That Cohen Prague Trip?

[Lesh]

If had a 2nd passport, it would have leaked. Mueller hasn't managed to keep anything secret.

Yea and Flynn was set up by the FBI .

Newsflash. Mueller doesn't leak

 

[dannyboys]

You sure are saying something about Mueller, dumbass. When you claim he doesn't know if Cohen has a second passport, that means you believe he never checked.

Hey dumbfuk...point to where I claimed I know what Mueller knows.

You don't know. I don;t know. I DO however know he COULD have had a second passport. It's completely legal to do so.

You are incredibly stupid or completely dishonest.

I actually think you're stupidly dishonest.

NO American can have two valid American passports.
Not possible.
Any American can have dual citizenship and have a valid passport issued by another country.
I do.
It's surprising how fucking uneducated some members on this forum are.

 

[deanrd]

Someone better cough up a passport to prove it.

About ten years ago I was alleged to having been a witness to a business deal in London. Except I have not only never been to London, I don't even have a passport. Nevertheless, my accusers said they had hotel records and copies of credit card receipts.

I put this in the same category.

So your accusers were the FBI?

 

[Lesh]

You sure are saying something about Mueller, dumbass. When you claim he doesn't know if Cohen has a second passport, that means you believe he never checked.

Hey dumbfuk...point to where I claimed I know what Mueller knows.

You don't know. I don;t know. I DO however know he COULD have had a second passport. It's completely legal to do so.

You are incredibly stupid or completely dishonest.

I actually think you're stupidly dishonest.

NO American can have two valid American passports.
Not possible.
Any American can have dual citizenship and have a valid passport issued by another country.
I do.
It's surprising how fucking uneducated some members on this forum are.

You're an idiot. That's absolutely untrue. Do I need to embarrass you with actual facts?

Do you REQUIRE that smack down?

Never mind. I'll do it anyway

Yes, You Can (and Should) Have Two U.S. Passports

You can apologize for your stupidity now

 

[Lesh]

No apology?

 

[Lesh]

You'll be hearing more about this

 

[Synthaholic]

Yeah of course. All really competent "covert ops" people take their "burner phones" home with them and keep them in a desk as souvenirs....

Who claimed that Michael Cohen was competent? Not me.

 

[Dale Smith]

What leftards believe: The ROOSKIES conspired with the Trump team to hack the DNC server because they already KNEW in advance that the DNC and Hildebeast team were conspiring to steal the election using their cohorts within the lamestream media much like they stole the nomination from Bernie Sanders. "Bull dogging" by paying mental midgets to try and provoke confrontations at Trump rallies where the lamestream media would spin them to make it seem that the provokers were "Trump supporters". The strategic plan of a "ground game of busing "voters" from one polling place to another. This type of exposure of corruption and criminality was considered "cheating" by the leftards that were utterly taken aback and aghast at the mere prospect that their tactics could be exposed and thus sway public opinion.

What REALLY happened: Seth Rich, an idealistic DNC insider was disgusted at what he witnessed and downloaded e-mails to a thumb drive that made it's way to Julian Assange at the Ecuador embassy in London, England which made him leftard public enemy # 1 and enraged the Hildebeast to the point that she wanted a drone strike on the embassy.

Synthaholic= Butthurt snowflake that can't accept defeat......sucks for him.

 

[Lesh]

Bullshit, They hacked LOOKING for anything. And what they found was "embarrassing". In truth if anyone had their e-mails hacked and selectively released to the public...it would be embarrassing

And Cohen supposedly never went to Prague to talk to Russian agents and yet his cell phone was pinging off towers just out side Prague

 

[g5000]

If had a 2nd passport, it would have leaked. Mueller hasn't managed to keep anything secret.

How do you know, dipshit?

Wishful thinking.

 

[bripat9643]

If had a 2nd passport, it would have leaked. Mueller hasn't managed to keep anything secret.

How do you know, dipshit?

Wishful thinking.

We know it because the Mueller gang of thugs has leaked every significant fact of the investigation.

 

[g5000]

If had a 2nd passport, it would have leaked. Mueller hasn't managed to keep anything secret.

How do you know, dipshit?

Wishful thinking.

We know it because the Mueller gang of thugs has leaked every significant fact of the investigation.

Is that the piss you've been drinking?

Did you know that every "leak" has been a court filing required by law, and which is publicly accessible by law?

Can you get any dumber, retard?

The only "leaks" you ever hear about are after the fact.

 

[Lesh]

If had a 2nd passport, it would have leaked. Mueller hasn't managed to keep anything secret.

How do you know, dipshit?

Wishful thinking.

We know it because the Mueller gang of thugs has leaked every significant fact of the investigation.

