The definitive guide to the 2nd Amendment

[ScienceRocks]

Hey Patriot,
When will I have the right to have a machine gun and a tank?

 

[2aguy]

Awful...thanks to failed progressive policy. They banned firearms. How is that working out?

They have concealed carry moron. And crime is going up.

Wrong...dipstick....law abiding people carrying their legal guns is not driving the crime rate anywhere in the country, not even in Wisconsin...

Milwaukee drives the gun crime rate in Wisconsin...because their democrat mayor is mishandling the police..but even so.....it is lower than it was before they had concealed carry.....moron..

Wisconsin 2016.......

As another violent year ends, memories of homicide victims live on

Milwaukee's per capita homicide rate was 23.7 per 100,000 residents — a lower rate than the 26.27 per 100,000 residents in 1991.


“You’re seeing a rebirth:” Crime rates in Milwaukee’s Amani neighborhood down significantly

The data shows crime in 2016 compared with 2015 was down in the Amani neighborhood by 10.42%. For the city as a whole, the decline was 4.66%.

---

Over the past four years: crime in the Amani neighborhood declined 26.36% -- for the city: 10.86%.

Crime in Milwaukee has increased since getting concealed carry.

No....as you can see from the link, it is lower than it was in 1991.....and the homicide rate is being driven by bad policing from bad democrat leadership....moron....just like Chicago........

Baltimore has extreme gun control......everything you morons want...from magazine bans to assault weapon bans, finger printing law abiding gun owners to waiting periods.........and a higher murder number than Milwaukee.....moron....

Moron....Baltimore has f

Murder rate 2017
Baltimore......343
Population of cities 2016:


Baltimore......620,961

Milwaukee.....595,647



Murder rate 2016:


Baltimore......318

Milwaukee.... 142

They didn't get concealed carry in 1991.

And yet their homicide rate in 2016 is lower than it was in 1991.......after they got concealed carry.....moron.

 

[2aguy]

IDGAF if it decreases crime and I never claimed it did but you have not proven in any way shape or form that concealed carry is a direct cause of the increased crime rates have you?

Concealed carry is at its highest and violent crime went up. Clearly it does not decrease crime.

Crime has increased in WI every year since they got concealed carry.

Moron....

As another violent year ends, memories of homicide victims live on

Milwaukee's per capita homicide rate was 23.7 per 100,000 residents — a lower rate than the 26.27 per 100,000 residents in 1991.

Crime has increased every year since getting concealed carry.

The link shows you don't know what you are saying......23.7 per 100,000 is lower than 26.27 in 1991 dumb ass....

We were discussing WI.

And Milwaukee drives their homicide rate....moron.

 

[Brain357]

They have concealed carry moron. And crime is going up.

Wrong...dipstick....law abiding people carrying their legal guns is not driving the crime rate anywhere in the country, not even in Wisconsin...

Milwaukee drives the gun crime rate in Wisconsin...because their democrat mayor is mishandling the police..but even so.....it is lower than it was before they had concealed carry.....moron..

Wisconsin 2016.......

As another violent year ends, memories of homicide victims live on

Milwaukee's per capita homicide rate was 23.7 per 100,000 residents — a lower rate than the 26.27 per 100,000 residents in 1991.


“You’re seeing a rebirth:” Crime rates in Milwaukee’s Amani neighborhood down significantly

The data shows crime in 2016 compared with 2015 was down in the Amani neighborhood by 10.42%. For the city as a whole, the decline was 4.66%.

---

Over the past four years: crime in the Amani neighborhood declined 26.36% -- for the city: 10.86%.

Crime in Milwaukee has increased since getting concealed carry.

No....as you can see from the link, it is lower than it was in 1991.....and the homicide rate is being driven by bad policing from bad democrat leadership....moron....just like Chicago........

Baltimore has extreme gun control......everything you morons want...from magazine bans to assault weapon bans, finger printing law abiding gun owners to waiting periods.........and a higher murder number than Milwaukee.....moron....

Moron....Baltimore has f

Murder rate 2017
Baltimore......343
Population of cities 2016:


Baltimore......620,961

Milwaukee.....595,647



Murder rate 2016:


Baltimore......318

Milwaukee.... 142

They didn't get concealed carry in 1991.

And yet their homicide rate in 2016 is lower than it was in 1991.......after they got concealed carry.....moron.

They got concealed carry in 2011, and crime has increased every year since.

 

[Brain357]

Concealed carry is at its highest and violent crime went up. Clearly it does not decrease crime.

