The curse of socialism…

The GOP seems to be your go to for everything. That is not going to work here. I already told you I do not support the GOP.

You are deflecting to the GOP, because you do not know how to hold your own party accountable.
My party has been totally obstructed by the totally bought off, lying, brainwashing GOP. DUH.
There is very little difference between Rs and Ds. Both are criminal gangs only interested in increasing their power and wealth. When will you learn this obvious fact?
That's why Dem billionaires want to tax the rich more...Actually, they understand a healthy middle class is needed for a great economy.
The D party and probably much of the R party, do not want a strong middle class. They know unlike you, that the middle class hates big unlimited government.
And it's the GOP under Reagan and Booosh that added the most bureaucracy and debt, while Dems add gov't SERVICE and good gov't, dupe. Thanks for the stupidest wars ever, incredible pandering to the rich and giant corps, wrecking the middle class (see sig pp1), 9/11 thru sheer incompetence, AND a corrupt world depression, and now 7 3/4 years of mindless obstruction of typical solutions. Great job, dupes.

Obama has doubled the national debt in eight years. Do you know what that means? It means no other POTUS has added more debt than Big Ears. If you don't agree with this, you have a problem accepting the truth.
 
My party has been totally obstructed by the totally bought off, lying, brainwashing GOP. DUH.
There is very little difference between Rs and Ds. Both are criminal gangs only interested in increasing their power and wealth. When will you learn this obvious fact?
That's why Dem billionaires want to tax the rich more...Actually, they understand a healthy middle class is needed for a great economy.
The D party and probably much of the R party, do not want a strong middle class. They know unlike you, that the middle class hates big unlimited government.
And it's the GOP under Reagan and Booosh that added the most bureaucracy and debt, while Dems add gov't SERVICE and good gov't, dupe. Thanks for the stupidest wars ever, incredible pandering to the rich and giant corps, wrecking the middle class (see sig pp1), 9/11 thru sheer incompetence, AND a corrupt world depression, and now 7 3/4 years of mindless obstruction of typical solutions. Great job, dupes.

Obama has doubled the national debt in eight years. Do you know what that means? It means no other POTUS has added more debt than Big Ears. If you don't agree with this, you have a problem accepting the truth.
Almost all of it averting ANOTHER corrupt GOP depression and helping its victims DUH.
 
a) why is it that every other industrialized nation on Earth manages to deliver health care to a larger percentage of its population at a lower cost?

First off, the US population is only surpassed in population by China and India, so obviously the budget is always going to be a higher cost per percentage of population.

Healthcare does not have a one track cost. The best healthcare in the world exists in the United States, being pretty much the medical capital of the world. That means the most expensive surgeries, the highest costs for hospital care, and the largest selection of drugs at huge mark ups set by the corporations that produce them,

Relatively over 40% of healthcare costs go to seniors, so old people can stop themselves from croaking for several more years. The other 40% goes into health supply companies. (that's your corporate welfare PPACA) The rest is spread out lightly among the general population and research and development for new antibiotics and stuff.

Even though I totally oppose healthcare spending, your best bet for making it one of the best healthcare systems in the world is setting a significant spending cap on senior citizens. (stop expanding medicare Democrats) and ending corporate welfare in the health industry (never going to happen Democrats)

b) "Governments do not boost the economy. " This is ignorant codswallop......

They do not.

Would be nice to see an argument in support of your position though.
 
We need a more powerful IRS, EPA, and the ACA with GOP Governors expanding Medicaid.

The IRA is abominable. No idea why you would want to expand that group of illegal Nazis.

Medicaid and Medicare are two of the most inefficient healthcare programs in the world. Probably the most inefficient. Democrats like to rant about the healthcare system, but more or less they have been leading the charge since it is a socialist entity, and cut backs and reforms always get attacked because they make other individuals more accountable.

The PPACA, as has been pointed out, is a tool for big money to drive competition out of the water.

The EPA is a group that only has power when the corporations have no major interest in the environment being protected. Alaska anyone?
 
