The big question about life on other planets: 1000000000000000000000 planets in the universe

[Fort Fun Indiana]

I'm quite sure there is life on other planets. I doubt that we will ever meet each other given the laws of physics.

Life or sentient life?

Sentient. That's the interesting aspect, imho.

Well, if one considers octopuses to be somewhat sentient, and many mammals, it starts to look like sentience might always arise where there is life, given enough time.

 

[DOTR]

There is no reason to suspect life outsides earth's. None whatsoever. They keep pinning their hopes on "earth like" worlds yet here on the most earth like of worlds life only arose once in billions of years. A truly unique event in the most welcoming and perfect of environments.

And to top it off their were seven sieves or events life had to travel to become ourselves and each of those was such a long shot as to be called almost miraculous events.

It is their philosophy..not science..which leads them to swear there must be life other than earth life with zero evidence for the claim.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

There is no reason to suspect life outsides earth's. None whatsoever.

False. There is a mountain of reasons.

Thanks for posting!

 

[james bond]

There is a mountain of reasons.

Like magic. And belief in fake science.

 

[bripat9643]

This is where it started... Winged flying gods in a circle... Sumer. 4000 BC.

That's for sure Persian and not Sumerian. This symbol is clearly shoroastric.

That's the Sumerian God Enki:

https://www.theancientaliens.com/gods-of-sumeria


Above: Cylinder seal that depicts Enki, the great Anuna god, decending from the heavens in a flying disc. He brings the power and knowledge of the "tree of life" with him and puts that power into the hands of the other Anuna. This tree is shown in the center of the scene. It is important to note that the device refered to as a tree does not really look like a tree, but more like a mechanical device with multiple hinged arms coming from it. The Sumerians may have been trying to describe advanced technologies that they could not explain.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

The Sumerians may have been trying to describe advanced technologies that they could not explain.

Heh heh

Oooor they may not have been.

No offense to your post.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Imagine a planet the size of Jupiter, 100's of billions of citizens

Jupiter is a gas giant and technically has no surface on which it's citizens and live.

A terrestrial planet the size of Jupiter would have a surface gravity many hundreds of time that of Earth, making it highly unlikely to evolve any citizens.

Also, because of the time contraction caused by the extreme gravity, any citizens that do evolve will come and go in the wink of a geological eye.

Also, because of the time contraction caused by the extreme gravity,

Even 200 gravities would only have a very small time dilation impact.

 

[fncceo]

Imagine a planet the size of Jupiter, 100's of billions of citizens

Jupiter is a gas giant and technically has no surface on which it's citizens and live.

A terrestrial planet the size of Jupiter would have a surface gravity many hundreds of time that of Earth, making it highly unlikely to evolve any citizens.

Also, because of the time contraction caused by the extreme gravity, any citizens that do evolve will come and go in the wink of a geological eye.

Also, because of the time contraction caused by the extreme gravity,

Even 200 gravities would only have a very small time dilation impact.

A terrestrial planet, not a gas giant, the size of Jupiter would exert several thousands of Gs.

 

[bripat9643]

The Sumerians may have been trying to describe advanced technologies that they could not explain.

Heh heh

Oooor they may not have been.

No offense to your post.

I know the link is to a kook cite, but it does explain the origin of the symbol.

 

[james bond]

This is where it started... Winged flying gods in a circle... Sumer. 4000 BC.

That's for sure Persian and not Sumerian. This symbol is clearly shoroastric.

That's the Sumerian God Enki:

https://www.theancientaliens.com/gods-of-sumeria


Above: Cylinder seal that depicts Enki, the great Anuna god, decending from the heavens in a flying disc. He brings the power and knowledge of the "tree of life" with him and puts that power into the hands of the other Anuna. This tree is shown in the center of the scene. It is important to note that the device refered to as a tree does not really look like a tree, but more like a mechanical device with multiple hinged arms coming from it. The Sumerians may have been trying to describe advanced technologies that they could not explain.

Finally, there is a myth about aliens (in the distant past), but it could have been angels.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

A terrestrial planet, not a gas giant, the size of Jupiter would exert several thousands of Gs.

We think it's almost certain those do not exist. .

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

The Sumerians may have been trying to describe advanced technologies that they could not explain.

Heh heh

Oooor they may not have been.

No offense to your post.

I know the link is to a kook cite, but it does explain the origin of the symbol.

Yep

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Imagine a planet the size of Jupiter, 100's of billions of citizens

Jupiter is a gas giant and technically has no surface on which it's citizens and live.

A terrestrial planet the size of Jupiter would have a surface gravity many hundreds of time that of Earth, making it highly unlikely to evolve any citizens.

Also, because of the time contraction caused by the extreme gravity, any citizens that do evolve will come and go in the wink of a geological eye.

Also, because of the time contraction caused by the extreme gravity,

Even 200 gravities would only have a very small time dilation impact.

A terrestrial planet, not a gas giant, the size of Jupiter would exert several thousands of Gs.

A terrestrial planet, not a gas giant, the size of Jupiter would exert several thousands of Gs.

