The End Is Near....The Final Curtain

I accept the result of the election and condemn the ridiculous hyper-partisanship and hate among both left and right wingers.

In fact right here on this board I've posted disagreement with lefty that was driving Trump-is-a-Nazi hyperbole.

Now that your silly dodge is put away, it is time to retract the false bullshit you are spreading about what I've said.
See, unlike the orange buffoon Obama was born with his skin color so when you fault him for it you sound like a racist.

The carnage? You mean economic recovery, growth, now popular healthcare reform and high end-of-presidency approval with a solid place in history for his Presidency?


What the hell is your point? How does me calling Trump orange buffoon (which he is) prove what you said about me?
you claimed you didn't call anyone racist with your arguments concerning trump. well here is your quote:

" skin color so when you fault him for it you sound like a racist."

using insults to respond rather than debating is what I'm discussing. and BTW, orange buffoon is still an insult.


NOOO, what I said was that I didn't call TRUMP a racist (he just panders to them)

Certainly I WOULD call a racist those that ARE racist and on this board we have a few that openly embrace that label.

Nor did I EVER say that I never insult. So again you are making shit up.

Time for that retract.
there you go, way to step out and prove my point. saves me from going to other searches now. you are exactly what I said you were.

WTF is wrong with you? What point do you think my post proved?

And why won't you retract your bullshit about me calling trump racist or commie or nazi? We both know you can't support it, so time to MAN UP AND DO THE RIGHT THING.
 


What the hell is your point? How does me calling Trump orange buffoon (which he is) prove what you said about me?
you claimed you didn't call anyone racist with your arguments concerning trump. well here is your quote:

" skin color so when you fault him for it you sound like a racist."

using insults to respond rather than debating is what I'm discussing. and BTW, orange buffoon is still an insult.


NOOO, what I said was that I didn't call TRUMP a racist (he just panders to them)

Certainly I WOULD call a racist those that ARE racist and on this board we have a few that openly embrace that label.

Nor did I EVER say that I never insult. So again you are making shit up.

Time for that retract.
there you go, way to step out and prove my point. saves me from going to other searches now. you are exactly what I said you were.

WTF is wrong with you? What point do you think my post proved?

And why won't you retract your bullshit about me calling trump racist or commie or nazi? We both know you can't support it, so time to MAN UP AND DO THE RIGHT THING.
sure you just stated he panders to racist. well dah, that means he is. You can't imply something and then back out. sorry bubba. you are what you are.
 
Stop lying the memorializing of America's founding was based on individualism, free markets, and limited constitutional governance.


You and every totalitarian demand the bending of the knee and the neck to big government....this:
. the collective, command and control regulation of private industry, and overarching government that can order every aspect of the private citizen's life....right down to control of his thoughts and speech.



But....I certainly hope you continue to make your lies this easy to obliterate.

Communism, National Socialism, Liberalism, Progressivism.....all have a the central doctrine:
"....an all-encompassing state that centralizes power to perfect human nature...."
Goldberg, Liberal Fascism

Individualism and limited government are liberalism, little dummy.
are you for real? Let me help you.

Conservative vs. Liberal Beliefs

"Liberals believe in government action to achieve equal opportunity and equality for all. It is the duty of the government to alleviate social ills and to protect civil liberties and individual and human rights. Believe the role of the government should be to guarantee that no one is in need. Liberal policies generally emphasize the need for the government to solve problems.
Conservatives believe in personal responsibility, limited government, free markets, individual liberty, traditional American values and a strong national defense. Believe the role of government should be to provide people the freedom necessary to pursue their own goals. Conservative policies generally emphasize empowerment of the individual to solve problems."
More government = less liberty. Less government = more liberty


You mean like the liberty to enslave?

Or the liberty to destroy the environment and poison people?

The liberty of the economically advantaged to take full advantage of the economically disadvantaged?

Those types of liberties?
If America is so bad go to North Korea...stop trying to make a communist state here.



I believe the horse is out of the barn already.

And that was my point in comparing the recent British election to how close Marxist Bernie Sander was to being the Democrat's nominee.....

...and the communist might well have won: look at some of the posters here.
 
Individualism and limited government are liberalism, little dummy.

That's is so ridiculous I had to read it 3 times.

Democrats are the part of big government and Socialism.

Obamacare is NOT sign of limited government. Out of control EA regulations are NOT a sign of limitex government. High taxes is NOT a sign of limited government. Wanting a "Cradle-to-Grave" society is NOT believing in a limited government.

