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You don't believe capitalists love the cheap foreign labor? Why are we still burning fossil fuels in 2024? Only the Dems? Socialism? We could've switched to safe nuclear energy decades ago, using MSRs or other non-pressurized reactors. If we go nuclear, we can easily electrify much of our transportation, or even generate other liquid fuels:

• Hydrogen Production Using Nuclear Energy:
  
  • Hydrogen is produced via high-temperature electrolysis using nuclear power, which is carbon-free.
• Carbon Monoxide Production:
  
  • Carbon monoxide can be derived from CO₂ through a reverse water-gas shift reaction or from biomass gasification.
• Fischer-Tropsch Synthesis:
  
  • The hydrogen and carbon monoxide are then fed into the Fischer-Tropsch reactor, where they are catalytically converted into long-chain hydrocarbons (synthetic crude). This synthetic crude can be refined into various liquid fuels like diesel, gasoline, or jet fuel.

Methane and ammonia can also be produced as fuel with nuclear reactors. Why are we still drilling for oil and gas and burning it, polluting our atmosphere, drinking water, and our oceans? Not to speak of all fo the wars and corruption around fossil fuels and the billions of dollars the US government spends yearly subsidizing BIG OIL. Why would you be in favor of that?

The problem isn't just a high cost of living, but stagnant wages that don't pay enough for anyone to live on. Over half of America lives hand to mouth, paycheck to paycheck. Tens of millions of Americans work two full-time jobs to make ends meet. They don't have healthcare, they're in debt. etc. Do you want to pretend Republican right-wingers with their trickle-down economics and the gutting of the working class in the early 1980s, don't have a hand in this?

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The Republicans eliminated our manufacturing base and encouraged corporations to move abroad. They stripped workers of their rights to unionize leading to massive shutdowns of labor unions. All of the power was handed to wealthy and powerful employers, at the expense of the American workforce. Many of you right-wing Republicans on this forum are working-class people, or retirees, living off a government pension. Republicans are completely under the spell of their capitalist masters, voting for people who undermine their interests and don't give a hoot about them. Do you believe Trump cares about you? These wealthy elites have completely hoodwinked you.

If it wasn't for the American left, you wouldn't have a 40-hour workweek or 8-hour workday. You would have no rights in the workplace, forget about "Unemployment" or any benefits. You wouldn't be able to form a union with your fellow workers, as your capitalist masters do when they "unionize" in the form of Chambers Of Commerce, super PACs, industry-specific organizations, armies of lobbyists bribing politicians in the halls of government, think tanks..etc. Capitalists are smart enough to unionize and fight for their rights and interests, but you American working-class people are brainwashed by your bad religion, turning you into a mindless, exploitable bootlicker.

You don't have to be an atheist to be a socialist, you can be a Christian Socialist. A socialist who believes in God. Stop being brainwashed by your capitalist masters. Since when does the Christian Protestant work ethic have to be under the heel of capitalists, who don't care about you? You need to develop socioeconomic class consciousness. That will greatly improve your work-life and standard of living. The rich have it, but they've convinced you, that you shouldn't. The wealthy ruling class has CLASS CONSCIOUSNESS. Time to open your eyes and stand up.

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[OldFlame]

You don't believe capitalists love the cheap foreign labor? Why are we still burning fossil fuels in 2024? Only the Dems? Socialism? We could've switched to safe nuclear energy decades ago, using MSRs or other non-pressurized reactors. If we go nuclear, we can easily electrify much of our transportation, or even generate other liquid fuels:

• Hydrogen Production Using Nuclear Energy:
  
  • Hydrogen is produced via high-temperature electrolysis using nuclear power, which is carbon-free.
• Carbon Monoxide Production:
  
  • Carbon monoxide can be derived from CO₂ through a reverse water-gas shift reaction or from biomass gasification.
• Fischer-Tropsch Synthesis:
  
  • The hydrogen and carbon monoxide are then fed into the Fischer-Tropsch reactor, where they are catalytically converted into long-chain hydrocarbons (synthetic crude). This synthetic crude can be refined into various liquid fuels like diesel, gasoline, or jet fuel.

Methane and ammonia can also be produced as fuel with nuclear reactors. Why are we still drilling for oil and gas and burning it, polluting our atmosphere, drinking water, and our oceans? Not to speak of all fo the wars and corruption around fossil fuels and the billions of dollars the US government spends yearly subsidizing BIG OIL. Why would you be in favor of that?

