The 2nd Civil War

An individual. Not an army. Any revolutionary army that I command or lead would not fire on children or schools, and would provide warning at least a day in advance if a siege or battle in a heavily-populated area were to commence.

Obviously nobody in their right mind would ever take your crazy ass seriously....but don't you worry about sponsoring armed treason in an open forum such as this?

As I have repeated constantly, I am advocating the people to rise up against the government peacefully and with protests as guaranteed by the First Amendment. If the government then refuses to heed such protests and condemns us for exercising the 1st Amendment, as well as continues to take away the rights of the people, then it will be my duty to take up arms against the government, for they would no longer represent the Constitution that gives them power, making them illegitimate. So I am technically not for armed treason.

--That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, --That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. -The Declaration of Independence.

You poor delusional moron.

"technically"....yeah go with that in front of the judge. You don't mind if your trial for treason is in our courtrooms...or are you going to appoint your brother in law as judge for whatever idiotic colony you plan on instituting?

:cuckoo:
 
Unless I am the winner! (maniacal laughter in background)
How old are you OldSchool? Too old to be of any real use in a military campaign, probably. I, on the other hand, practice shooting actual rifles (as opposed to video game ones) constantly, study military tactics and logistics, acquaint myself with military equipment and gear, condition myself for long marches and hikes and extreme weather conditions, am a very persuasive speaker (face to face), am highly manipulative, make wonderful grades throughout school, etc.

I smell a Personality Disorder.

Which one?

The most obvious would be Narcissistic. Of course you may simply need attention.
 
I fully intend to fight on the field under an assumed name at a mid-level officership. Lieutenant or Captain, maybe. Not exactly "chairborne."

And all of my plans are for getting punched in the mouth. Or, more accurately, what you do in reply.

Great "army" you got there....people can appoint themselves officers. That, in case you don't know it...is a weakness there Napoleon.

Considering it's my army, and I would technically be the Supreme Commander of it, I could appoint my psuedo-character whatever position I wanted to hold. It would also add a bit of mystery to it, the men knowing that one of the mid-tier officers was actually the Supreme Commander. Make them have faith in their leaders. And it would keep the upper echelon humble, knowing the Captain they are berating for no reason could actually be their leader.

Yes and when asked about your credentials to lead...you could tell them about your valor and bravery on USMB prophesying/fantasizing about needless bloodshed.

Rot in hell.
 
Obviously nobody in their right mind would ever take your crazy ass seriously....but don't you worry about sponsoring armed treason in an open forum such as this?

As I have repeated constantly, I am advocating the people to rise up against the government peacefully and with protests as guaranteed by the First Amendment. If the government then refuses to heed such protests and condemns us for exercising the 1st Amendment, as well as continues to take away the rights of the people, then it will be my duty to take up arms against the government, for they would no longer represent the Constitution that gives them power, making them illegitimate. So I am technically not for armed treason.

--That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, --That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. -The Declaration of Independence.

You poor delusional moron.

"technically"....yeah go with that in front of the judge. You don't mind if your trial for treason is in our courtrooms...or are you going to appoint your brother in law as judge for whatever idiotic colony you plan on instituting?

:cuckoo:

Well, I am not advocating treason am I? Only if the government takes our rights and refuses to be held accountable will I take up arms. And I don't plan on making a colony, I plan on spending as much I time as it takes to find like minded people across America and get them to form a coalition. Then, we would protest the government until either they fix America or take our right to protest or our right to free speech. The, hopefully, enough of America would be outraged against the government that they would enlist their aid to driving the dictators out of Washington. If not, it is my duty as a loyal American citizen to at least attempt to win our rights back, follow?
 
Great "army" you got there....people can appoint themselves officers. That, in case you don't know it...is a weakness there Napoleon.

Considering it's my army, and I would technically be the Supreme Commander of it, I could appoint my psuedo-character whatever position I wanted to hold. It would also add a bit of mystery to it, the men knowing that one of the mid-tier officers was actually the Supreme Commander. Make them have faith in their leaders. And it would keep the upper echelon humble, knowing the Captain they are berating for no reason could actually be their leader.

Yes and when asked about your credentials to lead...you could tell them about your valor and bravery on USMB prophesying/fantasizing about needless bloodshed.

