The Communist Party USA endorses Bernie Sanders.

That shouldn't be a surprise. They endorsed Obama too and they have taken over the Democrat party. dem. voters today have no idea they are voting in commies and cutting their own throats. but when you try and tell them they just, poo poo it.
 
Communism is the most murderous and destructive sociopolitical entity in history and now the US wing is endorsing the Bern. The party has placed its hopes on the Democratic nominee in every presidential election going back to the 80's.

When Sanders looses the nomination to Clinton will the Communist Party turn its support to Clinton or will they support the Bern going full on Commie and running as a third party candidate.

Bernie Sanders 'political revolution' » cpusa


Communism is the most murderous and destructive sociopolitical entity in history

Bullshit.

There's nothing "murderous" or "destructive" in communism. It's an economic structure philosophy.

I can point you to a particular religious sect that's been living and breathing communism for their entire existence, which is five hundred years. In all that time they've had one murder and two suicides. Total. In five hundred years.

None of that has anything to do with Sanders, who is a Democratic Socialist --- not a "communist".

Learn to read.

I think we can all agree that Communism is a failed business model.

Can we now.

There aren't a lot of well-known examples but the one I cited above, the religious group who have lived in self-sufficient communes where the colony owns everything communally (rather than having 'personal property') have been doing it since the 16th century, have never been in any kind of war (they're absolute pacifists), and sometimes incur the resentment of their neighbors because their system is so efficient they can buy more land much faster than their neighbors can.

That's my kind of "failure". :thup:


I just like to challenge posters who use terms they don't understand for a definition. Then I watch 'em go "humma humma humma". It's hilarious.

I'm kinda sadistic that way, but they came in askin' for it.

I still haven't got the OP to articulate his Association Fallacy though, so .... Back to work.
 
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Communism is the most murderous and destructive sociopolitical entity in history and now the US wing is endorsing the Bern. The party has placed its hopes on the Democratic nominee in every presidential election going back to the 80's.

When Sanders looses the nomination to Clinton will the Communist Party turn its support to Clinton or will they support the Bern going full on Commie and running as a third party candidate.

Bernie Sanders 'political revolution' » cpusa


Communism is the most murderous and destructive sociopolitical entity in history

Bullshit.

There's nothing "murderous" or "destructive" in communism. It's an economic structure philosophy.

I can point you to a particular religious sect that's been living and breathing communism for their entire existence, which is five hundred years. In all that time they've had one murder and two suicides. Total. In five hundred years.

None of that has anything to do with Sanders, who is a Democratic Socialist --- not a "communist".

Learn to read.

I think we can all agree that Communism is a failed business model.

Can we now.

There aren't a lot of well-known examples but the one I cited above, the religious group who have lived in self-sufficient communes where the colony owns everything communally (rather than having 'personal property') have been doing it since the 16th century, have never been in any kind of war (they're absolute pacifists), and sometimes incur the resentment of their neighbors because their system is so efficient they can buy more land much faster than their neighbors can.

That's my kind of "failure". :thup:


I just like to challenge posters who use terms they don't understand for a definition. Then I watch 'em go "humma humma humma". It's hilarious.

I'm kinda sadistic that way, but they came in askin' for it.

I still haven't got the OP to articulate his Association Fallacy though, so .... Back to work.
Yeah it would be great except for the murders and reeducation camps. Which has happened in every attempt
of instituting Communism for groups number more than a few dozen
 
Communism is the most murderous and destructive sociopolitical entity in history and now the US wing is endorsing the Bern. The party has placed its hopes on the Democratic nominee in every presidential election going back to the 80's.

When Sanders looses the nomination to Clinton will the Communist Party turn its support to Clinton or will they support the Bern going full on Commie and running as a third party candidate.

Bernie Sanders 'political revolution' » cpusa


Communism is the most murderous and destructive sociopolitical entity in history

Bullshit.

There's nothing "murderous" or "destructive" in communism. It's an economic structure philosophy.

I can point you to a particular religious sect that's been living and breathing communism for their entire existence, which is five hundred years. In all that time they've had one murder and two suicides. Total. In five hundred years.

None of that has anything to do with Sanders, who is a Democratic Socialist --- not a "communist".

Learn to read.

I think we can all agree that Communism is a failed business model.

Can we now.

There aren't a lot of well-known examples but the one I cited above, the religious group who have lived in self-sufficient communes where the colony owns everything communally (rather than having 'personal property') have been doing it since the 16th century, have never been in any kind of war (they're absolute pacifists), and sometimes incur the resentment of their neighbors because their system is so efficient they can buy more land much faster than their neighbors can.