The problem isn't just a high cost of living, but stagnant wages that don't pay enough for anyone to live on. Over half of America lives hand to mouth, paycheck to paycheck. Tens of millions of Americans work two full-time jobs to make ends meet. They don't have healthcare, they're in debt. etc. Do you want to pretend Republican right-wingers with their trickle-down economics and the gutting of the working class in the early 1980s, don't have a hand in this?

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The Republicans eliminated our manufacturing base and encouraged corporations to move abroad. They stripped workers of their rights to unionize leading to massive shutdowns of labor unions. All of the power was handed to wealthy and powerful employers, at the expense of the American workforce. Many of you right-wing Republicans on this forum are working-class people, or retirees, living off a government pension. Republicans are completely under the spell of their capitalist masters, voting for people who undermine their interests and don't give a hoot about them. Do you believe Trump cares about you? These wealthy elites have completely hoodwinked you.

If it wasn't for the American left, you wouldn't have a 40-hour workweek or 8-hour workday. You would have no rights in the workplace, forget about "Unemployment" or any benefits. You wouldn't be able to form a union with your fellow workers, as your capitalist masters do when they "unionize" in the form of Chambers Of Commerce, super PACs, industry-specific organizations, armies of lobbyists bribing politicians in the halls of government, think tanks..etc. Capitalists are smart enough to unionize and fight for their rights and interests, but you American working-class people are brainwashed by your bad religion, turning you into a mindless, exploitable bootlicker.

You don't have to be an atheist to be a socialist, you can be a Christian Socialist. A socialist who believes in God. Stop being brainwashed by your capitalist masters. Since when does the Christian Protestant work ethic have to be under the heel of capitalists, who don't care about you? You need to develop socioeconomic class consciousness. That will greatly improve your work-life and standard of living. The rich have it, but they've convinced you, that you shouldn't. The wealthy ruling class has CLASS CONSCIOUSNESS. Time to open your eyes and stand up.

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You need to quit living in the past, if you don't think the D's are completely sold out, then you're a complete and total fool.

 

[Calypso Jones]

 

[Calypso Jones]

You need to quit living in the past, if you don't think the D's are completely sold out, then you're a complete and total fool.

D's are worse than sold out...they support things that you would never have believed that any human being would sit still for....killing new borns, who could live, in the name of women's healthcare(??). A country steeped in corruption and vile beliefs and behaviors? to confusing mentally ill children and supporting cutting off their body parts to 'cure; it. mtf, ftm, telling us men can have babies? allowing men to beat hell out of women in sports or n the street? But that is what they are doing.

It is as God said would happen. Peoples' eyes and minds are shut to the truth.

 

[PoliticalChic]

D's are worse than sold out...they support things that you would never have believed that any human being would sit still for....killing new borns, who could live, in the name of women's healthcare(??). A country steeped in corruption and vile beliefs and behaviors? to confusing mentally ill children and supporting cutting off their body parts to 'cure; it. mtf, ftm, telling us men can have babies? allowing men to beat hell out of women in sports or n the street? But that is what they are doing.

It is as God said would happen. Peoples' eyes and minds are shut to the truth.

Ephesians 4:25 So stop telling lies. Let us tell our neighbors the truth, for we are all parts of the same body.

 

[DBA]

In this country we have socialism for the rich and powerful, and pick yourself up by your bootstraps capitalism for the working class.

What do you consider rich? My family is well into the top 5%. Are we rich? If so, what benefits do I get for being rich? I can list many government “penalties” due to higher income. We can’t directly invest in Roth IRAs. We didn’t get any stimulus money. We pay higher federal income taxes. We pay higher property taxes simply because the property we paid for with post tax money is worth more. Every year my accountant is breaking more bad news to me about how must pay more or we can’t do xyz due to income restrictions. My wife and I both work for corporations. They pay us for our expertise. We picked ourselves up by the bootstraps by studying, getting degrees and working hard. Yes, it still works in the US, not so much in many other countries.

Those that complain of the “rich” haven’t typically walked in their shoes. They buy into propaganda like, for example, Trump giving the rich a tax cut, when in fact virtually everyone got a tax cut.

America is doomed unless it adopts socialism ASAP.

This is pure ignorance.

 

[TruthNotBS]

What do you consider rich? My family is well into the top 5%. Are we rich? If so, what benefits do I get for being rich? I can list many government “penalties” due to higher income. We can’t directly invest in Roth IRAs. We didn’t get any stimulus money. We pay higher federal income taxes. We pay higher property taxes simply because the property we paid for with post tax money is worth more. Every year my accountant is breaking more bad news to me about how must pay more or we can’t do xyz due to income restrictions. My wife and I both work for corporations. They pay us for our expertise. We picked ourselves up by the bootstraps by studying, getting degrees and working hard. Yes, it still works in the US, not so much in many other countries.

