The Difference

[Pop23]

Here lies the problem wh Trumps reaction to VA . He's basically saying Both sides are just opposite extremists views .

That's rediculous . Wanting to run minorities out of the country is an extreme view . Not likening racism is not .

Think of that Westboro baptist. Church . If you counter protest them does that make you a crazy religious freak?

One group hates based on race, the other hates based on ideology.

Equally disgusting groups.

What's the point if this?

 

[whitehall]

There are no sides in a peaceful demonstration but if both sides resort to violence it means both sides are extremist. Doesn't it make sense?

 

[2aguy]

Here lies the problem wh Trumps reaction to VA . He's basically saying Both sides are just opposite extremists views .

That's rediculous . Wanting to run minorities out of the country is an extreme view . Not likening racism is not .

Think of that Westboro baptist. Church . If you counter protest them does that make you a crazy religious freak?

They are exactly opposite extremist views....antifa and black lives matter are racist...they are also socialists....they have been burning and looting for the last two years, and they have both been committing acts of mild to extreme violence......black lives matter sympathizers murdered 5 police officers in Dallas...he stated he wanted to murder whites....and other black lives matter sympathizers have murdererd other police officers...

antifa socialists have burned buildings, and attacked peaceful rally goesrs and people who tried to go to conservative speakers speeches.....

antifa is based in marxism....communists murdered more people than the national socialists in more countries...25 million in Russia, 70 million in China, 1/3 of the population of Cambodia, they put half of Europe in a prison after world war 2.......

So yes....the other side was just as extreme and just as racist as the white nationalists....

 

[Harry Dresden]

so the lefties that had baseball bats were on their way to a game and just stopped by to see whats going on?...how about the guys with gas masks?....why did they have those with them?...

Reaction. Straight up.

yea the reaction was..."hey guys the fucking nazis are going to be protesting today,lets take our bats and go and yell things at them and maybe we can crack some fucking racist heads!"....you are just making excuses for the left LL,but dont feel bad many righties are doing the same thing for the other side....

Nope. I'm expressing empathy for people who decided that they were not going to lay down while haters gathered in their public square.

If ISIS had a fucking parade in Manhattan, I'd feel empathy toward those who objected. Same shit.

you are expressing empathy for people who went to a protest knowing that there would be a confrontation,and that was their motive for going......

Nope. They went to face their tormentors. They faced those who would have them deported, subjugated or killed. I can't blame them.

so they went knowing shit is going to start involving them....glad you agree.....

 

[2aguy]

Here lies the problem wh Trumps reaction to VA . He's basically saying Both sides are just opposite extremists views .

That's rediculous . Wanting to run minorities out of the country is an extreme view . Not likening racism is not .

Think of that Westboro baptist. Church . If you counter protest them does that make you a crazy religious freak?

One group hates based on race, the other hates based on ideology.

Equally disgusting groups.

What's the point if this?

antifa and black lives matter are also racists.......they just don't get called on it...

 

[2aguy]

Here lies the problem wh Trumps reaction to VA . He's basically saying Both sides are just opposite extremists views .

That's rediculous . Wanting to run minorities out of the country is an extreme view . Not likening racism is not .

Think of that Westboro baptist. Church . If you counter protest them does that make you a crazy religious freak?

Apples and oranges... for you. When you're a counter protest group coming in intent on inciting violence with the main protesters, you are just as extreme as they are.

Who had intent ? Neo nazis aren't known to be pacifists. And they came dressed up in their homemade battle gear.

Enough of this bull that they are peaceful Wall flowers :

Do you not realize that antifa has been attacking peaceful people all over this country since before this election started......as have black lives matter...their sympathizers murdered 5 police officers in Dallas and others around the country.

 

[Pop23]

Here lies the problem wh Trumps reaction to VA . He's basically saying Both sides are just opposite extremists views .

That's rediculous . Wanting to run minorities out of the country is an extreme view . Not likening racism is not .

Think of that Westboro baptist. Church . If you counter protest them does that make you a crazy religious freak?

One group hates based on race, the other hates based on ideology.

Equally disgusting groups.

What's the point if this?

antifa and black lives matter are also racists.......they just don't get called on it...

And fascist as well.

So we agree

 

[OldLady]

Here lies the problem wh Trumps reaction to VA . He's basically saying Both sides are just opposite extremists views .

That's rediculous . Wanting to run minorities out of the country is an extreme view . Not likening racism is not .

Think of that Westboro baptist. Church . If you counter protest them does that make you a crazy religious freak?

