The Democratic party now has a 17 year old as its party leader

[HappyJoy]

Well, character assassination for one thing. Calling him everything from a crisis actor to a communist. It's all the idiotic vitriol from the right.

Was Laura Ingraham confronting 'his lies'? Nope, she was just being a typical Fox News asshat who will do anything to derail the topic of gun control.

Oh, "character assassination". Can you overreact a little more? It's actually called "expressing an opinion about a media figure", kinda the way David Hogg did when he said, “If you can’t get elected without taking money from child murderers, why are you running?”; or when he said, "She owns these congressmen. She can get them to do things. It's just she doesn't care about these children's lives" Or when he said, "'It just makes me think, "What sick f**ers out there want to continue to sell more guns, murder more children, and honestly just get reelected? What type of sh***y person does that? They could have blood from children splattered all over their faces and they wouldn’t take action, because they all still see these dollar signs."

The NRA does nothing to keep guns away from people who shouldn't have them. If Ingraham had a problem with how Hogg portrays the NRA which is in the realm of the gun control debate then perhaps Ingraham should have stayed on point. Instead, her regretful tweet had nothing to do with gun control and instead was an attack on a mass shooting survivor. There is no integrity and now she has lost quite a few advertisers, had to apologize to save face (though that didn't go over well) and take a forced vacation.

If you can't stand the heat, don't like the fucking match.

What are you talking about? I think it was Ingraham who couldn't stand the heat and her shitty little mia culpa of an apology is evidence of that. She went where she shouldn't and she paid a pretty big price, guess what Ingraham won't be talking about next week?

why is it the NRA's job to keep guns away from people exactly? how does that work? isn't that what our government law officials are for? Do you know who the NRA is? it is a concept not a corporation making guns and making no fly lists. Others do all of that. reach out to those folks. The NRA. black children die all the time in the cities, why aren't you contacting the NAACP to have that stopped?

The NRA is a lobbyist organization for gun companies and they have stood in the way of common sense gun control laws. What that has to do with how many colleges Hogg has been accepted or rejected from is beyond me but Ingraham sure bit it when she went there.

well you should provide what you think they should do? they don't write laws.

They shouldn't contribute to politicians who are against universal background checks. Does that work?

If this were about Planned Parenthood would you be making the same "they don't write laws" argument?

 

[jc456]

Obama-Era Education Policy Questioned After Parkland Shooting

the leftist willfully ignores that

So instead of finding a common denominator of where mass shooters obtain their weapons you want to blame school policy? That's intelligent decit at it best.

One of the major problems on gun control and/or any other issues is that democrats/liberals always, and I mean always, want to change the goalposts.

Because the goalposts are never set where they should be.

Usually, the goalposts you're moving are the ones YOU set, and then discovered they wouldn't accomplish your goals.

that is the only goal posts he can move are his. he does it daily.

 

[jc456]

Oh, "character assassination". Can you overreact a little more? It's actually called "expressing an opinion about a media figure", kinda the way David Hogg did when he said, “If you can’t get elected without taking money from child murderers, why are you running?”; or when he said, "She owns these congressmen. She can get them to do things. It's just she doesn't care about these children's lives" Or when he said, "'It just makes me think, "What sick f**ers out there want to continue to sell more guns, murder more children, and honestly just get reelected? What type of sh***y person does that? They could have blood from children splattered all over their faces and they wouldn’t take action, because they all still see these dollar signs."

The NRA does nothing to keep guns away from people who shouldn't have them. If Ingraham had a problem with how Hogg portrays the NRA which is in the realm of the gun control debate then perhaps Ingraham should have stayed on point. Instead, her regretful tweet had nothing to do with gun control and instead was an attack on a mass shooting survivor. There is no integrity and now she has lost quite a few advertisers, had to apologize to save face (though that didn't go over well) and take a forced vacation.

If you can't stand the heat, don't like the fucking match.

What are you talking about? I think it was Ingraham who couldn't stand the heat and her shitty little mia culpa of an apology is evidence of that. She went where she shouldn't and she paid a pretty big price, guess what Ingraham won't be talking about next week?

why is it the NRA's job to keep guns away from people exactly? how does that work? isn't that what our government law officials are for? Do you know who the NRA is? it is a concept not a corporation making guns and making no fly lists. Others do all of that. reach out to those folks. The NRA. black children die all the time in the cities, why aren't you contacting the NAACP to have that stopped?

