The Bastard Just Had To Do It: Obama In Hiroshima Apologizes For America's Actions During WW2

[deltex1]

Again, this is what happens when you have a non-natural born Citizen as president born without sole allegiance to America.

Obama Ignores Japanese Atrocities in Hiroshima: US Decision to Drop Atom Bomb Arose from "Humanity's Worst Instincts"

Another post from the resident asshole racist who does nothing but lie, lie and lie some more. Eat shit and die you lying liar.

Obama says no apology for A-bomb on Hiroshima visit

Asked if an apology would be included in remarks he plans to make there, he said: "No, because I think that it's important to recognise that in the midst of war, leaders make all kinds of decisions.

"It's a job of historians to ask questions and examine them, but I know as somebody who has now sat in this position for the last seven and a half years, that every leader makes very difficult decisions, particularly during war time."

Can't you fucking retards understand what the word "NO" means?

Magic be schuckin' and jivin' to hide what we all know...his balls are infinitely smaller than HST's.....yo.

 

[Redfish]

you are only talking about American soldiers you forget soldiers are expendable .
the lives i'm talking about are not
your rationalization fails

No lives are expendable

But the United States and its allies had committed to removing the threat of Japan.

And guess what it worked.

Japan and the United States are friends and allies.

Well, apparently we got us some folks who don't understand that, cuz Obama just really pissed them off for knowing it without their consent.

like the poster who claims the war with japan ended before it actually did?

Einstein doesn't know that official hostilities between Japan and America ended on August 15, 1945.

you are only talking about American soldiers you forget soldiers are expendable .
the lives i'm talking about are not
your rationalization fails

No lives are expendable

But the United States and its allies had committed to removing the threat of Japan.

And guess what it worked.

Japan and the United States are friends and allies.

Well, apparently we got us some folks who don't understand that, cuz Obama just really pissed them off for knowing it without their consent.

like the poster who claims the war with japan ended before it actually did?

Einstein doesn't know that official hostilities between Japan and America ended on August 15, 1945.

false.
The surrender of the Empire of Japan on September 2, 1945, brought the hostilities of World War II to a close.

the Soviet entry into the Pacific conflict, not Hiroshima and Nagasaki, that forced Japan’s surrender

That is most absurd claim ever to appear on this message board.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

Well, apparently we got us some folks who don't understand that, cuz Obama just really pissed them off for knowing it without their consent.

like the poster who claims the war with japan ended before it actually did?

Einstein doesn't know that official hostilities between Japan and America ended on August 15, 1945.

Well, apparently we got us some folks who don't understand that, cuz Obama just really pissed them off for knowing it without their consent.

like the poster who claims the war with japan ended before it actually did?

Einstein doesn't know that official hostilities between Japan and America ended on August 15, 1945.

false.
The surrender of the Empire of Japan on September 2, 1945, brought the hostilities of World War II to a close.

the Soviet entry into the Pacific conflict, not Hiroshima and Nagasaki, that forced Japan’s surrender

Wrong as usual, after the US dropped the first bomb Japan STILL insisted on a cease fire with a return to Nov 1941 start lines and no penalties to Japan. After the 2nd Bomb ONLY the intervention of the Emperor forced the surrender, the Army which ran the Government STILL refused to surrender. Even then the Army attempted a Coup to stop the Emperor from surrendering. Source documents The Atomic Bomb and the End of World War II: A Collection of Primary Sources

I said that already and your buddy weather man keeps disputing it .

You just claimed The soviets forced the surrender not the atomic bombs.

 

[Asclepias]

Show us the congressional declaration of war regarding Syria or Libya.

It's right there with Korea, Vietnam, Grenada, Laos, Iraq.

Those were not declared wars either dummy.

 

[daws101]

like the poster who claims the war with japan ended before it actually did?

Einstein doesn't know that official hostilities between Japan and America ended on August 15, 1945.

like the poster who claims the war with japan ended before it actually did?

Einstein doesn't know that official hostilities between Japan and America ended on August 15, 1945.

false.
The surrender of the Empire of Japan on September 2, 1945, brought the hostilities of World War II to a close.

the Soviet entry into the Pacific conflict, not Hiroshima and Nagasaki, that forced Japan’s surrender

Wrong as usual, after the US dropped the first bomb Japan STILL insisted on a cease fire with a return to Nov 1941 start lines and no penalties to Japan. After the 2nd Bomb ONLY the intervention of the Emperor forced the surrender, the Army which ran the Government STILL refused to surrender. Even then the Army attempted a Coup to stop the Emperor from surrendering. Source documents The Atomic Bomb and the End of World War II: A Collection of Primary Sources

I said that already and your buddy weather man keeps disputing it .

