The first same sex incestuous marriage

[Picaro]

Once perversion is accepted as normal, it is all normalized. Once same sex marriage was legalized there are no arguments against incestuous marriages or plural marriages. It doesn't matter whether they are homosexual or heterosexual.

The psychiatric world WILL weasel ALL forms of abhorrent behavior into a social issue that will eventually have to be looked upon, at first with sympathy, and later, with acceptance.

Except the plan will fail, look how much opposition there already is to this Perverted Agenda, each day the opposition gets larger, all they have is name calling and less and less people give a crap about what names they're called now.

It would take maybe two weeks to kill their agenda; all it takes is a media reporting the real facts about the degenerates, show a few of those 'Pride' parades in their entirety uncensored along with their other favorite 'pastimes'. We saw this with Prop 8 in California even, a liberal loon state, getting passed.

LOL- meanwhile in reality- Americans now favor same gender marriage more than ever.

They're ignorant, and as the Prop 8 votes show, they change their minds when they see real facts. Too bad for you and the other fetishists that's the case, eh? The same methods that 'increase tolerance' for degenerates also work to the other way, dumbass, and those opposed to the gay right hoax have the real facts on their side, unlike your drooling juvenile idiocy. Your helpful media has lost any credibility with the public any more, so you need to get that plane ticket to New Zealand locked in so you can your fellow mentally ill sociopaths in exile.

 

[Syriusly]

Once perversion is accepted as normal, it is all normalized. Once same sex marriage was legalized there are no arguments against incestuous marriages or plural marriages. It doesn't matter whether they are homosexual or heterosexual.

Using the 14th amendment as the basis to determine who has the right to marry, I can't see a rational legal basis to deny family members their constitutial right.

And the reality is- if for example this mom- and her son- or her daughter went to court to argue that they had the right under the 14th Amendment to marry, the State would have to have have a rational legal basis to deny them that right.

You don't think that the State has one.

Of course- if that is true- the State didn't have a rational legal right to deny them marriage 20 years ago either.

Obergefell didn't change the Constitution- or the 14th Amendment. Indeed part of Obergefell was the recognition that previously when the courts had uphead laws against same gender marriage- that same sex sodomy was illegal. Obergefell noted:

Same-sex couples have the same right as opposite-sex couples to enjoy intimate association, a right extending beyond mere freedom from laws making same-sex intimacy a criminal offense. See Lawrence, supra, at 567.

As you noted- incest is still illegal- same sex sodomy is not still illegal. The courts in Obergefell noted that marriage is included in the right to 'enjoy intimate association'.

So your first step to making incestuous marriage legal- is to overturn the laws against incest.

Now you know your path- let us know how it turns out.

 

[Syriusly]

LOL- just can't help pointing out the rest of the story:

Court records show this isn’t the first time Patricia has married one of her own children.


She also married one of her sons in 2008.

Which according to 'Tipsy' logic means

Of course a heterosexual is going to fuck her son. Thats why heterosexuals have children. They are perverts

Why is this such a problem to you?

Can you name a single state law that makes sex a requirement of marriage?

Why is that such a problem for me?

There is also no legal assumption that a marriage will not include sex.

More importantly though, I have a problem with the issue of undue influence.

Mothers and fathers are in position of authority over their children that could easily- and has been way to often- abused in relationships.

That is the primary reason for the ban on such marriages.

But if you want to go to court to argue for your right to marry your daughter- I support your right to go to court to seek redress.

Undue influence can occur in relationships of unrelated persons as well.

That's why a legal contract is only legitimate if both parties consent. That consent is not your, or my concern.

You fought this as a 14th amendment right, now you wish denial of that right to others.

You've become quite the bigot.

You understand that Incest can still be illegal, right?

So much for your argument

LOL- you think that incest should be legal too? If not you are a bigot- right?

Please supply the quote. I've said many times that incest should remain illegal.

So you are a bigot.

Because you are against incest.

Like I am a bigot- because I am against incestuous marriage.

 

[Syriusly]

Once perversion is accepted as normal, it is all normalized. Once same sex marriage was legalized there are no arguments against incestuous marriages or plural marriages. It doesn't matter whether they are homosexual or heterosexual.

The psychiatric world WILL weasel ALL forms of abhorrent behavior into a social issue that will eventually have to be looked upon, at first with sympathy, and later, with acceptance.

Except the plan will fail, look how much opposition there already is to this Perverted Agenda, each day the opposition gets larger, all they have is name calling and less and less people give a crap about what names they're called now.

