The Electoral College is as outdated as the 2nd Amendment

[Lakhota]

Time to end the Electoral College in favor of Popular Vote!

Deciding a presidential election in a country the geographical size of the U.S. using popular vote alone is not truely as representative as the electoral college.
One party could rule because they controlled a few population centers, but the rest of the country may have different needs. It makes more sense to win majority votes in more places throughout the country then having an election decided because of New York City and Los angeles and a few other large population centers.

That's a poor justification for EC. People matter - not acreage. States get to elect their federal representative. The people (popular vote) should elect the president.

No, what you don't see is a few very large population centers are much easier to bribe and control than an entire country. And what does someone who lives in Los Angeles necessarily know about the life of farmers throughout the midwest or North Dakota. Someone like Hillary or Warren in office could do an amazing amount of damage in a short period of time.... thank god for the EC

Look, there have only been FIVE presidents who didn't also win the popular vote - so your point is moot. Meaning that 40 presidents also won the popular vote.

 

[Yarddog]

Time to end the Electoral College in favor of Popular Vote!

Deciding a presidential election in a country the geographical size of the U.S. using popular vote alone is not truely as representative as the electoral college.
One party could rule because they controlled a few population centers, but the rest of the country may have different needs. It makes more sense to win majority votes in more places throughout the country then having an election decided because of New York City and Los angeles and a few other large population centers.

That's a poor justification for EC. People matter - not acreage. States get to elect their federal representative. The people (popular vote) should elect the president.

No, what you don't see is a few very large population centers are much easier to bribe and control than an entire country. And what does someone who lives in Los Angeles necessarily know about the life of farmers throughout the midwest or North Dakota. Someone like Hillary or Warren in office could do an amazing amount of damage in a short period of time.... thank god for the EC

Look, there have only been FIVE presidents who didn't also win the popular vote - so your point is moot. Meaning that 40 presidents also won the popular vote.

Well, I KNOW that had Hillary won the electoral college instead of Trump we would not be having this conversation. Had Trump lost, I would have accepted it as would have most all who voted for Trump.WHY is it that whenever Democrats lose they have to start talking about changing the rules? I mean, they changed the whistle blower rules to help get rid of Trump, and they changed Impeachment rules as well..... all to suit their needs.
Now doubt, should Democrats win a presidency, they will also attempt to stack the supreme court..... because, again, they always need to change things when they lose.
And now, its getting rid of the E.C. because they lost. Why dont they just try appealing to the needs of the country? Hillary hardly tried at all and Trump out campaigned her while she could barely stand on her own two feet.

 

[IM2]

Time to end the Electoral College in favor of Popular Vote!

Only if you want stupid people to rule the country. The Founders figured out that stupid people are stupid and need to be controlled.

Seems we got a dumb ass as president now. His existence in office validates Lakhotas statement.

 

[IM2]

Time to end the Electoral College in favor of Popular Vote!

I should have known that you were responsible for starting this incredibly stupid thread, Chief. You are SO brainwashed by our biased media, you never post ANYTHING of intellect. Go back to the reservation, Chief, and get rid of the brainwashing before posting again, PLEASE.

You are the brainwashed one. You have been radicalized by the right wing media. Deprogram.

 

[Sun Devil 92]

Presidents should be elected based on national popular votes - not electoral votes based on acreage and just rubber-stamped by partisans!

Popular vote - not acres!

In each state, whichever party garners a majority of popular votes, regardless of how narrow the margin, wins all the electoral votes. By forcing residents in each state ultimately to vote as a block, the system is supposed to ensure that small states' interests are not drowned out by those of larger states.

U.S. Electoral Vote Map

Fuck you.

 

[Sun Devil 92]

Time to end the Electoral College in favor of Popular Vote!

I should have known that you were responsible for starting this incredibly stupid thread, Chief. You are SO brainwashed by our biased media, you never post ANYTHING of intellect. Go back to the reservation, Chief, and get rid of the brainwashing before posting again, PLEASE.

You are the brainwashed one. You have been radicalized by the right wing media. Deprogram.

This is so ironic.

 

[IM2]

Time to end the Electoral College in favor of Popular Vote!