Rot in hell.

Why do you believe I should rot in hell for hoping for a better America? Do you seriously believe America is good the way it is?
 
There will be no hostile conflict.

Stupid liberals are going through extraordinary means to reduce their impact on the genepool through abortion, contraception and the advancement of sexual perversion.

Conservatives are allowing their children to be born, are actively reproducing, finding means to avoid the influences of stupid liberals on their children, have control over most of the weapons in the country, and have a belief in God that prevents the sort of violence that leftist revolutionaries are infamous for.

In a generation or two the bed wetter influence on society will have diminished, the stupid people will be engaged in menial employment, in prison, starved to death, or died of an STD.

That's not to say we can relax, we need to defeat these parasites on every level possible.

I'm not against the left or the right, all I care about is America being great and a beacon of prosperity to the world. If your scenario comes true, wonderful. A war has been averted and I will gladly relinquish feelings of hatred toward the government. But I believe that is wishful thinking. I don't believe the left will die out in a few generations, nor do I believe the Republicans will have complete dominance if that were to happen.

If you "care about America being great and a beacon of prosperity to the world", then you're against the left.
 
Everyone knows that at the rate things are going, we will probably have a 2nd Civil War sometime in our near future. The question is, who will come out on top?
Do you think it will be the Dems? The Right? The people? Or some dissident cell? What about a terrorist group?

My hopes and bets are on a dissident cell made up of the common people.

I don't think it will happen. Most people aren't even interested in politics and don't even vote. The right wing, being pro authoritarian and corporate state, would not only not rebel ,but would probably be shooting at dissidents. Look how they act in other movements. The right was booing protesters during vietnam war and occupy wall street movement. So there's half the population right there you can't trust.
 
There will be no hostile conflict.

Stupid liberals are going through extraordinary means to reduce their impact on the genepool through abortion, contraception and the advancement of sexual perversion.

Conservatives are allowing their children to be born, are actively reproducing, finding means to avoid the influences of stupid liberals on their children, have control over most of the weapons in the country, and have a belief in God that prevents the sort of violence that leftist revolutionaries are infamous for.

In a generation or two the bed wetter influence on society will have diminished, the stupid people will be engaged in menial employment, in prison, starved to death, or died of an STD.

That's not to say we can relax, we need to defeat these parasites on every level possible.

I'm not against the left or the right, all I care about is America being great and a beacon of prosperity to the world. If your scenario comes true, wonderful. A war has been averted and I will gladly relinquish feelings of hatred toward the government. But I believe that is wishful thinking. I don't believe the left will die out in a few generations, nor do I believe the Republicans will have complete dominance if that were to happen.

If you "care about America being great and a beacon of prosperity to the world", then you're against the left.

Fine, as the left is in general right now, I am against it.
 
Everyone knows that at the rate things are going, we will probably have a 2nd Civil War sometime in our near future. The question is, who will come out on top?
Do you think it will be the Dems? The Right? The people? Or some dissident cell? What about a terrorist group?

My hopes and bets are on a dissident cell made up of the common people.

I don't think it will happen. Most people aren't even interested in politics and don't even vote. The right wing, being pro authoritarian and corporate state, would not only not rebel ,but would probably be shooting at dissidents. Look how they act in other movements. The right was booing protesters during vietnam war and occupy wall street movement. So there's half the population right there you can't trust.

Not the leaders. But, then again, I had no intention of trusting them in the first place. I want a government that truly exists for the wellbeing of the people. Not making them lazy by dependency, but not letting them starve either. Teaching them self-reliance, while at the same time letting them know they have a government that cares about them. Giving them opportunities, without shoving them down their throats. Giving them a world worth living in, but still letting them be free. Granting freedoms and rights, but still keeping a firm hand about the welfare of the state.
 
Considering it's my army, and I would technically be the Supreme Commander of it, I could appoint my psuedo-character whatever position I wanted to hold. It would also add a bit of mystery to it, the men knowing that one of the mid-tier officers was actually the Supreme Commander. Make them have faith in their leaders. And it would keep the upper echelon humble, knowing the Captain they are berating for no reason could actually be their leader.