It would take maybe two weeks to kill their agenda; all it takes is a media reporting the real facts about the degenerates, show a few of those 'Pride' parades in their entirety uncensored along with their other favorite 'pastimes'. We saw this with Prop 8 in California even, a liberal loon state, getting passed.

LOL- meanwhile in reality- Americans now favor same gender marriage more than ever.

They're ignorant, .

So you are saying that the majority of Americans are ignorant- and you aren't?

LOL- well that is typical of the right wing nut jobs

 

[Moonglow]

Weren't we assured that gays couldn't be this perverted?

Oklahoma mother, daughter arrested after alleged incestuous marriage

Of course a lesbian is going to fuck her daughter. That's why gays have children. They are perverts.

Uhm, how do they fuck, neither have a penis....??

 

[Moonglow]

What makes you say this woman is a lesbian?

She had already married one of her sons.

Female on female sex is called lesbian. It made all the major reports for at least the last four decades.

No, female on female sex is called cunnilingus. Or possibly scissoring.

"Lesbian" is defined as a woman who is attracted to their own sex.

Would you at the very least agree this woman is a pervert?

It was okay for Adam and Eve's kids, it's good enough for today's kids...

 

[Pop23]

Why is this such a problem to you?

Can you name a single state law that makes sex a requirement of marriage?

Why is that such a problem for me?

There is also no legal assumption that a marriage will not include sex.

More importantly though, I have a problem with the issue of undue influence.

Mothers and fathers are in position of authority over their children that could easily- and has been way to often- abused in relationships.

That is the primary reason for the ban on such marriages.

But if you want to go to court to argue for your right to marry your daughter- I support your right to go to court to seek redress.

Undue influence can occur in relationships of unrelated persons as well.

That's why a legal contract is only legitimate if both parties consent. That consent is not your, or my concern.

You fought this as a 14th amendment right, now you wish denial of that right to others.

You've become quite the bigot.

You understand that Incest can still be illegal, right?

So much for your argument

LOL- you think that incest should be legal too? If not you are a bigot- right?

Please supply the quote. I've said many times that incest should remain illegal.

So you are a bigot.

Because you are against incest.

Like I am a bigot- because I am against incestuous marriage.

I am against incest. I can and have stated a rational legal basis to keep incest illegal.

You have yet to supply a rational legal basis to deny a constitutional right, to a contract that does not require sex as a requirement within that contract, to any two individuals that wish to enter.

Except you think it's icky.

Making you a bigot.

 

[Syriusly]

Why is that such a problem for me?

There is also no legal assumption that a marriage will not include sex.

More importantly though, I have a problem with the issue of undue influence.

Mothers and fathers are in position of authority over their children that could easily- and has been way to often- abused in relationships.

That is the primary reason for the ban on such marriages.

But if you want to go to court to argue for your right to marry your daughter- I support your right to go to court to seek redress.

Undue influence can occur in relationships of unrelated persons as well.

That's why a legal contract is only legitimate if both parties consent. That consent is not your, or my concern.

You fought this as a 14th amendment right, now you wish denial of that right to others.

You've become quite the bigot.

You understand that Incest can still be illegal, right?

So much for your argument

LOL- you think that incest should be legal too? If not you are a bigot- right?

Please supply the quote. I've said many times that incest should remain illegal.

So you are a bigot.

Because you are against incest.

Like I am a bigot- because I am against incestuous marriage.

I am against incest. I can and have stated a rational legal basis to keep incest illegal..

By the same standards that makes you a bigot.

You are okay with a man and woman having sex- but not a related man and a woman- which makes you a bigot.

I am okay with a man and a woman getting married- but not a mother marrying her son or daughter- which you say makes me a bigot.

No way around it- if I am a bigot- that makes you a bigot.

 

[Moonglow]

The blue bloods of the N.E. aristocrats didn't mind keeping their family members close, to keep their wealth closer....

 

[beagle9]

She already married one of her sons? Why didn't the OP pick up on THAT?????

She's bisexual? She certainly has lesbian tendencies which makes her a pervert.

Since time began, a Normal Society has meant men with women and women with men, breeding and furthering Civilisation, as The Bible says go forth and multiply.

A man and a man cannot do this, a woman and a woman cannot do this, unless it's the turkey baster or a surrogate mother, both methods are abnormal and unnatural ways of breeding.

The Agenda is designed to weaken society, by introducing all sorts of abnormal and unnatural practices into the population, which in turn will weaken society.

The Agenda's biggest fear is men and women having more children, but they promote Homosexuals and Lesbians being allowed to bring children into their abnormal environment, either through adoption, turkey basting or surrogate mothers, all three methods should be outlawed.

