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How 'campus carry' is spurring a Texas brain drain | Arts | Dallas News
Texas recently allowed college students to carry guns on campus. In addition to the spike in crime this has caused (the murder rate on college campuses in Texas has increased by FOUR HUNDRED per cent over the past four MONTHS), many professors and students, fearing for their lives, have found jobs or positions at colleges in other states.
This is another example of right wingers valuing their precious guns over the safety of their fellow citizens, or the quality of education in their state. Texas has become even more of a national laughingstock than it was already, and that's saying something.
Campus carry hasn't resulted in a single reported murder, assault, suicide attempt, or fatality in Texas or any other state that allows it. As pointed out by the campus carry policy working group at the University of Texas at Austin, there is zero evidence that campus carry has resulted in a spike in crime anywhere. Your factoid about the murder rate on Texas college campuses increasing 400% over the past four months is bogus--Texas's campus carry law has been in effect for only two and a half months, and there haven't been any on-campus murders during that time. In fact, there haven't been any resulting crimes (of any kind) reported since the new law took effect.
If the statistic you cited is based on anything more than your own imagination, it's probably based on the four months PRIOR TO THE NEW LAW TAKING EFFECT, when there was an on-campus murder at the University of Texas at Austin.
For anyone who cares, here are a few documents explaining why the Texas Legislature saw fit to legalize the licensed, concealed carry of handguns on public college campuses:
"A Refresher on the Case for Campus Carry in Texas" from Students for Concealed Carry, aka SCC (this a Google Archive; the actual page seems to be down): A Refresher on the Case for Campus Carry in Texas
SCC's 2015 Texas legislative handout (includes Dec. 9 - May 22, 2015, press releases and op-eds): SCC's 2015 Texas Legislative Handout
SCC’s Oct. 2, 2015 – Oct. 10, 2016, Texas press releases and op-eds: Texas Students for Concealed Carry - Campus Carry Press Releases & Op-Eds - Oct. 2, 2015 - Oct. 10, 2016
How 'campus carry' is spurring a Texas brain drain | Arts | Dallas News
Texas recently allowed college students to carry guns on campus. In addition to the spike in crime this has caused (the murder rate on college campuses in Texas has increased by FOUR HUNDRED per cent over the past four MONTHS), many professors and students, fearing for their lives, have found jobs or positions at colleges in other states.
This is another example of right wingers valuing their precious guns over the safety of their fellow citizens, or the quality of education in their state. Texas has become even more of a national laughingstock than it was already, and that's saying something.
Campus carry hasn't resulted in a single reported murder, assault, suicide attempt, or fatality in Texas or any other state that allows it. As pointed out by the campus carry policy working group at the University of Texas at Austin, there is zero evidence that campus carry has resulted in a spike in crime anywhere. Your factoid about the murder rate on Texas college campuses increasing 400% over the past four months is bogus--Texas's campus carry law has been in effect for only two and a half months, and there haven't been any on-campus murders during that time. In fact, there haven't been any resulting crimes (of any kind) reported since the new law took effect.
If the statistic you cited is based on anything more than your own imagination, it's probably based on the four months PRIOR TO THE NEW LAW TAKING EFFECT, when there was an on-campus murder at the University of Texas at Austin.
For anyone who cares, here are a few documents explaining why the Texas Legislature saw fit to legalize the licensed, concealed carry of handguns on public college campuses:
"A Refresher on the Case for Campus Carry in Texas" from Students for Concealed Carry, aka SCC (this a Google Archive; the actual page seems to be down): A Refresher on the Case for Campus Carry in Texas
SCC's 2015 Texas legislative handout (includes Dec. 9 - May 22, 2015, press releases and op-eds): SCC's 2015 Texas Legislative Handout
SCC’s Oct. 2, 2015 – Oct. 10, 2016, Texas press releases and op-eds: Texas Students for Concealed Carry - Campus Carry Press Releases & Op-Eds - Oct. 2, 2015 - Oct. 10, 2016
How 'campus carry' is spurring a Texas brain drain | Arts | Dallas News
Texas recently allowed college students to carry guns on campus. In addition to the spike in crime this has caused (the murder rate on college campuses in Texas has increased by FOUR HUNDRED per cent over the past four MONTHS), many professors and students, fearing for their lives, have found jobs or positions at colleges in other states.
This is another example of right wingers valuing their precious guns over the safety of their fellow citizens, or the quality of education in their state. Texas has become even more of a national laughingstock than it was already, and that's saying something.
Campus carry hasn't resulted in a single reported murder, assault, suicide attempt, or fatality in Texas or any other state that allows it. As pointed out by the campus carry policy working group at the University of Texas at Austin, there is zero evidence that campus carry has resulted in a spike in crime anywhere. Your factoid about the murder rate on Texas college campuses increasing 400% over the past four months is bogus--Texas's campus carry law has been in effect for only two and a half months, and there haven't been any on-campus murders during that time. In fact, there haven't been any resulting crimes (of any kind) reported since the new law took effect.
If the statistic you cited is based on anything more than your own imagination, it's probably based on the four months PRIOR TO THE NEW LAW TAKING EFFECT, when there was an on-campus murder at the University of Texas at Austin.