Yes and when asked about your credentials to lead...you could tell them about your valor and bravery on USMB prophesying/fantasizing about needless bloodshed.

Rot in hell.

Why do you believe I should rot in hell for hoping for a better America? Do you seriously believe America is good the way it is?

You have no such hope. You have some sort of juvenile sophomoric fantasy about conflict in which you, no doubt, would be some sort of hero.

Yes, I do believe America is "good" the way it is. In fact, it's great.
 
I'm not against the left or the right, all I care about is America being great and a beacon of prosperity to the world. If your scenario comes true, wonderful. A war has been averted and I will gladly relinquish feelings of hatred toward the government. But I believe that is wishful thinking. I don't believe the left will die out in a few generations, nor do I believe the Republicans will have complete dominance if that were to happen.

If you "care about America being great and a beacon of prosperity to the world", then you're against the left.

Fine, as the left is in general right now, I am against it.

The "right" as it advances an agenda of big government regulating individual behaviors and promoting laws based on religious beliefs is flawed as well.

While I agree with some of their fundamentals, these issues can not, and should not be issues of federal law.

The history of the 18th Amendment should be enough of a case study of good intentions gone fucked up.
 
If you "care about America being great and a beacon of prosperity to the world", then you're against the left.

Fine, as the left is in general right now, I am against it.

The "right" as it advances an agenda of big government regulating individual behaviors and promoting laws based on religious beliefs is flawed as well.

While I agree with some of their fundamentals, these issues can not, and should not be issues of federal law.

The history of the 18th Amendment should be enough of a case study of good intentions gone fucked up.

And there you reach my other main point. Neither party is right. Both are highly flawed. Honestly, something along the lines of a smaller-government, better defined religious freedom, actual separation of Church and State, moderate Conservative is probably the best way to go, in my opinion.
 
Yes and when asked about your credentials to lead...you could tell them about your valor and bravery on USMB prophesying/fantasizing about needless bloodshed.

Rot in hell.

Why do you believe I should rot in hell for hoping for a better America? Do you seriously believe America is good the way it is?

You have no such hope. You have some sort of juvenile sophomoric fantasy about conflict in which you, no doubt, would be some sort of hero.

Yes, I do believe America is "good" the way it is. In fact, it's great.

And you would keep it how it is? All the corruption, debt, decline? Is so, you are the juvenile with the sophomoric philosophy.
 
Yes and when asked about your credentials to lead...you could tell them about your valor and bravery on USMB prophesying/fantasizing about needless bloodshed.

Rot in hell.

Why do you believe I should rot in hell for hoping for a better America? Do you seriously believe America is good the way it is?

You have no such hope. You have some sort of juvenile sophomoric fantasy about conflict in which you, no doubt, would be some sort of hero.

Yes, I do believe America is "good" the way it is. In fact, it's great.

Bullshit candyass, you loathe this country.

You are one of the biggest voices of dissent regarding the foundation of this country and the Jewish/Christian fundamentals that brought it about. You hold entrepreneurial achievement in contempt, promote class envy and advance marxist dogma.

If idiots like you had their way you would have slept soundly in a labor camp while the rest of us were dragged away and killed for not being mindlessly devoted to "the common good".

Drake Roberts may have "some sort of juvenile sophomoric fantasy about conflict", but the end result would be far less horrific than the Orwellian nightmare imbeciles like you would bring to life if left unopposed.

They have everything you want in North Korea, so just go there and leave the rest of us alone.
 
Why do you believe I should rot in hell for hoping for a better America? Do you seriously believe America is good the way it is?

You have no such hope. You have some sort of juvenile sophomoric fantasy about conflict in which you, no doubt, would be some sort of hero.

Yes, I do believe America is "good" the way it is. In fact, it's great.

And you would keep it how it is? All the corruption, debt, decline? Is so, you are the juvenile with the sophomoric philosophy.

Yeah right retard...and you are above all of that right? And all of your "appointees" will be above it too.

You yourself have appointed yourself as a lieutennant in your make-believe army (talking about corruption).

Decline? Wrong. What you're seeing is other countries catching up to us. They're progressing; we are not in decline. The wonderful book, The Lexus and the Olive Tree spells it out but since there are multi-syllable words...you're likely not interested.