Those that complain of the “rich” haven’t typically walked in their shoes. They buy into propaganda like, for example, Trump giving the rich a tax cut, when in fact virtually everyone got a tax cut.



This is pure ignorance.

DBA, your response is filled with the kind of selective reasoning that ignores the broader realities of wealth and privilege in America. Yes, you and your family might face higher taxes and certain restrictions due to your income level, but those inconveniences pale in comparison to the advantages you enjoy simply by being in the top 5%.

First, let’s talk about the benefits of being rich. The wealthy have access to resources, networks, and opportunities that are largely inaccessible to the average person. You can afford top-tier education, which is often out of reach for many in the working class. This isn't just about "studying hard"—it's about having access to the best schools, tutors, and extracurricular activities that give you a competitive edge. Moreover, being in the top 5% means you have more disposable income to invest, save, and grow your wealth further. You have the ability to weather financial storms that would devastate a working-class family, and you benefit from a financial system that often rewards wealth with more wealth, through mechanisms like preferential tax treatments for capital gains.

When you mention “penalties” like not being able to invest in Roth IRAs or receiving stimulus checks, you're conveniently overlooking how the tax system still favors the wealthy in numerous ways. For instance, capital gains are taxed at a lower rate than ordinary income, which overwhelmingly benefits the rich. The estate tax threshold is so high that only a tiny fraction of estates ever pay it, allowing vast amounts of wealth to be passed down untaxed. And let’s not forget about the loopholes and deductions that accountants—like yours—can exploit to reduce your tax burden, something working-class families simply cannot afford to do.

Your assertion that “picking yourself up by the bootstraps” still works in the U.S. is a myth for many Americans. Yes, hard work is important, but not everyone starts from the same place. The reality is that systemic issues like generational poverty, racial discrimination, and unequal access to education create significant barriers for millions of people. You had the privilege of being in a position where your hard work could pay off. But for many, no amount of hard work will overcome the structural inequalities they face.

Moreover, your claim that "Trump's tax cuts benefited everyone" is misleading. While it’s true that many Americans saw a temporary reduction in their taxes, the vast majority of the benefits from the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act went to the wealthiest individuals and corporations. The top 1% will eventually receive 83% of the benefits from these cuts, while the middle and lower classes will see their benefits diminish over time (FierceHealthcare).

Your response ignores the fact that we have a system that consistently props up the wealthy, often at the expense of the working class. The idea of "socialism for the rich" isn't just rhetoric—it's a reality where the rich get bailed out and given preferential treatment, while the rest of society is told to fend for themselves. So yes, when you ask, "what benefits do I get for being rich?" the answer is clear: the benefit is being in a position where the system is designed to keep you wealthy, often using public resources and policies that the working class can only dream of accessing.

 

[DBA]

First, let’s talk about the benefits of being rich. The wealthy have access to resources, networks, and opportunities that are largely inaccessible to the average person. You can afford top-tier education, which is often out of reach for many in the working class. This isn't just about "studying hard"—it's about having access to the best schools, tutors, and extracurricular activities that give you a competitive edge. Moreover, being in the top 5% means you have more disposable income to invest, save, and grow your wealth further. You have the ability to weather financial storms that would devastate a working-class family, and you benefit from a financial system that often rewards wealth with more wealth, through mechanisms like preferential tax treatments for capital gains.

Yes there are benefits as there should be. Without benefits, people wouldn't work as hard to get there. People become complacent when not incentivized. The US offers this incentive and many other countries don't.

When you mention “penalties” like not being able to invest in Roth IRAs or receiving stimulus checks, you're conveniently overlooking how the tax system still favors the wealthy in numerous ways. For instance, capital gains are taxed at a lower rate than ordinary income, which overwhelmingly benefits the rich. The estate tax threshold is so high that only a tiny fraction of estates ever pay it, allowing vast amounts of wealth to be passed down untaxed. And let’s not forget about the loopholes and deductions that accountants—like yours—can exploit to reduce your tax burden, something working-class families simply cannot afford to do.

My accountants don't find loopholes. Those are for people with teams of accountants and many businesses, not the working wealthy. As for the estate tax, I should be able to pass along to my children what I have earned and paid taxes on multiple times without it being given away. The death tax should be abolished entirely. On a similar note, it is Democrats that have proposed to remove the step up one receives on property they receive in an estate. That would kill everyone, poor included.