For anyone who cares, here are a few documents explaining why the Texas Legislature saw fit to legalize the licensed, concealed carry of handguns on public college campuses:
"A Refresher on the Case for Campus Carry in Texas" from Students for Concealed Carry, aka SCC (this a Google Archive; the actual page seems to be down): A Refresher on the Case for Campus Carry in Texas
SCC's 2015 Texas legislative handout (includes Dec. 9 - May 22, 2015, press releases and op-eds): SCC's 2015 Texas Legislative Handout
SCC’s Oct. 2, 2015 – Oct. 10, 2016, Texas press releases and op-eds: Texas Students for Concealed Carry - Campus Carry Press Releases & Op-Eds - Oct. 2, 2015 - Oct. 10, 2016
How 'campus carry' is spurring a Texas brain drain | Arts | Dallas News
Texas recently allowed college students to carry guns on campus. In addition to the spike in crime this has caused (the murder rate on college campuses in Texas has increased by FOUR HUNDRED per cent over the past four MONTHS), many professors and students, fearing for their lives, have found jobs or positions at colleges in other states.
This is another example of right wingers valuing their precious guns over the safety of their fellow citizens, or the quality of education in their state. Texas has become even more of a national laughingstock than it was already, and that's saying something.
Campus carry hasn't resulted in a single reported murder, assault, suicide attempt, or fatality in Texas or any other state that allows it. As pointed out by the campus carry policy working group at the University of Texas at Austin, there is zero evidence that campus carry has resulted in a spike in crime anywhere. Your factoid about the murder rate on Texas college campuses increasing 400% over the past four months is bogus--Texas's campus carry law has been in effect for only two and a half months, and there haven't been any on-campus murders during that time. In fact, there haven't been any resulting crimes (of any kind) reported since the new law took effect.
If the statistic you cited is based on anything more than your own imagination, it's probably based on the four months PRIOR TO THE NEW LAW TAKING EFFECT, when there was an on-campus murder at the University of Texas at Austin.
For anyone who cares, here are a few documents explaining why the Texas Legislature saw fit to legalize the licensed, concealed carry of handguns on public college campuses:
"A Refresher on the Case for Campus Carry in Texas" from Students for Concealed Carry, aka SCC (this a Google Archive; the actual page seems to be down): A Refresher on the Case for Campus Carry in Texas
SCC's 2015 Texas legislative handout (includes Dec. 9 - May 22, 2015, press releases and op-eds): SCC's 2015 Texas Legislative Handout
SCC’s Oct. 2, 2015 – Oct. 10, 2016, Texas press releases and op-eds: Texas Students for Concealed Carry - Campus Carry Press Releases & Op-Eds - Oct. 2, 2015 - Oct. 10, 2016
So the state legislature ignored the campus police and the wishes of the student body and the administration to force guns down the throat of institutions of higher learning.
How 'campus carry' is spurring a Texas brain drain | Arts | Dallas News
Texas recently allowed college students to carry guns on campus. In addition to the spike in crime this has caused (the murder rate on college campuses in Texas has increased by FOUR HUNDRED per cent over the past four MONTHS), many professors and students, fearing for their lives, have found jobs or positions at colleges in other states.
This is another example of right wingers valuing their precious guns over the safety of their fellow citizens, or the quality of education in their state. Texas has become even more of a national laughingstock than it was already, and that's saying something.
Campus carry hasn't resulted in a single reported murder, assault, suicide attempt, or fatality in Texas or any other state that allows it. As pointed out by the campus carry policy working group at the University of Texas at Austin, there is zero evidence that campus carry has resulted in a spike in crime anywhere. Your factoid about the murder rate on Texas college campuses increasing 400% over the past four months is bogus--Texas's campus carry law has been in effect for only two and a half months, and there haven't been any on-campus murders during that time. In fact, there haven't been any resulting crimes (of any kind) reported since the new law took effect.
If the statistic you cited is based on anything more than your own imagination, it's probably based on the four months PRIOR TO THE NEW LAW TAKING EFFECT, when there was an on-campus murder at the University of Texas at Austin.
For anyone who cares, here are a few documents explaining why the Texas Legislature saw fit to legalize the licensed, concealed carry of handguns on public college campuses:
"A Refresher on the Case for Campus Carry in Texas" from Students for Concealed Carry, aka SCC (this a Google Archive; the actual page seems to be down): A Refresher on the Case for Campus Carry in Texas
SCC's 2015 Texas legislative handout (includes Dec. 9 - May 22, 2015, press releases and op-eds): SCC's 2015 Texas Legislative Handout
SCC’s Oct. 2, 2015 – Oct. 10, 2016, Texas press releases and op-eds: Texas Students for Concealed Carry - Campus Carry Press Releases & Op-Eds - Oct. 2, 2015 - Oct. 10, 2016
So the state legislature ignored the campus police and the wishes of the student body and the administration to force guns down the throat of institutions of higher learning.
I'm gonna reread your little bullshit justifications and shake my head when a Charles Whitman style massacre happens again thanks to you allowing guns on campus. You know the original reason guns were banned on campus was in 1967 to prevent another clock tower massacre, right? It seems like you right wingers love to see people shot.How 'campus carry' is spurring a Texas brain drain | Arts | Dallas News
Texas recently allowed college students to carry guns on campus. In addition to the spike in crime this has caused (the murder rate on college campuses in Texas has increased by FOUR HUNDRED per cent over the past four MONTHS), many professors and students, fearing for their lives, have found jobs or positions at colleges in other states.