There is very little difference between Rs and Ds. Both are criminal gangs only interested in increasing their power and wealth. When will you learn this obvious fact?
That's why Dem billionaires want to tax the rich more...Actually, they understand a healthy middle class is needed for a great economy.
The D party and probably much of the R party, do not want a strong middle class. They know unlike you, that the middle class hates big unlimited government.
And it's the GOP under Reagan and Booosh that added the most bureaucracy and debt, while Dems add gov't SERVICE and good gov't, dupe. Thanks for the stupidest wars ever, incredible pandering to the rich and giant corps, wrecking the middle class (see sig pp1), 9/11 thru sheer incompetence, AND a corrupt world depression, and now 7 3/4 years of mindless obstruction of typical solutions. Great job, dupes.

Obama has doubled the national debt in eight years. Do you know what that means? It means no other POTUS has added more debt than Big Ears. If you don't agree with this, you have a problem accepting the truth.
Almost all of it averting ANOTHER corrupt GOP depression and helping its victims DUH.
The pattern has been: Republicans are elected, they pass laws giving the top mass tax breaks and so forth. A depression/recession occurs and America elects Democrats to fix the economic problems. That has been the history during my lifetime.
 
Oh there are some poor people and homeless here in the US, yes seriously, the bail out.

Negligible.

Comparing the US to third world countries is absurd and I would guess pretty offensive. Even the individuals US government considers in poverty still have tons of first world problems.

Cut the tax loopholes, raise the top tax brackets, and make them pay their fair share.

There is no such thing as fair taxation.

If we were to put fairness on a scale though, then the rich are actually paying disproportionately due to progressive taxation.

We need progressive tax brackets. Heck raise the top bracket to 70%. If its not fair too bad, better for them not to have caviar every night and us have a roof over our heads. When was the last time SS people got a raise? of more than a couple bucks, a long time. The vets , those without legs and arms who fight the wars for the wealthy ones, live a horrible life of pain and disability. Heck why should the rich pay more in taxes. Maybe they should enlist in the AF or Army, Marines, instead of sitting in their penthouse offices and golfing in the afternoon to make their deals. Please understand the Veteran hospitals need money , not talk.
To be a gift it has to be given freely, something taken and given to someone else is not ever a gift. It's just a handout, a meaningless action.
 
To be a gift it has to be given freely, something taken and given to someone else is not ever a gift. It's just a handout, a meaningless action.

When it is done under duress, it is nothing more than theft.

Modern liberals have a very "Robin Hood" mentality.
 
Well Obama only had to spend 7-8 trillion to avoid a full blown depression here. Check the effects in parts of the world who couldn't afford that...

Yes, he fixed temporary pain with long term troubles (and the puppet did not even do that)

We already expanded the artificial economy several times during the 20th century. The risk of implosion has been in steady growth.
All Obama did was make the rich richer. The stock market boomed, but over 50% of Americans are not invested in the stock market...and certainly the poor and lower middle class are not in the stock market.

If Big Ears were an R, libs and progs would be condemning him for enriching the rich while doing nothing for the poor.
JESUS CHRIST!!! GOPers blocked everything you want in this area. HELLOOOOO????
The federal government are all progressives, no one blocked shit they all spent more than what they have to spend. fact
 
That's why Dem billionaires want to tax the rich more...Actually, they understand a healthy middle class is needed for a great economy.
The D party and probably much of the R party, do not want a strong middle class. They know unlike you, that the middle class hates big unlimited government.
And it's the GOP under Reagan and Booosh that added the most bureaucracy and debt, while Dems add gov't SERVICE and good gov't, dupe. Thanks for the stupidest wars ever, incredible pandering to the rich and giant corps, wrecking the middle class (see sig pp1), 9/11 thru sheer incompetence, AND a corrupt world depression, and now 7 3/4 years of mindless obstruction of typical solutions. Great job, dupes.

Obama has doubled the national debt in eight years. Do you know what that means? It means no other POTUS has added more debt than Big Ears. If you don't agree with this, you have a problem accepting the truth.
Almost all of it averting ANOTHER corrupt GOP depression and helping its victims DUH.
The pattern has been: Republicans are elected, they pass laws giving the top mass tax breaks and so forth. A depression/recession occurs and America elects Democrats to fix the economic problems. That has been the history during my lifetime.
The federal government has no moral claim on perceived taxes…
 
Yes, he fixed temporary pain with long term troubles (and the puppet did not even do that)

We already expanded the artificial economy several times during the 20th century. The risk of implosion has been in steady growth.
We have the best economy in the world that would be a lot better if the party of NO would stop obstructing all the usual solutions, all for their greedy lying billionaires.