Deciding a presidential election in a country the geographical size of the U.S. using popular vote alone is not truely as representative as the electoral college.
One party could rule because they controlled a few population centers, but the rest of the country may have different needs. It makes more sense to win majority votes in more places throughout the country then having an election decided because of New York City and Los angeles and a few other large population centers.

That's a poor justification for EC. People matter - not acreage. States get to elect their federal representative. The people (popular vote) should elect the president.

No, what you don't see is a few very large population centers are much easier to bribe and control than an entire country. And what does someone who lives in Los Angeles necessarily know about the life of farmers throughout the midwest or North Dakota. Someone like Hillary or Warren in office could do an amazing amount of damage in a short period of time.... thank god for the EC

Look, there have only been FIVE presidents who didn't also win the popular vote - so your point is moot. Meaning that 40 presidents also won the popular vote.

Well, I KNOW that had Hillary won the electoral college instead of Trump we would not be having this conversation. Had Trump lost, I would have accepted it as would have most all who voted for Trump.WHY is it that whenever Democrats lose they have to start talking about changing the rules? I mean, they changed the whistle blower rules to help get rid of Trump, and they changed Impeachment rules as well..... all to suit their needs.
Now doubt, should Democrats win a presidency, they will also attempt to stack the supreme court..... because, again, they always need to change things when they lose.
And now, its getting rid of the E.C. because they lost. Why dont they just try appealing to the needs of the country? Hillary hardly tried at all and Trump out campaigned her while she could barely stand on her own two feet.

BS. If this happened to Trump, he would still be challenging the results and all the anti Hillary people would demand congress get rid of the EC. And as republicans were the majority until 2018, the EC would have been abolished. Trump didn't out campaign anyone if he lost the popular vote. Republicans support Trump because he is stacking the courts. Why do you republicans lie so fucking much?

Nobody changed any rules to get Trump. The motherfucker violated the law as well as broke his oath of office. Republicans don't get to live by a different set of rules and you need to quit believing what a person who has lied over 13,000 times tells you.

 

[IM2]

Time to end the Electoral College in favor of Popular Vote!

I should have known that you were responsible for starting this incredibly stupid thread, Chief. You are SO brainwashed by our biased media, you never post ANYTHING of intellect. Go back to the reservation, Chief, and get rid of the brainwashing before posting again, PLEASE.

You are the brainwashed one. You have been radicalized by the right wing media. Deprogram.

This is so ironic.

There is nothing ironic about it.

 

[Yarddog]

Deciding a presidential election in a country the geographical size of the U.S. using popular vote alone is not truely as representative as the electoral college.
One party could rule because they controlled a few population centers, but the rest of the country may have different needs. It makes more sense to win majority votes in more places throughout the country then having an election decided because of New York City and Los angeles and a few other large population centers.

That's a poor justification for EC. People matter - not acreage. States get to elect their federal representative. The people (popular vote) should elect the president.

No, what you don't see is a few very large population centers are much easier to bribe and control than an entire country. And what does someone who lives in Los Angeles necessarily know about the life of farmers throughout the midwest or North Dakota. Someone like Hillary or Warren in office could do an amazing amount of damage in a short period of time.... thank god for the EC

Look, there have only been FIVE presidents who didn't also win the popular vote - so your point is moot. Meaning that 40 presidents also won the popular vote.

Well, I KNOW that had Hillary won the electoral college instead of Trump we would not be having this conversation. Had Trump lost, I would have accepted it as would have most all who voted for Trump.WHY is it that whenever Democrats lose they have to start talking about changing the rules? I mean, they changed the whistle blower rules to help get rid of Trump, and they changed Impeachment rules as well..... all to suit their needs.
Now doubt, should Democrats win a presidency, they will also attempt to stack the supreme court..... because, again, they always need to change things when they lose.
And now, its getting rid of the E.C. because they lost. Why dont they just try appealing to the needs of the country? Hillary hardly tried at all and Trump out campaigned her while she could barely stand on her own two feet.

BS. If this happened to Trump, he would still be challenging the results and all the anti Hillary people would demand congress get rid of the EC. And as republicans were the majority until 2018, the EC would have been abolished. Trump didn't out campaign anyone if he lost the popular vote. Republicans support Trump because he is stacking the courts. Why do you republicans lie so fucking much?

Nobody changed any rules to get Trump. The motherfucker violated the law as well as broke his oath of office. Republicans don't get to live by a different set of rules and you need to quit believing what a person who has lied over 13,000 times tells you.

