increase in Covid 19 virus, cases, Greg Abbot thinks it is more important to bow to Trump and open the state for business as usual than it is to listen to the experts and wait until infection rates start to fall. How many more will unnecessarily die just so Abbot can get his brownie points from Trump?
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A better question is how many families are you willing to bankrupt so that the economy doesn't look good going into the Fall election? Do any of you liberals care about those people? They don't have any money. They have bills to pay. They need to feed their families. But you want to keep the nation closed down for as long as you can to make Trump look bad!

Here's the thing, Bulldog...

Those States that are opening back up now? They're going to be the ones who's economy bounces back the quickest. States like Michigan? With a Governor that wants to string this out for as long as she can? People that live there are FUCKED!!! See how that translates come November. Why would you vote for people that put politics above people?

That is absurd, but still a perfect example of Trump logic.

What's absurd about it? Let me guess...you think blue collar people who are forced into bankruptcy because liberal politicians prevent them from working are going to be "OK" with that? That election is in November. Those people are broke NOW! How do you think they're going to feel four months from now when they can't find work because so many companies went belly up? You think they're going to vote for Democrats...the Party that kept them out of work? You think they're going to look at people in States like Texas that have jobs, homes and food on the table and NOT blame the Democrats from THEIR State that kept that from happening?

Again, you dumb fools can't think of anything unless it is in terms of politics. This has a political aspect only because right wingers made it political. Politics should not even be part of the discussion.
I'm still waiting to hear what State was refused Federal aid because Trump was demanding "conditions"? You're ducking that...aren't you, Bulldog?

You're trying to pretend Trump has been competent throughout the emergency. He hasn't

You're trying to pretend that Trump imposed "conditions" on States in return for Federal aid, Bulldog and I think you know that's total bullshit on your part. Just admit it and move on!

Are you trying to pretend that the Texas response is not an effort to curry favor with Trump?
The "Texas response" which I assume is Governor Abbot re-opening things, follows the wishes of Texans. It has nothing to do with Trump.

.

You keep telling yourself that.
 
Despite the constant increase in Covid 19 virus, cases, Greg Abbot thinks it is more important to bow to Trump and open the state for business as usual than it is to listen to the experts and wait until infection rates start to fall. How many more will unnecessarily die just so Abbot can get his brownie points from Trump?
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Such BULLSHIT

We're witnessing the biggest fabrication in world history.

.

The Texas governor removed safety precautions despite experts advising him to wait. What part of that is fabricated?
The part where the 1,000 new cases a day are somehow related to the expiration of the stay-at-home orders, when there's a 14-day incubation period.

You can admit to the bullshit. It's okay. We all already know.

.

Do you think the infection rate will fall by removing the stay at home order?
Of course not! Do you think you can keep healthy people quarantined in their homes until the virus goes away? Those people need to work now! Not two weeks from now. Not a month from now. Not three months from now! They're broke NOW and they need to make a living!
If you'll recall the original reason for the stay at home orders was so the hospitals wouldn't be overwhelmed. Even in NYC that didn't happen and that's the epicenter of Covid 19 for America! So what's the reason for stay at home orders now?
 
Despite the constant increase in Covid 19 virus, cases, Greg Abbot thinks it is more important to bow to Trump and open the state for business as usual than it is to listen to the experts and wait until infection rates start to fall. How many more will unnecessarily die just so Abbot can get his brownie points from Trump?
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Such BULLSHIT

We're witnessing the biggest fabrication in world history.

.

The Texas governor removed safety precautions despite experts advising him to wait. What part of that is fabricated?
These the same experts who told us we would have 2.2 MILLION dead?

With no response, we might have.
 
cry about the economy then reopen businesses -

two things better happen thats for damn sure -

1. reopening isnt premature and sets off round 2 of the virus

2. people flock to businesses in droves and a magical recovery takes place overnight .
God, you're an idiot! The reopening of the economy is specifically designed so that people CAN'T flock to businesses in droves! Restaurants in Florida are open...but only at 25% capacity! Hard to have "droves" of customers in a business when only 25% of capacity is allowed! Duh?

Tx and Fl operate on sales tax revenue - per your 25% capacity they lose 75% of their revenue UNLESS they maintain a CONSTANT 25% revolving door capacity - aka FLOCK TO BUSINESSES IN DROVES.

DUH
So a "constant" 25% somehow attains "drove" status? It's 25% of capacity, you buffoon! That means 3/4's of the restaurant is EMPTY!

and losing 75% of their revenue while still paying overhead -

business aint yer strong suit huh -
I've got an MBA actually. So let's look at the numbers...25% is less than 100%, that much is true but 25% is more than 0 and that's what most businesses WERE operating under.
So it's a first step towards a return to normalcy. A chance to bring in people who need a paycheck. An opportunity to show that businesses CAN adapt to circumstances and need to be given a chance to do so! You can't get to full capacity until you start the process. Businesses grasp that. Liberal ideologues like yourself obviously DON'T!
 
and losing 75% of their revenue while still paying overhead -

business aint yer strong suit huh -

I'm trying to understand your point. Are you saying the only viable options are a full lockdown or no restrictions whatsoever?

I'd say listen to the people who have the experience dealing with disease control and follow their protocol to a T -
 
Despite the constant increase in Covid 19 virus, cases, Greg Abbot thinks it is more important to bow to Trump and open the state for business as usual than it is to listen to the experts and wait until infection rates start to fall. How many more will unnecessarily die just so Abbot can get his brownie points from Trump?
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Such BULLSHIT

We're witnessing the biggest fabrication in world history.

.

The Texas governor removed safety precautions despite experts advising him to wait. What part of that is fabricated?
The part where the 1,000 new cases a day are somehow related to the expiration of the stay-at-home orders, when there's a 14-day incubation period.

You can admit to the bullshit. It's okay. We all already know.

.

Do you think the infection rate will fall by removing the stay at home order?
Of course not! Do you think you can keep healthy people quarantined in their homes until the virus goes away? Those people need to work now! Not two weeks from now. Not a month from now. Not three months from now! They're broke NOW and they need to make a living!
If you'll recall the original reason for the stay at home orders was so the hospitals wouldn't be overwhelmed. Even in NYC that didn't happen and that's the epicenter of Covid 19 for America! So what's the reason for stay at home orders now?

No. The original reason was to prevent unnecessary deaths. Overwhelming hospitals was just one of the things that would come along with that.
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and losing 75% of their revenue while still paying overhead -

business aint yer strong suit huh -

I'm trying to understand your point. Are you saying the only viable options are a full lockdown or no restrictions whatsoever?

I'd say listen to the people who have the experience dealing with disease control and follow their protocol to a T -
To a T, they say to do this until a cure or vaccine is available.
Up to 2 years.
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