Mueller has leaked virtually nothing. What we know about the investigation comes from court filings and what interviewees have said he asked them

 

[Faun]

You realize don't you that every one of those people could tell schiff to go fuck himself and there is nothing he could do about it?

lol... really? is that right?

they can go after anybody that refuses a subpoena to appear. a charge of contempt can easily be issued & a fine plus jail time can be dropped on them. AND, lying b4 congress is just as bad as lying b4 a judge.

https://fas.org/sgp/crs/misc/RL34097.pdf

When was the last time Congress did that?

oh for fuck's sake... you don't think they'll do it? & legitimately too?

c'mon now....

Based on the last time Congress prosecuted anyone for contempt or perjury, it's not going to happen.

OMG you people are giving me a headache.

Congress has ZERO power to prosecute anyone for anything. Now they can of course impeach any federal official, but they can't criminally prosecute anyone.

Trump could walk into Congress on January 3 and murder both Pelosi and Schumer and then pardon himself and Congress could impeach him, but that's it.

And when it comes to a private citizen they have even less power. Adam Schiff can not punish a private citizen for refusing to obey a subpoena or for lying to him, or anything else. Congress has no such authority. They would have to go the Justice Department and request that charges be brought.

”Trump could walk into Congress on January 3 and murder both Pelosi and Schumer and then pardon himself and Congress could impeach him, but that's it.”

That’s not so clear cut as there are many untested questions. That includes can a president pardon themselves of crimes they commit; can a president pardon someone not yet convicted of a crime; and even who has pardon powers over crimes committed in D.C., the president or the mayor of D.C.

 

[DandyDonovan]

lol... really? is that right?

they can go after anybody that refuses a subpoena to appear. a charge of contempt can easily be issued & a fine plus jail time can be dropped on them. AND, lying b4 congress is just as bad as lying b4 a judge.

https://fas.org/sgp/crs/misc/RL34097.pdf

When was the last time Congress did that?

oh for fuck's sake... you don't think they'll do it? & legitimately too?

c'mon now....

Based on the last time Congress prosecuted anyone for contempt or perjury, it's not going to happen.

OMG you people are giving me a headache.

Congress has ZERO power to prosecute anyone for anything. Now they can of course impeach any federal official, but they can't criminally prosecute anyone.

Trump could walk into Congress on January 3 and murder both Pelosi and Schumer and then pardon himself and Congress could impeach him, but that's it.

And when it comes to a private citizen they have even less power. Adam Schiff can not punish a private citizen for refusing to obey a subpoena or for lying to him, or anything else. Congress has no such authority. They would have to go the Justice Department and request that charges be brought.

”Trump could walk into Congress on January 3 and murder both Pelosi and Schumer and then pardon himself and Congress could impeach him, but that's it.”

That’s not so clear cut as there are many untested questions. That includes can a president pardon themselves of crimes they commit; can a president pardon someone not yet convicted of a crime; and even who has pardon powers over crimes committed in D.C., the president or the mayor of D.C.

None of those things are in question

A) A President's pardoning powers are unlimited in that he can pardon ANYONE of a ANY federal crime, including himself

B) Ford pardoned Nixon who hadn't been convicted of anything, hand't even been charged with anything. Other President's have also pardoned folks who were never convicted of a crime, but that's the most obvious example.

C) The Congressional building is FEDERAL property and thus the District of Columbia has zero jurisdiction.

Your post is a classic example of what I was talking about in another thread you completely ignore facts in favor of your emotions.

 

[Faun]

When was the last time Congress did that?

oh for fuck's sake... you don't think they'll do it? & legitimately too?

c'mon now....

Based on the last time Congress prosecuted anyone for contempt or perjury, it's not going to happen.

OMG you people are giving me a headache.

Congress has ZERO power to prosecute anyone for anything. Now they can of course impeach any federal official, but they can't criminally prosecute anyone.

Trump could walk into Congress on January 3 and murder both Pelosi and Schumer and then pardon himself and Congress could impeach him, but that's it.

And when it comes to a private citizen they have even less power. Adam Schiff can not punish a private citizen for refusing to obey a subpoena or for lying to him, or anything else. Congress has no such authority. They would have to go the Justice Department and request that charges be brought.

”Trump could walk into Congress on January 3 and murder both Pelosi and Schumer and then pardon himself and Congress could impeach him, but that's it.”

That’s not so clear cut as there are many untested questions. That includes can a president pardon themselves of crimes they commit; can a president pardon someone not yet convicted of a crime; and even who has pardon powers over crimes committed in D.C., the president or the mayor of D.C.

None of those things are in question

A) A President's pardoning powers are unlimited in that he can pardon ANYONE of a ANY federal crime, including himself

B) Ford pardoned Nixon who hadn't been convicted of anything, hand't even been charged with anything. Other President's have also pardoned folks who were never convicted of a crime, but that's the most obvious example.

C) The Congressional building is FEDERAL property and thus the District of Columbia has zero jurisdiction.

Your post is a classic example of what I was talking about in another thread you completely ignore facts in favor of your emotions.

None of which had ever been tested. On top of which, there’s also the question of whether or not such a pardon would hold up being a case involving impeachment.

