That shining "god" Obama couldn't even with nearly a $1 trillion in shovel ready jobs do this!

[Harpy Eagle]

This never happened under Obama... NEVER!
There now are more job openings in the U.S. than unemployed workers to fill them
There are more job openings in the U.S. than unemployed workers to fill them.
It’s the first time that has happened since the government began tracking job openings in 2000.
There were a record 6.7 million job openings in April, the Labor Department reported Tuesday. That was an increase from an upwardly revised 6.63 million in March.
The revised data show that job openings outstripped total unemployed workers in March for the first time, and the trend continued in April.
There now are more job openings in the U.S. than unemployed workers to fill them

But this is not what you claimed, you claimed that things "turned around", so if this is the case then you should be able to provide at least one economic indicator that turned around after the election.

As has been shown in this thread, unemployment did not, it has been heading steadily down for the past 6 years.

And you are correct, that Obama never had more jobs that people, but Trump did not start his term with in the middle of a recession with an 8% unemployment rate. So I could say that Trump has never cut the UE rate in half, so he is worse than Obama...would that make much sense?

So, I will ask you again, can you provide just one economic indicator that turned around after the election.

Easy! Look at this chart!
Number of part-time employees in the U.S. 1990-2017 | Timeline

As this chart shows Obama's economy INCREASED part-time workers because of several reasons one was Obamacare.
But look every year of Obama's presidency Part time employees Increased.
It wasn't till Trump the number has declined and will continue to decline as more and more employers are finding it hard to find employees.
A problem they didn't have during Obama's terms.
View attachment 203165

According to that chart part-time workers evened out in 2012 and has stayed about the same since. 2017 is no lower than 2015. No turn around there.

This never happened under Obama... NEVER!
There now are more job openings in the U.S. than unemployed workers to fill them
There are more job openings in the U.S. than unemployed workers to fill them.
It’s the first time that has happened since the government began tracking job openings in 2000.
There were a record 6.7 million job openings in April, the Labor Department reported Tuesday. That was an increase from an upwardly revised 6.63 million in March.
The revised data show that job openings outstripped total unemployed workers in March for the first time, and the trend continued in April.
There now are more job openings in the U.S. than unemployed workers to fill them

But this is not what you claimed, you claimed that things "turned around", so if this is the case then you should be able to provide at least one economic indicator that turned around after the election.

As has been shown in this thread, unemployment did not, it has been heading steadily down for the past 6 years.

And you are correct, that Obama never had more jobs that people, but Trump did not start his term with in the middle of a recession with an 8% unemployment rate. So I could say that Trump has never cut the UE rate in half, so he is worse than Obama...would that make much sense?

So, I will ask you again, can you provide just one economic indicator that turned around after the election.

Easy! Look at this chart!
Number of part-time employees in the U.S. 1990-2017 | Timeline

As this chart shows Obama's economy INCREASED part-time workers because of several reasons one was Obamacare.
But look every year of Obama's presidency Part time employees Increased.
It wasn't till Trump the number has declined and will continue to decline as more and more employers are finding it hard to find employees.
A problem they didn't have during Obama's terms.
View attachment 203165

According to that chart part-time workers evened out in 2012 and has stayed about the same since. 2017 is no lower than 2015. No turn around there.

But it never WENT down consistently. It went up dramatically and 2017 was a decline from 2016. That is a turn around. 7 years of constant growth of part time workers.

We do not know if it is down consistently under Trump or not. Time will tell if you are correct.

 

[healthmyths]

Ok, I'm a truck driver. Truck drivers are not in low supply. If you think they are, go to any truck stop at 10pm. You'll see trucks parked in there like ants, parked out onto the shoulders of the interstates in both directions.

What's in low supply is willingness of drivers to take low paying jobs. Take a look at the interstates, notice every 3rd vehicle is a big rig. There are plenty of us out here. What people want is CHEAP shipping costs. Supply and demand. If supply is kept down, like it is now, prices are kept up. People hate paying shipping costs. What they don't realize is how many hundreds of thousands of us out here risk our lives every day so you can have your crap that you order, eat or buy. What job pays as little as driving a truck and is subject to so much scrutiny and gov't regulation and risk to human life?

So no, truck drivers are not in low supply. Cheap ass people that don't want to pay to get their crap shipped are in HIGH supply.

Well maybe you aren't in the top 10% of truckers as this article points out... this driver makes about $75,000 a year and that was in 2014!