Crime has increased in WI every year since they got concealed carry.

Moron....

As another violent year ends, memories of homicide victims live on

Milwaukee's per capita homicide rate was 23.7 per 100,000 residents — a lower rate than the 26.27 per 100,000 residents in 1991.

Crime has increased every year since getting concealed carry.

The link shows you don't know what you are saying......23.7 per 100,000 is lower than 26.27 in 1991 dumb ass....

We were discussing WI.

And Milwaukee drives their homicide rate....moron.

And Milwaukee has concealed carry...moron.

 

[2aguy]

Awful...thanks to failed progressive policy. They banned firearms. How is that working out?

They have concealed carry moron. And crime is going up.

Wrong...dipstick....law abiding people carrying their legal guns is not driving the crime rate anywhere in the country, not even in Wisconsin...

Milwaukee drives the gun crime rate in Wisconsin...because their democrat mayor is mishandling the police..but even so.....it is lower than it was before they had concealed carry.....moron..

Wisconsin 2016.......

As another violent year ends, memories of homicide victims live on

Milwaukee's per capita homicide rate was 23.7 per 100,000 residents — a lower rate than the 26.27 per 100,000 residents in 1991.


“You’re seeing a rebirth:” Crime rates in Milwaukee’s Amani neighborhood down significantly

The data shows crime in 2016 compared with 2015 was down in the Amani neighborhood by 10.42%. For the city as a whole, the decline was 4.66%.

---

Over the past four years: crime in the Amani neighborhood declined 26.36% -- for the city: 10.86%.

Crime in Milwaukee has increased since getting concealed carry.

Moron...please.....try to actually tell the truth once in a while.......

The Ferguson effect...again....notice the year...2015....

Sheriff shreds anti-gun mayor’s excuse for crime spree



Clarke, who still lives in the city, points out that while the number of homicides in Milwaukee has shot up this year over last, one must look at a larger sample of data, not just this year over last, to get an accurate picture.

That’s because last year was a particularly safe year in Milwaukee. Homicides were down 14 percent from the year before.

“The holes in that argument are obvious. First of all, there’s an ebb and flow to crime,” Clarke told WND. “You’ll see a high period followed by a low period, and a low period will often be followed by a high. But some things remain constant, and one is the availability of guns.”

How to explain a broader drop in homicides?

So the data would appear to support Clarke’s thesis that the cause of any recent blip in violent crime is more complex than the availability of guns.

“If you look at the data, over the years violent crime has fallen, and there are more guns on the street.

But nobody ever asks Chief Flynn why there has been an increase in guns while the number of homicides went down; why is that?” Clarke asked. “You won’t see that question asked, because the media here are willing accomplices in perpetrating that myth that guns cause violence.”

Yes Ferguson happened because we have too many guns. People aren't regularly shot by police in countries with strong gun control.

Moron....what does the fact that more law abiding people are carrying guns have anything to do with Ferguson...where a teenage, black thug tired to grab the gun of a police officer, violently assaulted the police officer and then had to be shot by the police officer when the thug refused to stop attacking the officer?

 

[2aguy]

Moron....

As another violent year ends, memories of homicide victims live on

Milwaukee's per capita homicide rate was 23.7 per 100,000 residents — a lower rate than the 26.27 per 100,000 residents in 1991.

Crime has increased every year since getting concealed carry.

The link shows you don't know what you are saying......23.7 per 100,000 is lower than 26.27 in 1991 dumb ass....

We were discussing WI.

And Milwaukee drives their homicide rate....moron.

And Milwaukee has concealed carry...moron.

People with concealed carry permits aren't doing the shooting asswipe.....the ones doing the shooting can't buy, own or carry any gun...at all......moron.

 

[Brain357]

They have concealed carry moron. And crime is going up.

Wrong...dipstick....law abiding people carrying their legal guns is not driving the crime rate anywhere in the country, not even in Wisconsin...

Milwaukee drives the gun crime rate in Wisconsin...because their democrat mayor is mishandling the police..but even so.....it is lower than it was before they had concealed carry.....moron..

Wisconsin 2016.......

As another violent year ends, memories of homicide victims live on

Milwaukee's per capita homicide rate was 23.7 per 100,000 residents — a lower rate than the 26.27 per 100,000 residents in 1991.


“You’re seeing a rebirth:” Crime rates in Milwaukee’s Amani neighborhood down significantly

The data shows crime in 2016 compared with 2015 was down in the Amani neighborhood by 10.42%. For the city as a whole, the decline was 4.66%.