You're exaggerating. I'm willing to look over your math if you post it here.

 

[bripat9643]

Imagine a planet the size of Jupiter, 100's of billions of citizens

Jupiter is a gas giant and technically has no surface on which it's citizens and live.

A terrestrial planet the size of Jupiter would have a surface gravity many hundreds of time that of Earth, making it highly unlikely to evolve any citizens.

Also, because of the time contraction caused by the extreme gravity, any citizens that do evolve will come and go in the wink of a geological eye.

Also, because of the time contraction caused by the extreme gravity,

Even 200 gravities would only have a very small time dilation impact.

A terrestrial planet, not a gas giant, the size of Jupiter would exert several thousands of Gs.

A terrestrial planet, not a gas giant, the size of Jupiter would exert several thousands of Gs.

You're exaggerating. I'm willing to look over your math if you post it here.

Gravity on Jupiter is not thousands of times Earth's gravity. In fact, it's only 2.5 times Earth's gravity

How Strong Is Jupiter's Gravity? - Universe Today

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Imagine a planet the size of Jupiter, 100's of billions of citizens

Jupiter is a gas giant and technically has no surface on which it's citizens and live.

A terrestrial planet the size of Jupiter would have a surface gravity many hundreds of time that of Earth, making it highly unlikely to evolve any citizens.

Also, because of the time contraction caused by the extreme gravity, any citizens that do evolve will come and go in the wink of a geological eye.

Also, because of the time contraction caused by the extreme gravity,

Even 200 gravities would only have a very small time dilation impact.

A terrestrial planet, not a gas giant, the size of Jupiter would exert several thousands of Gs.

A terrestrial planet, not a gas giant, the size of Jupiter would exert several thousands of Gs.

You're exaggerating. I'm willing to look over your math if you post it here.

Gravity on Jupiter is not thousands of times Earth's gravity. In fact, it's only 2.5 times Earth's gravity

How Strong Is Jupiter's Gravity? - Universe Today

In fact, it's only 2.5 times Earth's gravity

But if it were made of similar material as Earth, instead of gas, its gravity would be higher than that.
But still not several thousands of gravities.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Jupiter is a gas giant and technically has no surface on which it's citizens and live.

A terrestrial planet the size of Jupiter would have a surface gravity many hundreds of time that of Earth, making it highly unlikely to evolve any citizens.

Also, because of the time contraction caused by the extreme gravity, any citizens that do evolve will come and go in the wink of a geological eye.

Also, because of the time contraction caused by the extreme gravity,

Even 200 gravities would only have a very small time dilation impact.

A terrestrial planet, not a gas giant, the size of Jupiter would exert several thousands of Gs.

A terrestrial planet, not a gas giant, the size of Jupiter would exert several thousands of Gs.

You're exaggerating. I'm willing to look over your math if you post it here.

Gravity on Jupiter is not thousands of times Earth's gravity. In fact, it's only 2.5 times Earth's gravity

How Strong Is Jupiter's Gravity? - Universe Today

In fact, it's only 2.5 times Earth's gravity

But if it were made of similar material as Earth, instead of gas, its gravity would be higher than that.
But still not several thousands of gravities.

About 1321 gravities, if the same density as earth. But it would be much more dense than earth at jupiter's current volume, so would exert much more than 1321 times earths gravity.

But we are pretty certain such a large rock won't exist. There is not enough rocky material in our entire solar system to form an object anywhere near as large as jupiter. Jupiter is mostly gas, yet it contains more mass than all of the other planets combined.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Like magic. And belief in fake science.

* what religious nutballs call good science

 

[zaangalewa]

This is where it started... Winged flying gods in a circle... Sumer. 4000 BC.

That's for sure Persian and not Sumerian. This symbol is clearly shoroastric.

That's the Sumerian God Enki:

https://www.theancientaliens.com/gods-of-sumeria


Above: Cylinder seal that depicts Enki, the great Anuna god, decending from the heavens in a flying disc. He brings the power and knowledge of the "tree of life" with him and puts that power into the hands of the other Anuna. This tree is shown in the center of the scene. It is important to note that the device refered to as a tree does not really look like a tree, but more like a mechanical device with multiple hinged arms coming from it. The Sumerians may have been trying to describe advanced technologies that they could not explain.

I doubt about this interpretation or whether this text has anythnig to do with this artefact - if it is a real artefact at all. Source please! The similarity is to high wíth symbols in context of the Persian god (or principle) Ahura Mazda.

Here a picture of the Sumerian god Enki. Euphrates and Tigris start from his shoulders.

 

[RWS]

The Sumerians may have been trying to describe advanced technologies that they could not explain.

Heh heh

Oooor they may not have been.

No offense to your post.

Of course they were. It produced their scientific knowledge, and most importantly their mathematical and counting system. Sexagesimal.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

The Sumerians may have been trying to describe advanced technologies that they could not explain.

Heh heh

Oooor they may not have been.

No offense to your post.

Of course they were. It produced their scientific knowledge, and most importantly their mathematical and counting system. Sexagesimal.

So they knew about advanced technologies. But they could not explain them. Okay. Sure.