True Story: I'm a Long Haul Trucker -

 

[Billy000]

Obama economy was powered by unemployment checks and food stamps, all funded by record debt

Technically that’s true because this greatly increased consumer spending which created 2 million jobs lol. The stimulus was a success - it reversed a recession and we have had job growth ever since.

 

[Billy000]

A report Thursday from ADP and Moody’s Analytics cast an even brighter light on what is becoming one of the most important economic stories of 2018:
the difficulty employers are having in finding qualified employees to fill a record 6.7 million job openings.

• Truck drivers are in perilously low supply,
• Silicon Valley continues to struggle to fill vacancies, and
• employers across the grid are coping with a skills mismatch

as the economy edges ever closer to full employment.

“Business’ number one problem is finding qualified workers. At the current pace of job growth, if sustained, this problem is set to get much worse,” Mark Zandi, chief economist at Moody’s Analytics, said in a statement. “These labor shortages will only intensify across all industries and company sizes.”
The U.S. labor shortage is reaching a critical point

Now WHY does a Trump presidency provide a business environment where THERE ARE MORE JOBS available than people to fill them?
Maybe because during our "deified God" presidency and I'm not making that up...read what a hardened
"professional journalist said about Obama...
Evan Thomas, Editor of NewsWeek...
"I mean in a way Obama's standing above the country, above above the world, he's sort of God."
Newsweek’s Evan Thomas: Obama Is ‘Sort of God’

Despite the miserable results from the $48 billion spent on infrastructure in the $787 billion American Reinvestment and Recovery Act, President Obama’s recently-proposed American Jobs Act includes $50 billion for new infrastructure projects to be funded through the creation of a government-run infrastructure bank
The Shovel-Ready Jobs Swindle

And it was so evident that EVEN OBAMA said there never were "shovel ready jobs"!
"Remember ‘shovel-ready projects.' Those were construction projects in the 2009 stimulus bill that were supposed to get moving right away ... ‘Shovel-ready was not as shovel-ready as we expected,' Obama said." (David Jackson, "Obama Jokes About 'Shovel-Ready Projects'," USA Today, 6/13/11)
Mitt Romney: Press Release - President Obama's Not-So-Shovel-Ready Jobs

MAYBE JUST MAYBE Trump would NEVER be so anti-business, anti-profit, anti-capitalist as this list of Obama
quotes show. NONE of which Trump WOULD ever ever say!View attachment 203053

The stimulus package was a great success. It reversed the recession and created or saved 2 million jobs because of its boost to consumer spending.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Obama got us out of a recession. Trump is riding his wave .

Facts say otherwise.

Which facts?

Please list all the economic indicators that have shown a turn around since the Trump election.

Are you really going to try to pretend the economy is not strong? Even LIBERALS are admitting this economy is booming.

The Economy Is Looking Awfully Strong

FOMC Minutes Show Hawkish Fed Eying "Very Strong Economy"; Fears Tariffs, Yield Curve

U.S. GDP could top 4% in 2nd quarter, economists say

FOMC Minutes: Gold Prices Holding Steady As The Fed Sees Signs Of A Very Strong Economy

The US economy is strong, and it's about to get even stronger, Atlanta Fed model shows

The 6 Signs Of An Economic Recovery

And the one that stings the most for liberals:

Economists agree: Trump, not Obama, gets credit for economy

I agree the economy is strong, but nothing changed under Trump, all of the economic indicators are trending the same way as they were prior to the election.

That is why you Trump ass sniffers cannot provide a single economic indicator that has "turned around" under Trump.

Oh, and this from your last link I agree with 100%....suggested Mr. Trump’s election deserves at least some credit” for the upturn.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

There is NO reason to believe the jobs numbers won't be just as good as in recent months. This economy is pedal to the metal.

It was, but the trade war will put an end to that if Trump does not stop fucking things up.

 

[basquebromance]

celebrating Obama's 100-day mark, New York Times reporter Jennifer Lee exulted that the financially troubled Fishwrap of Record had sold 2 million dollars worth of Obama-themed merchandise. The Times had a vested financial interest in propping up the Obama administration...

 

[basquebromance]

what's the difference between Obama and Jesus?

Jesus could actually build a non-corrupt cabinet!

 

[gipper]

A report Thursday from ADP and Moody’s Analytics cast an even brighter light on what is becoming one of the most important economic stories of 2018:
the difficulty employers are having in finding qualified employees to fill a record 6.7 million job openings.