Counter protesting is fine and encouraged except when the counter protesters come loaded for bear and have every intention of mixing it up with the opposition. They blocked the Alt-Right's path at one point, which caused the marchers to take out their bats. They were asking for it, Timmy. Now, personally I like to see those a-holes get what's coming to them, but when talking about who is responsible for the violence, I think you've got to include both sides on this one. Not EVERYONE, but there were some on both sides who fueled it and while I completely understand the animosity people feel toward the neo-Nazi's et al, if we're talking about violence, it became a gang rumble with both sides knowing it was going to happen.

 

[2aguy]

Here lies the problem wh Trumps reaction to VA . He's basically saying Both sides are just opposite extremists views .

That's rediculous . Wanting to run minorities out of the country is an extreme view . Not likening racism is not .

Think of that Westboro baptist. Church . If you counter protest them does that make you a crazy religious freak?

Counter protesting is fine and encouraged except when the counter protesters come loaded for bear and have every intention of mixing it up with the opposition. They blocked the Alt-Right's path at one point, which caused the marchers to take out their bats. They were asking for it, Timmy. Now, personally I like to see those a-holes get what's coming to them, but when talking about who is responsible for the violence, I think you've got to include both sides on this one. Not EVERYONE, but there were some on both sides who fueled it and while I completely understand the animosity people feel toward the neo-Nazi's et al, if we're talking about violence, it became a gang rumble with both sides knowing it was going to happen.

Wow...oldlady.....you made a statement filled with truth and clarity...thank you.

 

[Ringel05]

Here lies the problem wh Trumps reaction to VA . He's basically saying Both sides are just opposite extremists views .

That's rediculous . Wanting to run minorities out of the country is an extreme view . Not likening racism is not .

Think of that Westboro baptist. Church . If you counter protest them does that make you a crazy religious freak?

Apples and oranges... for you. When you're a counter protest group coming in intent on inciting violence with the main protesters, you are just as extreme as they are.

Liberals wouldn't like it if they came to their rallies and fucked with them.

Actually it would increase their press exposure measurably.

Just like the Media built up Trump they are building these guys up into far more than they actually are.

Unfortunately, as usual, the media is catering to the public's taste, people love controversy and conflict, the media wholeheartedly caters to the public's taste because it's all about ratings. Ratings = money...........

I think with Trump they also had an agenda to throw a wrench into the Republican Primary process. They figured he would mess up the race, but I don't believe they thought he could win early on.

Once he looked to be the winner, they kept pushing him as they thought Hillary could wipe the floor with him.

Fairly strong possibility you're correct especially when one listens to the evening news with open ears and an unbiased mind, the words and descriptors being chosen by the anchors (and their writers) are undeniably biased with what appears to be intention though it's probably more subconscious manifestation than intentional subversion.

 

[OldLady]

Here lies the problem wh Trumps reaction to VA . He's basically saying Both sides are just opposite extremists views .

That's rediculous . Wanting to run minorities out of the country is an extreme view . Not likening racism is not .

Think of that Westboro baptist. Church . If you counter protest them does that make you a crazy religious freak?

Apples and oranges... for you. When you're a counter protest group coming in intent on inciting violence with the main protesters, you are just as extreme as they are.

Who had intent ? Neo nazis aren't known to be pacifists. And they came dressed up in their homemade battle gear.

Enough of this bull that they are peaceful Wall flowers :

And they came dressed up in their homemade battle gear.

Yes..

they carried shields, because have had bricks, rocks, bottles, etc thrown at them before.

They carried clubs, to defend themselves.

This wasn't their first rodeo, and they were prepared.

Who threw the first punch, timmy?

Do YOU know?

Does ANYONE know?

Weak argument, Will. Violence was erupting in pockets all over the place that morning. One fist fight/rock at a time. Could have been a shove, a particularly nasty word thrown out, any number of things that sparked the pockets of violence. That argument though--Who started it?--is the same argument teachers have every day on playground duty when two ruffians need to get hauled apart and taken to the principal's office. Essentially, they're both guilty and they both get booted for a couple days.

You are usually more mature than that.

 

[John Shaw]

Using violence is extreme.

 

[OldLady]

Here lies the problem wh Trumps reaction to VA . He's basically saying Both sides are just opposite extremists views .

That's rediculous . Wanting to run minorities out of the country is an extreme view . Not likening racism is not .

Think of that Westboro baptist. Church . If you counter protest them does that make you a crazy religious freak?

Counter protesting is fine and encouraged except when the counter protesters come loaded for bear and have every intention of mixing it up with the opposition. They blocked the Alt-Right's path at one point, which caused the marchers to take out their bats. They were asking for it, Timmy. Now, personally I like to see those a-holes get what's coming to them, but when talking about who is responsible for the violence, I think you've got to include both sides on this one. Not EVERYONE, but there were some on both sides who fueled it and while I completely understand the animosity people feel toward the neo-Nazi's et al, if we're talking about violence, it became a gang rumble with both sides knowing it was going to happen.

