The definitive guide to the 2nd Amendment

[P@triot]

You enjoy hearing about children being shot and killed then?

The real question is - why do you want everyone to be disarmed and helpless? It’s only criminals (rapists, muggers, drug dealers) that want law abiding citizens disarmed.

 

[Brain357]

When was the last school shooting in the UK?

When was the last time people in England were able to defend themselves? Oops...

Homicide and knife crime rates 'rising'

Intentional homicide rate:
UK- .92
US- 4.88

They are doing a lot better job of defending themselves than us.
List of countries by intentional homicide rate - Wikipedia

 

[P@triot]

We could save children's lives, but you'd rather cling to your guns like a pussy.

I’d rather protect children by clinging to my constitutional rights so they will still be there for them when they are adults. You’d rather strip them of their constitutional rights because you are a scared little pussy.

 

[P@triot]

They are doing a lot better job of defending themselves than us.

That’s exactly why you should move there, pussy. Clearly liberty is far too scary for you.

 

[Brain357]

You enjoy hearing about children being shot and killed then?

The real question is - why do you want everyone to be disarmed and helpless? It’s only criminals (rapists, muggers, drug dealers) that want law abiding citizens disarmed.

I never carry and am far from helpless. Funny you are so weak. High gun ownership rates guarantee high illegal ownership rates. All you are doing is giving criminals more reason to arm themselves.

 

[Brain357]

We could save children's lives, but you'd rather cling to your guns like a pussy.

I’d rather protect children by clinging to my constitutional rights so they will still be there for them when they are adults. You’d rather strip them of their constitutional rights because you are a scared little pussy.

You are the scared little pussy clinging to your guns while children die. Countries with strong gun control don't have a school shooting problem.

 

[Brain357]

They are doing a lot better job of defending themselves than us.

That’s exactly why you should move there, pussy. Clearly liberty is far too scary for you.

I'm not too scared to go out without a gun. It's clear you are the pussy. You cling to guns while children die. Pathetic.

 

[P@triot]

I never carrying and am far from helpless.

You are completely helpless. I always carry a firearm and never worry about a thing. Have never been mugged, assaulted, etc. and never will be.

 

[P@triot]

I'm not too scared to go out without a gun.

You’re the one crying like a pussy. You’re clearly terrified of firearms. Cuba is waiting for you.

 

[Brain357]

I never carrying and am far from helpless.

You are completely helpless. I always carry a firearm and never worry about a thing. Have never been mugged, assaulted, etc. and never will be.

Yes you are so scared you need to carry a gun everywhere you go. Meanwhile:
School Shooting in Kentucky Was Nation’s 11th of Year. It Was Jan. 23.

 

[Brain357]

I'm not too scared to go out without a gun.

You’re the one crying like a pussy. You’re clearly terrified of firearms. Cuba is waiting for you.

I go out without a gun regularly. It is clear you are the one scared. Clinging to your guns while children die. Pathetic.

 

[P@triot]

You cling to guns while children die.

I cling to my constitutional rights and liberty so that both will be there for those children. It speaks volumes that you want to make sure neither exists for those children. Makes me wonder what you want to do to them when they get older? Rape the girls like Saddam Hussein? Lock up the men like Fidel Castro? Worse?

 

[P@triot]

Yes you are so scared you need to carry a gun everywhere you go. Meanwhile:
School Shooting in Kentucky Was Nation’s 11th of Year. It Was Jan. 23.

The fact that you’re too dumb to see the irony that every link you post is about a shooting where firearms are banned like you want them to be is hilarious...

 

[P@triot]

When was the last school shooting in the UK? Germany?

Really. You want to talk about Germany? Are you sure you want to do that, snowflake? Do you intentionally avoid the news or are you too busy doing something else to pay attention?

Germany's Migrant Rape Crisis: January 2017

Why are sexual assaults in Bavaria on the rise? | Germany | DW | 20.09.2017

German crime statistics reveal steep rise in violent and political crimes | News | DW | 24.04.2017

Did you catch that? A steep rise in violent crime. Thank goodness for a disarmed and helpless German populace, uh?

 

[Skull Pilot]

And crime in the country is at a 30 year low

so one state doesn't matter

FBI: Violent crime increases for second straight year

Compared to the decrease in the past 30 years that increase is insignificant and cannot be proven to be directly caused by guns

Concealed carry is at its highest and violent crime went up. Clearly it does not decrease crime.

IDGAF if it decreases crime and I never claimed it did but you have not proven in any way shape or form that concealed carry is a direct cause of the increased crime rates have you?

Concealed carry is at its highest and violent crime went up. Clearly it does not decrease crime.

Crime has increased in WI every year since they got concealed carry.

