The Data Proves It A Scam

[danielpalos]

Right wingers can't explain a world wide scam. If we follow the money, who is getting the most profit from Capitalism?

 

[jbrownson0831]

Right wingers can't explain a world wide scam. If we follow the money, who is getting the most profit from Capitalism?

Waah waah...boo hooo....and remember libber, the top one percenters are almost all Dems.

 

[Slade3200]

A successful one, but a scam.

The Wuhan Red Death is simply one more seasonal flu, dressed up to be a weapon against Trump. True story. Individuals die from it at the same rate they died from the seasonal flu, and for the very same reasons: they already had debilitating and fatal conditions.

I will provide the numbers and comparisons that prove...PROVE.....the premise.



1.It was the most successful theft of a country without the firing of a shot. Let the facts reveal the truth about the Wuhan Red Death: I’ll provide ‘em, you see if you can deny ‘em.

2. First, the hermeneutic key to use with every item below, to unlock the truth. The key is the list of lies that the same movers in every scheme up to the Wuhan: First collusion, collusion, collusion, Russia, Russia, Russia, Obstruction, Obstruction, Obstruction. Racist, Racist, Racist, Impeach, Impeach, Impeach, Recession, Recession, Recession, Emoluments, 25th amendment, Stormy Daniels, lies about Charlottesville fine Nazis, Kurds, Ukraine, Quid Pro Quo, ‘lynching,’ the GAO charges, Lev Parnas, impeachment, General Flynn perjury trap, no evidence of voter fraud in the stolen election.....

The same people who perpetrated the Chinavirus hoax have a long history same of lies, scams and hoaxes. If you fell for all of the previous ones....says a whole lot about you.

Remember that when you view the following.





2. If you are unfamiliar with the numbers related to deaths, they can scare you with any one they make up.

When you see that hundreds of thousands number, remember that 3 million Americans die from all sorts of things annually, and that the most significant numbers occur from these causes: heart disease, respiratory diseases, influenza and pneumonia. Never the flu alone!!!!

But suddenly, the numbers of deaths due to these causes has fallen….with no requisite medical advances to account for the drop….and just as suddenly the number of fewer deaths from these causes, happens be the same attributed to the Wuhan.



“COVID-19 should be reported on the death certificate for all decedents where the disease caused or is assumed to have caused or contributed to death. Certifiers should include as much detail as possible based on their knowledge of the case, medical records, laboratory testing, etc.,” the guidance continued.
“If the decedent had other chronic conditions such as COPD or asthma that may have also contributed, these conditions can be reported in Part II.”
Is The Number of Deaths Due To COVID-19 Being Inflated, And, If So, Why? | NewsRadio 740 KTRH | Michael Berry


No matter the actual cause........it's the Chinavirus!


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3. A startling coincidence…..the reductions in reported deaths due to the four usual causes just happen to be the number now reported due to the Chinese flu, and patients with those conditions just happened to have DNRs (do not resuscitate), and would have died with or without the virus.


A do-not-resuscitate order, or DNR order, is a medical order written by a doctor. It instructs health care providers not to do cardiopulmonary resuscitation (CPR) if a patient's breathing stops or if the patient's heart stops beating.
Do-not-resuscitate order: MedlinePlus Medical Encyclopedia


And they didn't just have their DNR prepared for the Wuhan.

Only true narcissists believe that the entire world would conspire against them or our President in this case. Tank their economies just to play politics. That is the dumbest theory I’ve heard yet. Take your head out of your butt lady

Gads, you're a moron.


.....one more thing one should always use in considering any event or issue: Antonio Gramsci, Italian Marxist theoretician and founding member and one-time leader of the Communist Party of Italy. Gramsci’s motto is that of liberals today: “that all life is "political."

why would I give a shit about what Antonio Gransci said?! I’m sure at some point he said “Damn, that fart stinks!” I’m sure you’d likely agree with that. Doesn’t make you a Marxist

No vulgarity. Post as though you were an adult, no matter how wounded you are by the truth.

Oh my bad... here you go.


why would I care about what Antonio Gransci said?! I’m sure at some point he said “Dang, that flatulence stinks!” I’m sure you’d likely agree with that. Doesn’t make you a Marxist

 

[danielpalos]

Right wingers can't explain a world wide scam. If we follow the money, who is getting the most profit from Capitalism?

