Thanksgiving

[Luissa]

Jefferson also felt his faith was between him and God, and the government should have no part it...

 

[Dreamy]

Yep, That's why they felt the need to have Congressional Christian Chaplains.

ya know you really should stop making yourself look like such a fool. Suck it up and admit you are wrong...and got your ass beat in the tread.

Trust me, this argument has not been settled, let alone by USMB loons.

It will never be settled because there will always be propagandists who insist that the founding fathers weren't REALLY Christians, and Thanksgiving isn't REALLY a Christian holiday, and our country wasn't REALLY founded on Christian tenets...despite what the founding fathers said and wrote.

And as long as people keep propagating the lie, historians and those who aren't following some weird anti-Christian agenda will continue to say "you're wrong."

You're wrong.

The internet is both a wealth of information and misinformation.

Those who are more secular or skeptical often reject how pervasive religion was in the time of the founding fathers.

More traditional Christians sometimes are not convinced there was a diversity that existed in the personal beliefs of the founding fathers.

 

[Dreamy]

Jefferson also felt his faith was between him and God, and the government should have no part it...

And he believed all men were capable of sin. Evangelical Baptists were actually supporters of Jefferson who was a religious skeptic versus a non-believer but he was a fighter for religious liberty. He believed the check and balance of powers were needed because of the sins man was capable of in his life when seeking power. Religion was most definitely intertwined through the lives of the founding fathers.

 

[Connery]

Jefferson also felt his faith was between him and God, and the government should have no part it...

His "wall of separation between church and state" caused him to "refrain from prescribing even those occasional performances of devotion," i.e., thanksgivings and fasts, because they were "religious exercises."

 

[Connery]

Yep, That's why they felt the need to have Congressional Christian Chaplains.

ya know you really should stop making yourself look like such a fool. Suck it up and admit you are wrong...and got your ass beat in the tread.

Trust me, this argument has not been settled, let alone by USMB loons.

It will never be settled because there will always be propagandists who insist that the founding fathers weren't REALLY Christians, and Thanksgiving isn't REALLY a Christian holiday, and our country wasn't REALLY founded on Christian tenets...despite what the founding fathers said and wrote.

And as long as people keep propagating the lie, historians and those who aren't following some weird anti-Christian agenda will continue to say "you're wrong."

You're wrong.

As a matter of custom Thanksgiving may be a Christian holiday, as a matter of law it is not.

 

[Dreamy]

ya know you really should stop making yourself look like such a fool. Suck it up and admit you are wrong...and got your ass beat in the tread.

Trust me, this argument has not been settled, let alone by USMB loons.

It will never be settled because there will always be propagandists who insist that the founding fathers weren't REALLY Christians, and Thanksgiving isn't REALLY a Christian holiday, and our country wasn't REALLY founded on Christian tenets...despite what the founding fathers said and wrote.

And as long as people keep propagating the lie, historians and those who aren't following some weird anti-Christian agenda will continue to say "you're wrong."

You're wrong.

As a matter of custom Thanksgiving may be a Christian holiday, as a matter of law it is not.

Pretty much a good wrap of this thread.

 

[koshergrl]

Jefferson also felt his faith was between him and God, and the government should have no part it...

And he believed all men were capable of sin. Evangelical Baptists were actually supporters of Jefferson who was a religious skeptic versus a non-believer but he was a fighter for religious liberty. He believed the check and balance of powers were needed because of the sins man was capable of in his life when seeking power. Religion was most definitely intertwined through the lives of the founding fathers.

Jefferson entertained the thought of establishing a state religion, and the Danbury Baptists chimed in via correspondence which gives us the term "separation of church and state". They, and ultimately he, recognized that the only way to protect freedom of religion was to prevent government from having any power over it at all.

 

[Dreamy]

Jefferson also felt his faith was between him and God, and the government should have no part it...

And he believed all men were capable of sin. Evangelical Baptists were actually supporters of Jefferson who was a religious skeptic versus a non-believer but he was a fighter for religious liberty. He believed the check and balance of powers were needed because of the sins man was capable of in his life when seeking power. Religion was most definitely intertwined through the lives of the founding fathers.

Jefferson entertained the thought of establishing a state religion, and the Danbury Baptists chimed in via correspondence which gives us the term "separation of church and state".

He beat out Adams in the 1800 Presidential election because of their support.