Stacking the supreme court? No he hasn't. There are still only 9 Supreme court judges. The Democrats are the ones who were talking about increasing the number to make up for the fact that Trump nominated judges. And no doubt from what I've seen from the Democrats they would certainly do that.

Trump out campaigned Hillary. Her ass was lazy and she didnt make as many road trips. FACT. It cost her in the rust belt. She could have won. Trump violated nothing , other than the opinions of some people. Some people who have been trying to impeach him from the very day he was elected, because they are Washington Elites who want to keep the status quo.
At least Clinton was not impeached until his second term. Whats going on now is bullshit and unheard of. Hillary is a whiney bitch who needs someone to blame for why she lost... all she needs to do is look in the mirror.
Court-packing, Democrats’ nuclear option for the Supreme Court, explained

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As I said, Democrats are all about changing the rules to suit their needs.

 

[Sun Devil 92]

Time to end the Electoral College in favor of Popular Vote!

Only if you want stupid people to rule the country. The Founders figured out that stupid people are stupid and need to be controlled.

Seems we got a dumb ass as president now. His existence in office validates Lakhotas statement.

If Hillary would have won, we'd have a huge dumberass as president.

And the point would be bullshit.

 

[IM2]

That's a poor justification for EC. People matter - not acreage. States get to elect their federal representative. The people (popular vote) should elect the president.

No, what you don't see is a few very large population centers are much easier to bribe and control than an entire country. And what does someone who lives in Los Angeles necessarily know about the life of farmers throughout the midwest or North Dakota. Someone like Hillary or Warren in office could do an amazing amount of damage in a short period of time.... thank god for the EC

Look, there have only been FIVE presidents who didn't also win the popular vote - so your point is moot. Meaning that 40 presidents also won the popular vote.

Well, I KNOW that had Hillary won the electoral college instead of Trump we would not be having this conversation. Had Trump lost, I would have accepted it as would have most all who voted for Trump.WHY is it that whenever Democrats lose they have to start talking about changing the rules? I mean, they changed the whistle blower rules to help get rid of Trump, and they changed Impeachment rules as well..... all to suit their needs.
Now doubt, should Democrats win a presidency, they will also attempt to stack the supreme court..... because, again, they always need to change things when they lose.
And now, its getting rid of the E.C. because they lost. Why dont they just try appealing to the needs of the country? Hillary hardly tried at all and Trump out campaigned her while she could barely stand on her own two feet.

BS. If this happened to Trump, he would still be challenging the results and all the anti Hillary people would demand congress get rid of the EC. And as republicans were the majority until 2018, the EC would have been abolished. Trump didn't out campaign anyone if he lost the popular vote. Republicans support Trump because he is stacking the courts. Why do you republicans lie so fucking much?

Nobody changed any rules to get Trump. The motherfucker violated the law as well as broke his oath of office. Republicans don't get to live by a different set of rules and you need to quit believing what a person who has lied over 13,000 times tells you.

Stacking the supreme court? No he hasn't. There are still only 9 Supreme court judges. The Democrats are the ones who were talking about increasing the number to make up for the fact that Trump nominated judges. And no doubt from what I've seen from the Democrats they would certainly do that.

Trump out campaigned Hillary. Her ass was lazy and she didnt make as many road trips. FACT. It cost her in the rust belt. She could have won. Trump violated nothing , other than the opinions of some people. Some people who have been trying to impeach him from the very day he was elected, because they are Washington Elites who want to keep the status quo.
At least Clinton was not impeached until his second term. Whats going on now is bullshit and unheard of. Hillary is a whiney bitch who needs someone to blame for why she lost... all she needs to do is look in the mirror.
Court-packing, Democrats’ nuclear option for the Supreme Court, explained

2020 Dems warm to expanding Supreme Court

As I said, Democrats are all about changing the rules to suit their needs.

Trump is stacking all the courts with right wing judges. That's why democrats are suggesting changes. And I guess denying a president to appoint a justice because liberals would be the majority is OK. Trump lost the popular vote so he didn't out campaign anyone. Clinton should never have been impeached, unless you consider him getting a blow job while working was against company standards. By the same company standards trying to stop and obstruct an investigation is a fireable offense on any job in this country.