The NRA is a lobbyist organization for gun companies and they have stood in the way of common sense gun control laws. What that has to do with how many colleges Hogg has been accepted or rejected from is beyond me but Ingraham sure bit it when she went there.

well you should provide what you think they should do? they don't write laws.

They shouldn't contribute to politicians who are against universal background checks. Does that work?

If this were about Planned Parenthood would you be making the same "they don't write laws" argument?

what law keeps them from contributing?

 

[HappyJoy]

Well, he wasn't whining about it, he was just saying what happened, he mentioned what colleges he was rejected from and what colleges accepted him and said right now he has other priorities anyway.

You know who is whining? Every snowflake who thinks Laura Ingraham was actually debating the topic of gun control when she went personal against Hogg and now may end up losing her worthless job as a Trump sycophant.

Her job is fine. FOX is standing behind her. If mocking an individual is now not allowed on air or in the media we've not just gone down the slippery slope but we're digging a crater.

Really? Personal attacks over substance is considered fair game on conservative news shows (or twitter accounts of "news" show hosts)? Thanks for the admission.

how was it a personal attack? was he or was he not whining about four colleges not accepting him? he was. that is a story friend, he put himself out there for it. so as usual you have no idea of what you speak.

It's what happens in politics when you throw yourself into it, which he did.

The president doesn't take personal shots daily on the other channels? really? I laugh at your lack of knowledge of anything.

The president takes a lot of shots, usually about the shitty job he's doing.

Anyway, your post is merely retread of what the right has already said on the subject. The point is, she went personal, she got burned, deal with it.

how? I asked you that already. he is out there shooting off his mouth. He's fair game bubba. how many times must I tell you today?

that punk deserves no special attention

He's made his point. If you want to criticize him on his views about gun control he's more than happy to meet you half way. If you are going to attack him personally then he's going to get in contact with your advertisers. Why does the right not understand this?

 

[HappyJoy]

The NRA does nothing to keep guns away from people who shouldn't have them. If Ingraham had a problem with how Hogg portrays the NRA which is in the realm of the gun control debate then perhaps Ingraham should have stayed on point. Instead, her regretful tweet had nothing to do with gun control and instead was an attack on a mass shooting survivor. There is no integrity and now she has lost quite a few advertisers, had to apologize to save face (though that didn't go over well) and take a forced vacation.

What are you talking about? I think it was Ingraham who couldn't stand the heat and her shitty little mia culpa of an apology is evidence of that. She went where she shouldn't and she paid a pretty big price, guess what Ingraham won't be talking about next week?

why is it the NRA's job to keep guns away from people exactly? how does that work? isn't that what our government law officials are for? Do you know who the NRA is? it is a concept not a corporation making guns and making no fly lists. Others do all of that. reach out to those folks. The NRA. black children die all the time in the cities, why aren't you contacting the NAACP to have that stopped?

The NRA is a lobbyist organization for gun companies and they have stood in the way of common sense gun control laws. What that has to do with how many colleges Hogg has been accepted or rejected from is beyond me but Ingraham sure bit it when she went there.

well you should provide what you think they should do? they don't write laws.

They shouldn't contribute to politicians who are against universal background checks. Does that work?

If this were about Planned Parenthood would you be making the same "they don't write laws" argument?

what law keeps them from contributing?

There is no law but that hardly matters, nobody is claiming it's against the law for the NRA to contribute, he's just calling out politicians who except their money and have done absolutely nothing for gun control.

Is this too difficult a concept for you as well?

 

[jc456]

Yeah sure dude.

It must be talking points day in right-wingiverse.

I honestly think they are trying to wrap their heads around how to handle this kid because so far nothing has worked. I guess the next thing to do is promote Hogg to leader of the Democratic party, at least according to the OP.

"Handle him"? "Nothing has worked"? What, precisely, do you think we want, or should want, to do with the arrogant little putz, beyond countering his lies the same way we do every other leftist's lies? You flatter yourselves that you're vastly more important, effective, and scary than you are.