This is another example of right wingers valuing their precious guns over the safety of their fellow citizens, or the quality of education in their state. Texas has become even more of a national laughingstock than it was already, and that's saying something.
Campus carry hasn't resulted in a single reported murder, assault, suicide attempt, or fatality in Texas or any other state that allows it. As pointed out by the campus carry policy working group at the University of Texas at Austin, there is zero evidence that campus carry has resulted in a spike in crime anywhere. Your factoid about the murder rate on Texas college campuses increasing 400% over the past four months is bogus--Texas's campus carry law has been in effect for only two and a half months, and there haven't been any on-campus murders during that time. In fact, there haven't been any resulting crimes (of any kind) reported since the new law took effect.
If the statistic you cited is based on anything more than your own imagination, it's probably based on the four months PRIOR TO THE NEW LAW TAKING EFFECT, when there was an on-campus murder at the University of Texas at Austin.
For anyone who cares, here are a few documents explaining why the Texas Legislature saw fit to legalize the licensed, concealed carry of handguns on public college campuses:
"A Refresher on the Case for Campus Carry in Texas" from Students for Concealed Carry, aka SCC (this a Google Archive; the actual page seems to be down): A Refresher on the Case for Campus Carry in Texas
SCC's 2015 Texas legislative handout (includes Dec. 9 - May 22, 2015, press releases and op-eds): SCC's 2015 Texas Legislative Handout
SCC’s Oct. 2, 2015 – Oct. 10, 2016, Texas press releases and op-eds: Texas Students for Concealed Carry - Campus Carry Press Releases & Op-Eds - Oct. 2, 2015 - Oct. 10, 2016
So the state legislature ignored the campus police and the wishes of the student body and the administration to force guns down the throat of institutions of higher learning.
Campus police are not universally against campus carry. The chiefs of police who chose to voice an opinion prior to the passage of the Texas law sided with their employers (university administrators), in opposition to the proposed law, but that's in keeping with what we saw twenty years ago when Texas was debating the idea of licensed concealed carry in general. Many chiefs of police initially opposed concealed carry but later had a change of heart after they saw that the program works well.
You're probably right that most college students opposed the passage of the law, but an argumentum ad populum doesn't trump factual evidence. And like the chiefs of police who initially opposed concealed handgun licensing, the students who opposed campus carry seem to be getting over it pretty quickly.
Suggesting that the unfounded opinion of any particular group--much less a university student body, a group that is not only transient but largely too young to obtain a license to carry--should trump factual evidence in deciding this (or any) law is more than a little misguided. There is a reason laws are passed by elected representatives tasked with researching the facts and making informed decisions.
Texas legislators researched the facts and found no reason that someone who is vetted and licensed to carry a concealed handgun at a movie theater on Friday, at a shopping mall on Saturday, and in a church on Sunday should be prohibited from doing so in a lecture hall on Monday. They concluded that there is no fundamental difference between carrying a gun in a municipal library and carrying a gun in a campus library. They decided that the same adults who already had the right to carry guns in the outdoor areas of college campuses and who had long been trusted to carry guns throughout the Texas Capitol could be trusted to do so in college buildings.
You got all that out of the Dallas News article ??How 'campus carry' is spurring a Texas brain drain | Arts | Dallas News
Texas recently allowed college students to carry guns on campus. In addition to the spike in crime this has caused (the murder rate on college campuses in Texas has increased by FOUR HUNDRED per cent over the past four MONTHS), many professors and students, fearing for their lives, have found jobs or positions at colleges in other states.
This is another example of right wingers valuing their precious guns over the safety of their fellow citizens, or the quality of education in their state. Texas has become even more of a national laughingstock than it was already, and that's saying something.
So many fallacies. You are almost funny. And pathetic.Guns are not an effective means of self defense. There are about 300 cases of self defense with a gun per year, compared o 33,00 deaths from gun violenceI do not care how many bad men have guns, as long as good men are not denied an effective means of defending themselves.
I'm gonna reread your little bullshit justifications and shake my head when a Charles Whitman style massacre happens again thanks to you allowing guns on campus. You know the original reason guns were banned on campus was in 1967 to prevent another clock tower massacre, right? It seems like you right wingers love to see people shot.How 'campus carry' is spurring a Texas brain drain | Arts | Dallas News
Texas recently allowed college students to carry guns on campus. In addition to the spike in crime this has caused (the murder rate on college campuses in Texas has increased by FOUR HUNDRED per cent over the past four MONTHS), many professors and students, fearing for their lives, have found jobs or positions at colleges in other states.
This is another example of right wingers valuing their precious guns over the safety of their fellow citizens, or the quality of education in their state. Texas has become even more of a national laughingstock than it was already, and that's saying something.
Campus carry hasn't resulted in a single reported murder, assault, suicide attempt, or fatality in Texas or any other state that allows it. As pointed out by the campus carry policy working group at the University of Texas at Austin, there is zero evidence that campus carry has resulted in a spike in crime anywhere. Your factoid about the murder rate on Texas college campuses increasing 400% over the past four months is bogus--Texas's campus carry law has been in effect for only two and a half months, and there haven't been any on-campus murders during that time. In fact, there haven't been any resulting crimes (of any kind) reported since the new law took effect.