What you just posted is what pisses me off about republicans. You're dishonest. Trump has violated laws. Over 900 prosecuting attorneys from both parties didn't sign a letter talking about how Trump obstructed justice because he violated their opinions.

 

[IM2]

Time to end the Electoral College in favor of Popular Vote!

Only if you want stupid people to rule the country. The Founders figured out that stupid people are stupid and need to be controlled.

Seems we got a dumb ass as president now. His existence in office validates Lakhotas statement.

If Hillary would have won, we'd have a huge dumberass as president.

And the point would be bullshit.

Wrong. Hillary was far more qualified and understood world affairs better than the idiot in office now.

 

[Sun Devil 92]

Time to end the Electoral College in favor of Popular Vote!

Only if you want stupid people to rule the country. The Founders figured out that stupid people are stupid and need to be controlled.

Seems we got a dumb ass as president now. His existence in office validates Lakhotas statement.

If Hillary would have won, we'd have a huge dumberass as president.

And the point would be bullshit.

Wrong. Hillary was far more qualified and understood world affairs better than the idiot in office now.

Spout this bullshit all year long.

It does not make it any less bullshit.

 

[IM2]

Time to end the Electoral College in favor of Popular Vote!

Only if you want stupid people to rule the country. The Founders figured out that stupid people are stupid and need to be controlled.

Seems we got a dumb ass as president now. His existence in office validates Lakhotas statement.

If Hillary would have won, we'd have a huge dumberass as president.

And the point would be bullshit.

Wrong. Hillary was far more qualified and understood world affairs better than the idiot in office now.

Spout this bullshit all year long.

It does not make it any less bullshit.

Too bad it's true.

 

[Third Party]

Presidents should be elected based on national popular votes - not electoral votes based on acreage and just rubber-stamped by partisans!

Popular vote - not acres!

In each state, whichever party garners a majority of popular votes, regardless of how narrow the margin, wins all the electoral votes. By forcing residents in each state ultimately to vote as a block, the system is supposed to ensure that small states' interests are not drowned out by those of larger states.

U.S. Electoral Vote Map

It keeps the executive branch and the legislative branch from complete takeovers, just like the 6 year senate term-or do you want to end that too?

 

[Sun Devil 92]

Only if you want stupid people to rule the country. The Founders figured out that stupid people are stupid and need to be controlled.

Seems we got a dumb ass as president now. His existence in office validates Lakhotas statement.

If Hillary would have won, we'd have a huge dumberass as president.

And the point would be bullshit.

Wrong. Hillary was far more qualified and understood world affairs better than the idiot in office now.

Spout this bullshit all year long.

It does not make it any less bullshit.

Too bad it's true.

I agree it is true that it is total bullshit.

 

[Picaro]

The middle class lost any ability to rule itself in the 1960's anyway, and 'Da Constitution' was rendered irrelevant in 1861 and is changed by whoever can appoint Judges to Federal benches and the SC. Quit kidding yourselves, you don't live under a real set of laws, just fashionable whims; this country can't even keep truly sick scumbags away from its school children any more, might offend some mental case and make them feel all oppressed or something.

 

[Picaro]

Btw the statement you made about the states is wrong, Each state decides how to disburse their electors, they are not all one take all. The dimshit scum have tried to make all of the states that usually vote for them WTA states simply because they ALWAYS LOSE if each elector is made to vote as each district votes. just as the counties in the country voted 90% for Trump and 10% for shitbitch. If you are really NAtive AMerican do your people elect the head of the Tribal council by popular vote? or do the members of the council decide their leader?

lol 'Native American' Tribal Councils are a joke, more corrupt than any Mafia family.

 

[Cellblock2429]

Time to end the Electoral College in favor of Popular Vote!

Only if you want stupid people to rule the country. The Founders figured out that stupid people are stupid and need to be controlled.

Stupid people will rule either way - so let the popular vote decide the outcome.

/——/ Why?

 

[tycho1572]

Presidents should be elected based on national popular votes - not electoral votes based on acreage and just rubber-stamped by partisans!

Popular vote - not acres!

In each state, whichever party garners a majority of popular votes, regardless of how narrow the margin, wins all the electoral votes. By forcing residents in each state ultimately to vote as a block, the system is supposed to ensure that small states' interests are not drowned out by those of larger states.

U.S. Electoral Vote Map

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