 

[Lesh]

A) A President's pardoning powers are unlimited in that he can pardon ANYONE of a ANY federal crime, including himself

It's highly debatable. If a pardon is granted and is found to be obstruction of Justice....fail

 

[DandyDonovan]

oh for fuck's sake... you don't think they'll do it? & legitimately too?

c'mon now....

Based on the last time Congress prosecuted anyone for contempt or perjury, it's not going to happen.

OMG you people are giving me a headache.

Congress has ZERO power to prosecute anyone for anything. Now they can of course impeach any federal official, but they can't criminally prosecute anyone.

Trump could walk into Congress on January 3 and murder both Pelosi and Schumer and then pardon himself and Congress could impeach him, but that's it.

And when it comes to a private citizen they have even less power. Adam Schiff can not punish a private citizen for refusing to obey a subpoena or for lying to him, or anything else. Congress has no such authority. They would have to go the Justice Department and request that charges be brought.

”Trump could walk into Congress on January 3 and murder both Pelosi and Schumer and then pardon himself and Congress could impeach him, but that's it.”

That’s not so clear cut as there are many untested questions. That includes can a president pardon themselves of crimes they commit; can a president pardon someone not yet convicted of a crime; and even who has pardon powers over crimes committed in D.C., the president or the mayor of D.C.

None of those things are in question

A) A President's pardoning powers are unlimited in that he can pardon ANYONE of a ANY federal crime, including himself

B) Ford pardoned Nixon who hadn't been convicted of anything, hand't even been charged with anything. Other President's have also pardoned folks who were never convicted of a crime, but that's the most obvious example.

C) The Congressional building is FEDERAL property and thus the District of Columbia has zero jurisdiction.

Your post is a classic example of what I was talking about in another thread you completely ignore facts in favor of your emotions.

None of which had ever been tested. On top of which, there’s also the question of whether or not such a pardon would hold up being a case involving impeachment.

What are you talking about? I gave you a very clear example of a President pardoning someone who had not even been charged with a crime. Beyond that , it is generally accepted by well everyone except partisan morons that a President COULD pardon himself.

As for impeachment, again this is just you not understanding the subject you are trying to give an opinion on, pardoning powers cover criminal proceedings ONLY, an impeaching is not a criminal proceeding and thus pardons don't play any part in that situation.

 

[DandyDonovan]

A) A President's pardoning powers are unlimited in that he can pardon ANYONE of a ANY federal crime, including himself

It's highly debatable. If a pardon is granted and is found to be obstruction of Justice....fail

A pardon can never be an obstruction of justice because the President's power to pardon is unquestioned and unlimited. Our justice system itself allows for pardons. Otherwise wouldn't any pardon that kept a criminal from serving time for a crime be an obstruction of justice? Why yes, yes it would be.

Why have you people let one man turn you into people who don't value honesty at all?

 

[Faun]

Based on the last time Congress prosecuted anyone for contempt or perjury, it's not going to happen.

OMG you people are giving me a headache.

Congress has ZERO power to prosecute anyone for anything. Now they can of course impeach any federal official, but they can't criminally prosecute anyone.

Trump could walk into Congress on January 3 and murder both Pelosi and Schumer and then pardon himself and Congress could impeach him, but that's it.

And when it comes to a private citizen they have even less power. Adam Schiff can not punish a private citizen for refusing to obey a subpoena or for lying to him, or anything else. Congress has no such authority. They would have to go the Justice Department and request that charges be brought.

”Trump could walk into Congress on January 3 and murder both Pelosi and Schumer and then pardon himself and Congress could impeach him, but that's it.”

That’s not so clear cut as there are many untested questions. That includes can a president pardon themselves of crimes they commit; can a president pardon someone not yet convicted of a crime; and even who has pardon powers over crimes committed in D.C., the president or the mayor of D.C.

None of those things are in question

A) A President's pardoning powers are unlimited in that he can pardon ANYONE of a ANY federal crime, including himself

B) Ford pardoned Nixon who hadn't been convicted of anything, hand't even been charged with anything. Other President's have also pardoned folks who were never convicted of a crime, but that's the most obvious example.

C) The Congressional building is FEDERAL property and thus the District of Columbia has zero jurisdiction.

Your post is a classic example of what I was talking about in another thread you completely ignore facts in favor of your emotions.

None of which had ever been tested. On top of which, there’s also the question of whether or not such a pardon would hold up being a case involving impeachment.

What are you talking about? I gave you a very clear example of a President pardoning someone who had not even been charged with a crime. Beyond that , it is generally accepted by well everyone except partisan morons that a President COULD pardon himself.

As for impeachment, again this is just you not understanding the subject you are trying to give an opinion on, pardoning powers cover criminal proceedings ONLY, an impeaching is not a criminal proceeding and thus pardons don't play any part in that situation.

Nixon’s pardon was never tested. No one challenged it. The definition of a pardon is forgiving someone of a crime for which they’ve been convicted. You can be sure if Trump shot anyone in Congress and then tried to pardon himself, these issues would certainly be challenged.