• Truck drivers are in perilously low supply,
• Silicon Valley continues to struggle to fill vacancies, and
• employers across the grid are coping with a skills mismatch

as the economy edges ever closer to full employment.

“Business’ number one problem is finding qualified workers. At the current pace of job growth, if sustained, this problem is set to get much worse,” Mark Zandi, chief economist at Moody’s Analytics, said in a statement. “These labor shortages will only intensify across all industries and company sizes.”
The U.S. labor shortage is reaching a critical point

Now WHY does a Trump presidency provide a business environment where THERE ARE MORE JOBS available than people to fill them?
Maybe because during our "deified God" presidency and I'm not making that up...read what a hardened
"professional journalist said about Obama...
Evan Thomas, Editor of NewsWeek...
"I mean in a way Obama's standing above the country, above above the world, he's sort of God."
Newsweek’s Evan Thomas: Obama Is ‘Sort of God’

Despite the miserable results from the $48 billion spent on infrastructure in the $787 billion American Reinvestment and Recovery Act, President Obama’s recently-proposed American Jobs Act includes $50 billion for new infrastructure projects to be funded through the creation of a government-run infrastructure bank
The Shovel-Ready Jobs Swindle

And it was so evident that EVEN OBAMA said there never were "shovel ready jobs"!
"Remember ‘shovel-ready projects.' Those were construction projects in the 2009 stimulus bill that were supposed to get moving right away ... ‘Shovel-ready was not as shovel-ready as we expected,' Obama said." (David Jackson, "Obama Jokes About 'Shovel-Ready Projects'," USA Today, 6/13/11)
Mitt Romney: Press Release - President Obama's Not-So-Shovel-Ready Jobs

MAYBE JUST MAYBE Trump would NEVER be so anti-business, anti-profit, anti-capitalist as this list of Obama
quotes show. NONE of which Trump WOULD ever ever say!View attachment 203053

Obama took over an economy that was at its worst point since before WW2.

Trump took over an economy that was doing really, really well.

There's a big difference.

It's like comparing a soccer goalkeeper with a striker and saying the goalkeeper is not nearly as good as the striker because he hasn't scored many goals.

The issue is what to do with the economy you inherit. BO imposed massive regulations which hampered economic growth. Trump has lessened the regulatory state, hence greater economic growth.

 

[CowboyTed]

Obama got us out of a recession. Trump is riding his wave .

It is worse than that... Trump is borrowing money at recession levels during a boom...

The OP here is being dishonest... Obama inherited the worse economic conditions since 1930s, his job was to avoid a depression.

Trump inherited an economy almost at full employment with deficit levels well under control... What did he do with it, borrow money and spend more...

His trade war is also going to hit that too(the one that is easy to win, so was Iraq)..

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Obama got us out of a recession. Trump is riding his wave .

Facts say otherwise.

Which facts?

Please list all the economic indicators that have shown a turn around since the Trump election.

Female employment level higher than at any point of time since 1953. Black unemployment at levels never seen before. The same for Hispanic employment. Actual GDP is increasing at a level that your hero, the obummer, and his sycophant economists claimed was impossible to ever see again.

Next.

Female employment was rising prior to the election, thus no turn around just a continuation.

Black unemployment was falling prior to the election, thus no turn around just a continuation..

Hispanic employment was rising prior to the election, thus no turn around just a continuation.

GDP growth has been in the low 3 or below, nothing new there either.

Next...find something that has "turned around" since the election, something that is now moving in a different direction.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

A report Thursday from ADP and Moody’s Analytics cast an even brighter light on what is becoming one of the most important economic stories of 2018:
the difficulty employers are having in finding qualified employees to fill a record 6.7 million job openings.

• Truck drivers are in perilously low supply,
• Silicon Valley continues to struggle to fill vacancies, and
• employers across the grid are coping with a skills mismatch

as the economy edges ever closer to full employment.

“Business’ number one problem is finding qualified workers. At the current pace of job growth, if sustained, this problem is set to get much worse,” Mark Zandi, chief economist at Moody’s Analytics, said in a statement. “These labor shortages will only intensify across all industries and company sizes.”
The U.S. labor shortage is reaching a critical point

Now WHY does a Trump presidency provide a business environment where THERE ARE MORE JOBS available than people to fill them?
Maybe because during our "deified God" presidency and I'm not making that up...read what a hardened
"professional journalist said about Obama...
Evan Thomas, Editor of NewsWeek...
"I mean in a way Obama's standing above the country, above above the world, he's sort of God."
Newsweek’s Evan Thomas: Obama Is ‘Sort of God’