If the statistic you cited is based on anything more than your own imagination, it's probably based on the four months PRIOR TO THE NEW LAW TAKING EFFECT, when there was an on-campus murder at the University of Texas at Austin.
For anyone who cares, here are a few documents explaining why the Texas Legislature saw fit to legalize the licensed, concealed carry of handguns on public college campuses:
"A Refresher on the Case for Campus Carry in Texas" from Students for Concealed Carry, aka SCC (this a Google Archive; the actual page seems to be down): A Refresher on the Case for Campus Carry in Texas
SCC's 2015 Texas legislative handout (includes Dec. 9 - May 22, 2015, press releases and op-eds): SCC's 2015 Texas Legislative Handout
SCC’s Oct. 2, 2015 – Oct. 10, 2016, Texas press releases and op-eds: Texas Students for Concealed Carry - Campus Carry Press Releases & Op-Eds - Oct. 2, 2015 - Oct. 10, 2016
So the state legislature ignored the campus police and the wishes of the student body and the administration to force guns down the throat of institutions of higher learning.
Campus police are not universally against campus carry. The chiefs of police who chose to voice an opinion prior to the passage of the Texas law sided with their employers (university administrators), in opposition to the proposed law, but that's in keeping with what we saw twenty years ago when Texas was debating the idea of licensed concealed carry in general. Many chiefs of police initially opposed concealed carry but later had a change of heart after they saw that the program works well.
You're probably right that most college students opposed the passage of the law, but an argumentum ad populum doesn't trump factual evidence. And like the chiefs of police who initially opposed concealed handgun licensing, the students who opposed campus carry seem to be getting over it pretty quickly.
Suggesting that the unfounded opinion of any particular group--much less a university student body, a group that is not only transient but largely too young to obtain a license to carry--should trump factual evidence in deciding this (or any) law is more than a little misguided. There is a reason laws are passed by elected representatives tasked with researching the facts and making informed decisions.
Texas legislators researched the facts and found no reason that someone who is vetted and licensed to carry a concealed handgun at a movie theater on Friday, at a shopping mall on Saturday, and in a church on Sunday should be prohibited from doing so in a lecture hall on Monday. They concluded that there is no fundamental difference between carrying a gun in a municipal library and carrying a gun in a campus library. They decided that the same adults who already had the right to carry guns in the outdoor areas of college campuses and who had long been trusted to carry guns throughout the Texas Capitol could be trusted to do so in college buildings.
I'm gonna reread your little bullshit justifications and shake my head when a Charles Whitman style massacre happens again thanks to you allowing guns on campus. You know the original reason guns were banned on campus was in 1967 to prevent another clock tower massacre, right? It seems like you right wingers love to see people shot.How 'campus carry' is spurring a Texas brain drain | Arts | Dallas News
Texas recently allowed college students to carry guns on campus. In addition to the spike in crime this has caused (the murder rate on college campuses in Texas has increased by FOUR HUNDRED per cent over the past four MONTHS), many professors and students, fearing for their lives, have found jobs or positions at colleges in other states.
This is another example of right wingers valuing their precious guns over the safety of their fellow citizens, or the quality of education in their state. Texas has become even more of a national laughingstock than it was already, and that's saying something.
Campus carry hasn't resulted in a single reported murder, assault, suicide attempt, or fatality in Texas or any other state that allows it. As pointed out by the campus carry policy working group at the University of Texas at Austin, there is zero evidence that campus carry has resulted in a spike in crime anywhere. Your factoid about the murder rate on Texas college campuses increasing 400% over the past four months is bogus--Texas's campus carry law has been in effect for only two and a half months, and there haven't been any on-campus murders during that time. In fact, there haven't been any resulting crimes (of any kind) reported since the new law took effect.
If the statistic you cited is based on anything more than your own imagination, it's probably based on the four months PRIOR TO THE NEW LAW TAKING EFFECT, when there was an on-campus murder at the University of Texas at Austin.
For anyone who cares, here are a few documents explaining why the Texas Legislature saw fit to legalize the licensed, concealed carry of handguns on public college campuses:
"A Refresher on the Case for Campus Carry in Texas" from Students for Concealed Carry, aka SCC (this a Google Archive; the actual page seems to be down): A Refresher on the Case for Campus Carry in Texas
SCC's 2015 Texas legislative handout (includes Dec. 9 - May 22, 2015, press releases and op-eds): SCC's 2015 Texas Legislative Handout
SCC’s Oct. 2, 2015 – Oct. 10, 2016, Texas press releases and op-eds: Texas Students for Concealed Carry - Campus Carry Press Releases & Op-Eds - Oct. 2, 2015 - Oct. 10, 2016
So the state legislature ignored the campus police and the wishes of the student body and the administration to force guns down the throat of institutions of higher learning.
Campus police are not universally against campus carry. The chiefs of police who chose to voice an opinion prior to the passage of the Texas law sided with their employers (university administrators), in opposition to the proposed law, but that's in keeping with what we saw twenty years ago when Texas was debating the idea of licensed concealed carry in general. Many chiefs of police initially opposed concealed carry but later had a change of heart after they saw that the program works well.