All of the programs and safety nets Democrats would will require a massive bureaucracy to manage and even higher taxes.

Like I said earlier on this thread about "blue colored glasses"... Life must be sublime when hiding behind them.
 
Is this liberal nation, founding using liberalism, annoying you again, Korean girl?
Of course, the regressives would be screaming RACIST if a right winger had said something like that.
.

Most progressives, like SockBoy Righty, are despicable scumbags

Scumbags don't defend your rights but liberals like me do. Suck it, fool.
I'll defend your right to embarrass yourself and get spanked repeatedly by PC.

count on that

She couldn't spank me if she had a real education and the rest of her Korean family,

What does her Korean family have to do your losing every argument with her and having to resort to insults?
 
the previous president when he put a red line in the sand and walked backward

The line needed to be drawn and even our current President saw the necessity in an attack that was by magnitude 10 times less deadly as the one Obama was responding to. But Obama should have known the hypocritical Republicans would never have his back.

No support from Congress. A no vote by the UK. Republicans overwhelmingly rejected a military strike by Obama, but overwhelmingly supported Trumps even though the magnitude of the Chemical attack was so much less. Nope the GOP left Obama with his dick swinging in the wind. Even still there were war ships heading for the Syrian coast for a strike (like the one Trump authorized I bet) when Kerry made them an offer Putin couldn't refuse.
 
Individualism and limited government are liberalism, little dummy.

That's is so ridiculous I had to read it 3 times.

Democrats are the part of big government and Socialism.

Obamacare is NOT sign of limited government. Out of control EA regulations are NOT a sign of limitex government. High taxes is NOT a sign of limited government. Wanting a "Cradle-to-Grave" society is NOT believing in a limited government.

All of the programs and safety nets Democrats would will require a massive bureaucracy to manage and even higher taxes.

Like I said earlier on this thread about "blue colored glasses"... Life must be sublime when hiding behind them.


"That's is so ridiculous I had to read it 3 times.

Democrats are the part of big government and Socialism."

Nicely put.

It appears that not being restricted by accuracy, truth or education is one of the perqs of being a Liberal.
 
Stop lying the memorializing of America's founding was based on individualism, free markets, and limited constitutional governance.


You and every totalitarian demand the bending of the knee and the neck to big government....this:
. the collective, command and control regulation of private industry, and overarching government that can order every aspect of the private citizen's life....right down to control of his thoughts and speech.



But....I certainly hope you continue to make your lies this easy to obliterate.

Communism, National Socialism, Liberalism, Progressivism.....all have a the central doctrine:
"....an all-encompassing state that centralizes power to perfect human nature...."
Goldberg, Liberal Fascism

Individualism and limited government are liberalism, little dummy.
are you for real? Let me help you.

Conservative vs. Liberal Beliefs

"Liberals believe in government action to achieve equal opportunity and equality for all. It is the duty of the government to alleviate social ills and to protect civil liberties and individual and human rights. Believe the role of the government should be to guarantee that no one is in need. Liberal policies generally emphasize the need for the government to solve problems.
Conservatives believe in personal responsibility, limited government, free markets, individual liberty, traditional American values and a strong national defense. Believe the role of government should be to provide people the freedom necessary to pursue their own goals. Conservative policies generally emphasize empowerment of the individual to solve problems."
More government = less liberty. Less government = more liberty


You mean like the liberty to enslave?

Or the liberty to destroy the environment and poison people?

The liberty of the economically advantaged to take full advantage of the economically disadvantaged?

Those types of liberties?


Enslave????


Slave
noun
historical

1.a person who is the legal property of another and is forced to obey them.
Google

Reality is defined by actions, not by words....soooo....if current Democrat royalty behaved as though slavery was their right.....it would prove everything this thread claims.
Is it possible that the current champion of the Democrat Party.....the current Democrat Party.....was copacetic with having slaves????
Having a person who is the legal property of another and is forced to obey them?????

You betcha'!!!!



2. "Hillary Clinton Accused of Using ‘Convicted Murderer Slaves’ To Serve Her in Governor’s Mansion
When we moved in, I was told that using prison labor at the governor’s mansion was a longstanding tradition, which kept down costs, and I was assured that the inmates were carefully screened. I was also told the onetime murders were far the preferred security risks.

I saw and learned a lot as I got to know them better. We enforced rules strictly and sent back to prison any inmate who broke a rule.