Your assertion that “picking yourself up by the bootstraps” still works in the U.S. is a myth for many Americans. Yes, hard work is important, but not everyone starts from the same place. The reality is that systemic issues like generational poverty, racial discrimination, and unequal access to education create significant barriers for millions of people. You had the privilege of being in a position where your hard work could pay off. But for many, no amount of hard work will overcome the structural inequalities they face.

Funny, but my wife and her family were legal immigrants. They came over with nothing but the clothes on their backs. She and her family would have never had the opportunties in their former country to get where they are today. They took full advantage.

Moreover, your claim that "Trump's tax cuts benefited everyone" is misleading. While it’s true that many Americans saw a temporary reduction in their taxes, the vast majority of the benefits from the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act went to the wealthiest individuals and corporations. The top 1% will eventually receive 83% of the benefits from these cuts, while the middle and lower classes will see their benefits diminish over time (FierceHealthcare).

They receive the most benefit because they pay the most taxes. That is simple logic.

 

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[TruthNotBS]

Yes there are benefits as there should be. Without benefits, people wouldn't work as hard to get there. People become complacent when not incentivized. The US offers this incentive and many other countries don't.



My accountants don't find loopholes. Those are for people with teams of accountants and many businesses, not the working wealthy. As for the estate tax, I should be able to pass along to my children what I have earned and paid taxes on multiple times without it being given away. The death tax should be abolished entirely. On a similar note, it is Democrats that have proposed to remove the step up one receives on property they receive in an estate. That would kill everyone, poor included.



Funny, but my wife and her family were legal immigrants. They came over with nothing but the clothes on their backs. She and her family would have never had the opportunties in their former country to get where they are today. They took full advantage.



They receive the most benefit because they pay the most taxes. That is simple logic.

DBA, your response only serves to reinforce the very point I was making about the disparities in wealth and opportunity. To start, let's address your admission that there are benefits to being rich and that these benefits are necessary to incentivize hard work. The problem with your argument is that it ignores the massive gap between the opportunities available to the rich and those available to the working class. It's not just about working hard—it's about having access to the resources that make success possible. Your ability to afford the best education, invest in lucrative opportunities, and weather financial storms is a direct result of your wealth, not simply your hard work. Meanwhile, the working class, who are often just as hardworking, if not more, are trapped in a cycle of limited opportunities and constant financial precarity.

Your claim that your accountants don't find loopholes because you're not "working wealthy" is disingenuous. The tax system in the U.S. is structured in a way that inherently favors the wealthy, whether through lower capital gains taxes, the ability to shelter income, or the passing of wealth through estates with minimal taxation. The estate tax, which you seem to despise, affects only a tiny fraction of the richest estates, yet you frame it as if it's a burden on the average family. This is classic misinformation. The reality is that most working-class families will never even come close to having to worry about the estate tax, while the wealthiest use various strategies to pass down their fortunes with minimal loss. The so-called "death tax" you're railing against is one of the few remaining measures that attempts to prevent the concentration of wealth from becoming even more entrenched across generations.

As for your wife and her family being immigrants who worked hard and succeeded, that's great for them, but it’s hardly proof that the system works the same way for everyone. Your anecdotal evidence doesn't negate the systemic barriers that millions of Americans face due to generational poverty, racial discrimination, and lack of access to quality education. The fact that a few people beat the odds doesn’t change the fact that the deck is stacked against the majority. Moreover, it’s likely that your wife and her family benefited from various government programs designed to help immigrants and low-income families. The notion that anyone is 100% self-made is a myth. Everyone receives help in one way or another, whether it’s through public education, infrastructure, or direct financial assistance.

Your mention of other countries where your wife’s family might not have had the same opportunities ignores the broader geopolitical realities. Many of these countries suffer under economic sanctions, exploitation by foreign corporations, and political instability often exacerbated by outside interference—particularly from the U.S. The idea that these countries perform poorly solely because of socialism or mixed economies is laughable. The U.S. has a long history of undermining the economies of these nations to extract cheap labor and resources, ensuring they remain dependent and impoverished.

The bottom line is that your experience as someone in the top 5% does not reflect the reality of the majority of Americans. The privileges you enjoy are the result of a system designed to favor the wealthy at the expense of the working class. The idea that capitalism rewards hard work equally is a lie; it rewards those who already have the resources to succeed. And when you ask what benefits you get for being rich, the answer is simple: you get to live a life with opportunities, security, and advantages that most people can only dream of, all while benefiting from a system that continually props up your wealth.

 

[Nuthin' Fancy]

To better this country, bring those leaders here and get rid of democrats. The evil in this country is democrats. Not North Korea or China. It's democrats.

Proof Trump AND his cult love communist and hate America.