---

Over the past four years: crime in the Amani neighborhood declined 26.36% -- for the city: 10.86%.

Crime in Milwaukee has increased since getting concealed carry.

Moron...please.....try to actually tell the truth once in a while.......

The Ferguson effect...again....notice the year...2015....

Sheriff shreds anti-gun mayor’s excuse for crime spree



Clarke, who still lives in the city, points out that while the number of homicides in Milwaukee has shot up this year over last, one must look at a larger sample of data, not just this year over last, to get an accurate picture.

That’s because last year was a particularly safe year in Milwaukee. Homicides were down 14 percent from the year before.

“The holes in that argument are obvious. First of all, there’s an ebb and flow to crime,” Clarke told WND. “You’ll see a high period followed by a low period, and a low period will often be followed by a high. But some things remain constant, and one is the availability of guns.”

How to explain a broader drop in homicides?

So the data would appear to support Clarke’s thesis that the cause of any recent blip in violent crime is more complex than the availability of guns.

“If you look at the data, over the years violent crime has fallen, and there are more guns on the street.

But nobody ever asks Chief Flynn why there has been an increase in guns while the number of homicides went down; why is that?” Clarke asked. “You won’t see that question asked, because the media here are willing accomplices in perpetrating that myth that guns cause violence.”

Yes Ferguson happened because we have too many guns. People aren't regularly shot by police in countries with strong gun control.

Moron....what does the fact that more law abiding people are carrying guns have anything to do with Ferguson...where a teenage, black thug tired to grab the gun of a police officer, violently assaulted the police officer and then had to be shot by the police officer when the thug refused to stop attacking the officer?

Police in this country shoot a lot of people, way more than in any country with strong gun control. This is because we have too many guns. Because of all these shootings, we had Ferguson.

 

[Brain357]

Crime has increased every year since getting concealed carry.

The link shows you don't know what you are saying......23.7 per 100,000 is lower than 26.27 in 1991 dumb ass....

We were discussing WI.

And Milwaukee drives their homicide rate....moron.

And Milwaukee has concealed carry...moron.

People with concealed carry permits aren't doing the shooting asswipe.....the ones doing the shooting can't buy, own or carry any gun...at all......moron.

Crime has increased every year in WI since they got concealed carry.

 

[2aguy]

Wrong...dipstick....law abiding people carrying their legal guns is not driving the crime rate anywhere in the country, not even in Wisconsin...

Milwaukee drives the gun crime rate in Wisconsin...because their democrat mayor is mishandling the police..but even so.....it is lower than it was before they had concealed carry.....moron..

Wisconsin 2016.......

As another violent year ends, memories of homicide victims live on

Milwaukee's per capita homicide rate was 23.7 per 100,000 residents — a lower rate than the 26.27 per 100,000 residents in 1991.


“You’re seeing a rebirth:” Crime rates in Milwaukee’s Amani neighborhood down significantly

The data shows crime in 2016 compared with 2015 was down in the Amani neighborhood by 10.42%. For the city as a whole, the decline was 4.66%.

---

Over the past four years: crime in the Amani neighborhood declined 26.36% -- for the city: 10.86%.

Crime in Milwaukee has increased since getting concealed carry.

Moron...please.....try to actually tell the truth once in a while.......

The Ferguson effect...again....notice the year...2015....

Sheriff shreds anti-gun mayor’s excuse for crime spree



Clarke, who still lives in the city, points out that while the number of homicides in Milwaukee has shot up this year over last, one must look at a larger sample of data, not just this year over last, to get an accurate picture.

That’s because last year was a particularly safe year in Milwaukee. Homicides were down 14 percent from the year before.

“The holes in that argument are obvious. First of all, there’s an ebb and flow to crime,” Clarke told WND. “You’ll see a high period followed by a low period, and a low period will often be followed by a high. But some things remain constant, and one is the availability of guns.”

How to explain a broader drop in homicides?

So the data would appear to support Clarke’s thesis that the cause of any recent blip in violent crime is more complex than the availability of guns.

“If you look at the data, over the years violent crime has fallen, and there are more guns on the street.

But nobody ever asks Chief Flynn why there has been an increase in guns while the number of homicides went down; why is that?” Clarke asked. “You won’t see that question asked, because the media here are willing accomplices in perpetrating that myth that guns cause violence.”

Yes Ferguson happened because we have too many guns. People aren't regularly shot by police in countries with strong gun control.