Wow...oldlady.....you made a statement filled with truth and clarity...thank you.

Oh, God, that's scary.
Only kidding, 2AGuy. Let's mark our calendars.

 

[whitehall]

Everything is political and the left is determined to undermine the Trump administration while ignoring the democrat governor who invited those people and then failed to protect citizens. I bet today's left can make a case in their small minds that democrat icon Bill Ayers' conduct was justified because he was protesting against evil. Ayers was guilty of about a hundred serious felonies including felony murder while his gang terrorized America for years before they blew themselves up. A federal judge dismissed all charges against Ayers while holding the FBI guilty of "illegal surveillance". The media applauded and today the former domestic terrorist is a mover and shaker in Chicago politics and a mentor of the former president That's how crazy it can get.

 

[Auld Phart]

Here lies the problem wh Trumps reaction to VA . He's basically saying Both sides are just opposite extremists views .

That's rediculous . Wanting to run minorities out of the country is an extreme view . Not likening racism is not .

Think of that Westboro baptist. Church . If you counter protest them does that make you a crazy religious freak?

Apples and oranges... for you. When you're a counter protest group coming in intent on inciting violence with the main protesters, you are just as extreme as they are.

Who had intent ? Neo nazis aren't known to be pacifists. And they came dressed up in their homemade battle gear.

Enough of this bull that they are peaceful Wall flowers :

And they came dressed up in their homemade battle gear.

Yes..

they carried shields, because have had bricks, rocks, bottles, etc thrown at them before.

They carried clubs, to defend themselves.

This wasn't their first rodeo, and they were prepared.

Who threw the first punch, timmy?

Do YOU know?

Does ANYONE know?

Weak argument, Will. Violence was erupting in pockets all over the place that morning. One fist fight/rock at a time. Could have been a shove, a particularly nasty word thrown out, any number of things that sparked the pockets of violence. That argument though--Who started it?--is the same argument teachers have every day on playground duty when two ruffians need to get hauled apart and taken to the principal's office. Essentially, they're both guilty and they both get booted for a couple days.

You are usually more mature than that.

OL, since Saturday, we have seen people on this board, the media, members of Congress, almost EVERYONE but a few here and there, and the President, blame the alt-right/kkk/ etc for starting the violence.

"Essentially, they're both guilty"

Exactly

 

[Auld Phart]

Here lies the problem wh Trumps reaction to VA . He's basically saying Both sides are just opposite extremists views .

That's rediculous . Wanting to run minorities out of the country is an extreme view . Not likening racism is not .

Think of that Westboro baptist. Church . If you counter protest them does that make you a crazy religious freak?

If the KKK is having a rally and you don't like the KKK, don't show up. You could get killed and the President won't even defend you.

If the KKK is having a rally and you don't like the KKK, don't show up.

but, if you do, leave the ball bats, clubs, rocks, bricks, broken bottles, mace, pepper spray, and noxious liquids at home.

You'll look more like protestors, and less like attackers

 

[martybegan]

Apples and oranges... for you. When you're a counter protest group coming in intent on inciting violence with the main protesters, you are just as extreme as they are.

Liberals wouldn't like it if they came to their rallies and fucked with them.

Actually it would increase their press exposure measurably.

Just like the Media built up Trump they are building these guys up into far more than they actually are.

Unfortunately, as usual, the media is catering to the public's taste, people love controversy and conflict, the media wholeheartedly caters to the public's taste because it's all about ratings. Ratings = money...........

I think with Trump they also had an agenda to throw a wrench into the Republican Primary process. They figured he would mess up the race, but I don't believe they thought he could win early on.

Once he looked to be the winner, they kept pushing him as they thought Hillary could wipe the floor with him.

Fairly strong possibility you're correct especially when one listens to the evening news with open ears and an unbiased mind, the words and descriptors being chosen by the anchors (and their writers) are undeniably biased with what appears to be intention though it's probably more subconscious manifestation than intentional subversion.

I would summarize it as such.

Phase I, "Lol lets push trump and fuck up their primary"
Phase II, "Lol lets push Trump and get him the nomination!"
Phase III "he's got the nomination! lets bash trump and get the win for Hillary
Phase IV "how the fuck did he win??? Lets bash him until he resigns or does something stupid enough to get impeached!"

 

[Ringel05]

Liberals wouldn't like it if they came to their rallies and fucked with them.

Actually it would increase their press exposure measurably.

Just like the Media built up Trump they are building these guys up into far more than they actually are.

Unfortunately, as usual, the media is catering to the public's taste, people love controversy and conflict, the media wholeheartedly caters to the public's taste because it's all about ratings. Ratings = money...........