You just claimed The soviets forced the surrender not the atomic bombs.

no I didn't claim anything .
Why did Japan surrender?

No lives are expendable

But the United States and its allies had committed to removing the threat of Japan.

And guess what it worked.

Japan and the United States are friends and allies.

Well, apparently we got us some folks who don't understand that, cuz Obama just really pissed them off for knowing it without their consent.

like the poster who claims the war with japan ended before it actually did?

Einstein doesn't know that official hostilities between Japan and America ended on August 15, 1945.

No lives are expendable

But the United States and its allies had committed to removing the threat of Japan.

And guess what it worked.

Japan and the United States are friends and allies.

Well, apparently we got us some folks who don't understand that, cuz Obama just really pissed them off for knowing it without their consent.

like the poster who claims the war with japan ended before it actually did?

Einstein doesn't know that official hostilities between Japan and America ended on August 15, 1945.

false.
The surrender of the Empire of Japan on September 2, 1945, brought the hostilities of World War II to a close.

the Soviet entry into the Pacific conflict, not Hiroshima and Nagasaki, that forced Japan’s surrender

That is most absurd claim ever to appear on this message board.

Why did Japan surrender?

 

[daws101]

What ended World War II?

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For nearly seven decades, the American public has accepted one version of the events that led to Japan’s surrender. By the middle of 1945, the war in Europe was over, and it was clear that the Japanese could hold no reasonable hope of victory. After years of grueling battle, fighting island to island across the Pacific, Japan’s Navy and Air Force were all but destroyed. The production of materiel was faltering, completely overmatched by American industry, and the Japanese people were starving. A full-scale invasion of Japan itself would mean hundreds of thousands of dead GIs, and, still, the Japanese leadership refused to surrender.

But in early August 66 years ago, America unveiled a terrifying new weapon, dropping atomic bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki. In a matter of days, the Japanese submitted, bringing the fighting, finally, to a close.

On Aug. 6, the United States marks the anniversary of the Hiroshima bombing’s mixed legacy. The leader of our democracy purposefully executed civilians on a mass scale. Yet the bombing also ended the deadliest conflict in human history.

In recent years, however, a new interpretation of events has emerged. Tsuyoshi Hasegawa - a highly respected historian at the University of California, Santa Barbara - has marshaled compelling evidence that it was the Soviet entry into the Pacific conflict, not Hiroshima and Nagasaki, that forced Japan’s surrender. His interpretation could force a new accounting of the moral meaning of the atomic attack. It also raises provocative questions about nuclear deterrence, a foundation stone of military strategy in the postwar period. And it suggests that we could be headed towards an utterly different understanding of how, and why, the Second World War came to its conclusion.

“Hasegawa has changed my mind,” says Richard Rhodes, the Pulitzer Prize-winning author of “The Making of the Atomic Bomb.” “The Japanese decision to surrender was not driven by the two bombings.”

 

[there4eyeM]

Invading Japan was an option, not a necessity. Terror bombing civilians is reprehensible. Defending it is morally bankrupt. Anyone doing so forfeits any right to indignation over 9/11.

 

[daws101]

Invading Japan was an option, not a necessity. Terror bombing civilians is reprehensible. Defending it is morally bankrupt. Anyone doing so forfeits any right to indignation over 9/11.

bravo !

 

[Redfish]

like the poster who claims the war with japan ended before it actually did?

Einstein doesn't know that official hostilities between Japan and America ended on August 15, 1945.

like the poster who claims the war with japan ended before it actually did?

Einstein doesn't know that official hostilities between Japan and America ended on August 15, 1945.

false.
The surrender of the Empire of Japan on September 2, 1945, brought the hostilities of World War II to a close.

the Soviet entry into the Pacific conflict, not Hiroshima and Nagasaki, that forced Japan’s surrender

Wrong as usual, after the US dropped the first bomb Japan STILL insisted on a cease fire with a return to Nov 1941 start lines and no penalties to Japan. After the 2nd Bomb ONLY the intervention of the Emperor forced the surrender, the Army which ran the Government STILL refused to surrender. Even then the Army attempted a Coup to stop the Emperor from surrendering. Source documents The Atomic Bomb and the End of World War II: A Collection of Primary Sources

I said that already and your buddy weather man keeps disputing it .

You just claimed The soviets forced the surrender not the atomic bombs.

the teachers union in action. US = evil. Japan = innocent victims, Russia = ended the war.

 

[Asclepias]

What ended World War II?