Well, character assassination for one thing. Calling him everything from a crisis actor to a communist. It's all the idiotic vitriol from the right.

Was Laura Ingraham confronting 'his lies'? Nope, she was just being a typical Fox News asshat who will do anything to derail the topic of gun control.

Oh, "character assassination". Can you overreact a little more? It's actually called "expressing an opinion about a media figure", kinda the way David Hogg did when he said, “If you can’t get elected without taking money from child murderers, why are you running?”; or when he said, "She owns these congressmen. She can get them to do things. It's just she doesn't care about these children's lives" Or when he said, "'It just makes me think, "What sick f**ers out there want to continue to sell more guns, murder more children, and honestly just get reelected? What type of sh***y person does that? They could have blood from children splattered all over their faces and they wouldn’t take action, because they all still see these dollar signs."

If you can't stand the heat, don't like the fucking match.

Liberals are HUGE in establishing one way streets of expression. Hogg can criticize but cannot be criticized

and if you do he runs out and cries at his handlers to take out the person that offends him. he's so tough. LOL

 

[jc456]

why is it the NRA's job to keep guns away from people exactly? how does that work? isn't that what our government law officials are for? Do you know who the NRA is? it is a concept not a corporation making guns and making no fly lists. Others do all of that. reach out to those folks. The NRA. black children die all the time in the cities, why aren't you contacting the NAACP to have that stopped?

The NRA is a lobbyist organization for gun companies and they have stood in the way of common sense gun control laws. What that has to do with how many colleges Hogg has been accepted or rejected from is beyond me but Ingraham sure bit it when she went there.

well you should provide what you think they should do? they don't write laws.

They shouldn't contribute to politicians who are against universal background checks. Does that work?

If this were about Planned Parenthood would you be making the same "they don't write laws" argument?

what law keeps them from contributing?

There is no law but that hardly matters, nobody is claiming it's against the law for the NRA to contribute, he's just calling out politicians who except their money and have done absolutely nothing for gun control.

Is this too difficult a concept for you as well?

why shouldn't they take their money? why does he have the right to tell a politician whose money they can and can't take. what kind of asinine crap is that? And you want someone to take the punk seriously? LOL. nope. who died and gave him the title for 3200 students? that's what I want to know.

 

[HappyJoy]

I honestly think they are trying to wrap their heads around how to handle this kid because so far nothing has worked. I guess the next thing to do is promote Hogg to leader of the Democratic party, at least according to the OP.

"Handle him"? "Nothing has worked"? What, precisely, do you think we want, or should want, to do with the arrogant little putz, beyond countering his lies the same way we do every other leftist's lies? You flatter yourselves that you're vastly more important, effective, and scary than you are.

Well, character assassination for one thing. Calling him everything from a crisis actor to a communist. It's all the idiotic vitriol from the right.

Was Laura Ingraham confronting 'his lies'? Nope, she was just being a typical Fox News asshat who will do anything to derail the topic of gun control.

Oh, "character assassination". Can you overreact a little more? It's actually called "expressing an opinion about a media figure", kinda the way David Hogg did when he said, “If you can’t get elected without taking money from child murderers, why are you running?”; or when he said, "She owns these congressmen. She can get them to do things. It's just she doesn't care about these children's lives" Or when he said, "'It just makes me think, "What sick f**ers out there want to continue to sell more guns, murder more children, and honestly just get reelected? What type of sh***y person does that? They could have blood from children splattered all over their faces and they wouldn’t take action, because they all still see these dollar signs."

If you can't stand the heat, don't like the fucking match.

Liberals are HUGE in establishing one way streets of expression. Hogg can criticize but cannot be criticized

and if you do he runs out and cries at his handlers to take out the person that offends him. he's so tough. LOL

Oh my god, the whine from you two is palpable.

 

[jc456]

Drivers are at fault just like shooters are at fault, but because of the danger we have regulations to maximize safety. We have such things like, car safety standards, inspections, speed limits, licensing requirements, seat belt laws, traffic signs, DUI regulations and fines. Do you really not understand how this works?

Thank you for working so hard to make my point. Last year, 40,100 people were killed in auto crashes.

Tell us how many people were killed in 2017 by a rifle. Step up, you can do it!