Despite the miserable results from the $48 billion spent on infrastructure in the $787 billion American Reinvestment and Recovery Act, President Obama’s recently-proposed American Jobs Act includes $50 billion for new infrastructure projects to be funded through the creation of a government-run infrastructure bank
The Shovel-Ready Jobs Swindle

And it was so evident that EVEN OBAMA said there never were "shovel ready jobs"!
"Remember ‘shovel-ready projects.' Those were construction projects in the 2009 stimulus bill that were supposed to get moving right away ... ‘Shovel-ready was not as shovel-ready as we expected,' Obama said." (David Jackson, "Obama Jokes About 'Shovel-Ready Projects'," USA Today, 6/13/11)
Mitt Romney: Press Release - President Obama's Not-So-Shovel-Ready Jobs

MAYBE JUST MAYBE Trump would NEVER be so anti-business, anti-profit, anti-capitalist as this list of Obama
quotes show. NONE of which Trump WOULD ever ever say!View attachment 203053

Obama took over an economy that was at its worst point since before WW2.

Trump took over an economy that was doing really, really well.

There's a big difference.

It's like comparing a soccer goalkeeper with a striker and saying the goalkeeper is not nearly as good as the striker because he hasn't scored many goals.

The issue is what to do with the economy you inherit. BO imposed massive regulations which hampered economic growth. Trump has lessened the regulatory state, hence greater economic growth.

There is no "greater economic growth" going on.

 

[sparky]

Anecdotally, I was on a large 'Shovel ready' job for a year after the crash

~S~

 

[basquebromance]

you never get a 2nd chance to make a good first post-inaugural impression. less than 3 weeks into his 1st 100 days, Obama left indelible marks on his presidency: the marks of incompetence and hubris.

despite his administration's much-touted wealth of sharp minds, the transition was an abject disaster.

in what was supposedly the best and brightest administration in history, the myth of no drama obama quickly gave way to constant trauma obama.

 

[AntonToo]

...i just did!

Making Work Pay tax credit - Wikipedia

In years 2009 and 2010 Making Work Pay provided $400 annual credit for individuals or $800 for married taxpayers...making between $8,100 per year and $190,000 per year.

That's just ONE of many parts of Stimulus.

Peanuts in comparison.

Millions of Americans lost their homes. Millions more lost much of their wealth from the stock market crash. This was the consequence of criminal behavior on the part of big banks. yet obama bailed them out and prosecuted no one.

Sorry but TARP was a GWB action and was totally paid back under Obama who counted it as revenue (including the profits!) and Obama still ran up the worst deficits than the 5 preceding Presidents!
View attachment 203080

Means nothing. My statement still stands. Obama did nothing to help hurting Americans, but he sure helped big corporations

No dummy, it means EVERYTHING, because it makes your insinuation that banks somehow profited off of TARP a completely false statement.

I showed you DIRECT STIMULUS TRANSFERS to people's pockets in the form of tax credits and STILL you post stupid fucking nonsense claims that "Obama did nothing to help Americans".

You look like a moron when you deny simple facts.

You didn't though show the results of
Did the stimulus work? A review of the nine best studies on the subject
Nine studies of the DIRECT STIMULUS TRANSFERS
Out of the $787 billion stimulus bill, about $250 billion went in direct aid to state and local governments to prevent them from hurting the economy by cutting spending. Of that, $88 billion went to shore up Medicaid, and of that, $61.2 billion had been spent by the end of June 2010
Did the stimulus work? A review of the nine best studies on the subject

Now we all can get lost in the words on these 9 very complex studies i.e. "endogeneity" issues, "spillovers"...all sorts of very minute but not simple to comprehend.
But to say as Antontoo said" I showed you Direct Stimulus transfers to people's pocket...hmmm that is very spurious at the minimum and broadly hyperbolic at the most!
Especially when 3 studies said it worked..using econometric techniques.. 3 studies worked if you modeled the study, 1 study worked a little and 2 that said it didn't work.
So for Antontoo to make the broad statement it was a positive effort... hmmm...
$787 billion divided by 150 million households would have been $5,246 extra dollars per household or $5,621 if the 10 million "millionaire" households didn't get...after all they are the filthy rich and why should they get it... a lot simpler method of distribution wouldn't you say?

Hey stupid, here is a tip:

Of the nine studies I’ve found, six find that the stimulus had a significant, positive effect on employment and growth, and three find that the effect was either quite small or impossible to detect.

That means ZERO studies actually found that Stimulus didn't help.