Moron....what does the fact that more law abiding people are carrying guns have anything to do with Ferguson...where a teenage, black thug tired to grab the gun of a police officer, violently assaulted the police officer and then had to be shot by the police officer when the thug refused to stop attacking the officer?

Police in this country shoot a lot of people, way more than in any country with strong gun control. This is because we have too many guns. Because of all these shootings, we had Ferguson.

Wow...that is really stupid.....criminals in this country get shot because the don't comply with police, then try to attack them.....the criminals in Britain have, in the past, been respectful with police, that is now changing...

 

[Brain357]

Crime in Milwaukee has increased since getting concealed carry.

Moron...please.....try to actually tell the truth once in a while.......

The Ferguson effect...again....notice the year...2015....

Sheriff shreds anti-gun mayor’s excuse for crime spree



Clarke, who still lives in the city, points out that while the number of homicides in Milwaukee has shot up this year over last, one must look at a larger sample of data, not just this year over last, to get an accurate picture.

That’s because last year was a particularly safe year in Milwaukee. Homicides were down 14 percent from the year before.

“The holes in that argument are obvious. First of all, there’s an ebb and flow to crime,” Clarke told WND. “You’ll see a high period followed by a low period, and a low period will often be followed by a high. But some things remain constant, and one is the availability of guns.”

How to explain a broader drop in homicides?

So the data would appear to support Clarke’s thesis that the cause of any recent blip in violent crime is more complex than the availability of guns.

“If you look at the data, over the years violent crime has fallen, and there are more guns on the street.

But nobody ever asks Chief Flynn why there has been an increase in guns while the number of homicides went down; why is that?” Clarke asked. “You won’t see that question asked, because the media here are willing accomplices in perpetrating that myth that guns cause violence.”

Yes Ferguson happened because we have too many guns. People aren't regularly shot by police in countries with strong gun control.

Moron....what does the fact that more law abiding people are carrying guns have anything to do with Ferguson...where a teenage, black thug tired to grab the gun of a police officer, violently assaulted the police officer and then had to be shot by the police officer when the thug refused to stop attacking the officer?

Police in this country shoot a lot of people, way more than in any country with strong gun control. This is because we have too many guns. Because of all these shootings, we had Ferguson.

Wow...that is really stupid.....criminals in this country get shot because the don't comply with police, then try to attack them.....the criminals in Britain have, in the past, been respectful with police, that is now changing...

In other countries police don't need to shoot people all the time. Shooting people removes officers from the streets. This increases crime. Police get shot and killed here regularly. This also removes officers from the streets. Police are very rarely shot and killed in countries with strong gun control. Look at today. Thanks to your policies this is common.
Officer killed, two deputies seriously wounded in Georgia shooting

 

[P@triot]

Funny how CCW permit holders in my area of the state are many and we have a nearly zero crime rate

It’s actually not funny at all. It’s simply reality. Something Brain357 - like all lefties - can’t bring himself to accept.

 

[P@triot]

Well regulated militia are declared necessary to the security of a free State.

Pretending like you’ve ever actually read the U.S. Constitution is necessary for you to convince yourself you have credibility.

The right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed

The right belongs to the people, snowflake. Not to a militia.

 

[P@triot]

Hey Patriot,
When will I have the right to have a machine gun and a tank?

You already have the right to own both. And people do. I personally have friends with fully automatic weapons (one has a Tommy Gun, another has an Uzi). And people do in fact own tanks (I don’t have any friends that own them - but people do).

You should really educate yourself about a subject before commenting on it.

 

[P@triot]

Because of all these shootings, we had Ferguson.

What a bizarre (not to mention, idiotic), thing to say. Firearms didn’t cause Ferguson. A left-wing thug stealing from a store, then assaulting an unarmed man, caused Ferguson. Makes one wonder why Brainless is so desperate to disarm everyone. That’s the #1 goal of all thugs.

 

[Daryl Hunt]

How is IL and Chicago doing?

Awful...thanks to failed progressive policy. They banned firearms. How is that working out?

They have concealed carry moron. And crime is going up.

Wrong...dipstick....law abiding people carrying their legal guns is not driving the crime rate anywhere in the country, not even in Wisconsin...

Milwaukee drives the gun crime rate in Wisconsin...because their democrat mayor is mishandling the police..but even so.....it is lower than it was before they had concealed carry.....moron..

Wisconsin 2016.......

