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And you think that is a good enough reason to deny someone their 2nd amendment rights?
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Texas Mall shooter failed Army Infantry training due to mental health problems. Whodathunk?
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And you think that is a good enough reason to deny someone their 2nd amendment rights?
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I go to about five gun shows a year from CA to Texas and no one gets out the door with a gun other than a non tactical shotgun.... background checks are mandatory....And I'm positive that every gun seller adheres to the gun laws they hate...100% right!
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Yes if the cause is mental instability....And you think that is a good enough reason to deny someone their 2nd amendment rights?
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Then you should know mental examinations are not part of entrance exams....
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Yes if the cause is mental instability....
Which is not in his record anywhere.
Seems you have a very low view of the 2nd.
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It was stated this morning that he was discharged for mental reasons... so I'm not sure why you are arguing that point....Which is not in his record anywhere.
Seems you have a very low view of the 2nd.
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Then you should know mental examinations are not part of entrance exams....
Correct, they just complete a form with questions that focus on contact with mental health professionals as well as alcohol use/abuse treatment
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It was stated this morning that he was discharged for mental reasons... so I'm not sure why you are arguing that point....
By whom?
Who stated this?
Is it in his military record?
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Listen... the Army does not discharge you without a reason... and they don't kick you out of boot camp because you are not happy to be there... if he committed a crime he would have been court marshalled... if he were not in shape they would have gotten him in shape... so what I heard this morning makes the most sense....Correct, they just complete a form with questions that focus on contact with mental health professionals as well as alcohol use/abuse treatment
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Listen... the Army does not discharge you without a reason... and they don't kick you out of boot camp because you are not happy to be there... if he committed a crime he would have been court marshalled... if he were not in shape they would have gotten him in shape... so what I heard this morning makes the most sense....
So, you cannot tell me who said it and if it is in his military record.
And you still cannot tell me how the FBI was supposed to find out about it
welcome to xiden’s america.And the FBI allowed him to pass a background check???????
xiden refuses to enforce our gun laws
of course rhe fbi has access to military recordsThe FBI does not have access to every single person's military record that ever served.
And there is nothing in his record that would have stopped him from getting a gun. This discharge he got could have been for hurting his leg and not being able to finish basic training.
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What kind of background check do you get if you are going to join the infantry?
Every applicant for military service must pass a basic background check regardless of intended/elected MOS. The deeper dive background investigations come later, should chosen MOS require it. At least—that's how it was up to a few years ago. My guess, were I asked to make one, would hazard this latest shooter guy believed he was a chick and said belief skull fu**ed his chances to stand on the firing line with the 11B big boys. Isn't that the trend as of late? Mass shooters who disbelieve their own genitals?
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No I was listening to markley van camp and robbins... not sure if it was a news break or one of them said it... but why else would they have discharged him without a trial or an injury report?... think about it....So, you cannot tell me who said it and if it is in his military record.
And you still cannot tell me how the FBI was supposed to find out about it
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When I went in (1966) they didn't have background checks at all unless you were entering a MOS needing a security clearance.What Happens in a Military Background Check
Some positions in the armed forces require an extensive military background check, especially if there is a security clearance. Here's what to expect.www.backgroundchecks.com
My younger son went in with the big post 911 build up (Cav Scout) and I don't think they gave a shit about anybody's background. They just wanted bodies.
Knowing the incompetency of the military I wouldn't be surprised if anybody fell through the cracks.
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Yes me too but the FBI should have found his DOD file and not granted his gun sale if he was found to be unstable and if he indeed purchased his weapons legally....When I went in (1966) they didn't have background checks at all unless you were entering a MOS needing a security clearance.
My younger son went in with the big post 911 build up (Cav Scout) and I don't think they gave a shit about anybody's background. They just wanted bodies.
Knowing the incompetency of the military I wouldn't be surprised if anybody fell through the cracks.
Its the FBI that keeps dropping the ball in these domestic mass shootings... and no one says anything about that fact in DC....
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Just another example of government background checks being absolutely useless.Yes me too but the FBI should have found his DOD file and not granted his gun sale if he was found to be unstable and if he indeed purchased his weapons legally....
Its the FBI that keeps dropping the ball in these domestic mass shootings... and no one says anything about that fact in DC....
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Or utilized by government to get a certain result....Just another example of government background checks being absolutely useless.
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of course rhe fbi has access to military records
Why would they?
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No I was listening to markley van camp and robbins... not sure if it was a news break or one of them said it... but why else would they have discharged him without a trial or an injury report?... think about it....
It happens all the time. If they cannot cut it they wash them out. His discharge is the same one a Marine gets that cannot pass the swimming qual or cannot qualify with the M16 or hurts their leg and cannot finish.
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