What are your solutions? I'm betting they're the same as the Dems'.
Imagine how great our economy would be if there were no D or R party.

Partisan hacks like you are unable to see the truth. Obama is a crony capitalist extraordinaire, but you can't see it.
Compared to the GOP, he's a commie lol...He wants to raise taxes on the bloated rich and invest in America.
Yeah he did a great job of investing in America...doubling the national debt and what do we have to show for it? If only he could triple or quadruple the national debt...then things would be WONDERFUL
90% of that debt is averting a true depression and helping victims of the GOP catastrophe.

Did you see the part about raising taxes on the bloated rich? GD GOP.
No, social entitlement programs have sunk this country. They Dorf everything else in the pie chart
 
Mainly GOP, and more than complacency, thievery and lies.

The GOP seems to be your go to for everything. That is not going to work here. I already told you I do not support the GOP.

You are deflecting to the GOP, because you do not know how to hold your own party accountable.
My party has been totally obstructed by the totally bought off, lying, brainwashing GOP. DUH.
Silly boy, if you're gonna put your trust in a career politician you do deserve to be shit on every single day… :itsok:
 
Imagine how great our economy would be if there were no D or R party.

Partisan hacks like you are unable to see the truth. Obama is a crony capitalist extraordinaire, but you can't see it.
Compared to the GOP, he's a commie lol...He wants to raise taxes on the bloated rich and invest in America.
Yeah he did a great job of investing in America...doubling the national debt and what do we have to show for it? If only he could triple or quadruple the national debt...then things would be WONDERFUL
90% of that debt is averting a true depression and helping victims of the GOP catastrophe.

Did you see the part about raising taxes on the bloated rich? GD GOP.
Absurd.

Obama merely prolonged slow growth. He did not prevent a depression. He prevented a robust economy by imposing stupid left wing policies.
What policies are those LOL? I suppose he had control of congress for 2 years? With 200 GOP filibusters? Another world for dupes only...
You do know of one party rule In Washington? The progressive party... :itsok:
 
Mainly GOP, and more than complacency, thievery and lies.

The GOP seems to be your go to for everything. That is not going to work here. I already told you I do not support the GOP.

You are deflecting to the GOP, because you do not know how to hold your own party accountable.
My party has been totally obstructed by the totally bought off, lying, brainwashing GOP. DUH.
There is very little difference between Rs and Ds. Both are criminal gangs only interested in increasing their power and wealth. When will you learn this obvious fact?
That's why Dem billionaires want to tax the rich more...Actually, they understand a healthy middle class is needed for a great economy.
Little lemming, you're gonna take the word of a "dem" billionaire? Lol
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Imagine how great our economy would be if there were no D or R party.

Partisan hacks like you are unable to see the truth. Obama is a crony capitalist extraordinaire, but you can't see it.
Compared to the GOP, he's a commie lol...He wants to raise taxes on the bloated rich and invest in America.
Yeah he did a great job of investing in America...doubling the national debt and what do we have to show for it? If only he could triple or quadruple the national debt...then things would be WONDERFUL
90% of that debt is averting a true depression and helping victims of the GOP catastrophe.

Did you see the part about raising taxes on the bloated rich? GD GOP.
Absurd.

Obama merely prolonged slow growth. He did not prevent a depression. He prevented a robust economy by imposing stupid left wing policies.
Cripes...
Imagine how great our economy would be if there were no D or R party.

Partisan hacks like you are unable to see the truth. Obama is a crony capitalist extraordinaire, but you can't see it.
Compared to the GOP, he's a commie lol...He wants to raise taxes on the bloated rich and invest in America.
Yeah he did a great job of investing in America...doubling the national debt and what do we have to show for it? If only he could triple or quadruple the national debt...then things would be WONDERFUL
90% of that debt is averting a true depression and helping victims of the GOP catastrophe.

Did you see the part about raising taxes on the bloated rich? GD GOP.
Absurd.