 

[Connery]

Trust me, this argument has not been settled, let alone by USMB loons.

It will never be settled because there will always be propagandists who insist that the founding fathers weren't REALLY Christians, and Thanksgiving isn't REALLY a Christian holiday, and our country wasn't REALLY founded on Christian tenets...despite what the founding fathers said and wrote.

And as long as people keep propagating the lie, historians and those who aren't following some weird anti-Christian agenda will continue to say "you're wrong."

You're wrong.

As a matter of custom Thanksgiving may be a Christian holiday, as a matter of law it is not.

Pretty much a good wrap of this thread.

Thank you.....

 

[Dreamy]

As a matter of custom Thanksgiving may be a Christian holiday, as a matter of law it is not.

Pretty much a good wrap of this thread.

Thank you.....

You are welcome and so glad you are a part of the technicolor world of various shades versus the crisp black and white one that so many live in.

 

[syrenn]

ya know you really should stop making yourself look like such a fool. Suck it up and admit you are wrong...and got your ass beat in the tread.

Trust me, this argument has not been settled, let alone by USMB loons.

It will never be settled because there will always be propagandists who insist that the founding fathers weren't REALLY Christians, and Thanksgiving isn't REALLY a Christian holiday, and our country wasn't REALLY founded on Christian tenets...despite what the founding fathers said and wrote.

And as long as people keep propagating the lie, historians and those who aren't following some weird anti-Christian agenda will continue to say "you're wrong."

You're wrong.

As a matter of custom Thanksgiving may be a Christian holiday, as a matter of law it is not.

which is what ive been saying.... it is an American holiday.

do what ever the hell you want and celebrate it however you want..... but it is NOT a "christian" holiday.

 

[Uncensored2008]

which is what ive been saying.... it is an American holiday.

do what ever the hell you want and celebrate it however you want..... but it is NOT a "christian" holiday.

It's an American holiday based on and rooted in Christian tradition.

 

[rightwinger]

ya know you really should stop making yourself look like such a fool. Suck it up and admit you are wrong...and got your ass beat in the tread.

Trust me, this argument has not been settled, let alone by USMB loons.

It will never be settled because there will always be propagandists who insist that the founding fathers weren't REALLY Christians, and Thanksgiving isn't REALLY a Christian holiday, and our country wasn't REALLY founded on Christian tenets...despite what the founding fathers said and wrote.

And as long as people keep propagating the lie, historians and those who aren't following some weird anti-Christian agenda will continue to say "you're wrong."

You're wrong.

As a matter of custom Thanksgiving may be a Christian holiday, as a matter of law it is not.

Jesus never celebrated Thanksgiving

But he did enjoy a nice turkey dinner with stuffing and gravy

 

[syrenn]

which is what ive been saying.... it is an American holiday.

do what ever the hell you want and celebrate it however you want..... but it is NOT a "christian" holiday.

It's an American holiday based on and rooted in Christian tradition.

so...its NOT a "christian" holiday. Simple as that.

It is actually a holiday rooted in every culture on earth... christian or not. Harvest festivals have been around longer then the christians.

 

[koshergrl]

*yawn*.

 

[koshergrl]

What other countries celebrate thanksgiving, btw?

 

[Uncensored2008]

so...its NOT a "christian" holiday. Simple as that.

It is actually a holiday rooted in every culture on earth... christian or not. Harvest festivals have been around longer then the christians.

If by "every culture on earth" you mean Puritan Christian culture, then yes.

look, I'm agnostic, but it does me no harm to acknowledge the fact that Thanksgiving, like Christmas and Easter, is based on Christian tradition.

 

[Luddly Neddite]

OK atheist put your money where your belief is. on thanksgiving day do not take off that Christian holiday with pay. After all Thanksgiving is giving thanks that thing you ridicule christian's about.

Doesn't matter how it started, now its just an excuse to stuff your face and sit on your butt in front of the TV.

 

[Luddly Neddite]

What other countries celebrate thanksgiving, btw?

Hmmm, good question.

What other countries stole land from the original owners, killed them off, forced the onto small bits of arid and dead land and now celebrate it by gorging on garbage they bought at Wal(keep China green)Mart ... ?

 

[Uncensored2008]

Doesn't matter how it started, now its just an excuse to stuff your face and sit on your butt in front of the TV.

It's an excuse to get together with family and friends and enjoy a meal.