You're probably right that most college students opposed the passage of the law, but an argumentum ad populum doesn't trump factual evidence. And like the chiefs of police who initially opposed concealed handgun licensing, the students who opposed campus carry seem to be getting over it pretty quickly.
Suggesting that the unfounded opinion of any particular group--much less a university student body, a group that is not only transient but largely too young to obtain a license to carry--should trump factual evidence in deciding this (or any) law is more than a little misguided. There is a reason laws are passed by elected representatives tasked with researching the facts and making informed decisions.
Texas legislators researched the facts and found no reason that someone who is vetted and licensed to carry a concealed handgun at a movie theater on Friday, at a shopping mall on Saturday, and in a church on Sunday should be prohibited from doing so in a lecture hall on Monday. They concluded that there is no fundamental difference between carrying a gun in a municipal library and carrying a gun in a campus library. They decided that the same adults who already had the right to carry guns in the outdoor areas of college campuses and who had long been trusted to carry guns throughout the Texas Capitol could be trusted to do so in college buildings.
I'm gonna reread your little bullshit justifications and shake my head when a Charles Whitman style massacre happens again thanks to you allowing guns on campus. You know the original reason guns were banned on campus was in 1967 to prevent another clock tower massacre, right? It seems like you right wingers love to see people shot.How 'campus carry' is spurring a Texas brain drain | Arts | Dallas News
Texas recently allowed college students to carry guns on campus. In addition to the spike in crime this has caused (the murder rate on college campuses in Texas has increased by FOUR HUNDRED per cent over the past four MONTHS), many professors and students, fearing for their lives, have found jobs or positions at colleges in other states.
This is another example of right wingers valuing their precious guns over the safety of their fellow citizens, or the quality of education in their state. Texas has become even more of a national laughingstock than it was already, and that's saying something.
Campus carry hasn't resulted in a single reported murder, assault, suicide attempt, or fatality in Texas or any other state that allows it. As pointed out by the campus carry policy working group at the University of Texas at Austin, there is zero evidence that campus carry has resulted in a spike in crime anywhere. Your factoid about the murder rate on Texas college campuses increasing 400% over the past four months is bogus--Texas's campus carry law has been in effect for only two and a half months, and there haven't been any on-campus murders during that time. In fact, there haven't been any resulting crimes (of any kind) reported since the new law took effect.
If the statistic you cited is based on anything more than your own imagination, it's probably based on the four months PRIOR TO THE NEW LAW TAKING EFFECT, when there was an on-campus murder at the University of Texas at Austin.
For anyone who cares, here are a few documents explaining why the Texas Legislature saw fit to legalize the licensed, concealed carry of handguns on public college campuses:
"A Refresher on the Case for Campus Carry in Texas" from Students for Concealed Carry, aka SCC (this a Google Archive; the actual page seems to be down): A Refresher on the Case for Campus Carry in Texas
SCC's 2015 Texas legislative handout (includes Dec. 9 - May 22, 2015, press releases and op-eds): SCC's 2015 Texas Legislative Handout
SCC’s Oct. 2, 2015 – Oct. 10, 2016, Texas press releases and op-eds: Texas Students for Concealed Carry - Campus Carry Press Releases & Op-Eds - Oct. 2, 2015 - Oct. 10, 2016
So the state legislature ignored the campus police and the wishes of the student body and the administration to force guns down the throat of institutions of higher learning.
Campus police are not universally against campus carry. The chiefs of police who chose to voice an opinion prior to the passage of the Texas law sided with their employers (university administrators), in opposition to the proposed law, but that's in keeping with what we saw twenty years ago when Texas was debating the idea of licensed concealed carry in general. Many chiefs of police initially opposed concealed carry but later had a change of heart after they saw that the program works well.
You're probably right that most college students opposed the passage of the law, but an argumentum ad populum doesn't trump factual evidence. And like the chiefs of police who initially opposed concealed handgun licensing, the students who opposed campus carry seem to be getting over it pretty quickly.
Suggesting that the unfounded opinion of any particular group--much less a university student body, a group that is not only transient but largely too young to obtain a license to carry--should trump factual evidence in deciding this (or any) law is more than a little misguided. There is a reason laws are passed by elected representatives tasked with researching the facts and making informed decisions.
Texas legislators researched the facts and found no reason that someone who is vetted and licensed to carry a concealed handgun at a movie theater on Friday, at a shopping mall on Saturday, and in a church on Sunday should be prohibited from doing so in a lecture hall on Monday. They concluded that there is no fundamental difference between carrying a gun in a municipal library and carrying a gun in a campus library. They decided that the same adults who already had the right to carry guns in the outdoor areas of college campuses and who had long been trusted to carry guns throughout the Texas Capitol could be trusted to do so in college buildings.
If guns weren't allowed on campus in the first place, then this whole shitty scenario would be avoided altogether. Instead, a deranged was legally allowed to bring a high powered sniper rifle onto a college campus, and look what happened. They changed the law to try to avoid this issue, only to be sabotaged 40 years later by gun nut conservatives with no knowledge of history.I'm gonna reread your little bullshit justifications and shake my head when a Charles Whitman style massacre happens again thanks to you allowing guns on campus. You know the original reason guns were banned on campus was in 1967 to prevent another clock tower massacre, right? It seems like you right wingers love to see people shot.How 'campus carry' is spurring a Texas brain drain | Arts | Dallas News
Texas recently allowed college students to carry guns on campus. In addition to the spike in crime this has caused (the murder rate on college campuses in Texas has increased by FOUR HUNDRED per cent over the past four MONTHS), many professors and students, fearing for their lives, have found jobs or positions at colleges in other states.