Normal Society has always been Heterosexual couples parenting children, either through the normal method of breeding or through adoption.

So you think that 'Normal Society' includes a mother marrying her son? Since it would be a heterosexual female marrying a male?

Which fits everything you laid out in your post- and oh and by the way- what this mother did with her son.

The Agenda- of right wing nut jobs like yourself- has always been for government to control people- their reproductive rights, how they can have sex, who they can have sex with- and when they are allowed to have sex.

"So you think that 'Normal Society' includes a mother marrying her son? Since it would be a heterosexual female marrying a male?"

You are an idiot, I spent the first half of this thread condemning that as it's incest.

Yet you didn't mention that in your post at all.

The Agenda- of right wing nut jobs like yourself- has always been for government to control people- their reproductive rights, how they can have sex, who they can have sex with- and when they are allowed to have sex

. No people just want to promote what they see as the norm in their lives, and when they have millions in agreement with them, then who are those to denie them their society in which they choose freely to live in ? If their are those who want to live in such a society because their numbers aren't strong enough to oppose it, then I suggest they keep their activities in the bedroom or move to a society that is OK with their open wants and needs in life. The attempt to denie people of their rights to be free from the bull crap, and especially when they are millions strong is just wrong and you know it. I must applaud the opposition group though, because somehow they have squashed millions of people's rights to be free from such things intruding into their lives, and they have wildly done it with a few hundred thousand people maybe ? That is flat outright amazing really.

 

[Bush92]

Weren't we assured that gays couldn't be this perverted?

Oklahoma mother, daughter arrested after alleged incestuous marriage

Of course a lesbian is going to fuck her daughter. That's why gays have children. They are perverts.

Two more votes for Hillary.

 

[JoeMoma]

Weren't we assured that gays couldn't be this perverted?

Oklahoma mother, daughter arrested after alleged incestuous marriage

Of course a lesbian is going to fuck her daughter. That's why gays have children. They are perverts.

They were arrested.

The system worked.

What's the issue.

Or are you mad because they won't let you marry your brother?

And now they have standing to challenge the law under perhaps the equal protection clause. The case could go all the way to the Supreme Court and boom -- can declare laws against same sex incestual marriage unconstitutional.

 

[idb]

Once perversion is accepted as normal, it is all normalized. Once same sex marriage was legalized there are no arguments against incestuous marriages or plural marriages. It doesn't matter whether they are homosexual or heterosexual.

The ol' "slippery slope" argument eh?

WTF: do you not understand that legal marriage DOES NOT REQUIRE SEXUAL CONTACT? Incest is ILLEGAL REGARDLESS OF MARITAL STATUS.

So what rational legal basis is there to deny this to any two people.

Ah, but soon people will be marrying goats, and dogs and refrigerators.
You know how the argument goes.

 

[Pop23]

Undue influence can occur in relationships of unrelated persons as well.

That's why a legal contract is only legitimate if both parties consent. That consent is not your, or my concern.

You fought this as a 14th amendment right, now you wish denial of that right to others.

You've become quite the bigot.

You understand that Incest can still be illegal, right?

So much for your argument

LOL- you think that incest should be legal too? If not you are a bigot- right?

Please supply the quote. I've said many times that incest should remain illegal.

So you are a bigot.

Because you are against incest.

Like I am a bigot- because I am against incestuous marriage.

I am against incest. I can and have stated a rational legal basis to keep incest illegal..

By the same standards that makes you a bigot.

You are okay with a man and woman having sex- but not a related man and a woman- which makes you a bigot.

I am okay with a man and a woman getting married- but not a mother marrying her son or daughter- which you say makes me a bigot.

No way around it- if I am a bigot- that makes you a bigot.

There you go again mixing issues.

There is a compelling state interest to deny incestous relationships.

Sorry dude, it's a fact that those relationships cause pain and suffering beyond the relationship itself. That pain can go on for generations. Our government has a duty to protect the innocent. That's not bigotted, that's logic.

Marriage does not include a requirement of sexual relations not a duty for sexual relations.

You assume it must, making you not only a bigot, but it's funnier than hell........


YOURE ARGUMENT IS BASED ON TRADITIONAL MARRIAGE VALUES!

Ladies and gentleman, YOU CAN'T MAKE THIS SHIT UP!

 

[Pop23]

Once perversion is accepted as normal, it is all normalized. Once same sex marriage was legalized there are no arguments against incestuous marriages or plural marriages. It doesn't matter whether they are homosexual or heterosexual.

The ol' "slippery slope" argument eh?