Further, driving is an EARNED PRIVILEGE.

My ownership of a gun is a RIGHT provided to me by the Constitution.

Do you really not understand how this works?

Of course I understand. We all have a right to bare arms. So bare them. But we also have the right to regulate what is legally sold.

Do you think any US citizen should be able to walk into Walmart and buy a machine gun?

sure, why not? as long as the background check checks out, why else would they not be able to purchase one? what are you afraid of? BTW, I don't think you can buy one anymore. it is banned.

 

[HappyJoy]

The NRA is a lobbyist organization for gun companies and they have stood in the way of common sense gun control laws. What that has to do with how many colleges Hogg has been accepted or rejected from is beyond me but Ingraham sure bit it when she went there.

well you should provide what you think they should do? they don't write laws.

They shouldn't contribute to politicians who are against universal background checks. Does that work?

If this were about Planned Parenthood would you be making the same "they don't write laws" argument?

what law keeps them from contributing?

There is no law but that hardly matters, nobody is claiming it's against the law for the NRA to contribute, he's just calling out politicians who except their money and have done absolutely nothing for gun control.

Is this too difficult a concept for you as well?

why shouldn't they take their money? why does he have the right to tell a politician whose money they can and can't take. what kind of asinine crap is that? And you want someone to take the punk seriously? LOL. nope. who died and gave him the title for 3200 students? that's what I want to know.

Are you asking why a citizen has the right to express their opinions on what politicians should or shouldn't do? Do you really want an answer to that? Or did you remember what country you live in?

A better question is who died and gave you the title of king dipshit with your moronic questions that don't pass a basic logic test?

3,200 students? LOL

 

[jc456]

"Handle him"? "Nothing has worked"? What, precisely, do you think we want, or should want, to do with the arrogant little putz, beyond countering his lies the same way we do every other leftist's lies? You flatter yourselves that you're vastly more important, effective, and scary than you are.

Well, character assassination for one thing. Calling him everything from a crisis actor to a communist. It's all the idiotic vitriol from the right.

Was Laura Ingraham confronting 'his lies'? Nope, she was just being a typical Fox News asshat who will do anything to derail the topic of gun control.

Oh, "character assassination". Can you overreact a little more? It's actually called "expressing an opinion about a media figure", kinda the way David Hogg did when he said, “If you can’t get elected without taking money from child murderers, why are you running?”; or when he said, "She owns these congressmen. She can get them to do things. It's just she doesn't care about these children's lives" Or when he said, "'It just makes me think, "What sick f**ers out there want to continue to sell more guns, murder more children, and honestly just get reelected? What type of sh***y person does that? They could have blood from children splattered all over their faces and they wouldn’t take action, because they all still see these dollar signs."

If you can't stand the heat, don't like the fucking match.

Liberals are HUGE in establishing one way streets of expression. Hogg can criticize but cannot be criticized

and if you do he runs out and cries at his handlers to take out the person that offends him. he's so tough. LOL

Oh my god, the whine from you two is palpable.

that is but a mere fact and point. thanks.

 

[jc456]

well you should provide what you think they should do? they don't write laws.

They shouldn't contribute to politicians who are against universal background checks. Does that work?

If this were about Planned Parenthood would you be making the same "they don't write laws" argument?

what law keeps them from contributing?

There is no law but that hardly matters, nobody is claiming it's against the law for the NRA to contribute, he's just calling out politicians who except their money and have done absolutely nothing for gun control.

Is this too difficult a concept for you as well?

why shouldn't they take their money? why does he have the right to tell a politician whose money they can and can't take. what kind of asinine crap is that? And you want someone to take the punk seriously? LOL. nope. who died and gave him the title for 3200 students? that's what I want to know.

Are you asking why a citizen has the right to express their opinions on what politicians should or shouldn't do? Do you really want an answer to that? Or did you remember what country you live in?

A better question is who died and gave you the title of king dipshit with your moronic questions that don't pass a basic logic test?

sure anyone can say anything they want. To demand something without debate is dictatorshipish. so yeah he should shut up. My opinion. I'm allowed to the same thing correct?

 

[jc456]

well you should provide what you think they should do? they don't write laws.