As another violent year ends, memories of homicide victims live on

Milwaukee's per capita homicide rate was 23.7 per 100,000 residents — a lower rate than the 26.27 per 100,000 residents in 1991.


“You’re seeing a rebirth:” Crime rates in Milwaukee’s Amani neighborhood down significantly

The data shows crime in 2016 compared with 2015 was down in the Amani neighborhood by 10.42%. For the city as a whole, the decline was 4.66%.

---

Over the past four years: crime in the Amani neighborhood declined 26.36% -- for the city: 10.86%.

Crime in Milwaukee has increased since getting concealed carry.

so what?

5 years of concealed carry: Law obscures impact

“It’s hard to create any kind of causal relationship between the law and what’s happening because we aren’t able to look specifically at the individuals who have been carrying concealed weapons,” said Jeri Bonavia, executive director of the Wisconsin Anti-Violence Effort. “When someone commits a murder, when a man shoots his wife and his kids, when shots are fired in road rage — is that person a concealed carry permit holder? We don’t know, because the law prevents us from having that information.”

so we have even more evidence that your correlation of concealed carry and crime is dubious at best

Here's a little more just for fun

“The story kind of is that there is no story,” Attorney General Brad Schimel said. “I’m not aware of evidence of statistical significance that there are people who gain a permit who are committing crime with guns … and there’s not a lot of evidence of people using guns to protect themselves or others.”

Crime stats show little change

About 320,000 Wisconsinites now have a concealed carry permit, and police outside of Milwaukee say they have seen little impact for better or worse.

“We only give permits to people who are law-abiding, who have no record of anything that disqualifies them from seeking that firearm, and those people don’t tend to commit crimes with the guns,” Schimel said.

Statewide, firearm injuries per capita rose slightly to an average of 513 after the passage of concealed carry, according to National Vital Statistics Reports from the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services.

But that was consistent with growth in the national average, and Wisconsin’s ranking relative to the rest of the country actually dropped by one over that period.

Changes in violent crime (a category that includes murder, rape, robbery and aggravated assault) also tracked exactly with national trends, according to the FBI’s Uniform Crime Report.

Homicides in Wisconsin have been generally consistent as well. The 71 counties excluding Milwaukee County averaged a total of 37 homicides per year in the four years before 2011 and the four years after.

Milwaukee County has been a different story, seeing the number of homicides jump from an average of 68 in the four years before concealed carry to 94 in the four years after, according to death certificate tallies from the Wisconsin Department of Health Services. That spike continued this year.

James Palmer, executive director of the 10,000-member Wisconsin Professional Police Association, said he doesn’t see any connection between crime stats and the advent of concealed carry.

“Any fluctuations in crime, increase or otherwise, involve individuals utilizing guns who don’t have the lawful ability to do so,” he said.

It's fairly easy to get a Concealed Weapons Permit. But when you look at what you are agreeing to, it makes you think twice or three times before you pull it. If you pull your weapon at the wrong time or conditions, you may be doing a stint in prison. If it's deemed life threatening when you do, no problem. If there was another way or it would endanger those around you then pack your bag, you are going away for awhile. Mine stays put at the house even though I can easily get a concealed weapons permit.

You are right, normally, a Concealed Carry Person is the least likely to commit a gun crime. He knows the law and pulling that gun or even showing it would constitute a crime. It's better to not show it and make the bad guys have to wonder whom is armed and who isn't. I don't care for the Open Carry. If I were a bad guy, that's the first fool that gets the first round and since I have already committed murder, let's take out a few that are not armed.

 

[Daryl Hunt]

Because of all these shootings, we had Ferguson.

What a bizarre (not to mention, idiotic), thing to say. Firearms didn’t cause Ferguson. A left-wing thug stealing from a store, then assaulting an unarmed man, caused Ferguson. Makes one wonder why Brainless is so desperate to disarm everyone. That’s the #1 goal of all thugs.

Criminals are neither Right or Left. They are criminals. If they are in a Liberal area, they will claim to be Liberals. If they are in a Right Wing area, they will claim to be Right Wing. They claim to be whatever suits their needs to the most. And to assume all criminals are one or the other is just stupid.

Tell me, if a Right Winger decides to murder someone, when does he change to being a Liberal? He's a RWer when he left the house. He was a RWer when he reached for his Weapon. Does he magically change his thought pattern from Right to Left when he pulls the trigger?

 

[Daryl Hunt]

Hey Patriot,
When will I have the right to have a machine gun and a tank?