Compared to your banana republic with a chairborne warrior at the helm; I'll take America on it's worst day and 40 years of Nixons and Hardings before I'd follow you to the Sunday Brunch Buffet.
 
Everyone knows that at the rate things are going, we will probably have a 2nd Civil War sometime in our near future. The question is, who will come out on top?
Do you think it will be the Dems? The Right? The people? Or some dissident cell? What about a terrorist group?

My hopes and bets are on a dissident cell made up of the common people.

I don't think it will happen. Most people aren't even interested in politics and don't even vote. The right wing, being pro authoritarian and corporate state, would not only not rebel ,but would probably be shooting at dissidents. Look how they act in other movements. The right was booing protesters during vietnam war and occupy wall street movement. So there's half the population right there you can't trust.

Not the leaders. But, then again, I had no intention of trusting them in the first place. I want a government that truly exists for the wellbeing of the people. Not making them lazy by dependency, but not letting them starve either. Teaching them self-reliance, while at the same time letting them know they have a government that cares about them. Giving them opportunities, without shoving them down their throats. Giving them a world worth living in, but still letting them be free. Granting freedoms and rights, but still keeping a firm hand about the welfare of the state.

Sounds like European socialism to me. I'm all for it. Start by nationalizing the banks that got us in this mess like some scandinavian countries did. Sweden and Iceland. Nationalize certain resources like oil and use the proceeds for education and health care. It worked for Norway and some other countries. Why should all the resources of this country belong to a few unamerican swine like the koch brothers? What happened to we the people? Put corporations back in their place such as they were after the revolution where their primary purpose wasn't profit to shareholders but serving the common good. Maybe require that politicians take routine lie detector tests and have mandatory prison sentences for selling themselves out.
 
I wonder if Fake has let those who are going to be the privates and corporals in his "army" know that they will be the ones asked to charge Capitol Hill. I'm sure they'll meet light resistance....or at least thats what they'll tell them.
 
You have no such hope. You have some sort of juvenile sophomoric fantasy about conflict in which you, no doubt, would be some sort of hero.

Yes, I do believe America is "good" the way it is. In fact, it's great.

And you would keep it how it is? All the corruption, debt, decline? Is so, you are the juvenile with the sophomoric philosophy.

Yeah right retard...and you are above all of that right? And all of your "appointees" will be above it too.

You yourself have appointed yourself as a lieutennant in your make-believe army (talking about corruption).

Decline? Wrong. What you're seeing is other countries catching up to us. They're progressing; we are not in decline. The wonderful book, The Lexus and the Olive Tree spells it out but since there are multi-syllable words...you're likely not interested.

Compared to your banana republic with a chairborne warrior at the helm; I'll take America on it's worst day and 40 years of Nixons and Hardings before I'd follow you to the Sunday Brunch Buffet.

I would appoint myself lieutenant in the first place so that I could serve on the front lines and after the war have earned respect and admiration for doing so. My appointees that would hold government offices would be selected from among the Americans who were tired of corruption and thus did something about it. Honestly, the only thing you can call me sophomoric on would be my faith in humanity. And how many times do I have to say that Drake Roberts will not lead the nation after the war is won and a new constitution has been established before it will penetrate that thick skull of yours?
 
I wonder if Fake has let those who are going to be the privates and corporals in his "army" know that they will be the ones asked to charge Capitol Hill. I'm sure they'll meet light resistance....or at least thats what they'll tell them.

Charging Capitol Hill. What rebel group in their right minds would "charge" Capitol Hill or Washington in general? No, much better to start in the mid-west, capturing states like Iowa, major food producers. Also places like Gary, Indiana, a major steel producer. Chicago, too, to add a bit more legitimacy. Then march on the south, somewhere my message would probably be well-received. After capturing the south, take a while to consolidate my holdings, then attack west and capture up to the Rockies. Leave some men there to prevent it from be reclaimed by the US, and push up along the Atlantic Coast back east, stopping in Virginia. Also attack places like Pittsburgh and New York State. Finally, with Washington all but surrounded, the nation's resources at my back, and 99% of America (not counting Alaska) under my control, I attack Washington.
 

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