Waah waah...boo hooo....and remember libber, the top one percenters are almost all Dems.

Don't really believe in Capitalism, right winger?

Or, Capitalism, what is That sayeth the Right Wing when not in socialism threads.

 

[Cecilie1200]

You're denying that he fell off a ten foot ladder?

He did. How do you know that killer him?

Here's a clue, Einstein....



According to the World Health Organization, the United States leads the world in ladder deaths. Each year, there are more than 164,000 emergency room-treated injuries and 300 deaths in the U.S. that are caused by falls from ladders.
Ladder Safety - InterNACHI®

OMG if these people would have been wearing masks they wouldn't have fallen from those ladders!!!!

In fairness.....had he stayed six feet from the ladder, he wouldn't have either.

Yeah, but even Dr. Fauci hasn't been recommending social distancing from ladders.

 

[jbrownson0831]

Right wingers can't explain a world wide scam. If we follow the money, who is getting the most profit from Capitalism?

Waah waah...boo hooo....and remember libber, the top one percenters are almost all Dems.

Don't really believe in Capitalism, right winger?

Or, Capitalism, what is That sayeth the Right Wing when not in socialism threads.

Huh? Are you snorting Sleepy Joe's used Depends again???

 

[colfax_m]

You're denying that he fell off a ten foot ladder?

He did. How do you know that killer him?

Here's a clue, Einstein....



According to the World Health Organization, the United States leads the world in ladder deaths. Each year, there are more than 164,000 emergency room-treated injuries and 300 deaths in the U.S. that are caused by falls from ladders.
Ladder Safety - InterNACHI®

OMG if these people would have been wearing masks they wouldn't have fallen from those ladders!!!!

In fairness.....had he stayed six feet from the ladder, he wouldn't have either.

Yeah, but even Dr. Fauci hasn't been recommending social distancing from ladders.

Truly, why you idiots act like experts despite your refusal to ever learn anything is mystifying.

 

[jbrownson0831]

You're denying that he fell off a ten foot ladder?

He did. How do you know that killer him?

Here's a clue, Einstein....



According to the World Health Organization, the United States leads the world in ladder deaths. Each year, there are more than 164,000 emergency room-treated injuries and 300 deaths in the U.S. that are caused by falls from ladders.
Ladder Safety - InterNACHI®

OMG if these people would have been wearing masks they wouldn't have fallen from those ladders!!!!

In fairness.....had he stayed six feet from the ladder, he wouldn't have either.

Yeah, but even Dr. Fauci hasn't been recommending social distancing from ladders.

Give him a minute he will change his mind.

 

[Cecilie1200]

See if this helps:

It doesn’t. The article doesn’t explain at all why they think he died from falling off a ladder.

Why do you think the fall killed him?

Explaining this scam to you, again, would be like putting an elevator in an out-house.
I'm more than copacetic with allowing readers to look at individual posts and draw their won conclusions.

You cannot explain facts to liberals, its like throwing water on the Wicked Witch of the West.

And we can't do that why?

 

[Rigby5]

between 50 and 65, 99.5%

This man was 51. His chance of dying from COVID was, based on your numbers, 0.5%. Chances of dying from falling off a ladder is less than half of that.

So how do you know he died from falling off a ladder?

The lung damage you described would have been very painful and debilitating.
He would have been in bed.
What the autopsy found was likely old damage, not current.
Hypoxia is not instantaneous.
If he started feeling faint from lack of oxygen, he would have stopped moving or come down off the ladder.
Heart attack from hypoxia should have shown up in the autopsy I think?
When I get hypoxia, I can tell long ahead of time, and my vision goes before anything else significant.
That just does not fit with a fall from a ladder.

People are different. You wouldn’t believe what some people are willing to push through. I’m not saying it was instantaneous but doing something strenuous like walking up a ladder may have been sufficient to push him over the edge.

The damage was acute and extensive. There was no heart attack but he did have significant coronary disease. A cardiac arrest doesn’t show any findings on autopsy.