Here are the restrictions from owning a Machine Gun
is a felon

• is a felon
• has been convicted of any crime punishable by more than a year in prison (whether or not they were ever sentenced to or served a day in prison)
• is under indictment for any crime punishable by more than a year in prison
• is a fugitive
• is an unlawful user of any controlled substance
• has been adjudicated as a mental defective
• has been committed to a mental institution
• is an illegal alien
• has a dishonorable discharge from the military
• has renounced their U.S. citizenship
• is the subject of a restraining order restraining the person from harassing, stalking, or threatening an intimate partner or the child of an intimate partner, or
• who has been convicted of a misdemeanor crime of domestic violence
  

If you are not in the above list, you can apply, pay 200 bucks for the permit and own almost any machine gun made prior to 1986. The State can block you of course. But it's the Federals that issue that permit. There are other things that have to be met like Secure Storage and such. Usually, a good metal Gun Cabinet meets that criteria. And you have to use it responsibly in an authorized area.

As for Tanks, anyone can own a tank. You don't even need a permit to own one if the barrel is blocked. It's considered a SUV. But to have one with a larger than 50 cal bore that is active you will need the initial 200 bucks for the Tank, and additional 200 bucks for each round of ammo. And a place to park it and a State that allows it. Not all states do. But you WILL have to shell out that initial 200 bucks for a permit to buy or possess it even if you don't have any rounds to fire from it.

 

[2aguy]

Moron...please.....try to actually tell the truth once in a while.......

The Ferguson effect...again....notice the year...2015....

Sheriff shreds anti-gun mayor’s excuse for crime spree



Clarke, who still lives in the city, points out that while the number of homicides in Milwaukee has shot up this year over last, one must look at a larger sample of data, not just this year over last, to get an accurate picture.

That’s because last year was a particularly safe year in Milwaukee. Homicides were down 14 percent from the year before.

“The holes in that argument are obvious. First of all, there’s an ebb and flow to crime,” Clarke told WND. “You’ll see a high period followed by a low period, and a low period will often be followed by a high. But some things remain constant, and one is the availability of guns.”

How to explain a broader drop in homicides?

So the data would appear to support Clarke’s thesis that the cause of any recent blip in violent crime is more complex than the availability of guns.

“If you look at the data, over the years violent crime has fallen, and there are more guns on the street.

But nobody ever asks Chief Flynn why there has been an increase in guns while the number of homicides went down; why is that?” Clarke asked. “You won’t see that question asked, because the media here are willing accomplices in perpetrating that myth that guns cause violence.”

Yes Ferguson happened because we have too many guns. People aren't regularly shot by police in countries with strong gun control.

Moron....what does the fact that more law abiding people are carrying guns have anything to do with Ferguson...where a teenage, black thug tired to grab the gun of a police officer, violently assaulted the police officer and then had to be shot by the police officer when the thug refused to stop attacking the officer?

Police in this country shoot a lot of people, way more than in any country with strong gun control. This is because we have too many guns. Because of all these shootings, we had Ferguson.

Wow...that is really stupid.....criminals in this country get shot because the don't comply with police, then try to attack them.....the criminals in Britain have, in the past, been respectful with police, that is now changing...

In other countries police don't need to shoot people all the time. Shooting people removes officers from the streets. This increases crime. Police get shot and killed here regularly. This also removes officers from the streets. Police are very rarely shot and killed in countries with strong gun control. Look at today. Thanks to your policies this is common.
Officer killed, two deputies seriously wounded in Georgia shooting

In other countries, European countries and Japan....the police are not violently attacked the way they are here...that is the culture of the criminal al in action and has nothing to do with guns.....moron.

 

[Skull Pilot]

When was the last time people in England were able to defend themselves? Oops...

Homicide and knife crime rates 'rising'

FBI: Violent crime increases for second straight year

you don't even read the articles you post do you?

"Chicago accounted for more than 20% of the nationwide murder increase in 2016, despite being home to less than 1% of the U.S. population,"

So your "strong gun control" bastion of Chicago accounted for the single largest increase in the national murder rate

Chicago has concealed carry. Hardly strong gun control.

Chicago has some of the strictest gun laws in the country as does CA and the crime rate in UT which has some of the least restrictive gun laws has far less crime than either so it seems your argument is proven wrong yet again

They have concealed carry, that is hardly very strict. You need to think again.

You obviously know absolutely nothing about what it takes in WI or IL to get a concealed carry permit we'll just add that to the gargantuan pile of other things you know absolutely nothing about