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Lol, it sounds like you have faith in big government to make this happen, but you have no idea yourself as to where all the electricity will come from. Just so you know, big government doesn't know where it will come from either.Chevy going all electric by 2035, Ford investing 22 billion in electric vehicles. They wouldn't make those big investment if they didn't think the problems weren't mostly solved. This is the kind of progress that can be made when the Democrats contol the House, the Senate, the White House, and Pillows.
Used batteries that supposedly are being recycled are IN FACT quitely being buried in landfills all over the US.No vehicle be it electric or gasoline powered will have a zero waste factor.
Yes used batteries can be an issue but we already recycle used care batteries in fact you can't have a battery replaced where the shop doesn't recycle the old one. Even if you DIY the auto part store will charge you an extra 50 bucks if you don't give them your old battery.
There may or may not be less issues with electric vehicles but I think it will likely be a wash as far as waste or disposal problems are concerned. But we can still decrease pollution and increase air quality
Let's not ignore the good in favor of the perfect
The cost of 'recycling' a car battery is prohibitive. Not to mention very toxic to the environment.
No--------because they lack power--they can't tow........Electric vehicles will become the standard over the next 50 years or so. Will they completely replace the internal combustion engines? no.
W back in the first couple years of the century promoted Hydrogen powered cars. When the Prog Congress took over they eliminated it. Why? Hydrogen can be taken from water. Salt water. we never got a reason for it. Bu tthen maybe it was to make people rich backed by their own politicians. Like oil being transported by rail cars instead of pipelines and costing 3 times more to do so as Biden's executive order did for his corporatist masters.Oh, absolutely, big time. That's downtown Detroit. Totally sold out to the labor unions, UAW etc. Health and workman's compensation insurance on the job, defined benefit pension plan, government mandated airbags, seatbelt asshattery, ambulance response to the front lines at the factory, etc. etc.Are you calling General Motors and the Ford Motor Company part of the wacko left?
You realize ExxonMobil, as well as many other long time big corporations have the same or similar benefits for their workers too, don't you? Is ExxonMobil wacko left too?
Unless you believe in space lasers you are the "left".
Lol, it sounds like you have faith in big government to make this happen, but you have no idea yourself as to where all the electricity will come from. Just so you know, big government doesn't know where it will come from either.Chevy going all electric by 2035, Ford investing 22 billion in electric vehicles. They wouldn't make those big investment if they didn't think the problems weren't mostly solved. This is the kind of progress that can be made when the Democrats contol the House, the Senate, the White House, and Pillows.
Lol, he might be a brown's gas believer...W back in the first couple years of the century promoted Hydrogen powered cars. When the Prog Congress took over they eliminated it. Why? Hydrogen can be taken from water. Salt water. we never got a reason for it. Bu tthen maybe it was to make people rich backed by their own politicians. Like oil being transported by rail cars instead of pipelines and costing 3 times more to do so as Biden's executive order did for his corporatist masters.Oh, absolutely, big time. That's downtown Detroit. Totally sold out to the labor unions, UAW etc. Health and workman's compensation insurance on the job, defined benefit pension plan, government mandated airbags, seatbelt asshattery, ambulance response to the front lines at the factory, etc. etc.Are you calling General Motors and the Ford Motor Company part of the wacko left?
You realize ExxonMobil, as well as many other long time big corporations have the same or similar benefits for their workers too, don't you? Is ExxonMobil wacko left too?
Unless you believe in space lasers you are the "left".
To use electrolysis to separate hydrogen from water takes much more electrical energy than any energy the separated hydrogen has.
Lol, he might be a brown's gas believer...W back in the first couple years of the century promoted Hydrogen powered cars. When the Prog Congress took over they eliminated it. Why? Hydrogen can be taken from water. Salt water. we never got a reason for it. Bu tthen maybe it was to make people rich backed by their own politicians. Like oil being transported by rail cars instead of pipelines and costing 3 times more to do so as Biden's executive order did for his corporatist masters.Oh, absolutely, big time. That's downtown Detroit. Totally sold out to the labor unions, UAW etc. Health and workman's compensation insurance on the job, defined benefit pension plan, government mandated airbags, seatbelt asshattery, ambulance response to the front lines at the factory, etc. etc.Are you calling General Motors and the Ford Motor Company part of the wacko left?
You realize ExxonMobil, as well as many other long time big corporations have the same or similar benefits for their workers too, don't you? Is ExxonMobil wacko left too?
Unless you believe in space lasers you are the "left".
To use electrolysis to separate hydrogen from water takes much more electrical energy than any energy the separated hydrogen has.