This is another example of right wingers valuing their precious guns over the safety of their fellow citizens, or the quality of education in their state. Texas has become even more of a national laughingstock than it was already, and that's saying something.
Campus carry hasn't resulted in a single reported murder, assault, suicide attempt, or fatality in Texas or any other state that allows it. As pointed out by the campus carry policy working group at the University of Texas at Austin, there is zero evidence that campus carry has resulted in a spike in crime anywhere. Your factoid about the murder rate on Texas college campuses increasing 400% over the past four months is bogus--Texas's campus carry law has been in effect for only two and a half months, and there haven't been any on-campus murders during that time. In fact, there haven't been any resulting crimes (of any kind) reported since the new law took effect.
If the statistic you cited is based on anything more than your own imagination, it's probably based on the four months PRIOR TO THE NEW LAW TAKING EFFECT, when there was an on-campus murder at the University of Texas at Austin.
For anyone who cares, here are a few documents explaining why the Texas Legislature saw fit to legalize the licensed, concealed carry of handguns on public college campuses:
"A Refresher on the Case for Campus Carry in Texas" from Students for Concealed Carry, aka SCC (this a Google Archive; the actual page seems to be down): A Refresher on the Case for Campus Carry in Texas
SCC's 2015 Texas legislative handout (includes Dec. 9 - May 22, 2015, press releases and op-eds): SCC's 2015 Texas Legislative Handout
SCC’s Oct. 2, 2015 – Oct. 10, 2016, Texas press releases and op-eds: Texas Students for Concealed Carry - Campus Carry Press Releases & Op-Eds - Oct. 2, 2015 - Oct. 10, 2016
So the state legislature ignored the campus police and the wishes of the student body and the administration to force guns down the throat of institutions of higher learning.
Campus police are not universally against campus carry. The chiefs of police who chose to voice an opinion prior to the passage of the Texas law sided with their employers (university administrators), in opposition to the proposed law, but that's in keeping with what we saw twenty years ago when Texas was debating the idea of licensed concealed carry in general. Many chiefs of police initially opposed concealed carry but later had a change of heart after they saw that the program works well.
You're probably right that most college students opposed the passage of the law, but an argumentum ad populum doesn't trump factual evidence. And like the chiefs of police who initially opposed concealed handgun licensing, the students who opposed campus carry seem to be getting over it pretty quickly.
Suggesting that the unfounded opinion of any particular group--much less a university student body, a group that is not only transient but largely too young to obtain a license to carry--should trump factual evidence in deciding this (or any) law is more than a little misguided. There is a reason laws are passed by elected representatives tasked with researching the facts and making informed decisions.
Texas legislators researched the facts and found no reason that someone who is vetted and licensed to carry a concealed handgun at a movie theater on Friday, at a shopping mall on Saturday, and in a church on Sunday should be prohibited from doing so in a lecture hall on Monday. They concluded that there is no fundamental difference between carrying a gun in a municipal library and carrying a gun in a campus library. They decided that the same adults who already had the right to carry guns in the outdoor areas of college campuses and who had long been trusted to carry guns throughout the Texas Capitol could be trusted to do so in college buildings.
Moron....this actually happened when whitman started shooting....students with hunting rifles returned fire and helped to save lives....
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CLIF DRUMMOND was a senior and the student body president. He is a high-tech executive in Austin.
Students with deer rifles were leaning up against telephone poles, using the pole, which is rather narrow, as their shield. And they were firing like crazy back at the Tower.
FORREST PREECE was a junior. A retired advertising executive, he lives in Austin.
I saw two guys in white shirts and slacks running across the lawn of the Pi Phi house, hustling up to its porch with rifles at the ready. Someone was yelling, “Keep down, man. Keep down!”
BRENDA BELL: I don’t know where these vigilantes came from, but they took over Parlin Hall and were crashing around, firing guns. There was massive testosterone.
J. M. COETZEE was a Ph.D. candidate in English literature and linguistics. A novelist who won the 2003 Nobel Prize for literature, he lives in Adelaide, Australia.
I hadn’t fully comprehended that lots of people around me in Austin not only owned guns but had them close at hand and regarded themselves as free to use them.
BILL HELMER: I remember thinking, “All we need is a bunch of idiots running around with rifles.” But what they did turned out to be brilliant. Once he could no longer lean over the edge and fire, he was much more limited in what he could do. He had to shoot through those drain spouts, or he had to pop up real fast and then dive down again. That’s why he did most of his damage in the first twenty minutes.