That's my kind of "failure". :thup:


I just like to challenge posters who use terms they don't understand for a definition. Then I watch 'em go "humma humma humma". It's hilarious.

I'm kinda sadistic that way, but they came in askin' for it.

I still haven't got the OP to articulate his Association Fallacy though, so .... Back to work.
That is more of a deflection than a point though. You are comparing a small community to a discussion concerning nations. The two do not operate in the same manner. In a small community the ability to hold each member accountable is much simpler and manageable where a nation it is highly complex. The ability to distribute resources is also much more manageable and far less likely to lead to a totalitarian like 'king.' On a national scale that is far more difficult and the core problem with communism. The need for a central entity to manage the resources becomes more problematic and more likely to be dictatorial as the group gets larger and more power is conferred onto it.

It is almost impossible to argue that socialism or communism does not work on the small scale - I would say such is very effective. The question is how successful it is on the large scale.
 
Communism is the most murderous and destructive sociopolitical entity in history and now the US wing is endorsing the Bern. The party has placed its hopes on the Democratic nominee in every presidential election going back to the 80's.

When Sanders looses the nomination to Clinton will the Communist Party turn its support to Clinton or will they support the Bern going full on Commie and running as a third party candidate.

Bernie Sanders 'political revolution' » cpusa


Communism is the most murderous and destructive sociopolitical entity in history

Bullshit.

There's nothing "murderous" or "destructive" in communism. It's an economic structure philosophy.

I can point you to a particular religious sect that's been living and breathing communism for their entire existence, which is five hundred years. In all that time they've had one murder and two suicides. Total. In five hundred years.

None of that has anything to do with Sanders, who is a Democratic Socialist --- not a "communist".

Learn to read.

I think we can all agree that Communism is a failed business model.

Can we now.

There aren't a lot of well-known examples but the one I cited above, the religious group who have lived in self-sufficient communes where the colony owns everything communally (rather than having 'personal property') have been doing it since the 16th century, have never been in any kind of war (they're absolute pacifists), and sometimes incur the resentment of their neighbors because their system is so efficient they can buy more land much faster than their neighbors can.

That's my kind of "failure". :thup:


I just like to challenge posters who use terms they don't understand for a definition. Then I watch 'em go "humma humma humma". It's hilarious.

I'm kinda sadistic that way, but they came in askin' for it.

I still haven't got the OP to articulate his Association Fallacy though, so .... Back to work.
That is more of a deflection than a point though. You are comparing a small community to a discussion concerning nations. The two do not operate in the same manner. In a small community the ability to hold each member accountable is much simpler and manageable where a nation it is highly complex. The ability to distribute resources is also much more manageable and far less likely to lead to a totalitarian like 'king.'

Quite likely. In fact the Hutterites to whom I refer commonly limit a colony size for that reason. Once a colony reaches I think about 150, they split off into a daughter colony. So this dynamic is already known.

And while the local unit may be regulate by such limitations, the greater population is spread out over (mostly) three states and three Canadian provinces, with several others in play as well. And they all work on the same principle, with an overall population of, last I heard, at least 50,000.

I don't know that such a growth paradigm inevitably leads to despotism any more in a more or less communal system though. Large populations are ALL complex to run. Big population on a Big land requires a Big government. It's been plausibly proposed that this country should split itself into a dozen or so autonomous regions, and the idea has merit.

But the OP made no such qualifications about size. He simply made absolute blanket statements about 'communism' as a system, attaching all sorts of nefarious causations, none of which he can back up. So I gave him a working, existing, lasting example that not only fails to prove his case; it demonstrates the reverse.

I might add that these people are (empirical observation) the happiest most self-confident bunch I've ever met, and that when any choose to leave the lifestyle and taste ours -- they almost always return.

Anyway ---- still waiting for the OP to articulate what his point was in creating this thread as regards Bernie Sanders. Other than displaying his own ignorance. I have a feeling he's not coming back.
 
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Communism is the most murderous and destructive sociopolitical entity in history and now the US wing is endorsing the Bern. The party has placed its hopes on the Democratic nominee in every presidential election going back to the 80's.

When Sanders looses the nomination to Clinton will the Communist Party turn its support to Clinton or will they support the Bern going full on Commie and running as a third party candidate.

Bernie Sanders 'political revolution' » cpusa


Communism is the most murderous and destructive sociopolitical entity in history

Bullshit.

There's nothing "murderous" or "destructive" in communism. It's an economic structure philosophy.