They shouldn't contribute to politicians who are against universal background checks. Does that work?

If this were about Planned Parenthood would you be making the same "they don't write laws" argument?

what law keeps them from contributing?

There is no law but that hardly matters, nobody is claiming it's against the law for the NRA to contribute, he's just calling out politicians who except their money and have done absolutely nothing for gun control.

Is this too difficult a concept for you as well?

why shouldn't they take their money? why does he have the right to tell a politician whose money they can and can't take. what kind of asinine crap is that? And you want someone to take the punk seriously? LOL. nope. who died and gave him the title for 3200 students? that's what I want to know.

Are you asking why a citizen has the right to express their opinions on what politicians should or shouldn't do? Do you really want an answer to that? Or did you remember what country you live in?

A better question is who died and gave you the title of king dipshit with your moronic questions that don't pass a basic logic test?

3,200 students? LOL

who died and gave you the title of king dipshit with your moronic questions that don't pass a basic logic test.

the first amendment. deal with it.

BTW, you have no logic, that's why you can't see it when it appears.

 

[jc456]

well you should provide what you think they should do? they don't write laws.

They shouldn't contribute to politicians who are against universal background checks. Does that work?

If this were about Planned Parenthood would you be making the same "they don't write laws" argument?

what law keeps them from contributing?

There is no law but that hardly matters, nobody is claiming it's against the law for the NRA to contribute, he's just calling out politicians who except their money and have done absolutely nothing for gun control.

Is this too difficult a concept for you as well?

why shouldn't they take their money? why does he have the right to tell a politician whose money they can and can't take. what kind of asinine crap is that? And you want someone to take the punk seriously? LOL. nope. who died and gave him the title for 3200 students? that's what I want to know.

Are you asking why a citizen has the right to express their opinions on what politicians should or shouldn't do? Do you really want an answer to that? Or did you remember what country you live in?

A better question is who died and gave you the title of king dipshit with your moronic questions that don't pass a basic logic test?

3,200 students? LOL

yep 3,200 students, who did not give him speaker rights for them sorry. a citizen speaks for themselves. you should learn this.

 

[HappyJoy]

They shouldn't contribute to politicians who are against universal background checks. Does that work?

If this were about Planned Parenthood would you be making the same "they don't write laws" argument?

what law keeps them from contributing?

There is no law but that hardly matters, nobody is claiming it's against the law for the NRA to contribute, he's just calling out politicians who except their money and have done absolutely nothing for gun control.

Is this too difficult a concept for you as well?

why shouldn't they take their money? why does he have the right to tell a politician whose money they can and can't take. what kind of asinine crap is that? And you want someone to take the punk seriously? LOL. nope. who died and gave him the title for 3200 students? that's what I want to know.

Are you asking why a citizen has the right to express their opinions on what politicians should or shouldn't do? Do you really want an answer to that? Or did you remember what country you live in?

A better question is who died and gave you the title of king dipshit with your moronic questions that don't pass a basic logic test?

sure anyone can say anything they want.

Not according to some on this board, I'm not allowed to mention who they are.

To demand something without debate is dictatorshipish.

Of course that is idiotic. Hogg and the other kids have welcomed a debate. Ingraham didn't debate, she attempted to derail and what Hogg did was make her advertisers aware of her own words. Nobody is trying to pass a law saying Ingraham doesn't have a right to free speech, but speech can have consequences and in Ingraham's case she met them.

so yeah he should shut up. My opinion. I'm allowed to the same thing correct?

Of course you can say he should shut up all day long. He's not going to and even if he knew who you were it wouldn't matter.

 

[hunarcy]

The Democratic party now has a 17 year old as its party leader who also wants to grab your guns .

Better him than the Corporate Whore and her cheating minions.

 

[HappyJoy]

They shouldn't contribute to politicians who are against universal background checks. Does that work?

If this were about Planned Parenthood would you be making the same "they don't write laws" argument?

what law keeps them from contributing?

There is no law but that hardly matters, nobody is claiming it's against the law for the NRA to contribute, he's just calling out politicians who except their money and have done absolutely nothing for gun control.