If guns weren't allowed on campus in the first place, then this whole shitty scenario would be avoided altogether. Instead, a deranged was legally allowed to bring a high powered sniper rifle onto a college campus, and look what happened. They changed the law to try to avoid this issue, only to be sabotaged 40 years later by gun nut conservatives with no knowledge of history.I'm gonna reread your little bullshit justifications and shake my head when a Charles Whitman style massacre happens again thanks to you allowing guns on campus. You know the original reason guns were banned on campus was in 1967 to prevent another clock tower massacre, right? It seems like you right wingers love to see people shot.Campus carry hasn't resulted in a single reported murder, assault, suicide attempt, or fatality in Texas or any other state that allows it. As pointed out by the campus carry policy working group at the University of Texas at Austin, there is zero evidence that campus carry has resulted in a spike in crime anywhere. Your factoid about the murder rate on Texas college campuses increasing 400% over the past four months is bogus--Texas's campus carry law has been in effect for only two and a half months, and there haven't been any on-campus murders during that time. In fact, there haven't been any resulting crimes (of any kind) reported since the new law took effect.
If the statistic you cited is based on anything more than your own imagination, it's probably based on the four months PRIOR TO THE NEW LAW TAKING EFFECT, when there was an on-campus murder at the University of Texas at Austin.
For anyone who cares, here are a few documents explaining why the Texas Legislature saw fit to legalize the licensed, concealed carry of handguns on public college campuses:
"A Refresher on the Case for Campus Carry in Texas" from Students for Concealed Carry, aka SCC (this a Google Archive; the actual page seems to be down): A Refresher on the Case for Campus Carry in Texas
SCC's 2015 Texas legislative handout (includes Dec. 9 - May 22, 2015, press releases and op-eds): SCC's 2015 Texas Legislative Handout
SCC’s Oct. 2, 2015 – Oct. 10, 2016, Texas press releases and op-eds: Texas Students for Concealed Carry - Campus Carry Press Releases & Op-Eds - Oct. 2, 2015 - Oct. 10, 2016
So the state legislature ignored the campus police and the wishes of the student body and the administration to force guns down the throat of institutions of higher learning.
Campus police are not universally against campus carry. The chiefs of police who chose to voice an opinion prior to the passage of the Texas law sided with their employers (university administrators), in opposition to the proposed law, but that's in keeping with what we saw twenty years ago when Texas was debating the idea of licensed concealed carry in general. Many chiefs of police initially opposed concealed carry but later had a change of heart after they saw that the program works well.
You're probably right that most college students opposed the passage of the law, but an argumentum ad populum doesn't trump factual evidence. And like the chiefs of police who initially opposed concealed handgun licensing, the students who opposed campus carry seem to be getting over it pretty quickly.
Suggesting that the unfounded opinion of any particular group--much less a university student body, a group that is not only transient but largely too young to obtain a license to carry--should trump factual evidence in deciding this (or any) law is more than a little misguided. There is a reason laws are passed by elected representatives tasked with researching the facts and making informed decisions.
Texas legislators researched the facts and found no reason that someone who is vetted and licensed to carry a concealed handgun at a movie theater on Friday, at a shopping mall on Saturday, and in a church on Sunday should be prohibited from doing so in a lecture hall on Monday. They concluded that there is no fundamental difference between carrying a gun in a municipal library and carrying a gun in a campus library. They decided that the same adults who already had the right to carry guns in the outdoor areas of college campuses and who had long been trusted to carry guns throughout the Texas Capitol could be trusted to do so in college buildings.
Moron....this actually happened when whitman started shooting....students with hunting rifles returned fire and helped to save lives....
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CLIF DRUMMOND was a senior and the student body president. He is a high-tech executive in Austin.
Students with deer rifles were leaning up against telephone poles, using the pole, which is rather narrow, as their shield. And they were firing like crazy back at the Tower.
FORREST PREECE was a junior. A retired advertising executive, he lives in Austin.
I saw two guys in white shirts and slacks running across the lawn of the Pi Phi house, hustling up to its porch with rifles at the ready. Someone was yelling, “Keep down, man. Keep down!”
BRENDA BELL: I don’t know where these vigilantes came from, but they took over Parlin Hall and were crashing around, firing guns. There was massive testosterone.
J. M. COETZEE was a Ph.D. candidate in English literature and linguistics. A novelist who won the 2003 Nobel Prize for literature, he lives in Adelaide, Australia.
I hadn’t fully comprehended that lots of people around me in Austin not only owned guns but had them close at hand and regarded themselves as free to use them.
BILL HELMER: I remember thinking, “All we need is a bunch of idiots running around with rifles.” But what they did turned out to be brilliant. Once he could no longer lean over the edge and fire, he was much more limited in what he could do. He had to shoot through those drain spouts, or he had to pop up real fast and then dive down again. That’s why he did most of his damage in the first twenty minutes.
If guns weren't allowed on campus in the first place, then this whole shitty scenario would be avoided altogether. Instead, a deranged was legally allowed to bring a high powered sniper rifle onto a college campus, and look what happened. They changed the law to try to avoid this issue, only to be sabotaged 40 years later by gun nut conservatives with no knowledge of history.I'm gonna reread your little bullshit justifications and shake my head when a Charles Whitman style massacre happens again thanks to you allowing guns on campus. You know the original reason guns were banned on campus was in 1967 to prevent another clock tower massacre, right? It seems like you right wingers love to see people shot.Campus carry hasn't resulted in a single reported murder, assault, suicide attempt, or fatality in Texas or any other state that allows it. As pointed out by the campus carry policy working group at the University of Texas at Austin, there is zero evidence that campus carry has resulted in a spike in crime anywhere. Your factoid about the murder rate on Texas college campuses increasing 400% over the past four months is bogus--Texas's campus carry law has been in effect for only two and a half months, and there haven't been any on-campus murders during that time. In fact, there haven't been any resulting crimes (of any kind) reported since the new law took effect.