I can point you to a particular religious sect that's been living and breathing communism for their entire existence, which is five hundred years. In all that time they've had one murder and two suicides. Total. In five hundred years.

None of that has anything to do with Sanders, who is a Democratic Socialist --- not a "communist".

Learn to read.

I think we can all agree that Communism is a failed business model.

Can we now.

There aren't a lot of well-known examples but the one I cited above, the religious group who have lived in self-sufficient communes where the colony owns everything communally (rather than having 'personal property') have been doing it since the 16th century, have never been in any kind of war (they're absolute pacifists), and sometimes incur the resentment of their neighbors because their system is so efficient they can buy more land much faster than their neighbors can.

That's my kind of "failure". :thup:


I just like to challenge posters who use terms they don't understand for a definition. Then I watch 'em go "humma humma humma". It's hilarious.

I'm kinda sadistic that way, but they came in askin' for it.

I still haven't got the OP to articulate his Association Fallacy though, so .... Back to work.
Yeah it would be great except for the murders and reeducation camps. Which has happened in every attempt
of instituting Communism for groups number more than a few dozen

The Hutterites have no "murders or reeducation camps". In their entire history of five hundred years they've had --- either one murder and two suicides, or the other way around. Can't remember which. In five hundred years.
 
Communism is the most murderous and destructive sociopolitical entity in history and now the US wing is endorsing the Bern. The party has placed its hopes on the Democratic nominee in every presidential election going back to the 80's.

When Sanders looses the nomination to Clinton will the Communist Party turn its support to Clinton or will they support the Bern going full on Commie and running as a third party candidate.

Bernie Sanders 'political revolution' » cpusa
ummm..... who else are they going to endorse Captain Obvious?
 
Communism is the most murderous and destructive sociopolitical entity in history and now the US wing is endorsing the Bern. The party has placed its hopes on the Democratic nominee in every presidential election going back to the 80's.

When Sanders looses the nomination to Clinton will the Communist Party turn its support to Clinton or will they support the Bern going full on Commie and running as a third party candidate.

Bernie Sanders 'political revolution' » cpusa


Communism is the most murderous and destructive sociopolitical entity in history

Bullshit.

There's nothing "murderous" or "destructive" in communism. It's an economic structure philosophy.

I can point you to a particular religious sect that's been living and breathing communism for their entire existence, which is five hundred years. In all that time they've had one murder and two suicides. Total. In five hundred years.

None of that has anything to do with Sanders, who is a Democratic Socialist --- not a "communist".

Learn to read.


Lol. Millions have died under communist rule. You cant be serious.
 
Communism is the most murderous and destructive sociopolitical entity in history and now the US wing is endorsing the Bern. The party has placed its hopes on the Democratic nominee in every presidential election going back to the 80's.

When Sanders looses the nomination to Clinton will the Communist Party turn its support to Clinton or will they support the Bern going full on Commie and running as a third party candidate.

Bernie Sanders 'political revolution' » cpusa


Communism is the most murderous and destructive sociopolitical entity in history

Bullshit.

There's nothing "murderous" or "destructive" in communism. It's an economic structure philosophy.

I can point you to a particular religious sect that's been living and breathing communism for their entire existence, which is five hundred years. In all that time they've had one murder and two suicides. Total. In five hundred years.

None of that has anything to do with Sanders, who is a Democratic Socialist --- not a "communist".

Learn to read.


Lol. Millions have died under communist rule. You cant be serious.

Millions have died under totalitarian rule. For example Joe Stalin taking Ukraine's food in the 1930s.
But Stalin is responsible for that personally -- not "communism".
 
Communism is the most murderous and destructive sociopolitical entity in history and now the US wing is endorsing the Bern. The party has placed its hopes on the Democratic nominee in every presidential election going back to the 80's.

When Sanders looses the nomination to Clinton will the Communist Party turn its support to Clinton or will they support the Bern going full on Commie and running as a third party candidate.

Bernie Sanders 'political revolution' » cpusa


Communism is the most murderous and destructive sociopolitical entity in history

Bullshit.

There's nothing "murderous" or "destructive" in communism. It's an economic structure philosophy.

I can point you to a particular religious sect that's been living and breathing communism for their entire existence, which is five hundred years. In all that time they've had one murder and two suicides. Total. In five hundred years.

None of that has anything to do with Sanders, who is a Democratic Socialist --- not a "communist".

Learn to read.


Lol. Millions have died under communist rule. You cant be serious.