Obama merely prolonged slow growth. He did not prevent a depression. He prevented a robust economy by imposing stupid left wing policies.
This how our economy grows with no help. Thanks GOP. At least it's not another corrupt GOP bubble.
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Say something bad about the Democratic party to Franco and....

GOP! GOP! GOP!

No accountability whatsoever. Saul Alinsky would be proud.
The GOP makes the Dems look like saints. See before TR gilded age, 1929, the military industrial complex, S+L scandal, 2008. Tell me what Dems did! Blah blah blah.
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I brought some of them up earlier.

PPACA, agricultural subsidies, and war on coal.

60 of the superdelegates that voted for Hillary Clinton in the primary are registered corporate lobbyists.
ACA will help the middle class when implemented, just helped poor workers incredibly in blue states (gd GOP). Coal suqs, we're now competing with China and the EU on energy of the future.
There's a big difference between "energy of the future" and reliable abundant energy… This is not Star Trek. Lol
 
And our wars, tax breaks for the rich and broken healthcare system caused 95% of this debt.

False premise.

The debt came before the tax breaks.

The healthcare system is a money pit. Pretty sure your solution is to expand its role into being universal healthcare, which is going to cost even more.

Why exactly is turning our country into a third world shit hole that has a smaller economy going to help pay down this debt? Oh'yess, you Republicans have no solutions to shiit.

Who is talking about a smaller economy?

Governments do not boost the economy. They actually destroy it by systematically eradicating competition and creating new challenges for American businesses.
a) why is it that every other industrialized nation on Earth manages to deliver health care to a larger percentage of its population at a lower cost?
b) "Governments do not boost the economy. " This is ignorant codswallop......
A - Not so fast…
NHS chiefs warn that hospitals in England are on the brink of collapse
LGBT people face 'devastating' discrimination in end-of-life healthcare
B - anytime you have to rely on the federal government to "help" out the economy you're up to your neck in shit due to the federal government ... Lol
Take your socialism and shove it up dead Carl Marx's ass.
:fu::itsok:
 
don't go to Grade School teachers for pointers....

Are you acquainted with the terms "Retained Earnings" and "Stockholder Equity"?
Accounting is not that difficult, spend less than what you have and you're in the clear

that's keeping household books........take a look at a 10k for a publicly traded corporation sometime......

If accounting wasn't "all that difficult" they wouldn't be offering PhDs in the discipline.....and there wouldn't be IFRS and 20 flavors of GAAP

Look what they paid for brain Paulson, of course we were going down most likely due to the price of war and Bush making it easier to buy a home with no money down. They want the smartest and the best:


In 1989, the government created a one-time loophole for a handful of high level positions that would help attract highly talented professionals away from the private sector. This loophole gives the candidate the ability to liquidate his or her entire portfolio without paying a dime in capital gains taxes. For someone like Henry Paulson, whose entire $500 million portfolio would have otherwise been subject to full taxation, that represented a very attractive opportunity. This is the only reason someone would agree to forfeit a glamorous $40 million a year job in order to make $183,000. Past public servants who took the government up on this loophole include Donald Rumsfeld and Colin Powell. The loophole only applies for people in the Executive Branch. That means President, Vice President and cabinet Secretaries. Senators and congressman do not qualify. Candidates either need to apply to qualify with the I.R.S. after the fact, or Congress will require the liquidation in advance for certain people and postions. Clearly Henry Paulson's ownership of 1% of the world's largest investment bank would represent a clear conflict of interest as Secretary of Treasury, so qualification was a no-brainer.

In July 2006, Henry Paulson liquidated 3.23 million shares of Goldman, roughly 1% of the entire company, in a one time public sale. Goldman's $152 share price left Paulson with a tax free gain of $491 million. Let that sink in. $491 million free an clear. Without this loophole, had Henry sold his shares at the exact same price and time, he would have been liable for more than $200 million worth of state and Federal capital gains taxes.

The $200 Million Reason Henry Paulson Became Treasury Secretary

By Brian Warner on July 14, 2014 in ArticlesEntertainment

The $200 Million Reason Henry Paulson Became Treasury Secretary
Capital gains tax is a fallacy, The federal government has no moral claim to perceived taxes

How can they be "perceived" of they are only levied on REALIZED gains?
A tax cut should be the natural evolution of a country...
 

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