Is this too difficult a concept for you as well?

why shouldn't they take their money? why does he have the right to tell a politician whose money they can and can't take. what kind of asinine crap is that? And you want someone to take the punk seriously? LOL. nope. who died and gave him the title for 3200 students? that's what I want to know.

Are you asking why a citizen has the right to express their opinions on what politicians should or shouldn't do? Do you really want an answer to that? Or did you remember what country you live in?

A better question is who died and gave you the title of king dipshit with your moronic questions that don't pass a basic logic test?

3,200 students? LOL

who died and gave you the title of king dipshit with your moronic questions that don't pass a basic logic test.

the first amendment. deal with it.

Let's savior the moment you accepted your title.

BTW, you have no logic, that's why you can't see it when it appears.

Great, so you'd also have a problem with people calling out Planned Parenthood for giving money to politicians considering their stance on abortion?

 

[HappyJoy]

They shouldn't contribute to politicians who are against universal background checks. Does that work?

If this were about Planned Parenthood would you be making the same "they don't write laws" argument?

what law keeps them from contributing?

There is no law but that hardly matters, nobody is claiming it's against the law for the NRA to contribute, he's just calling out politicians who except their money and have done absolutely nothing for gun control.

Is this too difficult a concept for you as well?

why shouldn't they take their money? why does he have the right to tell a politician whose money they can and can't take. what kind of asinine crap is that? And you want someone to take the punk seriously? LOL. nope. who died and gave him the title for 3200 students? that's what I want to know.

Are you asking why a citizen has the right to express their opinions on what politicians should or shouldn't do? Do you really want an answer to that? Or did you remember what country you live in?

A better question is who died and gave you the title of king dipshit with your moronic questions that don't pass a basic logic test?

3,200 students? LOL

yep 3,200 students, who did not give him speaker rights for them sorry. a citizen speaks for themselves. you should learn this.

How many people showed up for the March for our Lives protests around the country let along the world? A lot more than 3,200 and he never claimed he spoke for all the students of Parkland either.

You're now at the point where you're just reaching for anything.

 

[Slade3200]

Drivers are at fault just like shooters are at fault, but because of the danger we have regulations to maximize safety. We have such things like, car safety standards, inspections, speed limits, licensing requirements, seat belt laws, traffic signs, DUI regulations and fines. Do you really not understand how this works?

Thank you for working so hard to make my point. Last year, 40,100 people were killed in auto crashes.

Tell us how many people were killed in 2017 by a rifle. Step up, you can do it!

Further, driving is an EARNED PRIVILEGE.

My ownership of a gun is a RIGHT provided to me by the Constitution.

Do you really not understand how this works?

Of course I understand. We all have a right to bare arms. So bare them. But we also have the right to regulate what is legally sold.

Do you think any US citizen should be able to walk into Walmart and buy a machine gun?

Oh gawd. Such a tired strawman argument.

Seriously. You Proglodytes need to update your talking points.

Why don’t you just address my point and debunk it instead of being a hypocrite and using a straw man by calling my argument a straw man. Which is also not true.

You are diverting from my point which justifies gun regulation by calling it a tired talking point. That’s the definition of a straw man.

My point goes directly to the point of discussion, which is whether gun regulation is legal and justified. No straw man there.

 

[jc456]

what law keeps them from contributing?

There is no law but that hardly matters, nobody is claiming it's against the law for the NRA to contribute, he's just calling out politicians who except their money and have done absolutely nothing for gun control.

Is this too difficult a concept for you as well?

why shouldn't they take their money? why does he have the right to tell a politician whose money they can and can't take. what kind of asinine crap is that? And you want someone to take the punk seriously? LOL. nope. who died and gave him the title for 3200 students? that's what I want to know.

Are you asking why a citizen has the right to express their opinions on what politicians should or shouldn't do? Do you really want an answer to that? Or did you remember what country you live in?

A better question is who died and gave you the title of king dipshit with your moronic questions that don't pass a basic logic test?

3,200 students? LOL

yep 3,200 students, who did not give him speaker rights for them sorry. a citizen speaks for themselves. you should learn this.

How many people showed up for the March for our Lives protests around the country let along the world? A lot more than 3,200 and he never claimed he spoke for all the students of Parkland either.

You're now at the point where you're just reaching for anything.

those weren't students from the school. why are you so ignorant?