They might be in a position to capitalize on some taxpayer revenue, but that doesn't mean that they know where all this electricity will be coming from. If Beijing Biden were pushing to have all cars set up with Brown's gas in 15 years, I'm pretty sure automakers would be gearing up to make them.Lol, it sounds like you have faith in big government to make this happen, but you have no idea yourself as to where all the electricity will come from. Just so you know, big government doesn't know where it will come from either.Chevy going all electric by 2035, Ford investing 22 billion in electric vehicles. They wouldn't make those big investment if they didn't think the problems weren't mostly solved. This is the kind of progress that can be made when the Democrats contol the House, the Senate, the White House, and Pillows.
I doubt Ford and Chevy are investing all that money without being confident that a source of electricity will be available.
Watched a documentary where GM and Firestone got together, and they dismantled the trolly car system in the smog capital. They did this in favor of putting GM buses with Firestone tires on the roads in order to transport passengers. Well it all failed miserably, and the taxpayers were left with the bill of rebuilding their trolly car system.W back in the first couple years of the century promoted Hydrogen powered cars. When the Prog Congress took over they eliminated it. Why? Hydrogen can be taken from water. Salt water. we never got a reason for it. Bu tthen maybe it was to make people rich backed by their own politicians. Like oil being transported by rail cars instead of pipelines and costing 3 times more to do so as Biden's executive order did for his corporatist masters.Oh, absolutely, big time. That's downtown Detroit. Totally sold out to the labor unions, UAW etc. Health and workman's compensation insurance on the job, defined benefit pension plan, government mandated airbags, seatbelt asshattery, ambulance response to the front lines at the factory, etc. etc.Are you calling General Motors and the Ford Motor Company part of the wacko left?
You realize ExxonMobil, as well as many other long time big corporations have the same or similar benefits for their workers too, don't you? Is ExxonMobil wacko left too?
Unless you believe in space lasers you are the "left".
Right because they did a great job of it when Obama had his majority ? We know Obama's green energy initiatives where a waste of tax dollars. As always the left's answer if it isn't working is to throw more money at it. Forcing green energy on the tax payers is a disaster in the making. Look at what happened in Spain and Germany.Chevy going all electric by 2035, Ford investing 22 billion in electric vehicles. They wouldn't make those big investment if they didn't think the problems weren't mostly solved. This is the kind of progress that can be made when the Democrats contol the House, the Senate, the White House, and Pillows.
Couldn't agree more.50 years is a long time.Electric vehicles will become the standard over the next 50 years or so. Will they completely replace the internal combustion engines? no.
I think battery technology MIGHT catch up to the wish list of greenies by then
But you will still need the electricity to power those batteries and its far from clear where that comes from if not nuclear or fossil fuel energy
The trouble is that the wacko left are setting target dates in the 10-15 year timeframe
The left is brain dead when it comes to nuke energy and setting arbitrary dates that it has zero idea as to the accuracy.
I understand why they do both.
Nuke accidents are messy. So is burning coal. However, the US Navy has proven (and proves every day) that if you have competent, no-nonsense professionals running the reactors who are funded properly...you can run these things almost hazard free. If we were to marry the nuke power to the US Navy standards, there is no reason we couldn't have a largely nuclear power grid producing almost no greenhouse gas emissions. Yes there will be earthquakes and yes there is danger involved. If an earthquake hit at the wrong or most vulnerable spot...we could have an environmental catastrophe anyway so the argument about "what if" is valid but doesn't ratchet up because of nuke energy outside of the fact that there would be more plants.
Science (who are dubbed leftists because they work from the shoulders up) makes predictions because we have a society that demands short, easy to understand answers instead of the truth of "I don't know" or "It's impossible to tell."
Why do people bother designing and building all that commercial shit that is not up to defense standards for the military level of use it has to be put to? If it's not built for defense, then what do you do when it gets attacked? Especially seeing as how nuclear power plants are highly targeted critical infrastructure for enemy attack? Not to mention the nuclear radiation itself is basically equivalent to a military level of attack going on all the time.Westinghouse designed reactors for both defense and commercial with information sharing.
You think that multimillion dollar multinational corporations are investing billions of dollars to support our president who will only be in office 4 or 8 years. You bet Bubba.Right because they did a great job of it when Obama had his majority ? We know Obama's green energy initiatives where a waste of tax dollars. As always the left's answer if it isn't working is to throw more money at it. Forcing green energy on the tax payers is a disaster in the making. Look at what happened in Spain and Germany.Chevy going all electric by 2035, Ford investing 22 billion in electric vehicles. They wouldn't make those big investment if they didn't think the problems weren't mostly solved. This is the kind of progress that can be made when the Democrats contol the House, the Senate, the White House, and Pillows.