I don't know enough to say, but I would suspect any unconsciousness caused by heart attack or cardiac arrest should show something?
Maybe bluing, lack of oxygen in the blood by comparing hemoglobin in veins vs arteries, pupil dilation,, etc.?
Not impossible, but a stretch for an autopsy to mention covid-19.

 

[colfax_m]

between 50 and 65, 99.5%

This man was 51. His chance of dying from COVID was, based on your numbers, 0.5%. Chances of dying from falling off a ladder is less than half of that.

So how do you know he died from falling off a ladder?

The lung damage you described would have been very painful and debilitating.
He would have been in bed.
What the autopsy found was likely old damage, not current.
Hypoxia is not instantaneous.
If he started feeling faint from lack of oxygen, he would have stopped moving or come down off the ladder.
Heart attack from hypoxia should have shown up in the autopsy I think?
When I get hypoxia, I can tell long ahead of time, and my vision goes before anything else significant.
That just does not fit with a fall from a ladder.

People are different. You wouldn’t believe what some people are willing to push through. I’m not saying it was instantaneous but doing something strenuous like walking up a ladder may have been sufficient to push him over the edge.

The damage was acute and extensive. There was no heart attack but he did have significant coronary disease. A cardiac arrest doesn’t show any findings on autopsy.

I don't know enough to say, but I would suspect any unconsciousness caused by heart attack or cardiac arrest should show something?
Maybe bluing, lack of oxygen in the blood by comparing hemoglobin in veins vs arteries, pupil dilation,, etc.?
Not impossible, but a stretch for an autopsy to mention covid-19.

Yes, indeed it did show hypoxic changes in the liver and kidneys.

The autopsy mentioned COVID because the findings of severe respiratory disease that were consistent with a severe case of COVID that we know he had.

 

[PoliticalChic]

See if this helps:

It doesn’t. The article doesn’t explain at all why they think he died from falling off a ladder.

Why do you think the fall killed him?

Explaining this scam to you, again, would be like putting an elevator in an out-house.
I'm more than copacetic with allowing readers to look at individual posts and draw their won conclusions.

You haven’t explained anything.

Why do you think that that fall from the ladder killed him? Did he have injuries consistent with death from the fall?

No. He didn’t.

But you didn’t know that because you’re too arrogant to ever listen to anyone else.

Explain what????

I merely posted proof that I am right and you, wrong.

Live with it.




Arrogant???? Moi?????
What the world needs is more geniuses with humility, there are so few of us left.

 

[Rigby5]

But the point is a person with a fever, coughing, etc., is not likely to try anything with a ladder.
Its a real stretch to claim covid caused the fall.

Hypoxia can cause a cardiac arrest.

People with illnesses do some crazy things. Not the weirdest thing I’ve ever seen. What is 100% clear is that he didn’t die from trauma. To say it wasn’t related to COVID which he had a severe case of is a stretch.

The lung fibrosis indicated the covid-19 infection was past tense.
A conscious person can compensate for lung damage by breathing faster and harder.
It should not cause hypoxia in a conscious person.
And it should have been more noticeable to the person as he was carrying the ladder and setting it up, than climbing it.
With the micro blood clots covid can cause, it is not impossible, but not really appropriate for an autopsy conclusion.

 

[PoliticalChic]

You're denying that he fell off a ten foot ladder?

He did. How do you know that killer him?

Here's a clue, Einstein....



According to the World Health Organization, the United States leads the world in ladder deaths. Each year, there are more than 164,000 emergency room-treated injuries and 300 deaths in the U.S. that are caused by falls from ladders.
Ladder Safety - InterNACHI®

OMG if these people would have been wearing masks they wouldn't have fallen from those ladders!!!!

In fairness.....had he stayed six feet from the ladder, he wouldn't have either.

Yeah, but even Dr. Fauci hasn't been recommending social distancing from ladders.

.........yet.

 

[Cecilie1200]

You're denying that he fell off a ten foot ladder?

He did. How do you know that killer him?

Here's a clue, Einstein....



According to the World Health Organization, the United States leads the world in ladder deaths. Each year, there are more than 164,000 emergency room-treated injuries and 300 deaths in the U.S. that are caused by falls from ladders.
Ladder Safety - InterNACHI®

OMG if these people would have been wearing masks they wouldn't have fallen from those ladders!!!!

