The fact that Trump is hardly doing rallies and having Vance do them

[krichton]

Show me the statute where that is spelled out, Krichton! Tell me what person the President of the United States needs to get PERMISSION from to classify materials!

"The search warrant executed at Mar-a-Lago cited as “probable cause” violations of relevant parts of the Presidential Records Act, which does not carry criminal penalties, as well as three provisions of criminal law: a part of the Espionage Act that deals with the mishandling of “national defense information” (18 U.S.C. § 793); a records-related obstruction statute (18 U.S.C. § 1519); and a third that deals with the mishandling of public records (18 U.S.C. § 2071)."

Then there's executive order 13526

"In all cases, however, a formal procedure for recording and memorializing classification decisions is required so governmental agencies know with certainty what has been declassified. A federal appeals court in a 2020 Freedom of Information Act case, New York Times v. CIA, underscored that point in denying the paper access to documents after tweets by then-President Trump regarding a covert program in Syria. “Declassification cannot occur unless designated officials follow specified procedures,” the court said, citing Obama’s 2009 executive order in a footnote."

Ultimately none of this matters because Trump admitted on tape he never declassified any of the stuff he took. Anything else?

 

[Marener]

There is a legal question as to what rights a former President should have to possess materials generated while in office

Its not actually a legal question to anyone how had the ability to read the law. Presidential Records Act says that all those documents belong to the government and are to be turned over to their custody.

 

[Man With A Plan]

Its not actually a legal question to anyone how had the ability to read the law. Presidential Records Act says that all those documents belong to the government and are to be turned over to their custody.

And yet there is a long tradition of allowing Presidents to keep documents upon leaving office so it is indeed a legal question...a question that should have been decided in the courts...not at gunpoint with an FBI Swat Team raid!

 

[Man With A Plan]

"The search warrant executed at Mar-a-Lago cited as “probable cause” violations of relevant parts of the Presidential Records Act, which does not carry criminal penalties, as well as three provisions of criminal law: a part of the Espionage Act that deals with the mishandling of “national defense information” (18 U.S.C. § 793); a records-related obstruction statute (18 U.S.C. § 1519); and a third that deals with the mishandling of public records (18 U.S.C. § 2071)."

Then there's executive order 13526

"In all cases, however, a formal procedure for recording and memorializing classification decisions is required so governmental agencies know with certainty what has been declassified. A federal appeals court in a 2020 Freedom of Information Act case, New York Times v. CIA, underscored that point in denying the paper access to documents after tweets by then-President Trump regarding a covert program in Syria. “Declassification cannot occur unless designated officials follow specified procedures,” the court said, citing Obama’s 2009 executive order in a footnote."

Ultimately none of this matters because Trump admitted on tape he never declassified any of the stuff he took. Anything else?

It's a given that the President is the ultimate authority on classification...the EO you're referring to applies to officials other than the President.

 

[Marener]

And yet there is a long tradition of allowing Presidents to keep documents upon leaving office so it is indeed a legal question...a question that should have been decided in the courts...not at gunpoint with an FBI Swat Team raid!

False. There is no tradition of allowing presidents to keep documents. Certainly not after the PRA was passed specifically to prevent them from doing so.

 

[airplanemechanic]

Nobody's fault but his own.

staged.

Nope, not really a thing from this side.

Fake news. tRump's legal issues are self generated.

Do you really wanna admit to being as petty minded as he is?

Um, I showed multiple quotes with multiple attacks of his son, wife and children. So fuck you.

 

[Man With A Plan]

If it makes you happy to continually say that Biden stuffed documents down his pants, have at it, lmao. I know this is may shock you, but when you hand something back without anyone even asking for it, you won't be treated as a criminal. No one searched Mike Pence's home either. Is this how Trump acted? Did he offer to hand back the documents he stole without anyone asking for them? Nope. He not only refused, but he hid them. This is what criminals do, and that's why he was indicted.

No Trump is your ultimate authority. That's where his authority ends.

How do YOU think Senator Joe Biden removed those documents from the secure room in which he was reading them? He had to have hidden them somewhere. That's a crime, Krichton. Why hasn't he been charged?

 

[Marener]

Um, I showed multiple quotes with multiple attacks of his son, wife and children. So fuck you.

Oh? Did anyone steal and publicize the private diary of one of his kids who was never involved in any of his political campaigns?

 

[Crepitus]

Um, I showed multiple quotes with multiple attacks of his son, wife and children. So fuck you.

Nobody attacked his family. get over it.

You want family attacks? You weirdos are still photoshopping dicks onto Michelle Obama.

 

[Hector12]

Nope, we've seen what 4 years of cumalot looks like. Nobody wants to go back to that. We'll take low inflation and mean tweets anyday.

Trump's only cure for the economy is more tax cuts for the rich. Isn't the national debt high enough to please him?