Why do people bother designing and building all that commercial shit that is not up to defense standards for the military level of use it has to be put to? If it's not built for defense, then what do you do when it gets attacked? Especially seeing as how nuclear power plants are highly targeted critical infrastructure for enemy attack? Not to mention the nuclear radiation itself is basically equivalent to a military level of attack going on all the time.Westinghouse designed reactors for both defense and commercial with information sharing.
Disclaimer: I don't get along with city hall or civil engineers who design stuff to inner-city gangster specs. That's a different market where things are not so successful.
When I was a kid we rode motorcycles and mopeds. Both use gas. Today the latest thing is battery powered bikes. Way better than motorcycles and mopeds. One one battery I can do 50 miles. And these bikes are getting better by the day.Where will all the power to charge these EV's come form?
Add in the mining for rare-earth minerals which is very environmentally unfriendly.
Plus the massive problem of used-up batteries.
...But Akio Toyoda, CEO of Toyota Motors, the world’s largest (or second largest, depending on the year). and grandson of the automaker’s founder, has spoken out and called out fallacy of thinking that this is possible or desirable. [I must here disclose that I was a consultant for a Toyota company for several years, but that all my comments on the company here are based on publicly available information.]According to this account in CarBuzz:As the grandson of Toyota founder, Kiichiro Toyoda, the scion was raised surrounded by all aspects of the auto industry and his business acumen is second to none. So when he had some harsh words for electric vehicles at the Japan Automobile Manufacturers Association end-of-year press conference last week, people took notice.
The Wall Street Journal was in attendance and noted the CEO's disdain for EVs boils down to his belief they'll ruin businesses, require massive investments, and even emit more carbon dioxide than combustion-engined vehicles. "The current business model of the car industry is going to collapse," he said. "The more EVs we build, the worse carbon dioxide gets… When politicians are out there saying, 'Let's get rid of all cars using gasoline,' do they understand this?"
Studies detailing the carbon emissions necessary to manufacture an electric vehicle reveal that on a net basis, there are more emissions for vehicle bought and used for its expected lifetime, than would be generated by buying and using a conventional gasoline-powered vehicle....
The ‘battery fairy’ and other delusions in the demand to replace gasoline powered vehicles with electric cars and trucks
I continue to be amazed that serious people think that gasoline powered vehicles can be completely replaced by electric vehicles in a decade-and-a-half, and that this would be a good thing, even if possible. Under threat of government action, however...www.americanthinker.com
There's no future with your liberal bullshit, asshole. It's a parking ticket, they impound your gasoline-powerer vehicle, auction it off while you're still serving your jail sentence, better pay your electric bill, too, cuz' the good ol' boys at city hall are hard at work filing lien notices in court to foreclose on your home for a utility bill or an easement something like that.Get with the future.
You're ridiculous. In the future we will have wind, battery and nuclear to replace coal and oil.There's no future with your liberal bullshit, asshole. It's a parking ticket, they impound your gasoline-powerer vehicle, auction it off while you're still serving your jail sentence, better pay your electric bill, too, cuz' the good ol' boys at city hall are hard at work filing lien notices in court to foreclose on your home for a utility bill or an easement something like that.Get with the future.
In cities trolleys are good but there is a negative. They are in the middle of the road and back up traffic. They can be improved in newer routes or redesigned ones. There are trackless trolley buses which use tires also.Watched a documentary where GM and Firestone got together, and they dismantled the trolly car system in the smog capital. They did this in favor of putting GM buses with Firestone tires on the roads in order to transport passengers. Well it all failed miserably, and the taxpayers were left with the bill of rebuilding their trolly car system.W back in the first couple years of the century promoted Hydrogen powered cars. When the Prog Congress took over they eliminated it. Why? Hydrogen can be taken from water. Salt water. we never got a reason for it. Bu tthen maybe it was to make people rich backed by their own politicians. Like oil being transported by rail cars instead of pipelines and costing 3 times more to do so as Biden's executive order did for his corporatist masters.Oh, absolutely, big time. That's downtown Detroit. Totally sold out to the labor unions, UAW etc. Health and workman's compensation insurance on the job, defined benefit pension plan, government mandated airbags, seatbelt asshattery, ambulance response to the front lines at the factory, etc. etc.Are you calling General Motors and the Ford Motor Company part of the wacko left?
You realize ExxonMobil, as well as many other long time big corporations have the same or similar benefits for their workers too, don't you? Is ExxonMobil wacko left too?
Unless you believe in space lasers you are the "left".
Based on the performance of chevy compared to toyota its obvious that the japanese company knows more about engineering than GM doesChevy going all electric by 2035, Ford investing 22 billion in electric vehicles. They wouldn't make those big investment if they didn't think the problems weren't mostly solved.