WTF: do you not understand that legal marriage DOES NOT REQUIRE SEXUAL CONTACT? Incest is ILLEGAL REGARDLESS OF MARITAL STATUS.

So what rational legal basis is there to deny this to any two people.

Ah, but soon people will be marrying goats, and dogs and refrigerators.
You know how the argument goes.

Nice deflection. Just admit your bigotry and leave.

 

[OffensivelyOpenMinded]

Weren't we assured that gays couldn't be this perverted?

Oklahoma mother, daughter arrested after alleged incestuous marriage

Of course a lesbian is going to fuck her daughter. That's why gays have children. They are perverts.

Yeah- God said only Dads get to fuck their daughters! That's why men have children. They are perverts!

You're an idiot.

You have a problem with me using sarcasm and hyperbole to point out how idiotic the OP is?

You're comparing apples to oranges.

I am pointing out that it doesn't matter if you are throwing apples or throwing oranges you are still throwing fruit.

I happen to think that anyone who has sex- or wants to marry his or her child is a pervert.

Whether the parent is a lesbian mom or a heterosexual dad doesn't make either acceptable or not acceptable.

Oh, I agree they're perverts. I believe homosexuals are also perverts and their behavior and unions shouldn't be endorsed by government. Your side opened this can of shit, don't forget it.

Other than you find it gross, as do I..what argument can you use to justify throwing these two in jail for incest? It's same sex incest at that...no possibility to have children (thank God).

 

[OffensivelyOpenMinded]

Weren't we assured that gays couldn't be this perverted?

Oklahoma mother, daughter arrested after alleged incestuous marriage

Of course a lesbian is going to fuck her daughter. That's why gays have children. They are perverts.

Of course gays can be perverted...just like straights can be perverted...cos they're people...like straights.
This proves that gays are ordinary people.

By definition, homosexuals are perverted. And don't blame me. I didn't invent the English language.

By definition left handed people are perverted.

There you go with comparing apples to oranges, and no..it's not all fruit.

Being left handed is not sexual perversion.

 

[Lucy Hamilton]

Once perversion is accepted as normal, it is all normalized. Once same sex marriage was legalized there are no arguments against incestuous marriages or plural marriages. It doesn't matter whether they are homosexual or heterosexual.

The ol' "slippery slope" argument eh?

WTF: do you not understand that legal marriage DOES NOT REQUIRE SEXUAL CONTACT? Incest is ILLEGAL REGARDLESS OF MARITAL STATUS.

So what rational legal basis is there to deny this to any two people.

Ah, but soon people will be marrying goats, and dogs and refrigerators.
You know how the argument goes.

"Ah, but soon people will be marrying goats, and dogs and refrigerators.
You know how the argument goes."

It's already happened you need to get with the programme.

Also some woman married Le Pont du Diable in Hérault.

This is this idiots um husband.

This is from the Huffington Post, because it's a Leftist thing, as Leftists have a problem if someone posts stuff from Breitbart or something, even though they had the article also. The bit where this idiot describes her um wedding night with her new um husband Le Pont du Diable illustrates that these people are mentally ill.

Jodi Rose, Australian Artist, Marries 600-Year-Old French Bridge Le Pont du Diable | Huffington Post

 

[Lucy Hamilton]

Once perversion is accepted as normal, it is all normalized. Once same sex marriage was legalized there are no arguments against incestuous marriages or plural marriages. It doesn't matter whether they are homosexual or heterosexual.

The ol' "slippery slope" argument eh?

WTF: do you not understand that legal marriage DOES NOT REQUIRE SEXUAL CONTACT? Incest is ILLEGAL REGARDLESS OF MARITAL STATUS.

So what rational legal basis is there to deny this to any two people.

Ah, but soon people will be marrying goats, and dogs and refrigerators.
You know how the argument goes.

Nice deflection. Just admit your bigotry and leave.

See my post about the woman marrying the bridge.

 

[Lucy Hamilton]

Once perversion is accepted as normal, it is all normalized. Once same sex marriage was legalized there are no arguments against incestuous marriages or plural marriages. It doesn't matter whether they are homosexual or heterosexual.

The ol' "slippery slope" argument eh?

WTF: do you not understand that legal marriage DOES NOT REQUIRE SEXUAL CONTACT? Incest is ILLEGAL REGARDLESS OF MARITAL STATUS.

So what rational legal basis is there to deny this to any two people.

Ah, but soon people will be marrying goats, and dogs and refrigerators.
You know how the argument goes.

Nice deflection. Just admit your bigotry and leave.

There's nothing bigoted about saying that it's not normal to have sex with your own children or saying that marriage is meant to be between a man and a woman.