....over the years we lived there, we became friendly with a few of them, African-American men ....

maple cocaine @historyinflicks
Me: Bill & Hillary Clinton had slaves

Lib: They weren't slaves! They were prisoners learning a vocation

Me: What vocation?

Lib: Servitude

4:52 AM - 7 Jun 2017"
Hillary Clinton Accused of Using ‘Convicted Murderer Slaves’ To Serve Her in Governor’s Mansion





3. Oh....BTW....did I mention that the Democrat Party is now, and has always been, the party of slavery, segregation, and second-class citizenship?

Going to tell us you admire Lincoln and his liberal views?
 
Equating liberals to classic liberalism is quite amusing.

There are still classic liberals around. I am one.

I disagree. The vibe I get from you is indoctrinated derp, sorry.

Allow me to explain the difference.

Liberals have had a classic liberal education, yet still their heart bleeds.

I had a classic liberal education. I am currently a Democrat. That will change

before November,most likely.

That is not you.

I'm sympathetic to your plight, but no, you're not a liberal.


Leftist lemming is what applies to you comes to mind.
 
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Yep, you can't defend liberty. Normal for fascists.

Your definition of liberty must be drastically different than ours. Why don't you explain what yours is so that we can get a better understanding of where you're coming from.

Liberty is being left the fuck alone (within reason). Liberty is street preachers, NAMBLA, and the burka.
 
the previous president when he put a red line in the sand and walked backward

The line needed to be drawn and even our current President saw the necessity in an attack that was by magnitude 10 times less deadly as the one Obama was responding to. But Obama should have known the hypocritical Republicans would never have his back.

No support from Congress. A no vote by the UK. Republicans overwhelmingly rejected a military strike by Obama, but overwhelmingly supported Trumps even though the magnitude of the Chemical attack was so much less. Nope the GOP left Obama with his dick swinging in the wind. Even still there were war ships heading for the Syrian coast for a strike (like the one Trump authorized I bet) when Kerry made them an offer Putin couldn't refuse.


Seems you've decided to ignore this....his roiling the Middle East due to duplicity, incompetence and his being a crypto-Islamist:


Obama made a huge mistake in refusing to negotiate an agreement to leave US troops in Iraq.
This is the source of the problem with ISIS: they're there because we weren't.
"Obama's 2012 Debate Boast: I Didn't Want to Leave Any Troops in Iraq
Obama then denied that he ever supported a status of forces agreement that would have left troops in Iraq:

MR. ROMNEY: [W]ith regards to Iraq, you and I agreed, I believe, that there should have been a status of forces agreement. Did you —

PRESIDENT OBAMA:That's not true.

MR. ROMNEY:Oh, you didn't — you didn't want a status of forces agreement?

PRESIDENT OBAMA:No, but what I — what I would not have done is left 10,000 troops in Iraq that would tie us down. That certainly would not help us in the Middle East.

"Here's one thing I've learned as commander in chief," Obama said at the end of the exchange. "You've got to be clear, both to our allies and our enemies, about where you stand and what you mean."
[Yeah....he really said that!]
Obama s 2012 Debate Boast I Didn t Want to Leave Any Troops in Iraq The Weekly Standard



a. "This month, Colin Kahl, the senior Pentagon official in charge of Iraq policy at the time, explained why the White House insisted on Iraq’s parliament approving the changes to the SOFA.

He wrote inPolitico Magazinethat in 2011 Iraq’s prime minister, Nouri al-Maliki, “told U.S. negotiators that he was willing to sign an executive memorandum of understanding that included these legal protections.

Yet this time around, Obama is willing to accept an agreement from Iraq’s foreign ministry on U.S. forces in Iraq without a vote of Iraq’s parliament. “We believe we need a separate set of assurances from the Iraqis,” one senior U.S. defense official told The Daily Beast on Sunday. This official said this would likely be an agreement or exchange of diplomatic notes from the Iraq’s foreign ministry. “We basically need a piece of paper from them,” another U.S. official involved in the negotiations told The Daily Beast. The official didn’t explain why the parliamentary vote, so crucial three years ago, was no longer needed.”
Obama Does a U-Turn on Immunity for U.S. Troops in Iraq - The Daily Beast

Obama rejected it.

Effectively, he created and supported ISIS.


I knew where the snake's interests lay when I saw this....and not a single bomb or missile from the US:

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What the hell is your point? How does me calling Trump orange buffoon (which he is) prove what you said about me?
you claimed you didn't call anyone racist with your arguments concerning trump. well here is your quote:

" skin color so when you fault him for it you sound like a racist."

using insults to respond rather than debating is what I'm discussing. and BTW, orange buffoon is still an insult.