Second tip: take your retard math and shove it up your ass, no one ever claimed that the entirety of stimulus was a direct transfer. It did many things - pave roads nad other infrastructure renewal, provide education and tech grants, bail and support American auto industry and yes part of it were direct transfers that ammounted to $800 per single filer, $1600 for joint.

 

[Rustic]

Obama economy was powered by unemployment checks and food stamps, all funded by record debt

...and mostly starter/service jobs

 

[Pilot1]

Obama bragged all about the "shovel ready" jobs he had lined up to put Americans to work.

8 years later when Obama left the White House.

Those shovels were still hanging in the tool shed, new and unused. ...

And when asked about them, Obama chuckled, and said, well maybe they weren't so shovel ready. Yeah, really funny to the unemployed pal. Moron.

 

[gipper]

A report Thursday from ADP and Moody’s Analytics cast an even brighter light on what is becoming one of the most important economic stories of 2018:
the difficulty employers are having in finding qualified employees to fill a record 6.7 million job openings.

• Truck drivers are in perilously low supply,
• Silicon Valley continues to struggle to fill vacancies, and
• employers across the grid are coping with a skills mismatch

as the economy edges ever closer to full employment.

“Business’ number one problem is finding qualified workers. At the current pace of job growth, if sustained, this problem is set to get much worse,” Mark Zandi, chief economist at Moody’s Analytics, said in a statement. “These labor shortages will only intensify across all industries and company sizes.”
The U.S. labor shortage is reaching a critical point

Now WHY does a Trump presidency provide a business environment where THERE ARE MORE JOBS available than people to fill them?
Maybe because during our "deified God" presidency and I'm not making that up...read what a hardened
"professional journalist said about Obama...
Evan Thomas, Editor of NewsWeek...
"I mean in a way Obama's standing above the country, above above the world, he's sort of God."
Newsweek’s Evan Thomas: Obama Is ‘Sort of God’

Despite the miserable results from the $48 billion spent on infrastructure in the $787 billion American Reinvestment and Recovery Act, President Obama’s recently-proposed American Jobs Act includes $50 billion for new infrastructure projects to be funded through the creation of a government-run infrastructure bank
The Shovel-Ready Jobs Swindle

And it was so evident that EVEN OBAMA said there never were "shovel ready jobs"!
"Remember ‘shovel-ready projects.' Those were construction projects in the 2009 stimulus bill that were supposed to get moving right away ... ‘Shovel-ready was not as shovel-ready as we expected,' Obama said." (David Jackson, "Obama Jokes About 'Shovel-Ready Projects'," USA Today, 6/13/11)
Mitt Romney: Press Release - President Obama's Not-So-Shovel-Ready Jobs

MAYBE JUST MAYBE Trump would NEVER be so anti-business, anti-profit, anti-capitalist as this list of Obama
quotes show. NONE of which Trump WOULD ever ever say!View attachment 203053

Obama took over an economy that was at its worst point since before WW2.

Trump took over an economy that was doing really, really well.

There's a big difference.

It's like comparing a soccer goalkeeper with a striker and saying the goalkeeper is not nearly as good as the striker because he hasn't scored many goals.

The issue is what to do with the economy you inherit. BO imposed massive regulations which hampered economic growth. Trump has lessened the regulatory state, hence greater economic growth.

There is no "greater economic growth" going on.

BO never reached 3%. Trump did it in his first year. Must mean greater economic growth no?

https://d3fy651gv2fhd3.cloudfront.net/charts/united-states-gdp-growth.png?s=gdp+cqoq&v=201806281232v

 

[Rustic]

Obama got us out of a recession. Trump is riding his wave .

Facts say otherwise.

Which facts?

Please list all the economic indicators that have shown a turn around since the Trump election.

Female employment level higher than at any point of time since 1953. Black unemployment at levels never seen before. The same for Hispanic employment. Actual GDP is increasing at a level that your hero, the obummer, and his sycophant economists claimed was impossible to ever see again.

Next.

Female employment was rising prior to the election, thus no turn around just a continuation.

Black unemployment was falling prior to the election, thus no turn around just a continuation..

Hispanic employment was rising prior to the election, thus no turn around just a continuation.

GDP growth has been in the low 3 or below, nothing new there either.

Next...find something that has "turned around" since the election, something that is now moving in a different direction.

People feel generally better about there not being a socialist in the White House

 

[Pilot1]

It is nice not having Valerie Jarrett, and avowed Communist running the country now.