I think with Trump they also had an agenda to throw a wrench into the Republican Primary process. They figured he would mess up the race, but I don't believe they thought he could win early on.

Once he looked to be the winner, they kept pushing him as they thought Hillary could wipe the floor with him.

Fairly strong possibility you're correct especially when one listens to the evening news with open ears and an unbiased mind, the words and descriptors being chosen by the anchors (and their writers) are undeniably biased with what appears to be intention though it's probably more subconscious manifestation than intentional subversion.

I would summarize it as such.

Phase I, "Lol lets push trump and fuck up their primary"
Phase II, "Lol lets push Trump and get him the nomination!"
Phase III "he's got the nomination! lets bash trump and get the win for Hillary
Phase IV "how the fuck did he win??? Lets bash him until he resigns or does something stupid enough to get impeached!"

I've suspected for a while that the MSM is an integral part of the swamp, since Trump the complete outsider was elected they've undoubtedly shown their hand. That's not an approval of Trump on my part just an observation, I was actually quite surprised when he was elected (not that I wanted Hillary by any stretch of the imagination) but I assumed Hillary would win simply because she was the insider. Can't bat a thousand every time.

 

[OldLady]

Here lies the problem wh Trumps reaction to VA . He's basically saying Both sides are just opposite extremists views .

That's rediculous . Wanting to run minorities out of the country is an extreme view . Not likening racism is not .

Think of that Westboro baptist. Church . If you counter protest them does that make you a crazy religious freak?

Apples and oranges... for you. When you're a counter protest group coming in intent on inciting violence with the main protesters, you are just as extreme as they are.

Who had intent ? Neo nazis aren't known to be pacifists. And they came dressed up in their homemade battle gear.

Enough of this bull that they are peaceful Wall flowers :

And they came dressed up in their homemade battle gear.

Yes..

they carried shields, because have had bricks, rocks, bottles, etc thrown at them before.

They carried clubs, to defend themselves.

This wasn't their first rodeo, and they were prepared.

Who threw the first punch, timmy?

Do YOU know?

Does ANYONE know?

Weak argument, Will. Violence was erupting in pockets all over the place that morning. One fist fight/rock at a time. Could have been a shove, a particularly nasty word thrown out, any number of things that sparked the pockets of violence. That argument though--Who started it?--is the same argument teachers have every day on playground duty when two ruffians need to get hauled apart and taken to the principal's office. Essentially, they're both guilty and they both get booted for a couple days.

You are usually more mature than that.

OL, since Saturday, we have seen people on this board, the media, members of Congress, almost EVERYONE but a few here and there, and the President, blame the alt-right/kkk/ etc for starting the violence.

"Essentially, they're both guilty"

Exactly

Yup. I see what you've seen, but I'm trying to be careful because unfortunately, many of the folks pointing fingers at the Left for the violence are defending the kkk/neo-Nazi thugs; they have an agenda I can't agree with. But I've put myself out to hang on that limb, too. Hopefully, most people know I don't share the alt-Right agenda but I'll be damned if I keep quiet when things are covered unfairly.

 

[Auld Phart]

Apples and oranges... for you. When you're a counter protest group coming in intent on inciting violence with the main protesters, you are just as extreme as they are.

Who had intent ? Neo nazis aren't known to be pacifists. And they came dressed up in their homemade battle gear.

Enough of this bull that they are peaceful Wall flowers :

And they came dressed up in their homemade battle gear.

Yes..

they carried shields, because have had bricks, rocks, bottles, etc thrown at them before.

They carried clubs, to defend themselves.

This wasn't their first rodeo, and they were prepared.

Who threw the first punch, timmy?

Do YOU know?

Does ANYONE know?

Weak argument, Will. Violence was erupting in pockets all over the place that morning. One fist fight/rock at a time. Could have been a shove, a particularly nasty word thrown out, any number of things that sparked the pockets of violence. That argument though--Who started it?--is the same argument teachers have every day on playground duty when two ruffians need to get hauled apart and taken to the principal's office. Essentially, they're both guilty and they both get booted for a couple days.

You are usually more mature than that.

OL, since Saturday, we have seen people on this board, the media, members of Congress, almost EVERYONE but a few here and there, and the President, blame the alt-right/kkk/ etc for starting the violence.

"Essentially, they're both guilty"

Exactly

Yup. I see what you've seen, but I'm trying to be careful because unfortunately, many of the folks pointing fingers at the Left for the violence are defending the kkk/neo-Nazi thugs; they have an agenda I can't agree with. But I've put myself out to hang on that limb, too. Hopefully, most people know I don't share the alt-Right agenda but I'll be damned if I keep quiet when things are covered unfairly.

but I'll be damned if I keep quiet when things are covered unfairly.

then why aren't you?