Millions have died under totalitarian rule. For example Joe Stalin taking Ukraine's food in the 1930s.
But Stalin is responsible for that personally -- not "communism".
And Lenin and Mao and Ho chi Minh, and Kim Jong-il and so on. What did they all have in common? They were leaders of Communist regimes.
 
Communism is the most murderous and destructive sociopolitical entity in history and now the US wing is endorsing the Bern. The party has placed its hopes on the Democratic nominee in every presidential election going back to the 80's.

When Sanders looses the nomination to Clinton will the Communist Party turn its support to Clinton or will they support the Bern going full on Commie and running as a third party candidate.

Bernie Sanders 'political revolution' » cpusa


Communism is the most murderous and destructive sociopolitical entity in history

Bullshit.

There's nothing "murderous" or "destructive" in communism. It's an economic structure philosophy.

I can point you to a particular religious sect that's been living and breathing communism for their entire existence, which is five hundred years. In all that time they've had one murder and two suicides. Total. In five hundred years.

None of that has anything to do with Sanders, who is a Democratic Socialist --- not a "communist".

Learn to read.


Lol. Millions have died under communist rule. You cant be serious.[/QUOTE
Yeah its called HISTORY maybe you've heard of it.
 
Communism is the most murderous and destructive sociopolitical entity in history and now the US wing is endorsing the Bern. The party has placed its hopes on the Democratic nominee in every presidential election going back to the 80's.

When Sanders looses the nomination to Clinton will the Communist Party turn its support to Clinton or will they support the Bern going full on Commie and running as a third party candidate.

Bernie Sanders 'political revolution' » cpusa
ummm..... who else are they going to endorse Captain Obvious?
They run their own candidate until the 80's. Realizing they could never win they started backing the party that was more in tune with their manifesto, The Democratic party.
 
Communism is the most murderous and destructive sociopolitical entity in history and now the US wing is endorsing the Bern. The party has placed its hopes on the Democratic nominee in every presidential election going back to the 80's.

When Sanders looses the nomination to Clinton will the Communist Party turn its support to Clinton or will they support the Bern going full on Commie and running as a third party candidate.

Bernie Sanders 'political revolution' » cpusa


Communism is the most murderous and destructive sociopolitical entity in history

Bullshit.

There's nothing "murderous" or "destructive" in communism. It's an economic structure philosophy.

I can point you to a particular religious sect that's been living and breathing communism for their entire existence, which is five hundred years. In all that time they've had one murder and two suicides. Total. In five hundred years.

None of that has anything to do with Sanders, who is a Democratic Socialist --- not a "communist".

Learn to read.


Lol. Millions have died under communist rule. You cant be serious.

Millions have died under totalitarian rule. For example Joe Stalin taking Ukraine's food in the 1930s.
But Stalin is responsible for that personally -- not "communism".
And Lenin and Mao and Ho chi Minh, and Kim Jong-il and so on. What did they all have in common? They were leaders of Communist regimes.

Adolf Hitler, Leopold II and Ismail Enver Pasha each killed millions too. What did they have in common with the above?

Despots. That's it.

Answer my question. WHAT is the point of this thread?
 
Communism is the most murderous and destructive sociopolitical entity in history and now the US wing is endorsing the Bern. The party has placed its hopes on the Democratic nominee in every presidential election going back to the 80's.

When Sanders looses the nomination to Clinton will the Communist Party turn its support to Clinton or will they support the Bern going full on Commie and running as a third party candidate.

Bernie Sanders 'political revolution' » cpusa


Communism is the most murderous and destructive sociopolitical entity in history

Bullshit.

There's nothing "murderous" or "destructive" in communism. It's an economic structure philosophy.

I can point you to a particular religious sect that's been living and breathing communism for their entire existence, which is five hundred years. In all that time they've had one murder and two suicides. Total. In five hundred years.

None of that has anything to do with Sanders, who is a Democratic Socialist --- not a "communist".

Learn to read.


Lol. Millions have died under communist rule. You cant be serious.

Millions have died under totalitarian rule. For example Joe Stalin taking Ukraine's food in the 1930s.
But Stalin is responsible for that personally -- not "communism".
And Lenin and Mao and Ho chi Minh, and Kim Jong-il and so on. What did they all have in common? They were leaders of Communist regimes.

Adolf Hitler, Leopold II and Ismail Enver Pasha each killed millions too. What did they have in common with the above?

Despots. That's it.

Answer my question. WHAT is the point of this thread?
Hitler was a Socalist the other two where leaders of their countries who mudered their own people put together they don't equal the number of deaths caused by the USSR alone.
 

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