Correlation does not equal causation. If you can't prove causality your argument isn't worth the bandwidth used to post it

And who gives a fuck if concealed carry doesn't decrease crime?

Obama asked the CDC about it and what did they find out?

CDC Study: Use of Firearms for Self-Defense is ‘Important Crime Deterrent’

“Studies that directly assessed the effect of actual defensive uses of guns (i.e., incidents in which a gun was ‘used’ by the crime victim in the sense of attacking or threatening an offender) have found consistently lower injury rates among gun-using crime victims compared with victims who used other self-protective strategies,”

 

[Skull Pilot]

While crime goes up in the US, crime goes down in New York where they have stuck to strong gun control.
https://nypost.com/2018/02/06/nyc-crime-continues-to-plummet-in-2018/

And you are lying by omission...

New York's crime dropped because Rugy Guiliani cleaned up the city by arresting criminals.......and they have followed his techniques until this latest socialist showed up as mayor....

Don’t Take the Wrong Lessons from NYC’s Murder Drop

New York City’s formerly high-crime neighborhoods have experienced a stunning degree of gentrification over the last 15 years, thanks to the proactive-policing-induced conquest of crime. It is that gentrification which is now helping fuel the ongoing crime drop. Urban hipsters are flocking to areas that once were the purview of drug dealers and pimps, trailing in their wake legitimate commerce and street life, which further attracts law-abiding activity and residents in a virtuous cycle of increasing public safety.

The degree of demographic change is startling.

In Brooklyn’s Bedford-Stuyvesant neighborhood, for example, the number of white residents rose 1,235 percent from 2000 to 2015, while the black population decreased by 17 percent, reports City Lab.

In Bushwick, Brooklyn, the number of whites rose 610 percent over that same decade and a half; the black population was down 22 percent. Central Harlem’s white population rose 846 percent; the black share dropped 10 percent. In 2000, whites were about three-quarters of the black population in Brownsville-Ocean Hill; by 2015, there were twice as many whites as blacks.

In 2000, whites were one-third of the black population in Crown Heights North and Prospect Heights; now they exceed the black population by 20,000. The Brooklyn Navy Yards has now been declared the next cool place to be by the tech industry. Business owners are moving their residences as well as their enterprises to the area.


This demographic transformation has enormous implications for crime.

A black New Yorker is 50 times more likely to commit a shooting than a white New Yorker, according to perpetrator identifications provided to the police by witnesses to, and victims of, those shootings.

Those victims are overwhelmingly minority themselves.

When the racial balance of a neighborhood changes radically, given those crime disparities, its violent-crime rate will as well. (This racial crime disparity reflects the breakdown of the black family and the high percentage of black males — upwards of 80 percent in some neighborhoods — being raised by single mothers.)

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The high-crime areas of Baltimore and Chicago have not been gentrified. Baltimore is experiencing its highest per capita murder rate for the third year in a row. While Chicago’s homicide numbers are down somewhat this year, thanks to the aggressive use of shot-spotter technology, they remain at a level far higher than in the past decad

They have strong gun control and their crime is plummeting. WI got concealed carry and crime is increasing.

Chicago has "strong gun control" too
DC has "strong gun control" so does CA

UT does not have "strong gun control" and their crime rate is lower than all of the above.

 

[Skull Pilot]

They have strong gun control and their crime is plummeting. WI got concealed carry and crime is increasing.

If that is true (and I highly doubt it) that would be a first. Everywhere that conceal carry was passed, crime plummeted.

No it has never plummeted anywhere. In WI it has increased. As a country our violent crime rate increased the last two years. That's with the most concealed carry we have ever had. Here are the stats for WI, no doubting needed.
Wisconsin Crime Rates 1960 - 2016

One state.

Use numbers for the entire country and your argument falls apart like used toilet paper

 

[Skull Pilot]

When was the last school shooting in the UK?

When was the last time people in England were able to defend themselves? Oops...

Homicide and knife crime rates 'rising'

FBI: Violent crime increases for second straight year

you don't even read the articles you post do you?

"Chicago accounted for more than 20% of the nationwide murder increase in 2016, despite being home to less than 1% of the U.S. population,"

So your "strong gun control" bastion of Chicago accounted for the single largest increase in the national murder rate

 

[Skull Pilot]

I never carrying and am far from helpless.

You are completely helpless. I always carry a firearm and never worry about a thing. Have never been mugged, assaulted, etc. and never will be.

Yes you are so scared you need to carry a gun everywhere you go. Meanwhile:
School Shooting in Kentucky Was Nation’s 11th of Year. It Was Jan. 23.

I don't carry a gun everywhere I go.

But having the option to does not increase crime.

Funny how CCW permit holders in my area of the state are many and we have a nearly zero crime rate

 

[danielpalos]

Gun lovers are slackers. Any political coincidence?

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