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For nearly seven decades, the American public has accepted one version of the events that led to Japan’s surrender. By the middle of 1945, the war in Europe was over, and it was clear that the Japanese could hold no reasonable hope of victory. After years of grueling battle, fighting island to island across the Pacific, Japan’s Navy and Air Force were all but destroyed. The production of materiel was faltering, completely overmatched by American industry, and the Japanese people were starving. A full-scale invasion of Japan itself would mean hundreds of thousands of dead GIs, and, still, the Japanese leadership refused to surrender.

But in early August 66 years ago, America unveiled a terrifying new weapon, dropping atomic bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki. In a matter of days, the Japanese submitted, bringing the fighting, finally, to a close.

On Aug. 6, the United States marks the anniversary of the Hiroshima bombing’s mixed legacy. The leader of our democracy purposefully executed civilians on a mass scale. Yet the bombing also ended the deadliest conflict in human history.

In recent years, however, a new interpretation of events has emerged. Tsuyoshi Hasegawa - a highly respected historian at the University of California, Santa Barbara - has marshaled compelling evidence that it was the Soviet entry into the Pacific conflict, not Hiroshima and Nagasaki, that forced Japan’s surrender. His interpretation could force a new accounting of the moral meaning of the atomic attack. It also raises provocative questions about nuclear deterrence, a foundation stone of military strategy in the postwar period. And it suggests that we could be headed towards an utterly different understanding of how, and why, the Second World War came to its conclusion.

“Hasegawa has changed my mind,” says Richard Rhodes, the Pulitzer Prize-winning author of “The Making of the Atomic Bomb.” “The Japanese decision to surrender was not driven by the two bombings.”

As my statistics professor in college always said, "theres your side, theres the other persons side, and then there is the video tape."

 

[Fenton Lum]

Invading Japan was an option, not a necessity. Terror bombing civilians is reprehensible. Defending it is morally bankrupt. Anyone doing so forfeits any right to indignation over 9/11.

There it is.

 

[Redfish]

Invading Japan was an option, not a necessity. Terror bombing civilians is reprehensible. Defending it is morally bankrupt. Anyone doing so forfeits any right to indignation over 9/11.

you are so full of shit. We didn't start a war with radical islam that justified 9/11. STFU you lying traitorous bastard. We ended WW2 and saved millions of lives on both sides.

 

[Redfish]

Invading Japan was an option, not a necessity. Terror bombing civilians is reprehensible. Defending it is morally bankrupt. Anyone doing so forfeits any right to indignation over 9/11.

terror bombing civilians-----------------WTF do you think your wonderful muslims are doing right now? Damn, you libs are ignorant assholes.

 

[bodecea]

Einstein doesn't know that official hostilities between Japan and America ended on August 15, 1945.

Einstein doesn't know that official hostilities between Japan and America ended on August 15, 1945.

false.
The surrender of the Empire of Japan on September 2, 1945, brought the hostilities of World War II to a close.

the Soviet entry into the Pacific conflict, not Hiroshima and Nagasaki, that forced Japan’s surrender

Wrong as usual, after the US dropped the first bomb Japan STILL insisted on a cease fire with a return to Nov 1941 start lines and no penalties to Japan. After the 2nd Bomb ONLY the intervention of the Emperor forced the surrender, the Army which ran the Government STILL refused to surrender. Even then the Army attempted a Coup to stop the Emperor from surrendering. Source documents The Atomic Bomb and the End of World War II: A Collection of Primary Sources

I said that already and your buddy weather man keeps disputing it .

You just claimed The soviets forced the surrender not the atomic bombs.

the teachers union in action. US = evil. Japan = innocent victims, Russia = ended the war.

Interesting how you just make shit up.

 

[bodecea]

Invading Japan was an option, not a necessity. Terror bombing civilians is reprehensible. Defending it is morally bankrupt. Anyone doing so forfeits any right to indignation over 9/11.

terror bombing civilians-----------------WTF do you think your wonderful muslims are doing right now? Damn, you libs are ignorant assholes.

Yes they are....that is the point that obviously went over your head.

 

[SassyIrishLass]

No lives are expendable

But the United States and its allies had committed to removing the threat of Japan.

And guess what it worked.

Japan and the United States are friends and allies.

Well, apparently we got us some folks who don't understand that, cuz Obama just really pissed them off for knowing it without their consent.

like the poster who claims the war with japan ended before it actually did?

Einstein doesn't know that official hostilities between Japan and America ended on August 15, 1945.

No lives are expendable

But the United States and its allies had committed to removing the threat of Japan.

And guess what it worked.

Japan and the United States are friends and allies.

Well, apparently we got us some folks who don't understand that, cuz Obama just really pissed them off for knowing it without their consent.

like the poster who claims the war with japan ended before it actually did?