If the statistic you cited is based on anything more than your own imagination, it's probably based on the four months PRIOR TO THE NEW LAW TAKING EFFECT, when there was an on-campus murder at the University of Texas at Austin.
For anyone who cares, here are a few documents explaining why the Texas Legislature saw fit to legalize the licensed, concealed carry of handguns on public college campuses:
"A Refresher on the Case for Campus Carry in Texas" from Students for Concealed Carry, aka SCC (this a Google Archive; the actual page seems to be down): A Refresher on the Case for Campus Carry in Texas
SCC's 2015 Texas legislative handout (includes Dec. 9 - May 22, 2015, press releases and op-eds): SCC's 2015 Texas Legislative Handout
SCC’s Oct. 2, 2015 – Oct. 10, 2016, Texas press releases and op-eds: Texas Students for Concealed Carry - Campus Carry Press Releases & Op-Eds - Oct. 2, 2015 - Oct. 10, 2016
So the state legislature ignored the campus police and the wishes of the student body and the administration to force guns down the throat of institutions of higher learning.
Campus police are not universally against campus carry. The chiefs of police who chose to voice an opinion prior to the passage of the Texas law sided with their employers (university administrators), in opposition to the proposed law, but that's in keeping with what we saw twenty years ago when Texas was debating the idea of licensed concealed carry in general. Many chiefs of police initially opposed concealed carry but later had a change of heart after they saw that the program works well.
You're probably right that most college students opposed the passage of the law, but an argumentum ad populum doesn't trump factual evidence. And like the chiefs of police who initially opposed concealed handgun licensing, the students who opposed campus carry seem to be getting over it pretty quickly.
Suggesting that the unfounded opinion of any particular group--much less a university student body, a group that is not only transient but largely too young to obtain a license to carry--should trump factual evidence in deciding this (or any) law is more than a little misguided. There is a reason laws are passed by elected representatives tasked with researching the facts and making informed decisions.
Texas legislators researched the facts and found no reason that someone who is vetted and licensed to carry a concealed handgun at a movie theater on Friday, at a shopping mall on Saturday, and in a church on Sunday should be prohibited from doing so in a lecture hall on Monday. They concluded that there is no fundamental difference between carrying a gun in a municipal library and carrying a gun in a campus library. They decided that the same adults who already had the right to carry guns in the outdoor areas of college campuses and who had long been trusted to carry guns throughout the Texas Capitol could be trusted to do so in college buildings.
Moron....this actually happened when whitman started shooting....students with hunting rifles returned fire and helped to save lives....
96 Minutes
CLIF DRUMMOND was a senior and the student body president. He is a high-tech executive in Austin.
Students with deer rifles were leaning up against telephone poles, using the pole, which is rather narrow, as their shield. And they were firing like crazy back at the Tower.
FORREST PREECE was a junior. A retired advertising executive, he lives in Austin.
I saw two guys in white shirts and slacks running across the lawn of the Pi Phi house, hustling up to its porch with rifles at the ready. Someone was yelling, “Keep down, man. Keep down!”
BRENDA BELL: I don’t know where these vigilantes came from, but they took over Parlin Hall and were crashing around, firing guns. There was massive testosterone.
J. M. COETZEE was a Ph.D. candidate in English literature and linguistics. A novelist who won the 2003 Nobel Prize for literature, he lives in Adelaide, Australia.
I hadn’t fully comprehended that lots of people around me in Austin not only owned guns but had them close at hand and regarded themselves as free to use them.
BILL HELMER: I remember thinking, “All we need is a bunch of idiots running around with rifles.” But what they did turned out to be brilliant. Once he could no longer lean over the edge and fire, he was much more limited in what he could do. He had to shoot through those drain spouts, or he had to pop up real fast and then dive down again. That’s why he did most of his damage in the first twenty minutes.
More mindless nonsense form a village useful idiot.So the state legislature ignored the campus police and the wishes of the student body and the administration to force guns down the throat of institutions of higher learning.
The useful idiot thinks banning guns on campus will prevent someone from shooting people on campus?I'm gonna reread your little bullshit justifications and shake my head when a Charles Whitman style massacre happens again thanks to you allowing guns on campus. You know the original reason guns were banned on campus was in 1967 to prevent another clock tower massacre, right? It seems like you right wingers love to see people shot.
Not even you can be stupid enough to actually believe this.If guns weren't allowed on campus in the first place, then this whole shitty scenario would be avoided altogether
How 'campus carry' is spurring a Texas brain drain | Arts | Dallas News
Texas recently allowed college students to carry guns on campus. In addition to the spike in crime this has caused (the murder rate on college campuses in Texas has increased by FOUR HUNDRED per cent over the past four MONTHS), many professors and students, fearing for their lives, have found jobs or positions at colleges in other states.
This is another example of right wingers valuing their precious guns over the safety of their fellow citizens, or the quality of education in their state. Texas has become even more of a national laughingstock than it was already, and that's saying something.