NOOO, what I said was that I didn't call TRUMP a racist (he just panders to them)

Certainly I WOULD call a racist those that ARE racist and on this board we have a few that openly embrace that label.

Nor did I EVER say that I never insult. So again you are making shit up.

Time for that retract.
there you go, way to step out and prove my point. saves me from going to other searches now. you are exactly what I said you were.

WTF is wrong with you? What point do you think my post proved?

And why won't you retract your bullshit about me calling trump racist or commie or nazi? We both know you can't support it, so time to MAN UP AND DO THE RIGHT THING.
sure you just stated he panders to racist. well dah, that means he is. You can't imply something and then back out. sorry bubba. you are what you are.

That's is BECAUSE HE DID.

If you are a racist white nationalist Trump was your guy, no two ways about it.

KKK's David Duke fully endorsed him and Trump for a long time refused to denounce the endorsement.

David Duke: Trump win a great victory for 'our people'
 
the previous president when he put a red line in the sand and walked backward

The line needed to be drawn and even our current President saw the necessity in an attack that was by magnitude 10 times less deadly as the one Obama was responding to. But Obama should have known the hypocritical Republicans would never have his back.

No support from Congress. A no vote by the UK. Republicans overwhelmingly rejected a military strike by Obama, but overwhelmingly supported Trumps even though the magnitude of the Chemical attack was so much less. Nope the GOP left Obama with his dick swinging in the wind. Even still there were war ships heading for the Syrian coast for a strike (like the one Trump authorized I bet) when Kerry made them an offer Putin couldn't refuse.


Seems you've decided to ignore this....his roiling the Middle East due to duplicity, incompetence and his being a crypto-Islamist:


Obama made a huge mistake in refusing to negotiate an agreement to leave US troops in Iraq.
This is the source of the problem with ISIS: they're there because we weren't.
"Obama's 2012 Debate Boast: I Didn't Want to Leave Any Troops in Iraq
Obama then denied that he ever supported a status of forces agreement that would have left troops in Iraq:

MR. ROMNEY: [W]ith regards to Iraq, you and I agreed, I believe, that there should have been a status of forces agreement. Did you —

PRESIDENT OBAMA:That's not true.

MR. ROMNEY:Oh, you didn't — you didn't want a status of forces agreement?

PRESIDENT OBAMA:No, but what I — what I would not have done is left 10,000 troops in Iraq that would tie us down. That certainly would not help us in the Middle East.

"Here's one thing I've learned as commander in chief," Obama said at the end of the exchange. "You've got to be clear, both to our allies and our enemies, about where you stand and what you mean."
[Yeah....he really said that!]
Obama s 2012 Debate Boast I Didn t Want to Leave Any Troops in Iraq The Weekly Standard



a. "This month, Colin Kahl, the senior Pentagon official in charge of Iraq policy at the time, explained why the White House insisted on Iraq’s parliament approving the changes to the SOFA.

He wrote inPolitico Magazinethat in 2011 Iraq’s prime minister, Nouri al-Maliki, “told U.S. negotiators that he was willing to sign an executive memorandum of understanding that included these legal protections.

Yet this time around, Obama is willing to accept an agreement from Iraq’s foreign ministry on U.S. forces in Iraq without a vote of Iraq’s parliament. “We believe we need a separate set of assurances from the Iraqis,” one senior U.S. defense official told The Daily Beast on Sunday. This official said this would likely be an agreement or exchange of diplomatic notes from the Iraq’s foreign ministry. “We basically need a piece of paper from them,” another U.S. official involved in the negotiations told The Daily Beast. The official didn’t explain why the parliamentary vote, so crucial three years ago, was no longer needed.”
Obama Does a U-Turn on Immunity for U.S. Troops in Iraq - The Daily Beast

Obama rejected it.

Effectively, he created and supported ISIS.


I knew where the snake's interests lay when I saw this....and not a single bomb or missile from the US:

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Where did all those new Toyotas come from?

I suppose originally Japan, no?
 
Yep, you can't defend liberty. Normal for fascists.

Your definition of liberty must be drastically different than ours. Why don't you explain what yours is so that we can get a better understanding of where you're coming from.

Liberty is when the government decides everything for you

Said no one, ever.

It's the cornerstone of modern Liberalism; more power to the government, less to the individual
 

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