Einstein doesn't know that official hostilities between Japan and America ended on August 15, 1945.

false.
The surrender of the Empire of Japan on September 2, 1945, brought the hostilities of World War II to a close.

the Soviet entry into the Pacific conflict, not Hiroshima and Nagasaki, that forced Japan’s surrender

That is most absurd claim ever to appear on this message board.

The Japanese announced they had surrendered August 15,1945 ending hostilities, the formal signing of the declaration of surrender took place September 2, 1945. The war ended August 15, 1945 that's why VJ day is August 15th (to some it's August 14th due to the International Date line)

 

[Asclepias]

Invading Japan was an option, not a necessity. Terror bombing cf vilians is reprehensible. Defending it is morally bankrupt. Anyone doing so forfeits any right to indignation over 9/11.

Not to mention what the US did to the people in the south pacific testing more of the bombs.


Bikini Atoll nuclear test: 60 years later and islands still unliveable

 

[RetiredGySgt]

Einstein doesn't know that official hostilities between Japan and America ended on August 15, 1945.

Einstein doesn't know that official hostilities between Japan and America ended on August 15, 1945.

false.
The surrender of the Empire of Japan on September 2, 1945, brought the hostilities of World War II to a close.

the Soviet entry into the Pacific conflict, not Hiroshima and Nagasaki, that forced Japan’s surrender

Wrong as usual, after the US dropped the first bomb Japan STILL insisted on a cease fire with a return to Nov 1941 start lines and no penalties to Japan. After the 2nd Bomb ONLY the intervention of the Emperor forced the surrender, the Army which ran the Government STILL refused to surrender. Even then the Army attempted a Coup to stop the Emperor from surrendering. Source documents The Atomic Bomb and the End of World War II: A Collection of Primary Sources

I said that already and your buddy weather man keeps disputing it .

You just claimed The soviets forced the surrender not the atomic bombs.

no I didn't claim anything .
Why did Japan surrender?

Well, apparently we got us some folks who don't understand that, cuz Obama just really pissed them off for knowing it without their consent.

like the poster who claims the war with japan ended before it actually did?

Einstein doesn't know that official hostilities between Japan and America ended on August 15, 1945.

Well, apparently we got us some folks who don't understand that, cuz Obama just really pissed them off for knowing it without their consent.

like the poster who claims the war with japan ended before it actually did?

Einstein doesn't know that official hostilities between Japan and America ended on August 15, 1945.

false.
The surrender of the Empire of Japan on September 2, 1945, brought the hostilities of World War II to a close.

the Soviet entry into the Pacific conflict, not Hiroshima and Nagasaki, that forced Japan’s surrender

That is most absurd claim ever to appear on this message board.

Why did Japan surrender?

Your claim that the Soviets ended the war not the atomic bombs is clear as day you said it in the above quote.

 

[Asclepias]

Invading Japan was an option, not a necessity. Terror bombing civilians is reprehensible. Defending it is morally bankrupt. Anyone doing so forfeits any right to indignation over 9/11.

you are so full of shit. We didn't start a war with radical islam that justified 9/11. STFU you lying traitorous bastard. We ended WW2 and saved millions of lives on both sides.

How do you know what actions the US took that would constitute justification in the minds of the islamic terrorists?

 

[Asclepias]

false.
The surrender of the Empire of Japan on September 2, 1945, brought the hostilities of World War II to a close.

the Soviet entry into the Pacific conflict, not Hiroshima and Nagasaki, that forced Japan’s surrender

Wrong as usual, after the US dropped the first bomb Japan STILL insisted on a cease fire with a return to Nov 1941 start lines and no penalties to Japan. After the 2nd Bomb ONLY the intervention of the Emperor forced the surrender, the Army which ran the Government STILL refused to surrender. Even then the Army attempted a Coup to stop the Emperor from surrendering. Source documents The Atomic Bomb and the End of World War II: A Collection of Primary Sources

I said that already and your buddy weather man keeps disputing it .

You just claimed The soviets forced the surrender not the atomic bombs.

no I didn't claim anything .
Why did Japan surrender?

like the poster who claims the war with japan ended before it actually did?

Einstein doesn't know that official hostilities between Japan and America ended on August 15, 1945.

like the poster who claims the war with japan ended before it actually did?

Einstein doesn't know that official hostilities between Japan and America ended on August 15, 1945.

false.
The surrender of the Empire of Japan on September 2, 1945, brought the hostilities of World War II to a close.

the Soviet entry into the Pacific conflict, not Hiroshima and Nagasaki, that forced Japan’s surrender

That is most absurd claim ever to appear on this message board.

Why did Japan surrender?

Your claim that the Soviets ended the war not the atomic bombs is clear as day you said it in the above quote.

If you had read the link you would know that was not Daws words but a quote from the link.