In fairness.....had he stayed six feet from the ladder, he wouldn't have either.

Yeah, but even Dr. Fauci hasn't been recommending social distancing from ladders.

Give him a minute he will change his mind.

Hey, they wouldn't want to run out of things to shut down and micromanage.

 

[Cecilie1200]

You're denying that he fell off a ten foot ladder?

He did. How do you know that killer him?

Here's a clue, Einstein....



According to the World Health Organization, the United States leads the world in ladder deaths. Each year, there are more than 164,000 emergency room-treated injuries and 300 deaths in the U.S. that are caused by falls from ladders.
Ladder Safety - InterNACHI®

OMG if these people would have been wearing masks they wouldn't have fallen from those ladders!!!!

In fairness.....had he stayed six feet from the ladder, he wouldn't have either.

Yeah, but even Dr. Fauci hasn't been recommending social distancing from ladders.

.........yet.

The instant people start climbing ladders for fun or profit, he'll decide it's an infection risk.

 

[PoliticalChic]

You're denying that he fell off a ten foot ladder?

He did. How do you know that killer him?

Here's a clue, Einstein....



According to the World Health Organization, the United States leads the world in ladder deaths. Each year, there are more than 164,000 emergency room-treated injuries and 300 deaths in the U.S. that are caused by falls from ladders.
Ladder Safety - InterNACHI®

OMG if these people would have been wearing masks they wouldn't have fallen from those ladders!!!!

In fairness.....had he stayed six feet from the ladder, he wouldn't have either.

Yeah, but even Dr. Fauci hasn't been recommending social distancing from ladders.

.........yet.

The instant people start climbing ladders for fun or profit, he'll decide it's an infection risk.

Put it away.....quick.......here comes Fauci!!!!

 

[bripat9643]

But the point is a person with a fever, coughing, etc., is not likely to try anything with a ladder.
Its a real stretch to claim covid caused the fall.

Hypoxia can cause a cardiac arrest.

People with illnesses do some crazy things. Not the weirdest thing I’ve ever seen. What is 100% clear is that he didn’t die from trauma. To say it wasn’t related to COVID which he had a severe case of is a stretch.

The lung fibrosis indicated the covid-19 infection was past tense.
A conscious person can compensate for lung damage by breathing faster and harder.
It should not cause hypoxia in a conscious person.
And it should have been more noticeable to the person as he was carrying the ladder and setting it up, than climbing it.
With the micro blood clots covid can cause, it is not impossible, but not really appropriate for an autopsy conclusion.

 

[colfax_m]

I merely posted proof that I am right and you, wrong.

The man did not die from falling off a ladder. The autopsy did not show injuries consistent with this.

From the doctors who performed his autopsy:
“Traumatic findings suitable to explain sudden death were absent.”

Accidental death from a fall from height at workplace turned out to be a COVID-19 death

Coronavirus 2019 disease (COVID-19) has rapidly evolved into a pandemic during the first months of 2020. The general extent of organ involvement, as w…

www.sciencedirect.com

So who exactly should I believe? You?

 

[Rigby5]

See if this helps:

It doesn’t. The article doesn’t explain at all why they think he died from falling off a ladder.

Why do you think the fall killed him?

Explaining this scam to you, again, would be like putting an elevator in an out-house.
I'm more than copacetic with allowing readers to look at individual posts and draw their won conclusions.

You haven’t explained anything.

Why do you think that that fall from the ladder killed him? Did he have injuries consistent with death from the fall?

No. He didn’t.

But you didn’t know that because you’re too arrogant to ever listen to anyone else.

Explain what????

I merely posted proof that I am right and you, wrong.

Live with it.

Arrogant???? Moi?????
What the world needs is more geniuses with humility, there are so few of us left.

We happen to be on the same side with this one, but you would be more successful in convincing people if you were less obviously prejudiced in your view.
Very little is totally black and white, so it does not hurt to admit there is potential for grey areas.
You should be arguing what is most likely, not as if it were an absolute you had secret inside information on.
The point of discussion is to find mistakes in each other's preconceptions, not just beat something to death.